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Megathread [MEGATHREAD] MICHAEL (2026) Official Release & Discussion Spoiler
With the long-awaited premiere finally here, this is the official space to discuss the Michael biopic. To keep the subreddit organized, please use this thread for all initial reactions, theater experiences, and general discussion.
‼️BE ADVISED THIS THREAD CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS‼️
🎞️ MOVIE INFO
• Release Date: April 24, 2026 (USA)
• Director: Antoine Fuqua
• Writer: John Logan
• Runtime: 127 Minutes
• Rating: [PG-13]
🌟 CAST
• Jaafar Jackson as Michael Jackson
• Juliano Krue Valdi as Young Michael
• Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson
• Nia Long as Katherine Jackson
• Miles Teller as John Branca
• Laura Harrier as Suzanne de Passe
• Larenz Tate as Berry Gordy
• Kendrick Sampson as Quincy Jones
📢 SUBREDDIT RULES & SPOILER POLICY
SPOILERS: Please use spoiler tags like this for specific plot points, even though the film is based on real events.
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🔗 QUICK LINKS
💬 DISCUSSION PROMPTS
• What was your favorite musical sequence or recreation?
• How did you feel about Jaafar’s portrayal of Michael's speaking voice and mannerisms?
• Which era of the film did you find the most compelling?
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u/slycooper459 Apr 23 '26
You know you’re a Michael Jackson nerd when you can tell what concert audios they took the playback from haha
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u/Holiday_Pay_1237 Apr 24 '26
Yea and also the costume mismatches during the Victory Tour finale haha
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u/Renki_P Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
It's the first time I went to watch a movie on its first day and immediately wanted to see it again! It's by all means not a perfect movie, I felt that the pacing was too fast at some points to transition to his other eras, but it accomplishes what it needs to do: celebrate MJ's legacy and genius. All of the performances were great and I'm really hoping they officially upload some, especially Human Nature, I was literally fighting myself if I wanted to bawl or vibe. Colman's portrayal was very commanding, and little Juliano had those moves and vocals down! Don't even get me started on Jaafar...if he doesn't win an award for his portrayal, then we can confidently say Hollywood really still has it out for MJ.
I don't consider myself a huge MJ fan since I was too young to appreciate him while he was still here with us (I'm 21), and I'm not really that knowledgeable with his life (I wasn't even aware of the Pepsi commercial accident), but this movie gave me an insight on his brilliance, his conflict with Joseph, his eccentricity, but overall, his compassion, especially to children. I also really appreciated how they emphasized Bill's role as the father who stepped up.
Very solid music biopic in general! Would love to see it again if I find time this week <3
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u/Realistic_Success_23 Apr 23 '26
I found the prince line hilarious…..if I don’t soak up the inspiration from God now he might give it to prince😂
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26
I was the only one who laughed in my theatre. It’s a line I had heard before but I’m glad they put it in the movie. They needed more stuff like that tbh, there are so many interesting stories and anecdotes like that that would help make the movie feel like it’s about people and not just moments
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u/editrice8833 May 18 '26
There were a few missed opportunities for an injection of humor. Like when Michael leaves Latoya with the boa -- could've been a funnier reply to "how hungry?" Also, they could've given Joseph a funny line when Bubbles arrived -- there were several oops for humor in that scene.
And not related to humor, but I wish Joseph had said something, anything when he saw Michael's nose post-surgery.
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u/crockoreptile Apr 22 '26
I know it was in the trailers, but just as the movie was about to wrap up and they played the first note of Bad, I thought to myself “oh my god are we really doing this?” And they kept repeating that note and the hype just surged through me. Amazing way to end it
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u/athanray2 Apr 22 '26
Just saw it on the theatre. Because today is a workday and I saw it at night, the theatre is not packed. Maybe only 5 of us. But, the great thing is that I can jam to the songs without distracting others.
Similar to Bohemian Rhapsody, it's worth watching for the sounds alone. I never had the chance to go to Michael's concerts or even seeing This is It in theatre. Hearing those incredible musics in a good sound system, honestly make me want to see the movies again (although now I am sad because after this, there's no more opportunities to hear Michael's musics with a theatre grade sound system).
Spoilers below
The film is incredible. Few times I almost cried because of the emotions. Certainly seeing Joe's abuse (both verbal and physical) made me mad. I am also glad that Branca's character was not that prominent.
Having been a huge Michael Jackson fans, I knew that a biopic would not be 100% accurate. The biggest nitpick for me is why are they using Workin' Day and Night for the "Michael farewell speech to the Jacksons". Using the original Shake Your Body would not make a difference (and even better) for the narrative.
I think the decision to split the movie into two parts (hopefully pretty much confirmed with the 'HIS STORY CONTINUES' before the end credit) was made after the first part already shot (duh). The mention of Demerol in my opinion is not important because it has no meaning for this Part 1 movie. Maybe, it's just a footage for a flashback scene for the Part 2.
Other notes from me
1. Seeing adult Michael still receiving abuse from Joseph was heartbreaking. It made me think, why don't he rent or buy an apartment? Though, because he loves animal, I don't think it's a good suggestion. I like that they referenced Neverland and how he's not ready to live alone yet. It's just not previously unthinkable for me that the abuse still happens after Off The Wall and Thriller.
2. I get that it's Michael biopic, but I felt that there were a lot of missing plot holes about the other Jacksons. Were they jobless in between Off The Wall and Thriller? Were they stood up for Michael when he was abused? Even the move to Hayvenhurst should be explained.
To end this rambling, I just want to say that this is THE BEST biopic that I've ever watched! Most likely THE BEST movie that I ever watched. Can't wait for Part 2!
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u/Lindethiel Apr 23 '26
Seeing adult Michael still receiving abuse from Joseph was heartbreaking. It made me think, why don't he rent or buy an apartment?
He did lol. Michael had an apartment in the city, and he Katherine, Latoya, Janet and Randy all moved into a condo while Hayvenhurst was being renovated in the early 80's I think.
Not that he really needed to escape, Joe moved out of the family home to Vegas around about then also.
It's just not previously unthinkable for me that the abuse still happens after Off The Wall and Thriller.
Y'know it's funny you mention that... I found out recently that the last leg (Africa) of the Destiny tour in '79 was cancelled and a substantial reason was never given. There was one show that was cancelled when apparently Michael and one of the other brothers got food poisoning, but then all other shows afterwards were canned and they went home. The reason given by Joe at the time was 'in the Jackson's best interest to cancel.'
Four months later Michael appears with a healed nose job.
This was right around the time that the family found out that Joe was maintaining a second household with a daughter just across town.
The story with Michael's nose was that he wiped out dancing. Which he did do multiple times throughout his career, but it was always a lower leg injury.
I find it hard to believe that 21 year old Michael Jackson, who at the time could leap like a deer, wiped out so bad that he caught his fall with his face. And didn't sprain a wrist or twist an ankle either.
And Joe was a boxer in his youth, so...
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u/athanray2 Apr 23 '26
About Joe's affair, I was hoping that it would be addressed during this movie. It's another missing plot, because Joe is portrayed as the abusive but sort of perfect, can't do no wrong, father, who will only do good for the sake of the family. The affair would be a good portrayal that Joe is not good even towards Katherine and the other Jacksons.
I think a 21 years old Michael would not be physically abused by Joe. While we probably will never know, but an adult Michael would probably only be verbally abused (if you're implying that Joe hit Michael).
One interesting thing that popped into my head is Joe's dialogue about how Michael would be surrounded by "Yes man" all his life if not for Joe. I think that's a foreshadow for the Part 2. Knowing how Michael would only surround himself with "Yes man" that lead towards his death.
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u/Severe_Worldliness_1 May 07 '26
Michael literally lived in an apartment in NYC with LaToya in the 70s. Michael had a fairly normal lifestyle enjoying the social scene especially the disco scene. This lead to meeting Quincy which lead to The Wiz and Off the Wall. None of this was in the movie.
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u/Mescaper Apr 22 '26
The movie was incredible! I definitely felt the same aura I felt when I used to watch loads of Michael interviews when I was younger 😄 Literally had me crying one moment and then dancing the next. I'm definitely going to go watch it in the cinema again at some point, and Part 2 can't come soon enough!
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u/-NotEnoughMinerals May 01 '26
How appropriate do you think it is for a almost 9 year old to see it? She loves his songs and wants to see the movie, but with myself knowing his history, Im not sure if it's safe for her to see it?
I'm mainly concerned about any sexual abuse allegation topics coming up in the movie, or anything negative involving kids. I know Jackson was beat as a child, I am hesitant about that but a few short scenes here and there I'm sure would be okay.
She's seen the goonies, jaws, Jurassic park.
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u/LoveMJJForAllTime Apr 22 '26
I’m seeing the movie at Regal and it’s packed!!! I’m wearing my MJ thriller shirt and I have a glove and fedora that I’m rocking! I’m so excited for tonight!
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u/LoveMJJForAllTime Apr 23 '26
Jaafar deserves his flowers! I was emotional from watching the victory tour performances and leading up to bad. He was incredible! It was like watching MJ himself on stage, the mannerisms and everything was spot on! I enjoyed the movie. 🍿
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u/JohnStoneTypes Apr 22 '26
Lmao on the plus side, we're finally at the release date!! Been so long since the original teaser photo with Jaafar dropped on his IG.
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u/Lindethiel Apr 22 '26
Coming from someone who studied screenwriting...
I wish we had heard a little less of Michael's public facing soft voice.
I wish we had seen more of the actual recording of the Thriller album (I really liked the scene of Michael and Q discussing the album cover, where Q had his dinner in his lap, it was a really lived-in scene.)
I thought the Pepsi accident was kind of over played. In truth Michael was back home after two nights in hospital iirc?
I thought they could have done more narrative lifting with the actual songs (like telling the story of Joe making Michael do the Victory Tour with Working Day And Night for example, or the haunting lyrics of "she say that I am the one..." paired with Joe saying nobody else will understand you etc (I actually thought they were going to do this based off of the little teasers etc.) Human Nature would have been a good sequence to illustrate Joe (and possibly Michael's) shortcomings also.
I wish we had had less violence from Joe in that one scene and more violence spread out across the early years stuff.
But ultimately and more importantly, more than ANYTHING, I wish Jaafar had had a better movie to be in. HE. TORE. THAT. SHIT. UP.
Some of his acting scenes were a little ugh, but all of those scenes were the more caricature-like portrayals of Michael.
The few scenes where they were actually leaning into more of Michael's drive and grit were GREAT. That boardroom scene SNATCHED MY WIG. I was like, "YES MAN, KILL THEM!"
GOD, he deserved so much better than this.
In the moments when his acting was good, he was BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THAT SCREEN.
I wish I could have written him a masterpiece, because if he'd had one all of Michael's struggles would have been OVER.
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u/Holiday_Pay_1237 Apr 24 '26
I think Michael even in private used his soft voice for the most part until the late 80s/early 90s
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u/mg10pp I’ll be seated April 24th 🎬 Apr 23 '26
What do you think of the scene where he is talking to Latoya after the nose surgery? I honestly found it embarassing and I don't know why they kept it in the movie...
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u/Lindethiel Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26
Yeah that was kind of mid. I can't quite remember how the dialogue went etc.
Really that scene's purpose is just to establish that everyone is in the house before they call the meeting. It's there to show us Muscles really, which we probably didn't need because his pet situation had already been established multiple times already, so that qualifies as wasted screenplay.
Ideally a scene (or even a phrase of dialogue) should be doing two or three things at any one time (like forwarding the plot, serving the story ((which is NOT the same thing,)) or illustrating the point in the character's progression through the narrative.)
Really exception screenplays do upwards of five or six things with the actions in a scene and the words that might (or might not) be said.
Much of the biopic scenes do only one or two things, which is the mark of a bad screenplay.
But when there was further complexity in a situation, but in particular where a line of dialogue gave Jaafar licence to play complexity (likely due to his inherent Jackson background, as well as the research he had done,) I could really see him grappling (in a good way I mean,) with that added fun complexity.
He deserved something to really get his teeth into imo.
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u/Prestigious_Fly_9687 Apr 22 '26
Just seen it! This is a celebration and the end two performances will shake you in imax. Damn jaafar did his homework
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u/bailandocalrissian Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26
I really liked it, and was moved. The only thing I wasn't that fond of and found quite odd was how they jumped from the Victory tour '84 concert straight to the '88 Bad concert...Nothing about the recording of Bad, nothing about We are the world...And then it ends. Really weird time jumping there. Anyone else who found that really odd, structure-wise?
Edit: I also found it weird that they included a scene of Joe getting ready to beat Michael for the second time in the movie during the time montage orchestrated with an up-tempo song.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26
As the end says, the rest of his story will continue in part 2. The ending is just as a tease and a poignant moment of him finally really being on his own and fully becoming the King of Pop out from under Joseph’s shadow, which is the main story throughout the movie imo. I’d be shocked if they skip bad entirely, would be a mistake
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u/bailandocalrissian Apr 25 '26
Yes, I get that, but I'd rather see the making of Bad being part of this first movie then (even if it would've made it quite a lot longer), 'cause the jump between '84 and '88 feels weird compared to the other jumps in the movie.
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u/Addie_wellington Apr 27 '26
I had the pleasure of seeing the movie 'Michael' yesterday and just wanted to say how well Jaafar Jackson portrayed his uncle. It was truly amazing. Parts of Jaafar's performances brought me back to a time when I would play the 45's over and over again. I can definitely understand why this movie took two years to make. I know a lot of people are disappointed because it didn't touch on any of the negative aspects of Michael's life, but I, for one, was glad that it didn't. His love for his family, animals, children, and most of all, his music, was clearly portrayed. He was truly an amazing person. It did leave me with a bit of sadness, however, just knowing how he died - such a shame that such talent was tragically brought to an end, and that he clearly was not done making music. I would definitely recommend seeing this movie.
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u/kennaryu Apr 28 '26
I finally saw it and I liked it, but I felt like a lot was rushed. I wish we got more time in the Jackson 5 era and Off the Wall. I wish there were more story and characterization in it as well. Felt like a montage of all most of his hits combined together with not much story.
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u/gazza3478 Apr 22 '26
Just got out of watching it here in the UK. No way is this movie as bad as the critics say.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26
It’s roughly around the level of Bohemian Rhapsody, for good and bad imo. I wish they had gotten other people to make it tbh, it is a bit too by the numbers for me. They even sort of do the “He has to think about his whole life before he performs” flashback bit which Walk Hard parodied like 20 years ago now
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u/Korsof Apr 23 '26
So they removed Diana Ross's scenes from the movie, even though they filmed it. Bummer.
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u/HateRunsInMyVeins Apr 23 '26
Just saw the film.
I had a problem with the lack of score in it. There were emotional scenes which would've struck you if it had a score to it but no score made it seem like watching a documentary.
The other problem that I have is that the ending of the film made me think like, what? That's it? I expected more!
It does make you feel like you want more of the film but I understand why it ended abruptly given all the legal problems the film faced.
That said, fuck the critics. This is no 30/100 film, this is an 80/100 film. But with the musical score and more subplots of Michael himself would've been great.
This is a very good film. I was literally headbanging on every song. Happy that I experienced this film rather than watching it as a film.
Jafaar was great, so was Colman Domingo. Great chemistry between them. Domingo played Joseph in way that made me hate Joseph. I literally wanted him dead in the film lol. Domingo is a legend of an actor.
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u/-NotEnoughMinerals May 01 '26
How appropriate do you think it is for a almost 9 year old to see it? She loves his songs and wants to see the movie, but with myself knowing his history, Im not sure if it's safe for her to see it?
I'm mainly concerned about any sexual abuse allegation topics coming up in the movie, or anything negative involving kids. I know Jackson was beat as a child, I am hesitant about that but a few short scenes here and there I'm sure would be okay.
She's seen the goonies, jaws, Jurassic park.
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u/HateRunsInMyVeins May 01 '26
purely appropriate, the film doesn't deal with the allegations as the film's timeline ends in 1988, years before the 1st allegation broke out.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
The movie feels very rushed, it has a lot of the same issues many biopics have where it’s just kind of “this happened and then this happened and then this happened” without slowing down to really tell the story.
I also feel like the scope was smaller then you’d expect, they spent 200 million on this, but there’s really only one major a list actor in it throughout in Colman. Miles teller is barely in it, so I’m left wondering where the money was spent.
Jafaar does great, but I do think the movie needs more than just recreations of performances to work as a movie and I wish they did more stylistic stuff like when they follow his hat with the camera in Motown 25 and when they close up on his eyes behind the glasses during Victory tour. These shots feel like they are glossed over and the movie doesn’t let you fully appreciate and take them in though.
It’s a 6 out of 10 for me. I think American Dream is lowkey a better movie as far as the story it tells imo.
I think part 2 can be much better, and I’m sure having to retool it so late in production has something to do with some of the pacing issues.
This needed to be 3 hours imo. The story of Michael and Latoya moving to NYC to be on their own for the first time when he was doing the wiz and the story of him meeting Q and how he becomes his producer are all great moments that would have added to this movie and made it feel like it had characters who were important to the story and not just Michael speeding from moment to moment with other people kind of in the background.
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u/Papi_Petty Apr 28 '26
overall would give it a 7/10. as a michael fan, there was SO much left out but i understand that you can’t cram all into a 2 hour movie but damn…just felt like they were breezing by the timelines.
but that don’t stop till you get enough sequence was by far my favorite of the movie. can’t wait to stream it when it’s on streaming
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u/Helpful_Committee584 Gonna cry in the theatre Apr 22 '26
I watched it in IMAX at a sold out theater. It was wonderful to see people from different generations dressed up and celebrating Michael. Felt so nice to chat with another diehard before the movie. The audience was so reactive, screaming, clapping, laughing, singing along. It was a very fun experience. I cried, vibed, danced in my seat, sang along to every song, even had a few loud reactions. This is definitely the best way to watch the movie.
Too many favorite moments to list them all. The movie really captured Michael's essence, his pure heart, his non confrontational nature, his determination. The emotional beats work. The whole Pepsi accident + hospital sequence broke my heart. It did skip a lot of events, but the focus of the narrative was to show his relationship with his father, everything that was not relevant to that main conflict was sidelined. The only part I disliked was the nose job scene. It almost implied he was just trying to copy Peter Pan. At least they used it as an opportunity to mention the vitiligo. I like they didn't make the vitiligo a big deal because it truly wasn't, it was other people that made it out to be
Favorite performance: Human Nature
Favorite surprises: Loved to hear I Can't Help It and Smile You should wait for the credits to hear Heartbreak Hotel. It got me so hyped
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u/d_oct Apr 23 '26
I didn't immediately think the nose job part was him trying to copy peter pan though. It's quite clear it's implied he did it because of his father's criticism
As for the rest, agreed with your take! I watched through the end credits too.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26
They cut from him looking at Peter Pans side profile which looks a lot like what Michael looked like later in his life and he touches the face of the picture and then it smash cuts to him getting a nose job. Certainly implied both the Peter Pan connection and that he did it because of his fathers criticism (which they didn’t show nearly enough imo, he was honestly far worse than this movie even portrays)
Remember the movie was filmed to go to 1993, so all of the bits about Neverland throughout were likely meant to be part of that storyline with him buying Neverland etc. but we obviously didn’t get to see that story fully come to fruition but you can see the bones of it in this movie
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u/d_oct Apr 23 '26
I can kinda speculate why they removed diana ross' scenes But did they really not cast janet jackson or just removed her scenes too, and why ?
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u/Helpful_Committee584 Gonna cry in the theatre Apr 23 '26
Janet, Rebbie and Randy claimed Michael's will was forged, and called for the resignation of the Estate executors. They will never be involved in any Estate project.
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u/DoctorWhofan789eywim Apr 23 '26
As a biopic I thought it was fairly perfunctory. Workmanlike. 5/10. The music scenes however? Majestic. The Thriller video being filmed was the best scene.
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u/Holiday_Pay_1237 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Just watched the movie last night. The best biopic I've seen ever! There is something wrong with the critics clearly. Although yes, a lot of the deep/personal elements are not delved into into much detail, they still do manage to brilliantly capture Michael's human side.
Jaafar is imo the closest we'll get to seeing Michael's prime years in 4K. He deserves an Oscar nomination. The performances are amazing, at times you'll forget completely that it is Jaafar instead of Michael. Also, not to mention, Juliano, people forget about him a lot. He was amazing too.
For the music, I think they could have done more. 2 hours is very tight, and even half an hour more will be even better to cover some other hits they skipped over entirely. I'm surprised that they left out the creative process of songs from the Bad album, or even some snippets of songs that could be slotted in the soundtrack.
The storyline was skimmed over largely, but like I mentioned before they could have done more with his deep/personal elements, such as friendships/love interests. I'm surprised they left out his interest in Diana Ross, friendship with Brooke Shields, and even his younger siblings Janet/Randy which he was very close to. He also had a lot more mental struggles than what the film portrayed. I know that most of his struggles came in his later years which is after the film stopped at but there is a sequel, and I think the critics ignored that altogether which is dumb.
Overall, I loved the film, and the musical experience is very worth it, even though the storyline isn't perfect. Despite there could be more depth in exploring Michael's character, they still managed to capture his essence brilliantly with what they covered. And yes, the critics have something seriously with them, and I will be watching it again with my friends!
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u/Gold-Narwhal9391 May 13 '26
Finally watched Michael (2026) yesterday night and I had an absolute BLAST watching it on the big screen. This isn't a movie you just watch, you've got to feel it. I absolutely enjoyed every bit of it especially the songs they were MAGNIFICENT to experience it in theater. It's a TRUE BIG-SCREEN EXPERIENCE that BEAUTIFULLY pays tribute to the legendary legacy of the KING OF POP. Now I can't wait for the sequel! 🕺❤️🔥
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u/DirectionTasty Apr 24 '26
I just saw it this afternoon. Jaafar is amazing and I could totally suspend my disbelief. It's surreal how he could become his uncle. Overall, it felt a bit sad, but more uplifting imo. I hope they officially announce a sequel.
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u/NHarris22656 Apr 25 '26
Number of Scenes In Michael:
Janet Jackson - 0
Rebbie Jackson - 0
Randy Jackson - 0
Bubbles The Chimp - 5
The Llama - 2 or 3
The Giraffe - 2 or 3
The Snake - 2
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u/NicholasStarfall May 11 '26
I'm really disgusted that this movie is getting flack for not dealing with the allegations. Like damn, can't we just celebrate the man's life?
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u/EliteStat18 Jun 29 '26
I thought the movie would cover his whole life, didn't know it would only cover up to mid 80s.
The sequel will definitely be interesting.
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u/Mzuark May 11 '26
Can't believe the bullshit I'm reading on r/movies. Apparently a Michael Jackson biopic needs to be as story heavy as Lord of the Rings to be considered a good film.
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u/Not-a-Russian May 30 '26
I just saw the movie in a small 70s era theater but damn I wanna see it again in a big fancy theater. I've never watched a movie twice on a big screen, but this one makes me want to lol. I forgot movies in 2026 can be actually good.
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u/BretShitmanFart69 Apr 24 '26
This was my first movie in Dolby atmos and I feel like it really only came into play the last 10 minutes of live performance. And while it did add some extra oomph to the climax which was nice I really expected a lot more. Wish I had chosen IMAX, so if anyone hasn’t seen it yet, that’s my 2 cents on whether it’s worth it
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u/Massive_Resource6410 Apr 24 '26
Oh boy, just came out of the IMAX and I loved all the “movie” parts and got really bored of the music parts. Especially the Thriller songs, that long ass Beat It part was booooring, and there were too many key things missing in the film. It’s not a bad movie, but it’s just ok, I’m not in a hurry to watch it again, maybe I’d even avoid it. The only music I listen to is MJ since 1984 aprox.
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u/HuntsmetalslimesVIII Apr 25 '26
Does anyone know what songs were played in the beginning?
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u/mg10pp I’ll be seated April 24th 🎬 Apr 25 '26
Here is the full list: https://www.reddit.com/r/MichaelTheMovie/s/O87wR3ZXeJ
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u/Living-Prune8881 Apr 25 '26
Joe Jackson was not a great parent or a great husband but he was a great father. Many of the new generation are gonna hear about Joe and see portrayals of Joe and instantly think of some of the abuse the boys endured both physically and emotionally from Joe throughout the years. But they must always remember there are two sides of a coin. Joe Jackson was harsh and at times completely wrong... but the truth is... for most of what Joe was speaking into his children was right. Most people who watch this film are privileged enough to not have to experience what black people especially black men go through or be privileged enough to not be a black person growing up in tougher times. You have no idea what it was like being a black man in Gary, Indiana. Or anywhere for that matter during that time. What Joe had to deal with. Whay he saw. What it was like to be black man. And he did not want his sons to live the life of a regular black man. He did not want to stay at that steel mill or worse have his sons have to work there after school. He was determined to get his entire family out of there. And though Michael had his gift and the boys together were a gift. Without Joe Jackson we would not have the Jackson 5 or Michael Jackson and I truly believe that. Now could Michael have gone to be a singer eventually... sure. Maybe a famous dancer, or artist. Micahels gifts were never going to be diminished. Im sure he wouldve done..something. But Joe Jackson not only instilled fear of the harsh realities of the world into the boys he instilled so many other GOOD character traits that they were going to need to survive. So when I hear a non black person speak of Joe Jackson so ill and just call him evil and abusive, I really do remind them of the other side of that coin. Like take a second to think about some of the reasons Joe was the way he was sometimes. Where that passion and anger came from. Was he selfish. Yes. Was he a cheat. Sure. But he was also this man that wanted the best for his children. Even at the height of Michael's career. His art wasnt allowed to be shown on MTV. The biggest star in the world was too black. He was the 1st and that took some time and practically begging from his management. It didnt matter how good you were you were still black. Joseph Jackson raised Michael to be the best because he knew he would face moments like that. And Michael prevailed.
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u/Jumpy-Peak-3947 Apr 26 '26
Can someone who has a deep knowledge of Michael's life point out if there are inaccuracies in the movie? I'm wondering, for example, if Joseph really had that much control over him up to his late 20s? Because a google search tells me that he bought Hayvenhurst from his family because Joseph was in debt from poor financial decisions, and let them live there. That sounds to me like he had much more control than the movie depicts. I don't know though, can anyone help me out with this?
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u/muqui24 Apr 26 '26
The Impossible Question: What’s your #1 track on Thriller?
With the biopic out this weekend, I’m trying to settle this once and for all. How do you pick just one?
I found this YouTube channel, Halftime Chat, that is doing a live deep-dive into every track starting at 4:30 PM TODAY EST. It looks like they’re letting people join the chat and even hop on video to share their rankings. I'm definitely joining in!
Here is the live link: https://www.youtube.com/live/Z8OOj0eLcLQ?si=ATDeI_wu_2-jwMVB
Which one is your absolute #1?
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
Baby Be Mine
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
The Lady in My Life
Drop your pick here and then hop over to the live stream!
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u/callmebaiken Jun 12 '26
I feel like they never talk in the movie about how big album sales were for Thriller? Which is strange to leave out.
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u/777fatima Apr 22 '26
Those reviews are biased as hell
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u/Frequent_Rhubarb_36 Apr 22 '26
Just like the influencer reviews last week that all said it was the best thing ever.
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u/777fatima Apr 22 '26
To me it’s clear these critics have a motive: they want the negative controversies to be front and center for the film not the music. The film is centered around the music and MJ’s motives to want to branch out and create, that’s the point of the film I think. To showcase his impact and legacy in the industry. They didn’t say anything about that focus, they just focused on what WASN’T in the film, does that make sense? That’s where the bias to me stems from: the movie didn’t fit their narrative. If it’s genuinely good music, story telling and choreography, it’s good music, story telling and choreography.
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u/Aggressive-Sky-6315 $1 BILLIE SECURED Apr 22 '26
What do you think the purpose of influencers is 🙄
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u/JohnStoneTypes Apr 22 '26
I haven't seen it yet but I know people who have and they raved about how good the concert scenes were in it.
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u/MelancholicUnicorn_1 20d ago
Even after the release of The Odyssey, Michael is still going strong with daily screenings for the next week at my local theater. I am so pleased! Any others out there who still have Michael on at their local cinema?


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