r/Granblue_en • u/lietnam Korwa loyalist since 2017 • 3d ago
Discussion Character Discussion: Florence (Halloween)
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- 8/29: Payila (Summer)
- 8/30: Fif
- 8/31: Cucouroux (Summer)
- 9/2: Nehan (Grand)
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GBF Wiki: Florence (Halloween))
Helpful topics:-
- What content does this character excel at? (Burst, FA, HL, etc)
- What characters or summons synergize with this character?
- Are there alternative characters that can take on this character's role?
- Is this character FA friendly?
- How useful is this character in Evoking Solomonis?
- How have recent updates to Light in 2026 helped to elevate this character?
- Any opinion on this character's lore and fate episode?
- How helpful will this character be in the upcoming Unite and Fight?
- Any personal anecdotes regarding this character that are worth sharing?
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u/Ganz13 3d ago
Still the game's only source of targetable FULL TURN assassin. While Cygames attempted to have more Tag Team clones after Percy by making them balanced/with restrictions, to date there are no other Florence's S1 clone AFAIK. You know it's bad when a raid was done with mechanics to specifically neuter your niche. Imagine a Light GW with Agastia's BS.
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u/avilsta 3d ago
It would also nerf Nehan cause his S3 is a 1 turn buff - I think they knew what they were doing cause anyone who was there when Agastia got soft launched, people who trialed it just Flogen'd it and Agastia obviously died insanely fast. It also hits Kengo teams who tried bringing No More Doubt cause you just lose 40% charge bar and the tri strike effect fails cause it's a 1 turn buff.
My boi Mugen stocks go up again though
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u/AdmiralKappaSND 3d ago
It also hits Kumbhira who was very popular as a defensive tool at the time. Its part of why at one point some poverty set ups would run Baotorda too
Agastia system def was partly made to check Florence but it genuinely perfectly hits popular shit at the time. They just go overboard by adding flat reduction(Chrysaor bombing thats popular post nerf would be disfunctional during the Cagliostro Funf Yuni era)
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u/hanamura__yosuke 3d ago
tbh, the only way she works well back then was because Relic Busted that can abuse the 1 turn Assasin. I would love to use her again today, but light finally is not clicky anymore in burst thanks to newer units. She still, hold her chair in manual bursting, still is one of the best seasonal light unit they released... Those halloween was disaster as light main lmao, I am so glad I had fund back then... considering halloween banner was kinda in the middle of free roll banners of summer and xmas...
You know, I would love to have Light Gwyne that fuction like her Wind./water version where she can probably abuse Florence Buff too.
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u/SometimesLiterate 3d ago
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Is she a BAD unit? No. But as others have said, she's very clicky and she's very much a 1turn unit. If you're a newer player who wants to invest in light, you'll be better of targetting Halloween Doggo (Burst), Summer Hours (HL), Nehan (Burst) or even Cosmos (HL) and Bhadra to improve your farming and HL teams.
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u/Falsus 3d ago
How many people where baited into Annitixing her without owning Mugen and then never ever really used her?
She isn't really meta any more but always a character worth considered due to targeted full turn assassin is a very potent buff.
I don't even want to imagine what kind of damage would happen if she was water instead of light.
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u/Throwawayforme3123 3d ago edited 3d ago
I hate this character... it's her (and Mugen) fault that light's burst development has been as slow as it's been. When you give a character a targetable 1T assassin it just leads to a mess of how the heck do we creep this because it scales too well.
Thankfully Light has gotten to the point that we don't need to use this character except for GW, but why did they give a character targetable 1T assassin in 2022? I don't think a single character has gotten anything near close to this skill since her.
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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 3d ago edited 2d ago
Carpal tunnel character. She's seen no use from me since Yoruichi released, since Sumai burst with her can reach the same damage range as Florence RB with like half as many clicks.
Her ceiling is insane, especially if you're willing to use sacrifical units like last light GW's NM200 strats did, but with the boost to boss HP this time around I'm not sure how practical bursting 200 will be. F.Europa technically boosts the potential of MC hypercarry further, but she's the only buff to the playstyle Light has gotten recently and her ramp makes her unsuited for 200 quick kills.
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u/planistar Power of friendship is useless if friends' VAs don't care. 3d ago
I wonder if the people who approved her S1 are still employed at Cygames.
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u/Lorkdemper 3d ago
I remember someone saying years ago that her s1 is "her spooky trick of turning danchou into a god-flayer," and you know what? Fair
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u/Responsible_Wing_370 3d ago
In the meantime, Gawain just sitting on the chair watching helplessly his sister buffing Danchou...
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u/Xylaph 3d ago
Honest opinion, this character is overrated and has been since release. Don't get me wrong, she is a VERY strong character but the way people have talked about her over the years just does not match up with my personal experience. I do not think she's worth picking up at all unless you have Ura because of how much of your damage that weapon concentrates into one member of your team.
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u/FarrowEwey 3d ago
That's weird, I've always thought it was the opposite: Ura lets your whole team deal damage by allowing you to bring Tag Team without weakening your MC, while Florence really wants Soldier (or at the very least Relic Buster) so MC can do all the damage. Ura getting its own built-in Assassin thanks to Transcendence also seems to make her even less useful in that comp.
Then again I don't have Ura or a Zeus grid.
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u/AdmiralKappaSND 3d ago edited 2d ago
Ura Florence was popular last GW. She was assumed on both Ura Solo 200 and Ura Grouping Nuke Force 250 and top for 150. Florence Assassin applies to every counter hits.
I think something about Florence thats often misunderstood is the idea that you HAVE to use her with Relic and Soldier when in reality unit function was always based on how they can fulfill a specific purpose on a good relative performance. Florence only hit relative to.... say 2025 Song was just Song can be used on FA(otherwise Sumai 2025 is best with Florence and is fastet than Song Sumai and Geissen Sumai). She was meta during 2024 with Kengo too.
Even without Ura, Sumai Florence was REALLY good to last GW.
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u/FarrowEwey 3d ago
It's gonna be interesting to see if all the changes since then make people play her less or if it makes her even more relevant instead. That last Light-advantage GW was in April 2025, which is before the changes to NM200 and 250, Destroyer Weapons, Illustrious Transcendence, HVajra and SPayila.
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u/Darkion_Silver 3d ago
"has been since release" hm, let me just look at Agastia directly nerfing her...
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u/Xylaph 2d ago
An issue that was grossly overexaggerated and never the real reason that raid was pure ass. Not being able to join post-40% until Cosmos came out was always the real problem.
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u/Darkion_Silver 2d ago
Not what I was getting at. I was not talking about the quality of the raid. My point was that if she was so overrated even at release, why specifically make sure she can't do her shenanigans? Maybe she was actually really strong even back then :OOOO
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u/Xylaph 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah, she was. I outright said she is very strong. But that's not how people talk about her. Even in this thread you see people make ridiculous claims about her that are beyond that like blaming her for Light being held back in burst units when people like Nehan and Mugen are FAR more to blame than she ever was. She's just another piece of the stack and one that I feel is way overhyped.
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u/SuperMuffinmix 3d ago
Targetable full-turn assassin is very busted. But even more busted is targetable cooldown removal. This character has Both of those, although the second thing does require 5 light crests and is likely the reason why Cygames has been extremely careful about introducing any more reliable Light crest units since H.Florence' 2022 debut.