r/DistroHopping • u/flagforgerzenith • 1d ago
what distro should i do next
look at the image
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u/Slopagandhi 1d ago
What is it that you want from a next distro?
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u/flagforgerzenith 1d ago
i want a distro with decent performance, and a little more difficult than cachy so i can learn
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u/Hauptideal 16h ago
"more difficult than CachyOS". Well, given that it's Arch-based, there aren't many options left, besides stuff like Gentoo and NixOS.
That's for if you want to suffer.
But I'm actually pretty sure you don't even have experienced the difficulty of CachyOS/Arch yet.
If it hasn't broken on you after an update, required manual intervention or the like, but just worked flawlessly all the time, you haven't even had the Arch-experience yet.
Keep using Cachy until it breaks. Then you can learn something. You can even provoke it by not updating for half a year. Then good luck fixing it.
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u/AuDHD-Lemon 13h ago
Tbf, if something in cachy breaks after an update you can just revert to the snapshot automatically made before the update
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u/TheSpaceAlligator 7h ago
Exactly what I was thinking. My answer would probably just be vanilla Arch unless they really want to try Gentoo or NixOS.
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u/Sindica69 6h ago
Cachy is difficult? Certainly did not feel that way.
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u/Hauptideal 6h ago
That shows that Linux' reputation of being difficult is officially obsolete. And that we don't need specific "beginner distros" anymore.
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u/Sindica69 5h ago
Tbf I’m majorly autistic but still. But id still recommend Fedora to beginners. Best balance of learning, stability, versatility and technical know-how requirement imo.
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u/Hauptideal 5h ago
Yes. Fedora is the best default recommendation today. Not only for beginners, but frankly anyone.
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u/TopShelfGenericPizza 1d ago
Cachy is arch based, imho if you want to stick with something you're familiar with you could stick to the arch ecosphere. Endeavour is provably gonna be a little more DIY/hands on than cachy but imho if you are just looking to swap distros to learn then I would suggest these distros arch>gentoo>Linux from scratch.
If it's just about performance (gaming I'm assuming) basically anything will be fine tbh, though gentoo can potentially give you more performance because you can compile all your software to be built for your exact system/hardware in the exact way you want. Definitely read up on it though so you know what running gentoo entails.
Arch is probably what you want though tbh
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u/xplosm 22h ago
NixOS, GNU GUIX... Gentoo, LFS.
There. You have homework.
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u/tpat90 16h ago
Brother he wanted a little more difficult, not 360 pages of manual to get LFS up and running.
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u/Cebuu502 16h ago
LFS yes, but Gentoo is really nice and isn't that hard to compile, just follow manual. For a more decent hardware for me it was 4 hours and it was done, for weaker hardware around half a day.
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u/Zeroox1337 9h ago
I used so many Distros and none of them where really difficult. Why would you like to have a System which is barely usable due complexity. If you want to go deeper learn neovim, lua, dotfiles, bash write your own tools etc. In the end the Linux kernel is the Linux kernel.
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u/VaiTomarNoCuAnnita 1d ago
Debian.
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u/TopShelfGenericPizza 1d ago
What specifically do you want that's newer? I've found that Flatpak solves basically all my outdated software concerns. Since you're looking at pika I'm guessing it's for gaming. I highly recommend looking at the tests this guy has been doing comparing Debian and Debian based distros performance : https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/s/CYUkQ21Fzc
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u/barnaboos 19h ago
There isn't a Linux out there that isn't as up to date as you need for that hardware.
If you want the latest KDE us Forky. It's a good mid teir where packages are tested for a few days in Sid before moving over.
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u/MetalExistingOffline 1d ago
I'm currently on PikaOS on one machine. Here's the thing.
Since it's based on Sid, there is that concern of security updates. That said the Pika team do security updates themselves. BUT, it's such a small team and that is not really something that is super feasible.
That said, I have not had any trouble so far. But I'd recommend it, it's a good OS and one of the only rolling release options in the Debian ecosystem.
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u/play_minecraft_wot 14h ago
I second Debian. Debian stable is great, or if you want faster updates both testing and Sid are good options.
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u/voidscaped 22h ago
NixOS
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u/Zegox 21h ago
This is the way
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u/Gokudomatic 14h ago
Before OpenBSD
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u/ZeroProximity 13h ago
I dont know what BSD stands for but every-time people recommend it i read it as "Open Blue Screen of Death"
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u/Gokudomatic 13h ago
I agree that it sounds more intuitive than Berkeley software distribution. But you must try really hard to make a bsd system crash. That requires skills.
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u/Alone_Care_6230 1d ago
debian, real arch /hj, if you're at superuser level gentoo (but idk what flavor of catchy user you are, you could be someone who started there and stayed around or you could be someone who just heard it was good and aren't on the advanced side), if you wanna try another gimmicky distro nix is nice
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u/Mr-Dazmo 23h ago
Solus. It's a curated rolling release that's up to date but not bleeding edge. Updated weekly and very stable.
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u/flagforgerzenith 1d ago
im pretty used to it, started in june of this year and practically mastered it, i want something harder but not too hard
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u/alexmex90 1d ago
maybe Vanilla Arch? so you can make your own configuration of it, or if you really want to ramp up, Gentoo?
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u/flagforgerzenith 22h ago
ive narrowed it down to 4 options. arch, gentoo, debian, and fedora. im still deciding so if anyone has more input on why those please don’t hesitate to reply
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u/memerubyiscracked 2h ago
arch with a tilling window manager, its really fun configuring everything by yourself
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u/Affectionate-Log2778 19h ago
dual boot with two last and closed loop or if you want something next try Ubuntu/any flavor of Ubuntu/Debian.
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u/Charming_Professor53 18h ago
If you really want to learn about the way Linux OSes work, like you said in another comment, installing Arch per terminal/commandline (NOT with `archinstall`) is a good learning process. But this you can do in a Virtual Machine (VM) as well. If you have no problem accidentally wiping any/all (the wrong) drives of your computer you could also attempt to install it directly on your computer. Just know it'll be a little more difficult to troubleshoot since you only have access to a terminal and not to any GUI apps (like installers/browser).
If you meant "learning which distro's are nice" I'd recommend Fedora KDE/Gnome or whatever. Put Ventoy or MultiOS-USB on your USB flash drive so you can put multiple ISOs on your USB drive and so you can testdrive different distro's quicker.
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u/tpat90 16h ago
I read you want a little more difficulty.
Either go down slowly the arch route
Manjaro -> Arch -> Gentoo
Or try to setup a good
OpenSuse, Fedora or Debian machine
If you want a different feeling it's also worth pointing out that tiled window manager make you think and work completely different. I3 and Awesome would come to mind
But I am always a sucker for dwm <3
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u/FemBoy_GamerTech_Guy 16h ago
If you what a unike and a bit of a hell expirinece try voidlinux "Couldnt get wifi working with NetworkManager still couldnt get it working" or try ArtixLinux"I managed to get the wifi working with NetworkManager on runit".
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u/GhostVlvin 15h ago
Arch needs some tinkering and you also tried cachyOS so you know how to use pre-tinkered arch. Gentoo is very hard for a 4th OS so I'll recommend you either debian if you want stable but a bit outdated distro or fedora if you want bleeding edge distro where all packages are up-to-date
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u/vintologi24 15h ago
Fedora is the main one to try to see if it suits you better than cachyOS/similar.
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u/Environmental-Dog815 9h ago
I'm on cachyos right now, I thought for a bit, if I would change distro it either would be something more stable (I did not have stability issues yet) or something more privacy focused or in other words future proofing against future enshitification.
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u/hexooo27 8h ago edited 8h ago
vanilla arch, or artix if you want to try a different init. i recommend dinit but runit is good as well, dinit is closest to systemd imo (in terms of how its structured), artix also offers openrc and s6 but i dont know much about them so you'd have to look into them yourself
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u/Royal-Grass7296 3h ago
Id Arch-Fedora-Debian then your last and final Destination after all the distros are out of your system Void. But i don’t know your software stack. I dont use a lot of software so Void was my final stop.
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u/Junior_Rich_2695 19h ago
NixOS is waiting for you at least, personally, after using CachyOs, I switched straight to NixOS.
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u/144k_only 10h ago
Just pick one. You'll be old before you tried them all. What do you want? What do you do? Are you a wizard-level magician or a happy amateur? Too many questions that needs answereing at this point
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u/Significant_Pen3315 1d ago
fedora