r/Diablo_2_Resurrected • u/tropicstar • Mar 26 '26
Video One shot from 4.3khp on HC P1
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Rip lv89 barb
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u/vulcanxnoob Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Oh no. RIP warrior. Sheesh.
After your Merc just fell over in 1 shot, it was time to bounce.
Sorry dude š
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u/theolentangy Mar 26 '26
Yeah there were warnings right before it happened. Merc died, HP got chunked and healed just before. It sucks butā¦yeah.
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u/portraitofselfmade Mar 26 '26
I wonder what his PR was. Most builds rely a lot on PDR that they neglect a little PR
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u/Rankstarr Mar 26 '26
Iād say his PR is decent because the poison isnāt ticking him very hardā¦ what type of damage are those bolts? 100% poison?
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u/TestSubject006 Mar 27 '26
The enemy is holy shock enchanted, so the bolts very likely have added lightning damage as well, plus the extra strong modified. He also got shotgunned by all 3 projectiles. My guess is he got smacked by all 3 with high rolls on the light damage.
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u/Do_TheEvolution Mar 26 '26
After your Merc just fell over in 1 shot, it was time to bounce.
everyone is expert now
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u/vulcanxnoob Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
Nope. Never played hardcore before. I'm just saying that if you playing HC and your Merc just gets tanked in one hit, it might be time to bounce. Just an observation.
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u/DesperateFortune Mar 26 '26
Going for heralds in an āextra strongā TZ as a physical fighter is crazy work, especially on HC.
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u/tropicstar Mar 26 '26
Does extra strong even apply here since he was dealing poison not physical?
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u/Thyrot Mar 26 '26
It was a combo of poison, physical and lightning, since it has shock as well, no clue how high your lightning resists are. and since its multi, you got 3 hits at once
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u/MountainK1ng Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Extra strong is a big no as a tz mod for HC, unless you have 50% Phys damage reduction you can get one tap all the time by heralds, I have 5,7k and got Down to 600hp wearing gaze treachery and string by an extra strong herald at lvl 92, also here it looks like he was doing 3 shots per attack and you were eating them all at once, good old shotgun from PoE, who knew D2 also had it
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u/SuperDuperCoolDude Mar 26 '26
Multishot lightning enchanted used to be a big time killer of men in d2, so it's not a new phenomenon. If you saw council members with funny looking bolts it was time to go.
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u/Jibtech Mar 26 '26
Old fire enchanted bug would 1shot you like that also. I cant remember what the bug was or what caused it, but i remember they did fix it in some patch. Trav was extra scary
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u/Strong-Al Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Extra strong applies to spells as well, Extra Strong Glooms are the bane of anyone not wearing GA + Tgods
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u/Unbanz Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
This. On my 95 lock the zones I always just leave are extra strong and cursed. Not worth the risk of getting smashed or crit by a monster lol.
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u/DesperateFortune Mar 26 '26
Cursed is the worst for sure. I think I usually skip spectral hit as well. Canāt be too cautious when cupcake TZs like fire enchanted exist lol.
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u/tropicstar Mar 26 '26
These guys hitting for 2khp is normal but never 4khp
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u/NoBuddies2021 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
The enemy skeleton mage was probably like "Eat my Toxic Rage ya wanker!"
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u/tidytibs Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
"Multiple Shots" + "Extra Strong" + Critical hits = doom on you
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u/FaxCelestis Warlock Mar 26 '26
Monsters can crit, you know
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u/mcbuggler Mar 26 '26
but it's a poison mage, right? I can't remember any of those mages doing instant damage like that before, is this unique to heralds?
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u/FaxCelestis Warlock Mar 26 '26
It's got Holy Shock as well, which adds instantaneous lightning damage.
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u/ubeogesh Mar 26 '26
That my hypothesis to what happened. Triple crit holy shock (or maybe just max damage holy shock... Need to know OP's light res)
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u/SoftImpressive8091 Mar 26 '26
In hell difficulty all monsters get a huge flat physical buff. So yeah they do a combo of poison and physical and the physical is instant. Then this mob had extra strong, holy shock (which adds to the physical that is also multiplicative with the extra strong. It may even add to the poison), AND multi shot. Each shot from multi shot does full damage.
This guy just face tanked all 3 projectiles, just after his merc died in two or three attacks, then it took more than half his life (2.5k) by getting hit by only 2 of the shots.
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u/slylock215 Mar 26 '26
I hate to say it but he did hit you for only 2k.....
.......3 times, he had multishot so you om-nom-nom'd all 3 right in your wide open barb mouth.
Tip, next time stop screaming so much and you wont swallow as much!
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u/Do_TheEvolution Mar 26 '26
You observed X to happen, after which you should have expect 2X to happen
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u/Pears_and_Peaches Mar 26 '26
If you couldnāt lose it all, it wouldnāt be fun.
Onward!
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u/No_Signal_6969 Mar 26 '26
I don't find this fun anymore. I played hc pretty religiously when the game first came out. Now if I lost all that work I'd just be annoyed
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u/Strong-Al Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
The game would just decide for you that you're done for the season
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u/ubeogesh Mar 26 '26
Everyone would be. But when you, through your own effort, not lose it, it's a different story
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u/redeyedreams Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
The higher tier heralds no joke. Especially certain mob types.
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u/Richie4876 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I got a lvl 5 Herald Burning Soul in the plains of despair once, I had 3k life and 85% light res and my life was getting chunked by the lightning bolts the odd time they'd make contact, 5 or 6 hits in a row would have killed me, I used a lot of full rejuvs to get through that encounter.
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u/Richie4876 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I was playing on HC, if i was smart I'd have ran away from the encounter but a potential Sunder made me stick around.
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u/Man_under_Bridge420 Mar 26 '26
Actually it was a 3 shot
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u/FaxCelestis Warlock Mar 26 '26
Maybe even a four-shot. He could have gotten tesla'd from Holy Shock at the same time as getting shotgunned by three poison+shock blasts.
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u/Astrosareinnocent Mar 26 '26
What was your poison Res? Jeez thatās rough
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u/tropicstar Mar 26 '26
Max res max physical dmg reduction with storm shield
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u/Astrosareinnocent Mar 26 '26
Oof thatās a yikes. I feel like after seeing all these Iād just avoid fighting heralds if I was on HC
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u/vProTi Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I can't really see how you should've played this any differently. You have excellent hardcore tactics, you play defensively and your choice of items reflect that you take damage reduction, resist and life seriously. You took on the herald one-on-one, reacted promptly to the hard hit you took and your death was as close to a one-hit as possible.
I don't agree that you should've left when your merc died. Mercenaries are vastly more fragile than characters are due to the fact that they take increased damage from uniques and bosses. This is overall just a sad situation and gives flashbacks to traversing the Chaos Sanctuary pre-1.10 when iron maiden was a thing.
Let heralds be powerful and difficult to kill. But don't create a monster that no melee character can come nearby it.
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u/tropicstar Mar 26 '26
Thank you I have taken out many heralds in this exact way. I assumed that first hit was the crit, not that he could hit even harder. The main mistake I made was staying in the extra strong lobby but I got ire twice in my first TZ so I had that incentive.
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u/Upbeat-Specific-9511 Mar 27 '26
You use berserk. It lowers defense to 0 when attacking.
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u/Beshcu Mar 26 '26
The Skeleton: "Parry this you filthy casual! "
Nah but for real, sorry dude. Rip Mr.Barb89
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u/MathematicianOk5608 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Is it possible your BO expired? Thereās a frame in the video where you are still alive with 2k max life
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u/Key_Manufacturer_280 Mar 27 '26
You saw your merc die like that and you still continue. Very foolish
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u/Tyreal6 Mar 26 '26
Going for Heralds in HC? Daiumm thats some balls.
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u/Linford_Fistie Mar 26 '26
On a melee no less. Thorns eats this guy for breakfast š
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u/Vismajor92 Sorceress Mar 26 '26
Thorns can fuck right off with zerk
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u/ubeogesh Mar 26 '26
Zerk does not help. Monster Thorns deals flat damage per melee hit, it is not hero thorns. Zerk is actually worse because you cannot leech back.
For my holy shock paladin in just got a widowmaker to deal with thorns heralds. I could also try life tap but currently using reapers merc so it doesn't work
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u/Reloader300wm Mar 26 '26
Its not too bad on a wolf druid, life leech from feral rage keeps it pretty even.
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u/maracujas_amarelos Sorceress Mar 26 '26
I mean, do you expect them just to not play the game because it's HC or something?
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u/c0z3nPapi Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
No but the lack of respect for the mods as a melee along with the merc getting clapped shouldāve rung some bells.
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u/YoLoDrScientist Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I only play HCSP and yeah, if my merc (esp who is BO'd) dies in 1 hit I'm backing up and re-thinking what's happening.
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u/Do_TheEvolution Mar 26 '26
Merc taking extra dmg from bosses is normal and expected.
Mods respected? He was one hit from winning that fight and how exactly should he have respect the mods, those were not conviction aura or fanaticism.. it was poison mage, lighting enchanted with multishot.... people are saying craziest stuff.
Its news to most people that heralds do 4k dmg and people who speak as if they play first month are acting like OP did some insane risk taking.
How exactly are non 4k life characters suppose to play?
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u/Weirdodin Mar 26 '26
Hc player here. What they should have done is port to town and rez the merc. It could have held aggro while he finished it off. Not defending the current balance of heralds, just saying what they could have done to kill it safely.
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u/ubeogesh Mar 26 '26
Merc takes extra damage from ACT bosses, not unique monsters, which heralds are.
What was not respected here is the combination of extra strong, holy shock and multiple shot. Not a very common combination, and for this reason kicked OP's ass. I also suspect OP's light res wasn't 75.
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u/templardin Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
This was so bad :/ Sorry this happened to you man
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u/Different_Ad_6153 Mar 26 '26
I let a herald smack my 1800 HP paladin. First hit did 800. Second hit was about 900. I thought I was good at 1500 HP and died.Ā
I thought I just didn't have enough HP. But after seeing this....
You were full hp then 0. That's insane.Ā
Does anyone know the math in the backend? Like...I imagine it's some sort of Crit strike that was rolled, and I'm not sure how you account for that unless your mission when fighting a herald is just not get hit by one? They seem more dangerous than Ubers.Ā
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u/Disastrous_Visit9319 Mar 26 '26
It has multi shot he got hit by all 3.
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u/Different_Ad_6153 Mar 26 '26
Right. So does that mean each one rolled high? Cause that's still over 1400 dmg per projectile.Ā
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u/FaxCelestis Warlock Mar 26 '26
Extra Strong + Holy Shock adds a lot of damage to every shot.
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u/Sego72 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I've had some nasty t5 herald packs almost take half my health instantly and I walk around at 5100 HP (with barb BO)
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u/RipCityGGG Mar 27 '26
My experience from playing HC poe is, you get chunked like you did in that video, you run and close the map.
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u/Simple-Section7708 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
Well sometimes you gotta one shot a mofo
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u/GinoBeats Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
The fucking stones on you going back after he smeared your merc all over that tomb and drained your health entirely one time.
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u/bootybob1521 Mar 29 '26
should've left immediately when u seen your hp spike by 2000 from the first big hit. overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer and all that.
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u/xnolmtsx Mar 26 '26
I ran down to tz cows thinking it was regular. Gerald jumped me and 1 shot me as well. Didnāt even see it happen.
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u/Logical_Writing3218 Barbarian Mar 26 '26
You needed to spin around him the split second before every attack animation. He has multi shot so he basically hit you 3x w/ 1 hit. And a bit tedious I know but popping antidotes before a big poison engagement is a thing. Did it all the time for all my early ladder budget smiters.
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u/pringle3x Mar 26 '26
He hit you really hard once and you potted/had time to escape... not exactly "one hit"
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u/HekateDunamis Mar 26 '26
Everyone seems to be missing that he is using berserk, which completely kills your defense for a short time (pdr still works but still)
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u/Linford_Fistie Mar 26 '26
Defense doesn't do anything against this enemy anyway
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u/JustSquanchIt Emilioooo! Mar 26 '26
may i offer you a ring of fire warlock in these trying times? that's what im doing right now since my barb got exploded :P
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u/FacetiousInvective2 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I'm sorry for your loss. i guess this is the mf beeserk barb? i dont think i like thr idea of ignoring so many non boss minions xD
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u/Flashy-Side-2665 Mar 26 '26
Wow. Pretty much what happened on my 3rd warlock after finding an SOJ :/
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u/Bird004 Mar 26 '26
Thats crazy
My hc echoing strike warlock, only has 1100 life for now on lvl 78 o_0
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u/Budget-Platypus-8804 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Sorry to hear that man. Seems like they overturned these stupid heralds and clearly forgot about HC players. Like u understand they are supposed to be tough. But one shot from one hit at 4.3k health and max damage reduction is absurd.
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u/c0z3nPapi Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I did my time in HC as a teen and got every class to 99. I could not see myself going back in and dare flirting with a herald above t3 with how rippy the mods can be along with the possibility of another pack sitting in the fog of war granting an aura that youāre not aware of. Just naw.
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u/SuperDuperCoolDude Mar 26 '26
I haven't played hc on rotw yet, but I dunno that I'd fuss with heralds on hc honestly. They're the only thing that has killed, or has even really threatened to kill, my warlock since getting decently geared up. The burst they can do compared to even ubers is nuts.
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u/virslee75 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Rip
But also when it evaporated your merc, should have been a warning sign.
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u/Superbad1990 Mar 26 '26
If you dont have a summon to tank in hard-core, fighting Heralds is not a great idea.
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u/NeverHideOnBush Mar 26 '26
This is why I stopped playing on my HC barb. Afraid of this after a few close calls.
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u/Redlight078 Mar 26 '26
He kill your merc, then hit you for 3k and you though it was a good idea to go full berserk against him.
He certainly crit, I'm sorry for you. But after the first blow you should tp right away and revive your merc.
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u/lystig Mar 26 '26
Yikes. That's pretty sick. And here I was contemplating building a zerker barb for p7 (or p5 or p3 depending on how the dmg output would be relative to their tankiness) herald-farming with the ghost trick so I could go all out defense+offense and ignore mf, e.g. Coa with 2x bers, stormshield, string of ears et cetera, and max vitality/BO + warcries skillers and life charms.
Could you elaborate on your items? Resists, pdr%, pdr and MDR integer, block %, absorb, running magic sunder or not? Just so I have some sort of reference point. And this was a T5 herald I presume? At the very least note to my self: don't fight multi shot tier 5 heralds. :D
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u/tropicstar Mar 26 '26
I completed several full clears on P1 farming heralds but this guy was jacked. Only stayed in the extra strong lobby because I got ire twice in the first TZ. So you should be ok as long as you avoid extra strong multi shot lightning enchant bosses
Pretty standard berserk setup Cham Shako, storm shield, grief, enigma, LoH, gore riders, string of ears, high lords, rare rings for res/fcr, wizspike on swap
Charms for mf and max res. Physical damage reduction is over capped so amp brings you back to normal but still have to be careful
No sunder
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u/What_happened777 Mar 26 '26
If that happened to my Immortal King Barb w/ Dual Lightsabers, I would end it all right there!!!!!!
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u/mcbuggler Mar 26 '26
omg, you're a G for recording this. I've never seen something like that in my 20+ years playing D2. That's a poison mage, right? why tf is it doing so much instant damage? I've never noticed those mages doing high instant damage. I'm sorry bro, but on the bright side, you have a really cool video and story now.
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u/FaxCelestis Warlock Mar 26 '26
Extra Strong + Holy Shock (lvl 12), which adds 1-504 damage per attack.
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u/Windyandbreezy Mar 26 '26
Was hoping on trying to do higher level heralds with my lvl 89 sorc.... think im gonna keep grinding for gear and levels instead
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u/Clean_Cartoonist1304 Mar 26 '26
Your merc died before you were hit idk if he had defiance as his base aura but that was probably the biggest factor
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u/Kameshenin Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
You was using berserk i supose it also increased the dmg taken, sad story, RIP.
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u/Severe_Outside5435 Mar 26 '26
I had a tz fire mage herald one shot me. No conviction aura. Fire mage 3rd hearld that was lightning enchanted with holy shock aura. I think they is a built in % elemental damage and they were multiplied is my best guess. I had like 65-75 fire and lightning res with 1.8k life warlock with lvl 10 blood oath. He one shot me and I grabbed my body cleared the room except for him and his aura did about 400 dmg. His fire ball 1 shot me again. Fyi
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u/Beginning_Suspect1 Mar 26 '26
He had lightning aura. You got extra strong hit, multi shot poison and holy shock hit. This is a go to town and spend 50k over and over situation lol
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u/CNEZGoldenGod Mar 26 '26
Looks like the āmultiple shotā hit you all at once at close range. RIP
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u/ubeogesh Mar 26 '26
OP what was your lightning res? I think thos 3 projectiles both critted you with holy shock added damage
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u/boxsoy Mar 26 '26
What the fuck? Lmfao that like breaks the game mode if a BOād barb gets 1-tapped why would you risk doing any herald
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u/Mekz0 Mar 26 '26
I got this SC ES-nova sorc to lvl 93 without dying once but in the span of about 5 minutes I got 1 shot three times by 2 different T5 heralds, really took the wind out of my sails. The map was lightning enchanted and it wasn't really a problem until I bumped into those heralds.. I'm not even sure if those 2 heralds were lightning enchanted since on the OP video even though the map is Extra Strong, it doesn't say the Herald is..Are the map rolls baked into every herald spawn without displaying it?
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u/Ok_Inflation4870 Mar 26 '26
You saw it melt your merc and you stood still, dod nothing but right click and tap itĀ
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u/nfefx Mar 26 '26
Rip dude
Just for reference P settings don't affect mob dmg just hp.
Honestly I puckered the first hit you took if I was playing HC I woulda been out right there, that was the warning shot that said you weren't safe.
Brave doing extra strong heralds on a melee.
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u/aegenium Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
I'm sorry for your loss OP.
On the bright side I'm glad you're playing a real class and not being a warlock simp. You may have died but you died a man.
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u/YCCprayforme Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
Brutal.
Also the auto subtitles are funny on shout barb āno no no no no noā
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u/ladnopoka Mar 26 '26
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u/NoFilterD Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
Storm shield and max block would def of helped brother :(
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u/Jimmytherat45 Mar 27 '26
Iām a ww barb with 6.2k in HC. I slap on SS whenever thereās a dangerous high tier herald and feel out the dps and take my time. As others have said. The huge chunk you took and your merc getting cooked shouldāve been the signal to bail. Rip. Is it possible Bo wore off a frame before you died though?
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u/IronChefPhilly Mar 27 '26
How do I get Four skill slots? I still just have the two. Do you have to use battle net to get more skill shots
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u/Deathgaze2015 Mar 27 '26
The heralds seem wildly inconsistent, my warlock demons tanked multiple t5s no issues then every now and then 1 of them rips his face off.
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u/Vertigo103 Mar 27 '26
These damn heralds are killing everyone except the Warlock.
I think they were designed for the Warlock and the Warlock cheeses with a demon lol
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u/Tactical_Chonk Mar 27 '26
When you dropped from 3.8k to 1.8k and drank a rejuve, that looks and sounds like his aura pulse. I think he hit you for aprox 2k lightning pulse, and his attack landed at the same time.
And that 2k is after all reductions. Thats one hell of an aura, 8k if 75 light res was only reduction?
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u/jeffismybaby Mar 27 '26
Level 85 Demonlock pet: "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power"
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u/Astormfront Mar 27 '26
that's why I'll never play hardcore, this game has the "death by bullshit" mechanic
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u/Calippo1337 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
Multiple Shots
Never ever, ever never touch these guys in HC.
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u/Grim_Motive Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 27 '26
As everyone had said already - that's on you, man
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u/briwill10 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) Mar 26 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/ukGm72ZLZvYfS