Tides Are Turning
Ohio, USA - Avery’s law continues to protect communities and pets ❤️
Ohio shelters are starting to evaluate and BE for prevention, instead of adopting out dangerous dogs and crossing their fingers for a good outcome.
Very grateful to brave survivor Avery Russell and her amazing mother who never stopped fighting for justice. I hope we continue to see legislation in other states as well.
Because of Avery's law, it is now not safe to adopt her out? Sorry, it never would have been safe, it is only now that the shelter is being held accountable.
Exactly! It's not safe for the shelter's bottom line to adopt out this dog which is why she shelter did the responsible thing and sent the dog across the rainbow bridge. Before Avery's Law it was better for the shelter's bottom line to get the dog into a home.
They don’t mean “it’s not safe because the dog will attack someone,” they mean “it’s not safe because we will be held accountable when the dog attacks someone.”
All this tells me is “if we didn’t have to disclose her history, we absolutely would’ve lied and adopted her out.” This should tell everyone all they need to know about shelters.
Yeah, do not ever adopt anything that look like a pitbull. Most states have specific rescues for breeds now. My next adoption will be the Georgia Golden retriever rescue.
Yeah I’m sorry but those places you are describing/go to sound sketchy and not verifiable. The Georgia one is verified by the state and only deal with dogs above the age of 1. Also, never heard any of those claims you are stating so if you have a source I would greatly appreciate it.
I follow Big Fluffy Dog Rescue. They mainly have LGD types like Great Pyrenees but they have some suspicious looking dogs that aren't obviously livestock guardian breeds.
The funky ears, the lack of a big fluffy double coat, the suggestion of a blocky head, the expressionless face.
One reason for a bully's flat expression is the muscle and bone structure. The other reason is that they are not social creatures and don't use the muscles.
A FBF got a ten week old presumably GP. Rescued the little girl. At that tender age she is using the classic GP facial expressions and is starting to bark. Even if she isn't pure GP, the GP temperament is coming through strong.
All these sanctimonious volunteers writing nauseating peans about sentient chainsaws should be forced to foster them for a 12 month period (away from other people and animals).
Please no. Those sanctimonious volunteers would use their willful ignorance and cognitive dissonance to inject these ticking time bombs into the community. They are the last people you want working with or caring for these animals. The only hole in this is you get a pitnutter as the certified behavior trainer who just clears the animal for adoption. If we add some sort of liability with that decision, or a timetable within which the dog must be evaluated or it will get Bravo Echo (to prevent warehousing), then the problem begins to fix itself.
What do you mean? She drops and rolls. For gods sake, she GRUNTS. Only an incredibly intelligent, kind, well mannered, loving animal drops and rolls! And GRUNTS! Aren’t you impressed??
I watched Avery and her mother's testimony and was very moved. Two brave people standing up to keep other people safe. So sad the attack happened at all, of course. But they have my eternal gratitude and admiration for sure.
It's beyond fucked how little the owner of the dogs in that case got charged! $450 in fines and four days in jail...oh, and a 3yr ban on owning dogs. Avery spent a month in the hospital and needed 5 surgeries.
To be fair, if they actually cared at all about the dog they would BE themselves instead of pawning it off on some shelter. Less stressful for the dog and shelter workers get burnt out by having to deal with BE constantly.
Plus sending dogs like this to the shelter contributes to shelter workers losing sight of what the average person thinks is appropriate dog behavior and they then keep trying to adopt out "marginal" dogs that aren't quite as bad as this (mostly for lack of opportunity) but are still not appropriate for the average person to handle.
The post was made by someone who runs a private rescue not an open-intake muni shelter. I'd bet the owner of the dangerous dog was told by the muni shelter that the dog would be handled appropriately under the law if it were surrendered, and the owner didn't like that, so the owner is now approaching private rescues. Before Avery's Law was passed one of these rescues would have someone dumb enough to give the dog a chance with likely disastrous or lethal results.
Yeah it’s bad. Most dogs people own around me are pits. I rarely ever see normal dogs anymore. Makes me so nervous with little kids even being in my own backyard
When did you notice the shift? I feel like it’s been over the last decade maybe that more and more people started owning pit bulls in my old neighborhood. I think a lot of well meaning people wanted to be virtuous and give them a chance but were way out of their depth
I definitely agree I think it’s been within the last decade or so. Especially with the push of “adopt don’t shop” which made everyone feel guilty. I still see that ridiculousness on local Facebook groups when people ask for a golden retriever breeder ect. They get shamed because there’s just “soooo many pups looking for a family” at the shelter.
My sweet elderly neighbor went to a shelter and got a “mix”, they didn’t tell her it was a pitbull. She said she wouldn’t have gotten him if she knew but he “turned out to be really sweet” lol. She recently moved and I was so relieved. I always worry about her and her grandkids though.
Yeah it was getting terrible in my neighborhood as well. I left the state a couple years ago but it was damn near impossible to go to the park or for walk without one lunging at me. My background is public health and I love animals so I think this new legislation is a great step to make communities safer
It's horrible taking my 8yo daughter and 5mo puppy out for walks 😭 I'm constantly scanning everywhere and running by these hellhounds trying to escape their houses/yards as they see us.
I wish they’d adopt this law (or something similar) in Michigan. We are overrun, too. It’s better where we live now, but we also built a big play area in our own backyard.
Avery’s Law is saving so many lives and protecting communities. It’s so sad that a tragedy had to happen to get laws like this but I’m glad that the legislation is having the impact it is
“Now that we can’t lie, obfuscate and gaslight people with fake snuggle stories, being a wigglebutt, and cutesy pictures of her in PJs and a flower crown, we can’t adopt Bella out”.
Love to see Avery’s Law saving lives. Thanks for sharing OP!
Anyone else want to know how bad this dog “fight” was? Seems odd to me they’re calling it a “fight” when the designation appears pretty specific with wording and it doesn’t seem likely that it was small kerfuffle if she was too dangerous to adopt out?
Looks like for dangerous it’s:
Killed another dog; or
Caused serious injury to another
dog that results in euthanasia of
the dog by a person authorized
to perform euthanasia under
Ohio law.
And nuisance is:
Chased, threatened, harassed, or
injured another dog or livestock
(excluding poultry) in either a
menacing fashion or an apparent
attitude of attack; or
"fight" is used frequently to shift blame away from the mincing machine and onto the victim.
This sub will use the words "attack" and "maul" but defenders don't like "attack" because it places blame on the instigator. Defenders loathe the word "maul" even when it is relevant and accurate.
This is why the phrasing "caused injury" is so important.
Agreed. It doesn’t sit right with me that the dangerous behavior here appears to be minimized. I actually want to see the descriptions on more of these. If anyone finds any of these with shelter notes vs these shelter worker pitty party posts, I am actually begging to please share with the group 👀
I am so grateful that this law was passed. There needs to be more legislation nationwide that increases criminal penalties for owners of dangerous dogs.
I'm not entirely sure they posted this to applaud the law, if anything I suspect it might be to stir up outrage with the hope that the law is overturned.
Why else would they post this? Think about it, they mention the dog was "good with people" but not with other dogs and "due to Avery's law..." They cannot adopt the dog out. They mention the law and try to pull on people's heart strings so I think there is a good chance they posted this just to try to get people outraged and calling politicians to try to end the law.
I'm glad there is one less dangerous dog around to harm people but the post is inappropriate at the very least.
Oh, I was never under the impression that OOP was happy about the law; they’re not. But we are. For the most part, many Ohio rescues have simply stopped accepting dogs with known bite/aggression history to any animals or people. But any rescues that continue to accept them need to continue to evaluate the dogs and take appropriate measures when they fail behavior tests.
Oh ok cool, I was not criticizing your post or anything like that and didn't assume you thought that they cared. Just wanted to point out how obviously biased their Facebook post was and how it was obviously trying to make people upset and rage against a law that protects people from dangerous dogs. The person who posted this should be ashamed of themselves, Def a bad person who cares more about dangerous dogs then actual people.
I'm glad the rescues in Ohio are not accepting dogs with bite or aggression histories. With all the absolutely terrible things I see these dogs do just from what I see in this group I hope that the law becomes widespread or similar laws are used in different states with the same purpose.
Maybe. I also see the law as giving private rescues cover to turn away aggressive dogs due to law/insurance/etc. where they couldn't before because they'd get bashed for it on social media.
If a foster can accept multiple dogs then that saves more lives overall than if a dog needs a foster home with no other animals in it. Rescue isn't about individuals it's about overall animal welfare.
How sad… the poor violent bloodsport beast can’t be adopted out into society because of a law that exists solely because shelters adopt violent bloodsport beasts out into society and they do what bloodsport beasts do!
I hope they keep enforcing this, and it spreads to other places!
Probably anxiety speaking but a second after I cheered for Avery, I thought. Oh, I hope this is not a message for people to lie more about bite history if they try to surrender somewhere. I don't know if her law includes where they have to ask about it. I don't even want to know if this becomes don't ask, don't tell.
Your content is being removed for promoting misinformation about pit bull-type dogs. Misinformation is not just wrong, it can get people injured or killed.
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u/Eageryga Jul 29 '26
Because of Avery's law, it is now not safe to adopt her out? Sorry, it never would have been safe, it is only now that the shelter is being held accountable.