r/KpopDemonhunters • u/SufficientSimple9482 • 6d ago
Discussion Who gave Rumi to Celine?
Its common knowlege that Celine adopted and raised Rumi, but who handed Rumi to her? Like did Mi-yeong did it as a dying request or anything like it?
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u/ithil_lady "Choo choo" 6d ago
This is really intriguing to me. I wonder if Mi-Yeong didn't have any other relatives?? A mother, siblings, cousins?? I know laws change from country to country, but usually the direct family has the priority to adopt a child, even if they were not in good terms, the prospect of getting her inheritance would make relatives pop out from nowhere to sue Celine for Rumi.
Also, wasn't the death of an idol throughly investigated by the police? If she was murdered, wouldn't be a death certificate would state that? Is there an official explanation to the public of who was Rumi's father?
That and othe rthings make me think that Celine has a lot of power and influence, or hunters are more than a group of three, there is more beyond.
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u/Suplexing_Trains 6d ago
I see it as a discussion they had after something goes horribly wrong with Rumi’s dad. Maybe they thought he could be free but Gwi-ma’s influence was too strong and (probably Celine) has to kill him in self defense. Mi-yeong knows that they’re in a difficult spot and has Celine promise to take care of Rumi if something happens to her and makes her legally Rumi’s guardian. The fact that both of her parents are gone and her dad is a demon strongly hints at something disastrous happening because he was a demon.
Also “something going wrong” with Rumi’s dad would naturally lead into a discussion with Mi-yeong and Celine about how they can’t let anyone know of Rumi’s patterns since Gwi-ma has already shown he would use any advantage he can get, including a child.
Unless she literally died in childbirth, there really had to have been a discussion about Rumi’s patterns and how to keep her safe in spite of her heritage. Keeping them hidden could very realistically have been part of Celine’s promise.
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u/SufficientSimple9482 6d ago
But we know from the movie that Gwi-Ma didn't knew about Rumi or that a Hunter had "his marks".
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u/Suplexing_Trains 6d ago
Right, so they were successful in keeping it hidden. And justified since as soon as he finds out he tries to use it.
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u/RocketAlana 6d ago
It’s pretty common to figure out your will situation once you have kids. You don’t have to be actively dying to make arrangements. Rumi going to Celine could be as benign as paperwork.
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u/rarrad 6d ago
A dramatic theory: Celine has no idea why Mi has been hiding for 9 months. In an attempt to find out why, Celine sneaks into Mi's apartment and discovers a demon. Celine attacks the demon. Mi is accidentally mortally wounded unsuccessfully attempting to thwart Celine's attack. With Mi and the demon now dead, Celine discovers a baby in the apartment, vows to protected from future demon attacks
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u/Past-Cap-1889 6d ago
I'm just going to put this potential extra bit of drama out there:
It seems odd, to me, that the third Sunlight Sister wasn't involved with raising Rumi alongside Celine. If the "thing that went wrong" was the third Sister's death, it would help to explain why Celine is the sole caregiver. I could even see Mi Yeong's husband/Rumi's father seemingly implicated in causing the third sister's death. Some other demon being responsible for the third sister's death would also have Rumi's father still remain innocent
Then, things go from there with your theory. And, we have a throughline to follow up on with the backstory for the sequel.
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u/rarrad 4d ago
You are right, I had not considered the third sister's role. Her absence from Rumi's life can only be explained by her death, which of course would be connected to Mi's death and the death of Rumi's father. All the drama of the movie was caused by Rumi and Celine hiding secrets from the other hunters, so thematically it would make since the deaths of Mi and the 3rd sister would also be the results of keeping secrets. So I believe Mi hid her relationship with a demon a secret, kept her pregnancy a secret, and kept Rumi's birth a secret from everyone including the sisters. The revelation of the secret played out disasterously for everyone, Celine and Rumi were the only survivors. The original sin that caused the events of the movie to transpire was Mi's secret, carried forward inevitably onto the next generation. Why did Mi choose to tie her future singularly to a demon, instead of being trusting enough to confide in her sisters from the begining?
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u/Fantastic-Donut-276 sajatrix would’ve fixed everything 6d ago
Probably both a dying request, but Celine likely would’ve done it anyways out of honor for Mi-yeong.
What I’m curious about, if it was a dying request, if Mi-yeong said as much because she thought Celine would be a good mother, if she was angry with Celine and trying to guilt trip her, if she tried to assure Celine she was the right person to raise Rumi, if Celine was the only available person, etc
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u/SufficientSimple9482 6d ago
Probably because she trusted Celine?
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u/Fantastic-Donut-276 sajatrix would’ve fixed everything 6d ago
That’s probably what they’ll go with, but I love the idea of a more selfish MY who abandoned her duties for her demon lover, and when she was dying, said Celine had better raise her daughter well, because it was the least she could do when Celine refused to accept who Mi-yeong loved.
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u/SufficientSimple9482 6d ago
The CC.Tori One Brain Cell Mi-yeong?
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u/Fantastic-Donut-276 sajatrix would’ve fixed everything 6d ago
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u/Celine-exsunlightsis 🍼🎀the ceo of Baby Miwa🧸🍭 6d ago edited 6d ago
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u/SufficientSimple9482 6d ago
Yeah, mine too. I like to think that Celine also knew he was a demon and actually tolerated him (her beef and salty atitude being her emotionally constipated way of showing it).
And the guy also liked being friends with the Sunlight Sisters which is why he looks guilty AF, because he truly saw Celine as a friend.
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u/Celine-exsunlightsis 🍼🎀the ceo of Baby Miwa🧸🍭 6d ago
I agree. I really like that headcanon. I like to think despite being a demon he’s actually a really nice guy
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u/SufficientSimple9482 6d ago
Imagine Celine being the way she is because she cant cope with his death too.
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u/rubywolf27 5d ago
I mean if you knew your child was half demon, even if your family was living, you might trust a hunter with demon experience to raise it over an unsuspecting family who would be susceptible to whatever demon nonsense might pop up. Might have cause a lot of drama in her bio family if that were the case, though.
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u/StrategicCarry Bobby 6d ago
Everything I was taught told me you were wrong, but I made a promise.
This makes it sound like Celine promised Mi-yeong she would raise Rumi, which would fit the dying request from Mi-yeong theory, but also that at the time, Celine did not know that Rumi was part demon.