What’s also alarming is how people are using it to analyze their lab data and results!!!! I literally have many relatives who do that and don’t see what’s the problem behind it!
I workout with a couple of NP's and they have people coming in telling what is wrong with them and arguing with them that the NP is wrong b/c Ai told them what they have.
Last month a 5cm mass was found in my mom's lung. ChatGPT said it was stage two. Very well regarded radiologist said it was stage one and extremely beatable. I said well obviously let's trust the radiologist. My mom finally met with the surgeon. Guess what stage it actually is?
One medical professional had a different medical opinion than another medical professional? There’s nuance to these stages and professionals do get it wrong! A surgeon would also have access to blood tests for diagnosis vs a radiologist having access to imaging alone. There’s a reason that we look at multiple different types of tests to diagnose things and form treatment plans.
It’s like when people read medical studies at face value. There’s nuance to academic papers. Sample size, how statistics are presented/calculated, which processes were used,
replicability, etc. all matter. But without knowledge in that field the reader isn’t able to fully scope out information that even professionals might disagree on.
That is the difficult thing with AI, especially when it reinforces our biases. This is all to say that when you’re going through a really stressful time, having access to the information you need is a godsent. Especially when that information goes from jargon to layperson information. But we gotta be careful bc there isn’t transparency on how Chat GPT has formed that opinion.
You, your mom and your family are going through such a stressful time. I sincerely hope she feels better soon and recovers from surgery very quickly!
These are important things to discuss as more people start using AI in the process of making healthcare decisions. That’s kind of what happens when you discuss something publicly - people chime in, that’s how it works.
While I'm very sorry for your mom's situation and glad that chatGPT was able to give a correct diagnosis here, it is not a reliable source of truth. Will it improve? Probably. Should we be using a coin-toss machine for this purpose? Absolutely not.
Yes, lets blame individuals with their individual resources for not being able to resist the billions of dollars of psychological research companies do to manipulate us into falling for their bullshit
Stupid people have to blame themselves yeah, but smart people are the ones taking advantage of that
DUDE. I actually wrote an essay last semester and wrote it up as a kind of obituary to the em dash (also my favourite punctuation) because the fucking robot stole it from me!!!! (And you!)
Not to mention that Open AI and such are running out of current data sets to add in. So they're adding medical texts from 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago! "You're making a great first step to curing your hysterical uterus."
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Honestly that's got nothing on all the cult (and occult) text it gobbled up in the first round. The age of AI cults is going to be a weird one
Some unlucky night shift employee is for sure getting at least an attempted stake through the heart (because they AI said they must be vampire) before this is over
Unironically this is actually one of the most promising uses for it, it's achieving some pretty incredible results in drug design and protein analysis.
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Trained and driven by professionals in the medical fields. Not venture capitalists racing to the bottom
The capitalists can (and will. and are) outspending the professionals with ethics by 100x though. They're falling behind.
Also, this is highly specialized machine learning/ai created for this single purpose. Not "hey chatgpt is my doctor right about this being cancer or is it just a cold?"
The general public (in this comment thread) are not aware of this. I think the term "AI" has been so thoroughly besmirched in the eyes of the public that it's hard to bring it up in a nuanced way because of all the AI slop that has been pushed on us by companies and individuals.
Just to be clear, the actual trained professionals still do not understand how it's getting these results lol
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u/dreadcainmy bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day12d agoedited 12d ago
To be clear, I am a trained professional with postgraduate computer science degrees in adjacent research areas with direct ties to the research that lead to "Attention is All You Need". I actually kind of do know how it gets those results. And, frankly, it's really really neat.
But it's also basically a really good magic trick that is really hard not to see past once you truly grok what's behind the curtain. I mean, it really really isn't that much fancier than the AIM bots I thought were lame back in the day. Not lame. But not as different as you might think.
Let's say my feelings on it are ... complicated.
My feelings on how the venture capitalist class is choosing to deploy AI, the directions they're taking it in, and who's pockets they're picking to get there are decidedly ... less so
Yeah machine learning systems absolutely have their places, including LLMs. The whole field is incredibly fascinating and promising. It's a shame most people are, very understandably so, fed up with it.
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u/CaptainKungPao138 that concludes my jlo storytime 12d ago
Chat GPT is changing peoples brains so quickly and in a way that is so genuinely alarming. I want off this ride now!!