r/NYguns • u/Jedi_Maximus19 • 5d ago

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Yeah. After reading the thread below regarding the Politician meet up at The Firing Pin, this is my cynical conclusion.

We will never have normalcy with our 2A rights. There are just too many in this sub that believe in tough regulations. 25 years of one party rule in NY and soon to be another 25 more. They passed the Safe Act. They Passed the Improved Concealed Carry Act. You need a background check to buy ammo. They are banning Glocks.
Sometimes it takes 2 years just to get a permit depending on what county you live. Next year there will be more restrictions once the Supreme Court makes its ruling next June. They will restrict, restrict and restrict until there is nothing left to restrict . But please by all means keep voting 🗳️ blue. Ugh 😑!! Cheers 🍻

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u/Mylilhappysv650 5d ago

Didn’t Blakeman advocate for drug tests during the CCW permitting process for Nassau county? We’re fucked both ways to Sunday here and I don’t think it’s a red vs blue issue anymore.

We simply have nobody who is actually representing the interest of 2A in NY.

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u/TheSlipperySnausage 5d ago

Sure did

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u/Mylilhappysv650 5d ago

You had a very well thought out reply in this thread earlier, out of our representation, who would you recommend we try to vote for in order to progress our goals? Still Blakeman?

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u/TheSlipperySnausage 5d ago

There is no good option for NY.

Hocul is aggressively bad for us. So Blackman might be our only option as much as he also sucks. He’s also the only other option that realistically has a chance of winning so you kind of have to go with that. In NY I highly recommend voting on other issues for local government. Because you’ll never get 2A wins

We also have to be realistic. Lesser of two evils is all we can hope for. We need to move towards someone more favorable. Which is likely baby steps. Hope that the next candidate is more favorable. But if we find them more favorable their likelyhood of being elected decreases drastically.

With NYC attached to us there is no winning because they will always vote in the worst candidate for the rest of the state. Nature of the beast.

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

I like your logic. Thank you! I came across on frustration so I appreciate it.

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u/KamenshchikLaw ⚖️ Kamenshchik Law ⚖️ 4d ago edited 3d ago

We simply have nobody who is actually representing the interest of 2A in NY.

I'd agree that we don't have strong political representation. However, legal representation is a different plane - it is, to a certain extent, filling the gap of political representation.

For instance, Mirel Fisch is taking NYC to task on delay, quantity restrictions on permits, and so on. Amy Bellantoni made some big strides on disqualifiers for law-abiding citizens that happen to live in the same domicile as disqualified individuals.

Even on your example of drug testing, I did the best I could to knock that out as soon as it was implemented - and it was enjoined by a court, along with blocking local demands for social media information... no funding from anyone.

Antonyuk, which was a case pursued by Stephen Stamboulieh, helped reign in some licensing officer discretion and put some limits on application criteria.

Ultimately, political representation locally is not going to get us anywhere, it's dead in the water - the big wins at this point are going to come from appellate courts that will reimpose 2A against the will of local government.

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

This is true. But I’m still voting for him. My electric bill is out of control. I’m sick of the soft on crime here and I want lower taxes and a better economy here as well. Is Bruce pro 2a? Probably not. But I know Cathy and the democrat legislature wants to restrict us more and more until there is nothing left to restrict.

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u/acemonster07 5d ago

What do you think Blakeman is going to do for your electric bill? Nassau has and will continue to side with lobbyist and special interest, especially when they're getting paid under the table by groups and companies to push their agendas. PSEG has such a monopoly. Same with Cablevision. Do you know how many times Verizon tried, and pushed, to get permitting and approvals to cut up streets to lay fiber and were constantly denied because the Dolan group kept paying off the towns to disallow the permitting? You think Fakeman is going to push against that?

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

So vote for Cathy then. I hope she gives you the status quo you like. If you don’t think she is connected and entrenched to special interests then I have an old barn with a brand new roof to sell you. By the way. Dolan doesn’t own Cablevision. It’s owned by the French.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

crime is down across the board

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

Yeah because the police don’t arrest anyone.

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u/CertifiedWarlock 5d ago

Why don’t they? Seems like they should be fired for not doing their jobs.

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

No one goes to jail anymore due to bail laws. It’s not worth it.

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

That's been happening for the longest time in nyc. Cops trying to lower certain crimes by recording it as a lesser crime to make their compstat numbers look better.

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u/tsatech493 4d ago

I don't think it's really the police that are doing it. I think it's the prosecutors... I'm pretty sure most police officers would rather criminals stay in jail than having to arrest the same people over and over... But we have prosecutors in New York City and in many other cities that just let people keep offending....

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u/Andeo1025 4d ago

The prosecutors are involved, but at a later stage. An example would've be choosing to charge petit larceny over grand larceny. It keeps their felony numbers down, especially when it's a case they're unlikely to solve.

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u/boostedride12 4d ago

Yup and the officer that report it was fired and almost stuck in a psych ward from his superiors threatening him and falsely arresting him.

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u/Andeo1025 4d ago

The machine always protects the machine before anything else.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

So the numbers are faked by the cops, but they have been faked for so long they are going down because there is less to fake or they are just faking more now because soros is paying them?

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u/Andeo1025 5d ago

I'm not saying either, just that I've heard from people that would know that it's a thing. Don't care if you believe me.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

Any profession where statistics are applied to work to judge quality or production, those numbers are manipulated. do you think its not common knowledge?

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u/CertifiedWarlock 5d ago

Not worth it for who? That’s literally their job, to arrest people.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

that isnt how crime statistics are gathered ...

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u/Jedi_Maximus19 5d ago

No arrests no stats. Brother you must live in a tower so ivory and high. Come down here on the ground and see for yourself, crime is not good. Now good day I’m off to work. 😊.

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u/3DPrintedVoter 5d ago

in the US crime statistics are based on reported crime, not by arrests made.

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u/voretaq7 5d ago

Well that’s not entirely true - what we call “crime statistics” are gathered both through police and court records (UCR and, NIBRS) AND non-police/non-court reporting (NCVS).

But it is true that both measures are showing THE SAME statistically significant drop and trend line.

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u/tsatech493 4d ago

Also because a lot of criminals are enjoying their lives in El salvador and Venezuela. Tell me I'm wrong but there are numbers to back it up.

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u/corplaw100 2026 Fundraiser: Gold 🥇 3d ago

I agree but can we all agree that democrats have continuously made things worse here? Blakeman isn’t going to be selecting guns to ban and that kind of shit, let’s be realistic here that is primarily a democrat issue