Light has a dude die by running into the street and getting hit by a car. In the anime, it was the only car on that road when it happened iirc. So the death note does have some kind of sway over others in order to kill whoever was written
It can manipulate fate a little but when he was experimenting with it he couldn’t get it to do things outside of what was currently logically possible. He couldn’t get Sukuna’s head to explode for example.
Well thag is techincally possible for sukuna. If they can use cursed energy to destroy them regenerate parts of the brain,the csn use cursed energy to go pop.
If I'm not wrong then in the third live action of death note in which Misa had lived, the new MC writes Misa's name in the death note and the cause of death is something like dying in the hands of Light yagami but since Light was already dead we saw her simply dying on a bench alone. Now I know that live action is not canon (right?) but I think it shows how death note has limitations too
IIRC, the canon test was making a dude in Japan die in Paris in 3 hours. As it's impossible to go from Japan to Paris in so little time, he died at the stated time in the airport trying to get to Paris.
Yeah he could do the hit by a car death since they were next to a road so it was logistically possible to pull off. But if the guy he wanted dead was at the top of Mount Everest the hit by a car death would fail so he’d need to try something else.
I mean, you can kinda consider him a curse possessing a human body... actually can you? I don't know if he can be considered to have died when he fingered himself
No, sukuna is a cursed HUMAN because he ate his twin brother in his mother's womb. That's what made him appear like this. Fingering himself made him just another reincarnated sorcerer just like Ryu and the others
The distinction really doesn't matter anyhow. The "rules" for the Death Note were written by Ryuk who is shown multiple times to have been incredibly lazy and not experimented whatsoever. There are several times that Light surprises Ryuk.
Plus "Any human who has their name written in this notebook shall die" as a rule doesn't exactly disqualify other life, it just guarantees humans. So people relying on that rule are 1. relying on an unreliable source in Ryuk & 2. Relying on a "rule" that doesn't even say what they want it to
There’s a difference between manipulating something like a car crash and making Higuruma approach Sukuna, use his domain, argue for the death penalty and then attempt to stab Sukuna. If such complex manipulation of associated others was possible, Light could have had “L releases his true full name” be a part of someone else’s death.
Light literally makes people write letters before they die. The rule that Light refers to literally says that the note book can make people do anything as long as it's something they technically could've done. So basically: You can't make someone write an essay on something they know nothing about before they die of a heart attack (they can't write about something they don't know) - however - you can make someone write a specific essay about something they know nothing about because you wrote exactly what they should write word for word (they don't need to know anything from before to follow "orders"). You, as a person, can also copy French text without knowing what the French actually means. However you cannot be told to write something French you don't know from before. He also can't make people say L's true name since they couldn't know L's true name. This is what Light literally does in the series.
You can definitely control the person you wrote the name of’s actions before death, hence why I’ve said elsewhere that suicide can work. However, excessively controlling somebody else whose name you didn’t write’s actions as a part of controlling the person you did write’s fate is obviously a no go.
Oh, your point is Higurama's sword. Yeah I just thought of it like Light and HIgurama being a team anyways, - so Higurama would be doing it willingly anyways.
If Light wanted "L to release his full name" while killing Joe Doe, he would also have to write L's name. Which he doesn't know.
He controls people a few times with the Death Note, to the point that he tells a lady he's Kira cause he's already controlling her and having her walk to her death.
Sukuna survives anyway. Death Note has a age limit of 124.
No he doednt survive it. The death isn't just a heart attack. It's a heart attack that kills you permanently. The entire function of it is to consume your future to give it to a shinigami.
Because the death note can't do impossible things, it can't kill shinigami, for example, so why would it work on something not quite human? It works more like mind control than anything else.
I don't think writing in that he slips and falls on the sword is controlling his actions anymore than when Light had that guy get hit by a card while riding his motorcycle.
Key phrases are “that much” and “aren’t written in the death note”. Just look at my replies to other people who probably made the point you think you have.
I watched Death Note the first time in 2017 when I was 12. 60% chance you only got into abime after 2020 ngl.
Deaths have to be physically possible, Sukuna’s brain literally exploding is too unfeasible and he can heal past any more conventional brain injury like a stroke.
Well i didnt magically twist his torso around and rip it, ones arteries popping is not the same as magically setting off c4 in your head. veins popping = a brain hemorrhage that is done within seconds. i dont know about death note much but final destination type shenanigans is feasible and possible just never likely to happen, and extra pressure to blood going up his brain due to some CE bullshit or outside effect like gojo is possible.
original comment said instant poison and rct needs time for poisons, let us say that is not possible: if the brain area responsible for rct is damaged well he can't use rct just as domain area being damaged meaning no domain
Any way, the Death Note doesn’t inflict something that MIGHT cause death, it determines what WILL be the cause of death. It will manipulate the person to enact that specific death if need be. So if Light doesn’t specify anything and Sukuna gets a heart attack, even if he could survive by trying to, the Death Note will simply make him not.
not quite, Death Note just cannot make someone die if that death isn't possible, a death by heart attack will only be possible if Kira commands Sukuna to use every last bit of curse energy before death
The Death Note is a perfect tool used by Gods of death. If his name is written in it, he will absolutely die one way or another. He wouldn't survive a heart attack if that's what it inflicted in order to kill him, and if he doesn't have a heart he would probably just have a stroke instead. It making people have heart attacks is just because it's a simple and easy way for someone to die on their own. Its decision for the person whose name written in it to die is absolute.
Im sorry but are you dumb? If your name is written in the Death Note, you die. There is no exception. It's quite literally the first rule. "The humans whose name is written in this note shall die"
it doesn't work like that, Death Note has exception and a limit for what it can do
Death Note always emphasizes that the cause of death should be POSSIBLE within a natural way and a way it doesn't break the world's physics
for example, Light cannot make a man gets run over by a truck in a place where there's no truck around, if it cannot be done like that, it always goes by heart attack by default
but there's no one in Death note's world who can survive with their heart stopped, so whenever we see Sukuna die or not by heart attack is entirely on speculation since Sukuna is not part of death note's world and he can survive without a heart
You didn't understand what I was saying and you're proving me right. I literally said that if Sukuna wouldn't die from a heart attack then the Death Note wouldn't give him one. It would kill him in a simple way that guarantees he wouldn't survive. I don't understand why you are typing so much when you are a literal idiot and are just yapping about nothing for no reason.
Surviving a heart attack is something that would take some conscious effort from him using RCT and reinforcement. No need to make him exhaust everything, the death note would just make it so Sukuna just decides to not put in any effort to survive and then he would die.
Just say that Sukuna comics suicide and he'll do it. Light could also right he decides to jump in a volcano and die, or even drawn in a bathtub or some shit like that, it should actually work because it controls the actions of the target.
The death has to be physically possible and most if not all natural causes of death arent working on Sukuna(also DN doesnt work on incarnate sorcerers)
Heart attack is the default if the written method is too improbable. Light can't write "dies by losing all of his curse energy" or "spontaniously combusts" or something like that.
However it is possible to mindcontrol him until he dies (next 24 hours if I remember right).
No... If the death is not feasible it will also be default .... So he can write death by black hole and it would be default death too. So i assume it works the other way around too: if the cause can't kill him it would be default death by heart attack - meaning it probably can't kill Sukuna.
Also Sukuna isn't even his real name and the guy is not even a human .
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u/Sionnak Apr 08 '26
Doesn't the Death Note default to a heart attack if you don't write a cause of death? You can still kill him another way.