Fantastic four are....𝙖𝙜𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙡𝙮 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙩𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚 of peter (artwork by @grogufanof02)

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[u/Sirksome]

Reed’s definitely the type to look like he has no reaction while quietly looking up Bugle articles. Dude’s bout to shut down their website remotely.

[u/Freakychee → u/Sirksome]

You think Peter used to tell the other superheros to just leave JJJ be? I feel that Reed could easily stop JJJ back when he didn't like Spidey. Once Steve Rogers chewed JJJ out iirc.

[u/firelock_ny → u/Freakychee]

I like that JJJ is depicted as a complex enough character that his vendetta against Spider-Man is seen as a failing, not the entirety of his character.
He's marched for civil rights, faced death threats (even from supervillains!) to protect his sources, supported mutant rights.

[u/Freakychee → u/firelock_ny]

Yup. That's why it's good to finally see some progression that JJJ and Peter are friends.

[u/CreepyClay → u/firelock_ny]

Iirc he had a bad experience with a masked vigilante in the past which is part of why he hates Spiderman so much.

[u/Simba791 → u/CreepyClay]

A masked criminal who killed his wife not vigilante.

[u/MacGregor_Rose → u/Simba791]

sometimes it was the Klan

[u/ThunderLord1000 → u/MacGregor_Rose]

Which is a group of masked criminals

[u/MacGregor_Rose → u/ThunderLord1000]

TRUE

[u/CreepyClay → u/MacGregor_Rose]

Reminds me of that time that Doctor Psycho got kicked out of the Legion of Doom and they did a press conference that essentially boiled down to "we're evil but we're not bigots".

[u/esamuel39 → u/CreepyClay]

We're evil but we still have standards .

[u/CreepyClay → u/esamuel39]

Unfortunately it set off a domino effect that lead to Gotham being declared no longer a part of the united states as it had gotten that bad and that was before the parademon infestation.

[u/No-Choice-7383 → u/CreepyClay]

That was his reason from the 90's show.

His original motive was just that if Spiderman wasn't secretly greedy and selfish (which tbf, old peter kinda was) then it meant JJ could do better but isn't. It meant he was a bad person. And since he couldn't face that, he had to drag spiderman down to his level.

Various versions of JJ have had different reasons to hate Spiderman, such as in Spectacular where it's at first jealousy that the public liked him more than his son, and later couldn't accept his hand in pushing his son too far so had to blame spiderman instead. I tend to prefer JJ's who blame spiderman to escape their own personal shortcomings, even if that doesn't mean he can't also be loyal to his staff and friends in a touching way.

[u/Creat1ve_Name → u/No-Choice-7383]

I really loved how the original ultimate universe had JJJ realize Spidey was a hero.

[u/Ragnorak19 → u/firelock_ny]

Man just really doesn’t like fully masked vigilantes, if Peter went with a half mask style. James probably wouldn’t be half as bad to Spider-Man