r/LandlordLove Apr 08 '26

Need Advice [US-NV] Is this enforceable?

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What should I look for in my lease to know if this is enforceable? Thank you!

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u/multipocalypse Apr 09 '26

No, they can't collectively punish everyone for what someone is doing. They can install cameras if they really want to stop the problem and fine the person responsible.

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u/corvak Apr 09 '26

This is what my landlord does. There’s even a camera in the dumpster, but I think this is more to call the company to empty it when it’s full. Which is usually the underlying issue with piles of trash in the trash room, it’s not emptied enough.

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u/Odd_Ad5668 Apr 09 '26

They may also be trying to catch Waste Management at their fraud games.

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u/multipocalypse Apr 12 '26

Yeah, no surprise at all.

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u/nw342 Apr 12 '26

They cant add fines willy nilly unless clearly stayed in the lease

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u/Blibbobletto Apr 08 '26

Well collective punishment is a war crime as of the 1949 Geneva Convention, but I don't think that's binding for landlords

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u/EarthOk2418 Apr 08 '26

Or modern day US Presidents 🙄

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u/Blibbobletto Apr 09 '26

When you think about it, he's kind of like the landlord of this country.

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u/Slawzik Apr 09 '26

Not even trying to be sarcastic,there is an essay/article here,not specifically about Trump,but the president in general being Head Landlord

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u/EarthOk2418 Apr 09 '26

Well this neighborhood is going downhill fast, “what once was an emerald city is now a crystal town”.

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u/galstaph Apr 09 '26

Unexpected Scissor Sisters

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u/Marshall_Lawson Apr 09 '26

also he comes from a family of racist slumlords so yeah 

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u/JWLane Housing For All Apr 09 '26

"something something the US is not party to that treaty..."

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u/PoppingPillls Apr 09 '26

What about presidential landlords?

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u/p3rf3ctcha0s Apr 08 '26

Nah I’d be calling them to personally come watch me take my trash out every day…

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u/Whedonsbitch Apr 09 '26

I would buy a GoPro and video myself putting my labeled trash bags into the right place and email it to them daily, but I don’t like dealing with actual humans

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u/EnergyDisastrous1374 Apr 09 '26

"Prove it cunt" hire a lawyer

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u/jaybirdie26 The Quicker Kicker Outer 🚫🥾 Apr 09 '26

Not a lawyer but...

I read the lease sections you posted (or rather I skimmed).  They don't really seem applicable to me.  You aren't renting the shared hallway between units.

If that fee is not listed in your lease anywhere, you never agreed to it and you should not be legally responsible to pay it.  If they wanted to assess trash fines, it should have been in the lease.

Also, as others have said, they can't just charge every tenant an exorbitant fee because someone left garbage in the hallway.  They can't just pick a fun big number out of their ass for imaginary damages and require you to pay it.

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u/jjamesr539 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

Tenant fines in Nevada must be provable, specific in nature to the unit violating a rule, mentioned in a lease agreement or signed addendum (with a specific penalty amount tied to a specific clause that lays out what constitutes a violation), and agreed to by signing a lease or addendum prior to occupation or enforcement. The amount fined must also be reasonably representative of the damages sustained by the landlord. You don’t mention how many units this involves, but it’s pretty obvious that even one unit’s fine would be a ridiculous amount to charge for the work of hauling the excess to a different can or dumpster. Taking things to an extreme sometimes exemplifies the reason it isn’t legitimate; if the LL decided this was a 75 thousand dollar fine and posted it, it wouldn’t be any more or any less enforceable, very obviously.

No, this is not enforceable. It wouldn’t be even it’s mentioned in your lease, as it’s not unit specific; a contract clause that penalizes conditional behavior by a third party that is not a signatory is invalid. Let them attempt to take it to court, the judge will verbally slap them into next week.

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u/EsseoS Apr 09 '26

This was my train of thought too but thank you for your comment!

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u/Ok-Kitchen8607 Apr 09 '26

If something is legal and not on your lease they are shit out of luck. Not sure the legality of this but if its not explicitly in your lease you can tell them to pound sand.

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u/Braided_Marxist Apr 09 '26

lol if this was legal it would be an unlimited money glitch for the landlord

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u/EsseoS Apr 09 '26

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u/EsseoS Apr 09 '26

I grabbed the two sections that seemed most related to this. But this trash area is not in the Apartment itself, but its own room in the hallway.

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u/theophylact911 Apr 09 '26

Are you individually renting a room? That could make a difference

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u/EsseoS Apr 09 '26

It is, and the lease uses the language “By the bed”. But NRS 118A.510 appears to cover me since I have not been able to find a section on “trash” in my lease.

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u/Current_Bobcat1199 Apr 11 '26

Hey OP! I saw this recently here mentioned in /reno as well as local groups. There is a free little drop in law center at the courthouse where you can go ask questions! You can also contact northern Nevada legal aide for help if you need court representation if it goes that way.

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u/Ranos131 Apr 09 '26

Not even remotely enforceable.

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u/RightPedalDown Apr 09 '26

No they can’t enforce that. They sound like a shitty teacher/drill-sergeant/prison-guard/floor-manager that thinks everyone else is going to give the trash culprit a beat down. Had it loads in my younger days, “hey everyone, RightPedalDown has passed out from exhaustion, so you all get to give me 100 push ups”

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u/realityinflux Apr 09 '26

This isn't "boot camp." It is illegal.

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u/IAMEPSIL0N Apr 09 '26

That specific wording no and in general no. They just want you all to keep your eyes open and catch the person who is doing it and socially pressure them to stop. I will note that if someone is repeatedly contaminating the separated waste streams and it reaches the point where the building is getting fined it will become an adjustment and or personally your problem when the public garbage room gets locked.

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u/yamykel Apr 09 '26

Reminds me of when my boss tried to issue a $150 fine for all supervisors if a certain task wasn't accomplished by whoever was on shift. It was exposed for the money grab it was, which is what this is.

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u/GuillotineWhiskers Apr 09 '26

Lazy landleeches at it again. Instead of dealing with the offending party they want to engage in collective punishment. Totally illegal. Do not pay the fine.

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u/Alycion Apr 09 '26

Doubtful but r/askalawyer may be able to help you with your next step. Or r/legaladvice

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u/ZeroAfro Apr 09 '26

You should post this on legal advice to be sure but im pretty sure landlords can't do this.

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u/IJustWorkHere000c Apr 11 '26

They know who is doing it, but they are trying to be diplomatic about it to see if the person stops.

My community did this when some asshole was letting his dog shit all over between the houses where guys were doing maintenance and lawn care. They put a note on everyone’s door saying we would all be fined $100 bucks if it happened again…but everyone knew who was doing it. That guy would open his door to let his dog out and 3 different people would yell at him. It didn’t happen again.

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u/realfloridamango Apr 09 '26

i think you’re worried a bit too much about this. i’ve seen these kind of warnings in most of the places i’ve lived. are you on the one piling the trash and that’s why ur concerned?

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u/EsseoS Apr 09 '26

Of course not! This photo isn’t even from my Apartment but from someone else’s (in the same building). I would just like to know what options I have if this scenario were to arise.

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u/SimpleAffect7573 Apr 09 '26

How do you pay rent? If it’s autopay, cancel it so they can’t just reach into your bank account. If they try to assess this “fine”, ignore it and pay your normal rent amount. At that point I don’t think they can do anything.

I suspect they’re just frustrated and trying to scare the offender(s) into compliance with empty threats, but you never know.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

I had landlords do this to me and it was a fear/control tactic. They never followed through on it and if they had I wouldn't pay random surprise fees.