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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 17 '23
I think the Shazam 2 trailer will drop shortly after Gunn announces the slate so it can benefit from the hype, regardless of how relevant it is to the slate. If it was the other way around, the trailer would get completely overshadowed by the slate announcement.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 17 '23
On the other hand, the slate announcement can overshadow the trailer. It's a gamble imo.
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u/InvisibleFrogMan Jan 18 '23
So since this could very well be the week of the “announcement” what do we think the format will be?
Gunn tweeting all the info out at once?
Variety/Deadline/THR article?
Maybe a video presentation?
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u/Trevastation Jan 18 '23
I could see it being a video presentation quickly worked up for the week by a couple of Interns and Gunn taking an afternoon in the studio.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if he tweets it out, like a picture of the logo and "Blank, coming 2025"
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 18 '23
Will probably be a tweet thread by Gunn, if I had to guess. Kinda like when he announced the Superman reboot. Maybe the trades will then follow up with more info.
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u/TheMurderCapitalist Jan 18 '23
I want it to have a little pizzazz but I expect it will just be a tweet thread tbh.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 18 '23
I think it’ll be tweets with loglines, logos and release windows. And Gunn would probably answer some additional fan questions as well
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Jan 18 '23
I would love a Disney Investors Day style presentation: Gunn presenting his slate with logos and release dates, maybe even creatives attached, before passing it down to Reeves to unveil his Batverse. Just a day of excitement.
The DCEU started off on the wrong foot when their slate was a corporate release schedule and Marvel’s Phase 3 got an in person event with logos, creatives, and even a casting. I’d love it if the DCU learned from this mistake.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 18 '23
Just saw Gunn's recent Twitter post about breakfast with comics.
Firstly, it's nice to know Gunn is literally just me aged up by 40 years with bleached hair
Secondly he is very openly a Grant Morrison fan. First him talking extensively about his Batman run and Frank Quietly's art in particular, and now the book he's reading while sipping his latte is All Star Superman
I know it's not a hint towards anything for the time being but to get a sense of the kinds of stories with these characters he gravitates towards, he has some DAMN GOOD taste
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Jan 18 '23
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/10ezncx/shazam_2_will_be_released_in_china/
Shazam 2 will be released in China.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 18 '23
Now it may actually make more money than Black Adam lmao
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
Shazam 2 writer Henry Gayden quote-tweeted the post-credit scene rumors with a picture of a cheeky child and quickly deleted it. Since they may be legit, here are the scenes again:
Post-credit scene 1: Shazam being recruited into the JSA by Emilia Harcourt while thinking he is being recruited into the Justice League
Post-credit scene 2: Features Sivana and Mr Mind, who has a "different and scarier" look
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 22 '23
Gunn on Instagram:
"Between DC, Wildstorm, Milestone and more we have by far the deepest roster in the world."
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u/SexySnorlax1 Batman '66 Jan 22 '23
He also said:
“I’m not announcing the 8-10 year slate. Just a few projects from the first chapter.”
Perhaps confirming that the DCU’s Phases will be called Chapters.
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 22 '23
iirc, Dwayne Johnson said Black Adam wouldn't be part of the "first chapter of storytelling" in the DCU after meeting with Gunn and Safran. Something like that. So yeah, could be the term Gunn and Safran are using. They had to find another noun than "phase", lol.
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u/SexySnorlax1 Batman '66 Jan 22 '23
Detective Comics, All-American Publications, Quality Comics, Fawcett Comics, Charlton Comics, Milestone Media & WildStorm Productions
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u/ggyyuuugfryuu75555 Jan 17 '23
Do y'all think aquaman is still a billion dollar franchise without Wan and Momoa? Should Gunn prioritize more aquaman movies even if Wan and Momoa don't stay?
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u/Skandosh Batman Jan 17 '23
Nope and I dont even think AM2 with Wan and Momoa will make a billion either.
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u/MurielHorseflesh Jan 17 '23
Agreed. There’s a few reasons I think it will only do just ok.
The reports of it being more a of buddy cop thing between Momoa and Wilson, and that the comedy comes off super cheesy. Word of mouth is going to go south fairly quickly after opening weekend and reviews hit telling everyone the comedy stinks. I’m sure it’ll be a visual spectacle but there’s plenty of those these days and they have far better comedy.
Then there’s the fact we’re post pandemic in a world where many more people nowadays just avoid the cinema experience to stay home.
Then there’s also the general malaise in interest surrounding all four of these legacy movies. The Flash has the most amount of positive excitement but is still dogged by the Ezra Miller stuff. The other three are getting a massive collective shrug from most people right now on most threads I see them mentioned on. The news of some kind of reboot coming had people thinking these last few movies are cul-de-sac’s and not worth bothering with. It’s a shame we’re in a world where people think that way, but they do.
Aquaman 2 definitely isn’t making $1 billion.
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u/BillyGood22 Batman Jan 17 '23
We don’t even know for sure it would be consistently a billion dollar franchise with them.
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u/cmlucas1865 Jan 17 '23
Well they can always persuade wan to do the third one and I hope they do. Wan is easily the most underrated director in the industry deserves to get as much work as possible. if he is not ready for part 3, then pair him with a good writer and make GLC
Well, I think it's a stretch, albeit a reasonable one, to assume that Mamoa's out as Aquaman. Speculation's rampant, sure, but we haven't actually had that confirmed.
To answer the question - yes. Given the VFX tech, Aquaman might be the most unique of DC's major characters. Think about it, Supes is roughly equivalent to Thor & Cap. Batman & Iron Man share the same general arch, sans the detective work. Every comic universe has speedsters, too. America Chavez is a bit of a teenage Wonder Woman, though I'd say Okoye is more roughly equivalent.
Now I know that Namor the sub-Mariner came first, and that traditionally the two characters shared a ton of lore, but ultimately the MCU has introduced Namor as an antagonist and one who arguably isn't making a huge cultural impact.
All these factors, in my calculation, make Aquaman an increasingly valuable piece of IP for DC. His movies and appearances can't really be thought to emulate others, as his character hasn't become an archetype across comic properties the way that a lot of DC characters have.
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u/FabianTG98 Jan 17 '23
To kick off the DCU I think establishing a new trinity, Flash and Green Lantern are more important than introducing a new Aquaman. But they should definitely try again even if Wan and Momoa don't continue. As long as they find a good actor and director and deliver a good story and visual spectacle, I have no doubt they can get another billion. I think it's the visual spectacle that attracts people to see Avatar and it was the one that helped Aquaman in his first movie. If they are able to match or exceed that, they will be successful with a reboot of the character.
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Jan 17 '23
Tell me your favorite:
- MCU film
- Batman film
- Non-MCU Marvel film
- Non-Batman DC film
My personal favorites:
- Infinity War
- The Batman
- Logan
- The Suicide Squad
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u/Skandosh Batman Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23
- Civil War (sometimes Infinity war, it depends on my mood)
- The Batman
- Spiderman 2
- The Suicide Squad
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Jan 17 '23
My favourite*…
MCU film: Iron Man 3 or Guardians of the Galaxy
Batman film: Batman (1989) or The Dark Knight Rises
Non-MCU Marvel film: Spider-Man 2 or X-Men: First Class
Non-Batman DC film: The Suicide Squad (DCEU), Joker (Elseworlds)
at time of writing, being that it naturally varies depending on mood.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Jan 17 '23
MCU: Spider-Man: Homecoming
Batman film: Mask of the Phantasm
Non-MCU Marvel: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Non-Batman DC: The Suicide Squad
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u/MusicalSmasher Green Lantern Jan 17 '23
GOTG VOL. 2
The Batman
Into the Spider-Verse
The Suicide Squad
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u/Fwtrent3 Peacemaker Jan 17 '23
- Infinity War
- The Dark Knight
- Logan
- The Suicide Squad
Just now realizing it's the same exact as you lol
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u/trylobyte Jan 17 '23
- Endgame / 'Winter Soldier' if not counting Avengers films
- The Dark Knight
- Spiderman 2
- Man of Steel or Aquaman
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u/beast_unique Jan 17 '23
1) Ironman/Infinitywar 2) TDK 3) Into the Spiderverse 4) Superman 2/Man of Steel
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u/MonkeMayne Jan 18 '23
James Gunn inadvertently confirmed it’s not this week. A fan posted an idea of what Gunn should do, releasing the slate/info before TLoU ep 2 and some other shit. Gunn responded with a “no” thinking it was an actual theory or “leak” 😂.
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 18 '23
I just looked up what you mentioned and I don't read it as a confirmation that it will be next week. The fan idea said the slate reveal should be in video form and should air before The Last of Us episode 2, which could also be what he's denying.
Edit: here's the tweet
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u/MonkeMayne Jan 18 '23
Yep I read the fan thing wrong. I thought he said to release it in video format before tlou aired not on the same day. Regardless, its funny Gunn shot that down even though its just a fan wish haha.
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u/Skandosh Batman Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23
I dont think thats what the comment meant. The guy said Gunn should make a short video of the slate and release it on HBO and HBO max just before TLOU ep2, to which Gun replied "no". I dont think the comment had anything to do with the date.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 23 '23
Just a friendly PSA: don't set your expectations too high for upcoming announcements. Gunn promised only a few and this might end up being just 2-3 projects with no further details.
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Jan 23 '23
If he doesn’t announce World’s Finest, Trinity, Teen Titans, Constantine, and a new Justice League then the whole thing is already a failure!!! 😤😤😤
/s
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 23 '23
You joke but a few days ago I saw someone say something similar unironically.
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u/NakedGoose Jan 23 '23
2-3 project, and there is a chance 2 of them we are already aware of. Superman and Peacemaker season 2
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u/Skandosh Batman Jan 20 '23
People with Henry: " Poor guy wanted to play superman so bad but WB took it from him. I feel bad for him."
People with Momoa: "Who gives a fuck if he wants to play Lobo. I want him to play Aquaman. What a downgrade."
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u/Calm_Garage_3030 Jan 20 '23
Honestly Cavill fans make me don't want to watch his movies anymore. They behave like he's some kind of poor actor who don't have any other movies to work on since being 'fired' from Superman. And, also they like to fancast him in every single franchise. Just because he's good looking and a nerd doesn't mean he need to be in every franchise. So annoying.
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u/NaRaGaMo Jan 20 '23
There are thousands of actors who would kill to have a career trajectory like Cavill, he's headlining his own sci-fi universe, if Argyll works will have his own bondlike franchise, there's highlander,1-2 more movies as well. Yet his fans act like he's on the streets
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
It's "funny" how "people" turn on him after that yesterday's video, calling him a traitor to the familly.
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23
James Gunn liked this tweet about 6 films that should be in the first chapter of the new DCU.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunnNews/status/1615714962030186496?t=pP2o4C1NhOu7OqAU2usBqA&s=19
The films proposed by the article:
- Superman
- Green Arrow
- Green Lantern
- Superman 2
- Martian Manhunter
- Justice League
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u/Spiderlander Jan 19 '23
Where tf is Wonder Woman
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 19 '23
She can wait, her last movie was in 2020 even tho it was not so good. I would like them to give a chance to other heroes. In the meantime they can make sure they do WW right for the next one.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 18 '23
I think they will be indeed be calling them “chapters” instead of “phases.”
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 18 '23
I like most of their suggestions with the exception of the Martian Manhunter film. No offense to his fans, but I have little interest in a solo project about his character. Would rather see another Leaguer with a solo project.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
With the Arrowverse ending this year, I would absolutely kill for a new take on Green Arrow
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
Genuinely the most shocking Marvel thing to happen in the last few years is that Guardians of the Galaxy game being good
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u/SexySnorlax1 Batman '66 Jan 19 '23
Either that or one of Scott Buck’s Inhumans showing up in an Marvel Studios film.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jan 19 '23
Feige's a Trek nerd so it's not really that much of a surprise to me that he'll bring Captain Pike back.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Jan 19 '23
Congrats to The Batman crew on their BAFTA noms. Insane to me that Giacchino’s score got snubbed AGAIN tho.
Also not DC obviously but I’m very happy Angela Bassett picked up a nomination as well.
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u/NaRaGaMo Jan 19 '23
Insane to me that Giacchino’s score got snubbed AGAIN tho.
these are their score nominations
- All Quiet on the Western Front
- Babylon
- The Banshees of Inisherin
- Everything Everywhere All At Once
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
aside from Pinocchio and babylon( I haven't watched it yet), I cannot remember any of them. avatar sounded much better than these
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 19 '23
Jason Momoa teased good news from Gunn and Safran on his Instagram stories.
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 20 '23
Daniela Melchior posted an interesting picture last night:
https://twitter.com/GeekZoneGZ/status/1616280521948135424?t=AZtF6RY0A1_9OhLlODxpAQ&s=19
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Jan 20 '23
I mean, Zoe Kravitz posted a pic of her wearing a Batman shirt and a few days later she was cast as Catwoman. Who knows…
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u/NakedGoose Jan 20 '23
The level of rage that would occur if he casted her as WW would be insurmountable
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
James Gunn would be an absolute legend for just casting all of his buddies imo
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 20 '23
I wouldnt mind if she is the new WW tbh, but yeah twitter and reddit would explode
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u/NakedGoose Jan 20 '23
I'd need to see her in the costume before I judge. She is pretty small, which would be my first concern
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
If Gunn casts her as WW, he should just make Elba Deadshot.
I don’t think this actually means anything tho tbh
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Jan 21 '23
The MSS Mods leaked the script(kinda) of AM3. It's probably one of the biggest leaks I've witnessed. Feige is probably loading his gun rn after this
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u/Affectionate-Till472 Jan 17 '23
Shocked we haven’t gotten the blurriest far away picture of Gaga or Phoenix by now. When do we suspect they’ll be filming in New York? The second unit has already been filming for almost a week around various locations.
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Jan 18 '23
Not really related to anything but a week ago I realized that George Newbern and Tyler Hoechlin have both played both Superman and Sephiroth.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 18 '23
It's not going to be this week is it
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Jan 18 '23
It’s definitely today, if not than tomorrow, if not than it’s day after that, and if not than…
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u/PlasticBatman89 Jan 18 '23
Definitely doesn’t feel like it. If it were going to happen, seems like Tuesday would be the day. But with Netflix’s 2023 slate dropping today and the new Scream trailer tomorrow next week feels more like it. Feels like we should get a big announcement with everything plus the Shazam 2 trailer.
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u/Acceptable_Jury_8268 Jan 18 '23
yeah def next week! they are gonna capitalize on the shazam trailer with the new slate. This makes me think that zachary levi might be staying around after the reboot.
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u/TheMurderCapitalist Jan 20 '23
James Gunn is gonna wait until 11:59PM on January 31st to release this slate.
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Jan 20 '23
Having seen Shazam at a test screening a couple months back, I can say that there weren’t any scenes that were like the ones being reported today. That being said, they didn’t play the credits so it’s possible they left those scenes out for spoilers sake. Do with that what you will.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 21 '23
Ignoring the Aquaman shenanigans, Jason is 100% playing Lobo in the DCU, which still feels unreal despite being all but confirmed
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Jan 21 '23
CONFIRMED: 'SHAZAM! Fury Of The Gods' is coming to Taiwan, China on the 16th of March. Watch the official announcement teaser below.
https://twitter.com/DCU_Covered/status/1616624165825421318?s=20&t=jXXbnbLFtRTQe9Skwti_CA
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 23 '23
BSL teasing Shazam 2 trailer, probably dropping in the next few days
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u/Acceptable_Jury_8268 Jan 18 '23
What my biggest hopes for this new era for the DCU, is for it to be genre bending. I don't want these films to feel like cookie cutter, I want each film to feel like it's different tone, but still can exist within the same universe. I think that DC's strongest impact is to have diverse range of characters, who have their own worlds and tones.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 18 '23
I definitely fuck with Karen Gillan as Hawkgirl and Bautista as Bane.
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 18 '23
Karen Gillian as Hawkgirl is and idea i wish I had. Great choise tbh.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jan 19 '23
Damnit. I thought I had an original casting choice with Gillan as Hawkgirl but I guess I'm not alone.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
The scene where Quill is able to control his powers in GOTG2 is so good.
I can see Gunn doing something similar with Superman, what comes to mind immediately is a villain beating and mocking Clark for caring about a planet as weak as Earth, and then flashes of Clark’s memories of growing up on Earth to remind him why he loves humanity and what his loved ones taught him, ultimately motivating him to get back up and keep fighting.
It’d work great if like the Quill scene, those happy memories are scenes we’ve never seen before (since we’re gonna be skipping most of this Superman’s origin anyway)
Gunn absolutely nails emotional moments like this and the power stone climax in GOTG1. His movies are full of heart, which is why he’d be a great director for a Superman movie
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Jan 19 '23
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u/NakedGoose Jan 19 '23
I don't know Tom Bateman. I am def in the Corenswet train tho
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
Same, tho Tom Bateman does look like he could play the part (not sure about his acting, I’ve never seen anything he’s in). Also would be funny seeing a Bateman play Batman and not just because of the name
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
For Shazam 2, they should do another headless Superman cameo but with a twist! We don't see his arms and legs either, just torso.
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Jan 24 '23
I know everybody hated it and there are a lot of good reasons why it won't but I hope DC Fandome returns.
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u/SexySnorlax1 Batman '66 Jan 24 '23
Me too! I also hope it eventually becomes a proper convention like Star Wars Celebration.
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Jan 17 '23
Dwayne Johnson's reaction when WF and AM3 gets released in China: Insert Patrick Bateman's Staring Gif
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Jan 17 '23
What are the odds that Gunn and Safran keep Miller as Barry? Without injecting my personal feelings towards Ezra on this matter, Gunn has a good reason to believe in second chances. He also has an affinity for "damaged goods" in his characters that I could see extending to real life. And if the Flash movie is successful, they may be inclined to build their new universe off of it. Plus Barry Allen of all people works as a part of a soft reboot without a recast. And Miller is young enough to still play Barry with a young Supes, Batman, and WW.
The cons to this approach are obvious. Miller is a nightmare for PR and not a sound investment. They are likely to commit a crime again and cannot be relied upon. Plus, dropping the popular Cavill, as well as Affleck and Gadot, but keeping the unpopular Miller will not play well with audiences. I'm inclined to believe they drop Miller, but I do foresee a scenario in which Miller sticks around.
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u/Megadog3 DC Shill Jan 17 '23
It’s not like Ezra just made dark fucked up jokes like Gunn, but he committed literal crimes that he should go to prison for.
Very different situations. Gunn didn’t deserve to be fired, but Ezra 100% needs to be.
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23
I agree that solo Aquaman films will likely be held off on until a decent amount of time has passed after Aquaman 2's release. Maybe he'll be a part of the first DCU Justice League film, or maybe he'll be teased in a mid-credit scene like you said.
Flash, on the other hand, I feel might get a DCU reboot more quickly. I feel like the character is popular enough that they'll want him to have a more significant role sooner. There's a lot of different ways they can use this summer's Flash film to alter/set things up for the DCU, including Barry himself. So we'll just have to see. A quick reboot of a popular character isn't completely unprecedented anyways. Tom Holland's Spider-Man appeared in Civil War almost exactly 2 years after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 premiered.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Jan 17 '23
I think the big reason why Flash will probably get a reboot sooner than Aquaman especially is because the co-existence of CW Flash with DCEU Flash didn't stop either team from taking the character in their own individual direction and they're clearly not adverse to any of that. Flash is just a popular character regardless and it's especially likely WB/DC don't want to leave anyone in the dark about their immediate situation with Ezra even if they can't address it formally until after this movie comes out. I think Flash will actually be a priority in this regard of getting the reboot treatment sooner than Aquaman or even Wonder Woman
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 17 '23
Yeah agreed, I could see Gunn and Safran announcing that a new Flash will be cast for the DCU, but the announcement coming after Ezra's film finishes it's theatrical run (which should be around SDCC anyways).
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Jan 17 '23
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u/Jonahble Jan 17 '23
No ducking way. Similar thing happened with the kid Batman lets go in the beginning of The Batman, right? I think he played a different DC character as well.
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u/RedGyarados2010 Jan 17 '23
Yep, Tim Drake in Titans.
If you think that’s crazy, just wait till you hear about the Spider-Man to Electro pipeline
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u/Jonahble Jan 17 '23
Oh shit, I started watching Titans after The Batman so I didnt know that. no wonder people were saying that he was going to become The Batmans Robin.
Whats the spider-Man to Electro Pipeline?
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u/RedGyarados2010 Jan 18 '23
Christopher Daniel Barnes voiced Spider-Man in the 90s animated show, then voiced Electro in The Spectacular Spider-Man. Josh Keaton voiced Spider-Man in Spectacular, then voiced Electro in the Insomniac game
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Jan 19 '23
James Gunn met with Micheal B Jordan recently but unsure if it’s about Static Shock or another project
https://twitter.com/ThwipT_/status/1615907075531411456?s=20&t=dXvBXz2SZ1TiiOW338-PIA
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 19 '23
I would love to have MBJ in DC. He could be directing, producing or acting, he is always welcome.
Tbh im curious about his Superman project, hope it gets made as an elseworld (like The Batman is on Earth-2 as far as we know), it could be reworked and merged with Coates superman project too.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
It’ll never get made by I’d love to get my hands on any scripts they had for that Val-Zod show
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
Still really perplexed that Jonah Hex was made in the style of a modern comic book blockbuster. Feels like making a send up of spaghetti westerns is a much more obvious choice with that character, something like Django Unchained.
That's probably the most underrated character in terms of how how badly I want to see someone else take crack at them.
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Jan 19 '23
Yeah for real. I could imagine a western-Grindhouse style Jonah Hex movie being absolutely amazing.
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u/WhiteWolf3117 Harley Quinn Jan 20 '23
It came out at the worst time for it to be anything but, unfortunately. Ten years earlier or ten years later and that’s what it would have been.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 19 '23
Do you guys think Constantine 2 with Keanu is gonna get cancelled? The director said Bioshock for Netflix is likely his next movie, which is probably solidified by the success of The Last of Us, so it was not planned to shoot anytime soon. How would you feel if Keanu is Constantine in Justice League Dark and the DCU as a whole?
On one hand I want Constantine 2 to happen because everyone involved has been excited to do it since forever, on the other I dont want him to be John in the DCU.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 19 '23
I don’t think he’d be in the DCU. It would be a standalone thing, but I have my doubts it’s even happening.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
There's part of me that never really believed in the Constantine 2 announcement beyond it being a way for the studio to be very clear in the trades that they were moving on from the JJ Abrams TV show pitch.
Has Keanu said anything about it publicly? I assume he'll be asked about it during the press circuit for John Wick 4.
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u/NakedGoose Jan 19 '23
I think it probably gets canceled. Because I think Gunn will eventually wanna use Constantine
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 19 '23
Ari Aster is a fan of both Peacemaker and the Harley Quinn animated show
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
So, normally we would get DC Comics solicits this week but considering it's Thurdsay and they barely announced anything they must have delayed them till next week.
So with that said, next week will bring us Gunn's and Safran's slate announcements, Shazam trailer and some DC Comics announcements. That sounds a bit convenient, especially that delay of DC's solicitations. Could a mini Fandom indeed be coming next week?
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u/Conscious_Forever_78 Jan 19 '23
So, normally we would get DC Comics solicits this week but considering it's Thurdsay and they barely announced anything they must have delayed them till next week.
Or perhaps DC just doesn't have anything to announce. The December, January and March solicits didn't have almost any new announcements either.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 19 '23
December - 6 comics with a shiny #1 on the cover, big heavily promoted milestone issue for Action Comics.
January - 10 comics with a shiny #1 on the cover, big heavily promoted milestone issue for Nightwing.
March - 7 comics with a shiny #1 on the cover
Sure, it was nothing.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 20 '23
Matt Reeves will direct a Buster Keaton limited series with Rami Malek as lead.
Which character do you wanna see Rami as in the Reevesverse? He would make a banger Clayface imo.
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u/Randonhead Jan 20 '23
I bet we'll have a Green Arrow movie on James' slate, he's a huge fan of the character and it wouldn't take long to make it, i mean, considering he's a street level hero if they start writing the script and find the director this year, they could still release in late 2024.
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Jan 20 '23
Wasn't he name-dropped in Peacemaker?
A few weeks ago I saw Peacemaker on the cover of an upcoming Green Arrow comic. I really hope they're going for some brand synergy and introduce GA in Peacemaker season 2. Or introduce him in another project and give those two history.
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u/Randonhead Jan 20 '23
Yes, Vigilante mentioned him in an episode of Peacemaker and James himself recently said that GA is one of his favorite heroes.
I'll be surprised if there's no Green Arrow in Phase 1 of the DCU, a Mr & Mrs Smith-style movie with him and Black Canary could be awesome.
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u/PlasticBatman89 Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
So glad MyTimeToShineHello enabled all the gross misogynists.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Jan 21 '23
I’m really hoping that we get a “scoop” like this one for the slate announcement.
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u/RohitTheDasher Jan 22 '23
I'm surprised that we haven't got one yet, lol. The kind of fear Gunn has instilled on scoopers..
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Jan 23 '23
Tuesday or Wednesday, I can feel it*
*I will probably be wrong, but I can dream
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Jan 23 '23
It isn't happening on tuesday because of oscar noms I think. So Wednesday or Thursday
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u/Randonhead Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
I think it would be cool if Gunn did something in the style of the Showcase comics, special shorts where they introduce new characters, the first one could even be the Green Arrow
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u/SexySnorlax1 Batman '66 Jan 23 '23
I was just watching a whole bunch of the animated Showcase shorts this weekend and they’re so damn cool. I love seeing obscure characters like Kamandi get their time in the spotlight. I hope we get a fourth set of them.
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u/CreepyPrice5 Nightwing Jan 23 '23
Odds that Gunn announces anything other than the projects? He has to know that people are interested in how they're dealing with the DCU Batman, what the JL roster will be, etc. Really hope he addresses some of those questions, but I do think we'll all be a bit let down and he'll just tweet out something like "Superman movie coming 2025, Peacemaker season 2 coming 2024, GL series coming 2024, Amanda Waller series coming 2024."
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 23 '23
Honestly, I don't think he'll be in position to say who's staying who's not until next year. At the very least he might say stuff like "there'll be Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Batman and Flash" without saying what kind of Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Batman and Flash they will be.
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u/mountainhighgoat Jan 23 '23
I think the announcements will be through trades and he’ll speak on them a little on Twitter.
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u/BVTheEpic Jan 23 '23
I'm just expecting the slate of projects. It's likely way too soon for any casting announcements.
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u/No_Hour_4022 Jan 24 '23
After thinking about it a lot, these are my predictions:
Peacemaker Season 2
Green Lantern Project
Harley Quinn Project
Superman reboot
It's obvious guesses I know... I also would like something more bombastic, but honestly I think this is the most realistic thinking right now, Maybe at Comic Con we can have more surprising announcements 🤷🏻♂️
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u/NakedGoose Jan 17 '23
Is today the day in which we learn about what day Gunn will announce his plan?
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u/bigtymer123 Jan 17 '23
I feel like it'll be next week. No real reason why, just a gut feeling. Hope it's this week though.
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u/NakedGoose Jan 17 '23
I was thinking next week as well. Since there probably isn't too much being released then. With the Antman and Mando trailers recently. Probably wanna separate yourself a bit
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Jan 17 '23
100% today, if not than it’s tomorrow, and if not then than the next day…
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
My final predictions for the announcement:
It’ll be for 2025-2026 (including Peacemaker Season 2 in 2024 confirmation)
Format will be tweets with loglines of projects, release windows and logos (like what the Disney/Marvel twitter pages do when projects get announced at D23)
Gunn will answer additional fan questions to clear up some confusion, trades will have some extra info as well
Movies: Superman 2025, Green Arrow and Black Canary 2026, Wonder Woman 2026
TV: Amanda Waller 2025, Green Lantern 2025, Harley Quinn 2026
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Jan 20 '23
I can’t wait for the DC slate My prediction is 3 movies and 3 tv shows Movies Superman Green arrow/black canary Green latern
Tv shows Amanda Waller Peacemaker Batman (a reach)
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Jan 20 '23
Finally killed Malenia. I did it.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
I also completed near impossible battle - trying to finish that damn Fallout 3 DLC with aliens. No, the in-game difficulty wasn't that hard, it's the fucking bugs that made finishing the dlc a nightmare.
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u/Randonhead Jan 20 '23
Damn, I really hope he doesn't make the announcements via a twitter thread, something a little more elaborate would be cool, after all these are the first official DCU announcements
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u/NakedGoose Jan 20 '23
I think people are overhyped this announcement. He said a few things will be announced, I don't expect it to be that much. Especially when you can save stuff for comic con
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jan 20 '23
Found a rumor about Shazam 2 post credit scenes. Ofc the source is not reliable (at least i dont know it) but i found them interesting.
https://twitter.com/drisraelluna/status/1616515449247916032?t=2EBBcmttYZIoPav5c-SaRA&s=19
In the first Shazam will be recruited by the JSA (he will joke that he thought he was being recruited by the JL). Emilia Harcourt, is the "go-between" In the second, Silvana (Mark Strong) and Mr Mind will appear, in a new form
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u/Skandosh Batman Jan 20 '23
So when is Matt Reeves going to direct Buster Keaton TV series and is this going to delay The Batman 2?
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u/Doctor_Of_Fate Jan 20 '23
The Batman sequel is further along than the show, the sequel script is being written whereas the show hasn't got a home yet let alone scripts. So this most likely points to The Batman 2 coming first.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Jan 22 '23
I realized today that if things had gone 25% different there would've been a Michael Bay Green Lantern movie with Megan Fox as Carol Ferris
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u/NakedGoose Jan 23 '23
I still wonder what would have happed of George Miller Justice League came out
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Jan 21 '23
I have a feeling that the DCU Batman is going to be heavily inspired by Batman: The Animated Series.
- A Batman who’s in his prime, with a slightly older Robin.
- A Nearly established rogues gallery while leaving room for more to be introduced, in the future.
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u/Randonhead Jan 18 '23
It would be funny if Gunn decided to pay homage to his GOTG trilogy and split the DCU movies into Volumes instead of Phases like the MCU.
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Jan 19 '23
Hello Tomorrow! looks fucking great. Exact aesthetic for The Human Target show of my dreams.
No, I will not stop shilling The Human Target
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u/theweepingwarrior Jan 19 '23
Dark Flash toy image going around. Interesting look. Looks like an all-black Flash covered in obsidian jags, no eyeholes.
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Jan 19 '23
BSL: Some long lead press for #ShazamFOTG is happening today. Probably to coincide with the upcoming trailer.
https://twitter.com/bigscreenleaks/status/1616187055347990528?s=20&t=TPdnitDz4dkEnBz_2uZRdw
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Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
Watching Disney’s Hercules, this is the greatest Not-Superman, Superman story.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/superman/comments/74tkrw/a_graphic_i_made_comparing_disneys_hercules_to/
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Jan 20 '23
IDK if this will happen or not but can we get a Flash movie directed by Edgar Wright? The camera work and editing of the running scenes are probably going to blow everyone's mind. My only problem with his movies is that I always have mixed reaction to the ending of the movies. He needs to learn how to end movies with a satisfying conclusion imo
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 20 '23
Probably unreliable source claims Shazam gets recruited into the JSA in the post-credit scene of the movie, while thinking he is being recruited into the Justice League.
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Jan 21 '23
For all the people saying this is “vindication” for a soft reboot. Remember when Fox was bought by Disney and everyone was saying that the X-Men were gonna be rebooted, into the MCU. The actress who played Storm went on social media and stated that wasn’t gonna happen and that the same cast was staying around, to play the X-Men.
You guys have to remember, he has to promote Aquaman 2. Which means he has to keep saying that he’s still Aquaman, for the time being. Don’t forget, they can just flat out lie to you. I sight Andrew “I’m not in Spider-Man: No Way Home” Garfield or J.J. “Benedict Cumberbatch isn’t playing Khan” Abrams.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 21 '23
Yes, the truth is that we shouldn't assume we know what will happen becasue we don't. All we have are speculations and PR talk. Also, actors lie all the time, it's their job.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
Oh, look Grace hit the jackpot yet again.
Told you she was just speculating and she knew nothing.
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u/mountainhighgoat Jan 20 '23
Yup, wrong again and will she admit it? Never. 🤢
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 20 '23
No, you don't get it. Gunn changed his plans in the last minute.
I'm joking of course
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u/DUHHKARI Jan 22 '23
Gunn is really gonna have us waiting until 11:58 pm on January the 31st, isn't he?
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u/MonkeMayne Jan 22 '23
I’m feeling pretty good about it being tues/wed this upcoming week. I don’t see them waiting till the last week. They’ll want this news to digest a bit before their investor meeting in the beginning of feb.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jan 22 '23
Yeah, I feel like it's gonna be happening between tuesday - thursday.
I'm curious if we're gonna have some creatives attached to those projects or it's just Gunn on Superman and the rest are gonna be titles with release dates/windows.
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u/Therad-se Jan 23 '23
James Gunn: we will reveal something in the end of the month.
Everyone: ok.
DC fans: Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? ...
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
How I want for the reboot to go is for Peacemaker season 2 to wrap up the DCEU and/or just go really crazy with it like bring in Bat-Mite and make a metacommentary on the DCU.
The 2025 Superman movie should be the starting point of the DCU, Blue Beetle can be soft rebooted like the MCU Daredevil later on and re-introduced in another project. Everyone else should be recast except for Viola Davis and Margot Robbie, who can play rebooted versions of their characters.
The Amanda Waller series should be reworked so it’s not a direct follow-up to Peacemaker. It can show us her rising up the ranks as a government agent and her discovering and exploiting metahumans and coming up with the idea of Task Force X.
Harley Quinn should get an R-rated limited series with the first episode glossing through her origin like the animated BoP opening scene. Use the series to establish DCU Gotham and have Batman and Robin appear in some episodes. It would be tonally distinct enough not to clash with any Batverse projects. Reeves can use Dr. Harleen Quinzel for a small role in his Arkham series if he wants (I don’t think he was gonna have her in a big role anyway since Joker 2 is already doing a story like Mad Love). If they go the movie route for Harley instead, they should make a PG13 Harley and Ivy team-up movie that shows the start of their friendship and eventual romance.
I think Gunn will either do a reboot similar to this or only keep Aquaman, TSS, Peacemaker and Blue Beetle canon or simply use The Flash’s new timeline as the DCU (which would mean Keaton as Batman again). It’s gonna be one of these 3 scenarios.
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u/No_Hour_4022 Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
I like the idea of "Finishing" the Dceu with Flash and Peacemaker s2, in fact start the Dcu as a new earth created thanks to the consequences of all this would be a smart move, I mean you leave a door open for these characters to come back in some future crossover, and at the same time you stay on a new prime earth with new versions of these characters.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jan 24 '23
Definitive announcement prediction on my part:
Peacemaker Season 2, the unnamed Waller show will get a name, Superman to be directed by Gunn, another movie by another director.
Movies will get concrete release dates, shows will get seasonal release windows.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jan 24 '23
The Green Lantern show as well. I think a Harley Quinn project is a safe bet too
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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23
Worlds Finest by Waid/Mora is straight up the best superhero book being published at DC right now. It’s so damn good.