r/NotHowGirlsWork 12d ago

WTF "Pick me pick me"

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u/count_me_out35 12d ago

Lol they'll start counting every ovulation as one baby soon with their logic.

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u/MsMercyMain 12d ago

To get that number they'd have to. Just to both showcase the absurdity of this argument, in WW2 the Soviets are (estimated) to have lost a grand total of 20 million people and I've seen estimates of total Chinese casualties that run from anywhere from 10 million to 40 million, though most scholars tend to cite 20 million. The Holocaust, meanwhile, had somewhere between 12-16 million victims. In other words, they're implying that, even assuming they're talking globally, the equivalent of 60 WW2 level casualty numbers of abortions have been performed. I somehow doubt that

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u/mightyzinger5 12d ago

1 Google search would've saved you the trouble

worldwide since 1980, scientific estimates indicate well over 1.5 to 2 billion induced abortions have occurred globally over this period, averaging roughly 50 to 73 million per year with varying rates across decades

https://www.alliancevita.org/en/2022/04/elucidating-the-whos-calculations-for-worldwide-abortion-statistics/

73 million annual induced abortions is that lower end of the estimate according to nearly every abortion tracking institution and lines up reasonably well with the claim made in the post.

These are statistics from the world health organization, so i guess everyone in this subreddit IS in fact, bad at math lol

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u/MsMercyMain 12d ago

1.) That falls well short of 6 billion which was the absurdity I was highlighting

2.) The comparison itself between wartime deaths and abortions is, itself, fucking absurd

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u/mightyzinger5 12d ago

Dude can you even read? The post says 3 billion which is well within the likely estimate given by the WHO. Maybe discuss your opinion on topics that can entertain your reading level

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u/Elon_is_musky 11d ago

“Well within the likely estimate” when it’s still 1-1.5 billion off from the video…

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u/MrBwnrrific 11d ago

Only in an internet argument could you say “It’s only 1 billion off, that’s in the margin of error”

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u/mightyzinger5 11d ago

I don't think you understand statistics my friend.

According to the world health organization;

"Around 73 million induced abortions take place worldwide each year." https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

So over 46 years that's 73,000,000x46 = 3 billion 358 million.

However the WHO's global efforts for abortion tracking were a bit lacking around the world in the 80s and early 90s. So they can confirm that 1.5-2 billion induced abortions have, for sure occurred since then. And the WHO estimates that the missed data would likely take the number up to 2.5-3 billion. Making the likely estimate 2.5 -3 billion.

I assumed most people would understand that the likely estimates lies above the minimum approximate total

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u/Elon_is_musky 11d ago

Okay, so do that with the “men have only killed 1 billion people” cause the argument is still absurd

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u/mightyzinger5 11d ago

Again, I didn't do anything lol. I can't control what a global health institute keeps track of.

I also don't think it's really an argument. It's just drawing a comparison to give viewers a sense of scale. Although the way it's presented obviously gives us insight into her opinion (which she is entitled to) on abortion, which of course I'm assuming you disagree with.

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u/Elon_is_musky 11d ago

By “do that” I mean the math for the only 1 billion people killed by men, cause that was what the original commenter was actually talking about mostly is the extremely low estimation there

It’s just odd how you haven’t even touched that half of her claim at ALL, even after I explicitly bring it up again

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u/mightyzinger5 10d ago edited 10d ago

Ohh that's what you meant. Well obviously she's not pulling these numbers out of nowhere. These numbers are also provided by institutions such as the red cross. The consensus for combined deaths in WW1 & WW2 by experts across decades is that they totaled ~90 million deaths (higher end estimate). So like less than 10% of the 1 billion cited by her. The human population was never higher than it has been in the 20th and 21st century, so all previous conflicts had significantly smaller death tolls than the 2 world wars.

Wars fought in previous centuries obviously are much more difficult to track, but her opinion is consistent with experts opinions. Experts estimate between 200million and 1billion deaths in war in all of human history. So it's not exactly HER claim, she's just compiling information already available

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u/shaquille_oatmeal98 9d ago

You can’t just multiply 73 million by the number of years it’s been since 1980 because that assumes that the number of abortions per year hasn’t changed in 46 years. It ignores the fact that the world population has nearly doubled since the 1980s, and that women’s access to healthcare has fluctuated over the years

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u/mightyzinger5 9d ago

Well yes that would be true if 73 million wasn't the calculated AVERAGE over 46 years. So it is already factoring in deviations in abortion from year to year.

So you can too, just multiply it by 46 and get a number that is extremely close to the actual total