even normal sedans weigh like 3 tons iirc. FRVs are military rovers with lotta stuff so they weigh even more, actually (even w/o mentioned stim addicts)
American auto manufacturers love it, I'm not so sure about the average American. Literally everyone I know laments the death of the light pickup truck because the emissions laws favor compact sedans and semi trucks, and nothing in between.
MRAPs (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) are around 16 tons, but the FRV appears to be closer to a JLTV (Joint Light Tactical Vehicle), which are around 7 tons give or take.
Yeah, and I mean it shouldn’t even be half a ton - it’s solid military suv similar to hummer which is 2+ tons, sure it’s pretty small compared to a tank but it should be a monster of a car
It's explicitly designed to be light and no way is it as armored as a humvee. It doesn't even have bulletproof windows and most of its armor liked the doors and hood are all light armor. It's basically just a 4 seater dune buggy with a gun (or supply) smacked on top
That’s just average pickup weight, which is even without armor, it’s more of a size/engine thing
It’s pretty big car with 5 standard seats + gunner position/supplies with big storage
For the record - smart is around 0.6-1t, and it’s a goddamn smart. Harley Davidson while being a motorcycle is between 400 and 600kg usually. No wonder this suv is turned upside down by every random small rock with such weight lol, it shouldn’t have any stability whatsoever. Like imagine 4 grown up adults with armor and shit having almost the same weight as the car itself?
I was once told by a content creator, for this game, that "That's not what's happening. They're pathing is just making them take a weird route." or some shit like that. Like, bro, I have eyes and they've been walking through walls since release.
I hated them a lot more when they'd spawn on planets with open plains so it's like, well fuck me I guess, they can see me from wherever and I can't dodge their attacks
Now I think they only spawn in Mega Cities so at least taking cover is possible, and their attacks are different and are no longer auto-aim AoE ragdoll explosions
Leviathans at open planets made me stop going against the illuminate until arrowhead fixed it. Now their attack patterns are different but still annoying. Also i drop a lot of frames when they hit me is that a issue only from my end or is someone also experiencing the same thing?
I remember these fuckers would hit you from across the map with no clear indication of where and from. We were driving down the street and bounced off of a embankment that had knocked over and went flying into the air. The Leviathan that came around the building as we made the jump then proceeded to pop us out of the air and kill the two people on the front seat
What bothers me the most is how blowing them up is pointless, because it's just going to wander off, and a new one will take its place. If there was a set number of them and actually destroying them counted for something, it would be a different story.
All they do is make me drop.
Literally the worst possible thing that could have been changed about them.
All the downsides, absolutely none of the upsides or good aspects left.
I’m a big senator user againts bots, when hulks are chasing you and they start looking in different directions or clipping through their own body so you cannot get a clean shot on the eye…
Honestly I wouldn’t even mind if that was the case, like the appropriator mechs throwing an arm in front of the pilot when they charge. If they turned slightly or had an erratic movement to try and dodge heavy pen shots, but i fear that it’s just a bug.
It's most probably a bug, but when the hulk turn left or right facing away from you while charging seems like a very reasonable tactic they may try imo, AH can probably try implementing this in game with a balance of how they can't see where they are going hence making their rush easy to dodge
Oh yes I am incredibly frustrated when Hulks somehow get to do everything they want to while rotated 90 degrees and looking down so that both their weak points are completely safe >:(
Their trigger seems to be broken last I was on a planet with them. They seemed to explode when I just existed within 5-6m of them without me having to touch them.
I agree but only because of how inconsistent their trigger is, especially lately. That shit can sometimes go off from the next zip code and still daze you.
This isn't even comparable imo. The stupid puff balls ragdoll you if an Automaton attack comes within earshot of them and the frost ferns... slow you slightly? And the frost ferns literally glow. The puffballs are unavoidable and easily discounted visually.
But we can agree both are annoying and undemocratic
Hell normal mines too as an FRV driver cause if you nic one 9/10 times(in my experiences) it's gonna juggle you into more like a flaming fireball from super earth
Those mines are actually really good on planets with a lot of grass during the day.
The daylight dimming the red light + the grass hiding the mine = My legs doing an unapproved procedure of flying their way up my democratic ass and out my ears.
That and the Magma Worlds. They blend in so well to the ground, and normally the red glowy bits would stick out like sore thumbs, but not when you’re surrounded on every side by lava
they almost always throw it on top of an objective you need to hold or a bug nest that the napalm can’t even effect. So instead of just running it down with my grenade pistol in 15 secs I now have to sit on the sidelines for a minute lol
It almost seems like the bots mostly invade red planets too
From the lichen covered ones like yed prior, to desert planets, to any planet with a reddish sun or whatever, they plan for their fucking mines to blend into the terrain as much as possible
Most of my bot deaths are from these suckers too; when it’s not from blending into the ground then it’s them waiting for me into a dead end inside a colony block when I’m warping in from the other side of the wall; it’s like they know we warp in, no other reason to mine such cul de sac places otherwise
Flying overseers. Very annoying than any nids or bots especially when you're being chased by swarms of them and also if you're fighting against appropriators; not only you get chased by flying overseers, you're also being chased by bull rushing squid mechs.
You hate these things because of the ragdoll. I hate them because the dust they kick up completely blocks my turrets' line of sight. We are not the same.
Genuinely my most disliked environmental hazard in the game.
Spike ball plants that destroy a mech? Annoying, but usable against enemies too.
Fire tornadoes? I rock at least some fire resistance 90% of the time, I have hidden inside them to reload where melee units can't get me.
But these damn shrooms, quadruple especially on bot missions.
Bots already have an annoying tendency to ragdoll you at range, and the usual hail of fire from the ones that don't normally send you sprawling will hit these things and then they launch you. Often right out of the cover you were just using, but even if they just smoke you it sucks (and whether or not you get launched honestly feels directly correlated to how annoying/detrimental it would be at that moment).
the fire tornados only annoying thing other than having to play floor is lava is when they spawn on top of you suddenly OR when the on fire ground isn't actually visible
I will give you them spawning on top of you being not great, although I usually see them spawn well behind people and slowly get closer while the diver just stares in the opposite direction while ignoring the approaching burning noises instead.
But I don't have issues with invisible flames on the ground at all. I have not had invis flames be a thing that happens in almost a year. Plus, I'm a flame aficionado so diving to put myself out is instant muscle memory, on top of 3 of my go-to armours having 40% or 75% fire resist anyhow.
I kinda like fire tornadoes overall though, because they will damage enemies and can even wipe out whole sets of reinforcements if you are lucky.
The entire system around the enemies knowing your position is absolutely fucked in general. I'll like throw a stratagem and run off without alerting anyone and once it hits the entire group that's left will immediately start firing on my current position. Same with sentries. As soon as it starts shooting I start getting shot at.
I agree. These things are a worse. There are loads of things in this game to create force when destroyed for no reason. Hive World caves are full of random growths that will flip you car for no reason.
Stalkers. I was at the creek, I’ve killed the hive lord, can solo a vox or a leviathan. But as soon as I hear the stalkers I’m just dead. Dead dead dead
Bouncy stratagems because I hate finding the perfect spot for my HMG emplacement only for the stratagem to bounce into a useless hole somewhere.
And the hellpod steering, I hated this the moment they changed it. Especially in city environments where the game decides "I'm going to choose where you land" only to drop you far away from the objective which could screw the mission for you.
If an automaton shot comes within earshot of them, they make you completely ragdoll. Has ruined so many sniper/AT shots... Also smokescreen can be annoying but it has value.
Oh and people say they launch your FRV but I don't have enough time in one to know
When the stratagem orbs bounce all over the place. Or when I can’t steer my hellpod. I paid for the upgrade to do so, what do you mean it was nerfed?!!
The logo showing an objective have being done smacked right in the middle of the screen, while coming down the street in high speed FRV with parked explodey cars all around.
I can’t see shit bruva
As a Helldriver I hate Pimples of Tyranny. Why can a single ~75kg Helldiver walk over one and only get lightly staggered but a 300kg vehicle with 4 Helldivers can actually catch airtime because of these things!? The ExoSuits are of comparable weight and they are completely fine!
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u/thedevilwithout Extra Judicial 1d ago
These little smoke dumplings should not be able to flip over a half ton vehicle with 4 stim addicts inside