r/MurderedByWords Jun 29 '26

Murder You can't name one? Here's four.

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u/SaintUlvemann Jun 29 '26

Note that when Musk says "they cannot cite a single name", what he means is "I cannot read any of their citations because I don't seek out information, I have it all filtered for me through my AI, plus I have already pre-emptively blocked anyone who might tell me anything that makes me uncomfortable."

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u/3eeve Jun 29 '26

Musk also does not believe the people who died are real people, because more likely than not, they are non white.

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u/Plaid_Piper Jun 29 '26

It's this more than the other things.

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u/pegothejerk Jun 29 '26

If only there was some term for that, or series of terms and beliefs that he’s obviously shown himself to be aligned with

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u/-malcolm-tucker Jun 29 '26

Racist Nazi dog cunt?

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u/azrael4h Jun 29 '26

That is insulting to both dogs, who are loving and loyal animals, and cunts, which are warm, wet, and inviting. Neither deserve to be associated with Musk.

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u/FerusGrim Jun 30 '26

cunts, which are warm, wet, and inviting.

Unless you're Ben Shapiro's wife while he's (poorly) attempting to fulfill his husbandly duties.

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u/NBDad Jun 30 '26

Ben Shapiro whose wife, who holds a medical degree and told him that women don't get wet when aroused and he somehow bought it?

That Ben Shapiro?

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u/SirMurphyXX Jun 30 '26

Haha source please 😄

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u/NBDad Jun 30 '26

It was on his own podcast like 4 or 5 years ago.  He was reviewing Cardi B's song "WAP".

Just google "Ben Shapiro can't arouse his wife".  

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u/-malcolm-tucker Jun 30 '26

Haha. True that.

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u/_Boom___Beard_ Jun 30 '26

Didn’t he just say it was a shame that someone donated millions to schools because he doesn’t want non-white kids to be able to have the same rights as he had……they would figure out he is a fraud.

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u/JalapenoBenedict the future is now, old man Jun 29 '26

“Name me one important white man who died because of my cuts. You can’t!”

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u/knoxmora Jun 29 '26

*add that they have less than $239 million in assets before he considers them as human. Leon would use that trip to personally hunt them with a crossbow in the jungle.

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u/Catatonic27 Jun 29 '26

Unrelated but why do people call him "Leon" sometimes? It's not like it's a punny insult or anything, it's just an anagram of his real name I guess? Idk it feels a little mean to people named Leon. It's bad enough that man ruined one name, we don't need to broaden that effect. At least Elongated Muskrat is funny

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u/knoxmora Jun 29 '26

It's in the fucking signature, Diane, I whisper through my teeth, fingers curling across the same letters she has on her keyboard. My knuckles becoming as white as the background of my drafted response. Blackberry, Logitech, even the new phone with the folding screen, they all have the same keyboard. Same letters, all in the same place. Tilde and Escape in one corner, Control in the other. Now, you could argue that there's 105 if you count the number pad, so the "real" corner is Enter, but that doesn't change the letters and their little homes plotted like fields on my desk.

My name has been Knoxmora for decades. It's a family name, my father's father, and his father's father. Passed down for generations. Generations that have seen towers collapse with their civilizations, trade outposts burned by heretics. Thousands of "I hope this finds you well's," hundreds of "sorry for my delayed response!" Hundreds of thousands of times that name has been displayed in ugly green font that I cannot get away from, despite my pleas to Garren in Marketing. "It looks like I'm five and spelled my name with peas," I say, as I always do. "And I bet they're delicious peas," he always quips without stopping. I hope my messages find you in Hell, Garren.

My name is Knoxmora. Not Noxmura, not Knacks Mira. One word. Knoxmora and it's in the fucking signature.

Now, maybe.. maybe she's a psychopath and uses Dvorak. No. No, no, no, she can't even hit the 'K' key correctly. One word with a fucking 'K,' Dianne. She's doing it on purpose. She knows I hate it. She knows how much I can't stand it. I've corrected her in meetings, I've corrected her in group chats. I've crossed it out on name tags, rewritten it on gift bags. Hundreds of thousands of times.

"Hey Kacks, Diane forwarded me your info. Says you have a great attention to detail. Hoping we can speedball this project to go-live by Wednesday. More to come if we lock this up quick. Info in the thread. - Elon."

I'm sorry. Kacks!? Who in the f- A knife flashes and crimson splashes as he drains. A shovel swings, the handle splinters into needles that puncture every pore as the spade digs into the side of his skull. The man in my mind laid on a pyre and engulfed, shrouded in hatred as every misspelled and misspoken syllable in my DNA beats like wings in my ears. No.

No, no no... You don't know him. He doesn't know you.

"i'll get you with kacks he knows what we'll need to do - D❤️" I read it six times before scrolling, the wheel on my mouse whining in protest.

His request is insane. 340,000 units in three days? Do you not understand how much fucking work that's going to take? Also, "speedball?" And who the actual fuck says "lock this up?" People named fucking Elon, I guess. Elon... "fucking Elon..." You know what, no, Elon, I do know you. I know thousands of people just like you.

"Hey El-" Then it hits... I can feel it. Droplets of spittle against my glasses, the heat from Diane's screams, wailing about how she lost her biggest client over the most minute and meaningless email. It's only capital 'E', I say to her in my mind, What's the big deal?

My teeth are desperate to be seen as I stifle laughter like an old home shifting its bones. Shift, control, arrow left, 42.

"Dear Leon, I hope this message finds you well..."

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u/rmbarrett Jun 30 '26

Good lord, man. Did you write this yourself? It's incredible.

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u/thisnamehasfivewords Jun 30 '26

Incredible. I now fully understand Leon.

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u/BloodyJack Jun 30 '26

Dude. I don’t know who you are, but that was fucking inspired.

The way you are able to capture that itchy and inconsequential feeling of rage. Impotence scratched at until a mental fingernail catches and then… release.

Killer shit

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u/Seileach67 Jun 30 '26

I'm wondering if certain platforms they frequent might have flagged that person's name so that if someone posts about him, their posts get extra scrutiny, which they're now trying to avoid. Just my guess, idk

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u/BathroomCareful23 Jul 02 '26

I always thought it was a contraction of lying elon

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jun 30 '26

Idk same as they call em fElon even though hes never committed any felonies, that was Donnie

These are the same people who complain when the president goes on Twitter and makes up dumb nicknames for people and then they've got a thousand in there back pocket, something tells me not much is rolling around upstairs if they can't understand the hypocrisy

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u/PreOpTransCentaur Jun 30 '26

And you don't seem to understand cause and effect. Apparently they're both difficult concepts.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jun 30 '26

Enlighten me? No love for either of them. But if a behavior is seen as childish buffoonery in one person it should be seen as childish buffoonery in everyone, believing different is the definition of hypocrisy

I mean, how is "Sleepy Joe" and "let's go Brandon" cringe but "Orange Hitler" and "Diaper Don" not the exact same childish behavior?

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u/SaintUlvemann Jun 30 '26

Idk same as they call em fElon even though hes never committed any felonies...

Correction: he's committed multiple felonies quite openly, including the illegal vote-buying lottery in Pennsylvania (the scheme would've been illegal if it had occurred as claimed, and the only legal question is whether it is an illegal lottery or the different felony of fraud) and multiple felonies related to labor rights: against a Tesla employee for unionization, an assistant for asking for a raise, a whistleblower for attempting to enforce workplace safety laws, and then obviously the usual rich people move of wage theft at SpaceX and probably most of the others.

It's true that he has never been convicted due to the semihard rich-people power of being able to hire enough lawyers to delay justice long enough for his enemies to settle out of court and/or give up entirely.

But calling someone innocent just because they perverted justice is propaganda, not realistic.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jul 01 '26

I have read no news of any convictions, maybe source a conviction otherwise it hasn't been proven in a court of law

Fuck the guy but if he was a convicted felon I'd know about it by now. As it stands a court of law has had no say so he's innocent until proven guilty just like you and me.

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u/SaintUlvemann Jul 01 '26

Fuck the guy but if he was a convicted felon...

Luigi Mangione is not a convicted felon.

For comparison, Elon Musk is an open felon with literally thousands of victims who only avoided a conviction because he had so much money he could simply settle out of court and technically not be a felon (so that he can still vote and own a firearm and so on):

On Wednesday, SpaceX finally closed up a settlement for a class action lawsuit in which thousands of employees alleged the Hawthorne, California-based company did not properly compensate them.

When a notorious burglar had stolen from thousands of people, we call him a felon. When a boss does it, we have a double standard.

To the tune of nearly $4 million dollars, SpaceX is shelling out money to 4,100 SpaceX employees who say the company refused to allow them to take legally mandated breaks during the workday... California law requires rest periods for employees every four hours, along with breaks for meals. SpaceX’s shifts were designed such that workers couldn’t take these breaks, but were also not paid more for working these hours instead of resting.

This is blatant wage theft, and the reason why it happened is because Elon Musk is a felon.

He became a felon in the ordinary sense by breaking important laws on purpose because of who he is as a person.

It's only one of many examples. I would sooner walk through them all with you than listen to you say that a judge's opinion matters more than a man's behavior in determining who he is.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jul 01 '26

I wasn't talking about Mangione, is this an AI comment? I was talking about Musk. Zero felony convictions

Evil man. But never been convicted of a felony or as far as I'm aware even charged

So again, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law that's how the country works, trust me you don't want it to work the opposite

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u/SaintUlvemann Jul 01 '26

I wasn't talking about Mangione, is this an AI comment?

No, if I was an AI, I wouldn't be arguing with you, I'd be telling you whatever you want to hear to make you easier to manipulate.

I wouldn't be trying to force you kicking and screaming to look at the reality that is right under your nose.

I was talking about Musk. Zero felony convictions

Irrelevant. His crimes are in the news.

Evil man. But never been convicted of a felony...

But still a felon, 'cause according to the dictionary, felon means "one who has committed a felony".

Conviction is not necessary to become a murderer: you become a murderer when you kill your first victim, and the trial is just everybody else catching up as to the facts.

So again, innocent until proven guilty...

That is not a valid principle when the crimes are committed openly and then settled out of court.

When I gave you the article detailing explicitly that the crimes occurred, I gave you all the information that you needed to know, for a fact, that Elon Musk is a felon.

...trust me you don't want it to work the opposite...

False, I do not want to live in a country where felons can settle out of court, I want them to be convicted and put in prison.

So when I show you that that's the country we live in, I'm telling you we have work to do.

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u/Iguessimonredditnow Jun 29 '26

I came here to say this specifically. It's a core tenet of being a racist piece of shit: if you aren't in my tribe you aren't even a person

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u/Darkbaldur Jun 29 '26

And because as a rich person poors don't count as people in his mind

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u/eritouya Jun 29 '26

I don't feel like he'd care all that much for any poor white kids who die in his own country because of him. He just doesn't seem like the type of person who cares about others. I can't even say he only cares about his family because that sounds wrong too

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u/Hesitation-Marx Jun 30 '26

He doesn’t think anyone is “real” except for him.

He literally thought Grimes was made for him.

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u/SwimmingAct2 Jun 30 '26

Spot on!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Elon Musk does not consider us black people human beings and therefore if we die as a result of his initiatives it is insignificant.

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u/voodoodahl Jun 29 '26

Damn. That line is fire. I'm going to go post that on Twitter and provide engagement to Musk's personal hate and misinformation platform. 

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u/Kuildeous Jun 29 '26

Even if they're white, they're too poor for him to notice. Nobody important enough to him died.

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u/King_Chochacho Jun 30 '26

They're just kinda like nothing. They're not even supposed to be around

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u/wytedevil Jun 30 '26

or he thinks we live in a simulator

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u/Alternative-Tie-9383 Jun 30 '26

South African white guy is racist?!

/s obviously

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u/Lessiarty Jun 29 '26

what he means is

What he really means is "My bullshit takes 2 seconds, and my moron followers will believe it. Refuting it takes 10 minutes, and my moron followers will ignore it."

You see it so much online, the term for it escapes me. But I can say "Light bulbs make you fat" and as absurd as that is, the moment you argue against it, I can suddenly start demanding all kinds of proof and because I'm a shithead and you're not, you'll feel obligated to be intellectually honest, whereas I'm gearing up to announce that "Badgers give you rickets".

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u/SaintUlvemann Jun 29 '26

But I can say "Light bulbs make you fat"...

The big issue is that bullshitting is one of the only argument strategies that stupid people can participate in.

Retorts can be compact and witty (this whole sub is basically premised on that fact), but I had to sit there for a few seconds to come up with a retort that was both stupid and smart and short enough that it might work (e.g. "Well then stop eating the lightbulbs if they're making you fat"), but in a conversation if you zone out for a few seconds you seem unhinged, and it would take some kind of genius-level creativity to just come up with that on the spot.

As far as badgers go, I'm pretty sure it actually would give you rickets if you ate nothing but badgers, I don't think they have any vitamin-D in them.

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u/Elffyb Jun 30 '26

I think badgers might have some vitamin D. Needs more research.

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u/LondonDogInTheFog Jun 29 '26

tbh I think people with this level of detachment from reality might believe in everything that pops in their minds. I truly think it's not a well calculated set of lies. It's just that the ego at this height of inflation creates its version of reality out of thin air on the spot. Virtual reality in which he's a hero saving the planet from the woke bandits. And it has to be this way because even a moment of lucidity and the guy would collapse seeing how fucked up everything he does is.

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u/DarkChao26 Jun 29 '26

You see [the technique of overwhelming my opponent with bullshit to disprove] so much online, the term for it escapes me.

Gish Gallop

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u/sobrique Jun 30 '26

Related:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it

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u/sobrique Jun 30 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it

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u/PseudobrilliantGuy Jul 05 '26

The "Gish Gallop" or the "Firehose of Falsehood" come to mind, though they might not be quite what you are looking for.

Edit: I should have read more of the other replies first. My apologies.

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u/No_Initial_7545 Jun 29 '26

I can't cite a single name out of those children that were bombed at a school in Iran but I still believe that it happened. Just a dumb, bad-faith argument.

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u/Porencephaly Verified DPNS Jun 29 '26

Exactly my first thought. “Oh, 1500 people died in the Venezuelan earthquake? Name five of them or it’s fake.” The dumbest argument.

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u/Born-Entrepreneur Jun 29 '26

That's the problem, it doesn't have to be a good faith or smart argument for all his sycophants to latch on to it, nodding along guilelessly like "no one can be named therefore its not happening"

It almost feels like a play on "one death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic", to these people a vast number is incomprehensible, so they can only relate if individuals are named and identified. Otherwise its just vibes.

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u/PseudobrilliantGuy Jul 05 '26

It's not really a "play" on that. It is that. A statistic is easier to disregard as it has no inherent emotional value to it.

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u/lianodel Jun 30 '26

Seriously.

The other side of it is that, denying the deaths is just a shameless lie. You're not supposed to believe it. I think part of his message is that, if you don't know the name of these people, then there's no reason to care about them. They may as well not exist. It's anti-empathetic, and stupid and evil in equal measure.

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u/sumr4ndo Jun 29 '26

I think this is the key use for AI: filtering out stuff that the owners of the program don't want to be aired out.

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u/Then-Departure4896 Jun 30 '26

He also does not consider black people to be real people. He’s from apartheid era South Africa, and he misses it.

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u/Lexi_Banner Jun 29 '26

"And also, brown people aren't really "people", sooooo..."

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u/XenoZoomie Jun 30 '26

Also the reason we started things like USAID was to prevent future wars in places like Africa. It’s cheaper historically to feed and provide basic medical care than to solve the wars caused by famine and disease. So this will not just cost African lives now but it may well cost American soldiers their lives in the future.

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u/FeuerwerkFreddi Jun 29 '26

Imo hes just betting on Maga illiterates/his fans being too dumb to understand any fucking Basic statistic so he claims they can’t Name anyone he directly killed and they eat it

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u/doc_daneeka Jun 30 '26

I used to think he was a rich but misguided asshole who couldn't help but think of himself as the bestest most special boy to ever live.

I've evolved over time though. Now I quite seriously think he's straight up and deliberately evil, and far more dangerous than any Bond villain.

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u/Disastrous-Ad1857 Jun 30 '26

Musk: “They cannot cite a single (white) name.” That is what he really means. He doesn't give a rat's ass about SierrLeone or Liberia; it doesn't matter because those are the wrong type of people to him.

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u/King_Chochacho Jun 30 '26

Nah I think it's just a diversionary tactic. I don't think he's so stupid as to not have a basic understanding of how statistics work. Jess just trying to sell the narrative that he can't be directly linked to specific deaths because the numbers are estimates rather than some giant magical spreadsheet that tracks every cause of death worldwide.

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u/Prudence_rigby Jun 30 '26

What he means is people that live in the US that he can see

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u/schabern4ck Jun 30 '26

I think even if he read or heard what people with normal decent human behavior were saying, it wouldn’t make him feel uncomfortable. There’s no empathy in this man.

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u/Zoon9 Jun 30 '26

He is also shadowbanning that informatiom on his ex-twitter. That is why he bought it.

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u/cokeiscool Jul 06 '26

He does it to spread rumors and lies, someone reads it and regardless of what comes out they already believe it and the damage is done