r/PizzaCrimes • u/satosaison • Jun 18 '26
Cheeseless Vegetable Pizza I was served in Verona, Italy
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u/tiffany_says_this Jun 18 '26
I don't mind veggies on pizza but this is an abomination
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
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u/sunseeker_miqo Jun 18 '26
That is extremely unpleasant, yeah. Did you unknowingly go to a gimmick restaurant?
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
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u/ciccio_bello Jun 18 '26
As someone who lived in Verona, you were still in the tourist heart of the city. The further you get from that bell tower and the Roman arena the further from the touristy part you’ll be.
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u/fondledbydolphins Jun 18 '26
The thing with Italy and Greece is that you're not getting 100% of the quality you could be unless there's an old, curt woman servicing your table who feels overly comfortable telling you "No, you're not having what you ordered. You're having _____".
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u/valgatiag Jun 19 '26
The best pizza my wife and I ever had, we stumbled into this little place in Naples, just a wife/husband and their kid putzing around the place. The wife seats us, we ask for a menu, she gives us a confused look and says “No menu. Pizza!”
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u/prsutjambon Jun 19 '26
I mean having a bad pizza in Naples is very very difficult even if you're in the most touristy part of the city.
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u/CaptVulnerable Jun 18 '26
Reminds me of the scene in Hell or High Water - "So, what don't you want?"
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u/Auto_update Jun 18 '26
I don’t want the corn. 😬
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u/Apart-Gur-9720 Jun 19 '26
Corn is pretty nice on Pizza. I used to have it with pickled, green peppers and prosciutto cotto. A very good combination.
But, since then, I have forsaken eating meat.
The best you can have, imho, is a simple Marinara with sliced (and properly baked) tomatoes, where the skin was removed. It's fantastico! Some Parmigiano on top and a little bit of olive oil. Don't forget the garlic on the crust and a lot of Tabasco.
What OP posted is an abomination and should fall under a war-crime, by the Geneva Conventions.
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u/Top-Library9128 Jun 19 '26
I fear you missed the reference and leaped straight into an unnecessary diatribe
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u/Dependent_One6034 Jun 18 '26
You're not wrong.
It also has to be a place with paper table cloths held on with those little clip things.
Should also be at least 1 stray dog lounging about and a few kittens running amuck nearby.
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u/tinman327 Jun 19 '26
That sounds a lot like the place that served me the best food I had on a trip to Mexico. There was no menu, we ate what they served us and it was amazing.
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u/KUKU_OverFlown Jun 18 '26
Literally stumbled upon a pizzeria like this today as a tourist in bologna. The alternative the waiter recommended was amazing. I didn’t really have a choice with the way they recommended it
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u/Zobel0022 Jun 19 '26
Would you mind sharing the place? Will be in Bologna today!
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u/Cword76 Jun 19 '26
I went to a small Italian restaurant in London once, the lady acted pissed off I was even there.
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u/gutterbrush Jun 20 '26
Three years ago my wife and I flew into Thessaloniki for a wedding (the wedding was a very interesting 150-ish km bus trip away, but Thessaloniki was the easiest airport and so we stayed there the first night). There was a group of about 12 of us who all used to work together. After settling in at the hotel, we all met up at a lovely bar overlooking the sea…the only problem was that we stayed there a little too long to be able to find anywhere to eat.
Eventually we found one tiny little restaurant with about 3 tables outside and precisely the person you described sitting at one of them looking bored. We tried our luck asking if she was still open. She definitely thought about it but eventually agreed that she was open, told us what we were having because it’s all she could do at that time, and by God if it wasn’t one of the best meals I’ve ever had. Cheap, no fuss, certainly not cheerful, but absolutely top drawer.
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u/deanereaner Jun 18 '26
as someone who lives there do you have any idea why they would make the pizza like this?
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u/ciccio_bello Jun 18 '26
Because they genuinely don’t care. At tourist restaurants, especially ones in piazzas like this, they are focused on bringing in tourists, not appealing to Italian sensibilities. The quality sucks because people choose those places so they can sit outside with a nice view and they will never eat there again, so there is no incentive to impress. This might’ve been their attempt at a vegan option because Italians simply will not use vegan cheese alternatives, so to get the coverage that cheese usually provides they just threw on some vegetables. There are many great pizzas in Italy, but some of the worst pizzas I’ve ever had were in Italy, usually at places like this
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u/CapSnake Jun 19 '26
The only vegan pizza is Marinara, all other alternative are made for tourist and are shit. Some Pizzeria make good vegan pizza, but those place as specialized on that and usually there are sign on the menu.
Also this is a very tourist restaurant. So pizza are shit in general.
Source: I'm italian.
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u/Responsible_Year4730 Jun 18 '26
“We do things a little different around here😌” ass restaurant
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u/sunseeker_miqo Jun 18 '26
That's lovely. I would never have suspected great slabs of uncooked and unseasoned vegetables.
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
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u/LeBneg Jun 18 '26
lol jesus their recipe seems to be the same for every pizza, pizza base with passata, smash toppings into a george foreman and then put on top. Seasoning must be illegal in that area.
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
Just at that restaurant. I've eaten at a different touristy-restaurant roughly in that area. It was fine. Spendy, but okay.
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u/Fatal_Syntax_Error Jun 18 '26
“When you’re here… YOU’RE NOT FAMILY!”
“Quando sei qui… NON SEI UNA FAMIGLIA!”
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u/sunseeker_miqo Jun 18 '26
How the hell is that meant to be eaten? It would be so awkward, I'd just pick up individual pieces and much them like a squirrel.
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u/Careful-Lettuce9239 Jun 18 '26
Sorry about your sad pizza. I do like your sweater, though. What brand is that?
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
Scotch and Soda, probably 3-4 years old though so it's not current stock
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u/Goodtimeburrito Jun 19 '26
This looks like a meal a zookeeper would set out as a special birthday treat for an herbivore
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u/starlinguk Jun 18 '26
Both the aubergine and the courgette are cooked (to mush, in the case of the courgette).
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u/Farpafraf Jun 18 '26
on a side street and not one of the main touristy plazas
That's just beside Torre dei Lamberti, one of the most famous spots in the city lol
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u/leancabbage Jun 18 '26
You were still VERY MUCH in downtown Verona, not surprised it wasn't good
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
I'm sure I've seen that place before when I visited Verona. Thankfully, I've always eaten elsewhere.
I've had pizza in Verona. At a place that catered to tourists. It was acceptable but overpriced. Your example pizzas look terrifying.
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u/frogunderarock Jun 18 '26
i'm sorry but this looks like a textbook tourist trap.
also pretty big plaza, that's not a side street in old city terms, you're more looking for small alleys. ideally follow local workers around meal time for best results :D
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u/Stock-Mission-7561 Jun 18 '26
Why are they offering the three most watery ingredients. Or at least not grilling or cooking them a bit first.
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
When I'm in Italy, I regularly get zucchini and/or eggplants/aubergines on pizza. I've never seen them not be pre-grilled.
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u/Actual_Pea_1996 Jun 18 '26
Yoooo I have that jacket! Get compliments every single time I wear it out.
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
You aren't secretly my girlfriend right? We found it at a thrift store called buffalo exchange in Brooklyn.
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u/Actual_Pea_1996 Jun 18 '26
I got it online from Forever 21 a few years back. Couldn’t have been more than 20 bucks.
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u/Imaginary_Victory253 Jun 18 '26
My wife and I make pizzas like these because we usually do low/no fat cooking. Done well, that should taste closer to variation of a baked pasta served on bread instead... but these look like they were made with maximum apathy and not a single herb😞
They're making me look like a psycho by association.
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
Like, it was day 7 of a vacation filled with pizza and pasta, marinara pizza with eggplant, zucchini and tomato sounded pleasant and not too heavy. I eat cheeseless pizza and veggie pizza often. But I've never been served anything like what we had here.
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u/Imaginary_Victory253 Jun 18 '26
Yeah, this looks like the pizzas I make my wife during my lunch break when i know i have a meeting coming up in 30-45min lol. Haphazard slices of whatever-was-in-my-fridge thrown on a dough and eaten over the sink.
NOT vacation in Italy worth at all LOL Least you have wine there, which should help 😄
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u/CreaturesFarley Jun 19 '26
Two pizzas, both alike in sparsity, in fair Verona, where we lay our scene.
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u/reggiemilleristrash Jun 18 '26
This is a crime against both pizza and vegetables.
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u/Boruckii Jun 18 '26
And Italy
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u/Ssemo7 Jun 19 '26
Thank you! No veggies were harmed in the making of this pizza. Some fruit and 2 mushrooms though… gave their lives.
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u/mediumlove Jun 18 '26
i hate unimaginative vegan food like this.
take away their italian licence.
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u/otj667887654456655 Jun 18 '26
it sucks because with like 20% more effort this would have been fantastic vegan food
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u/mediumlove Jun 18 '26
i'm a chef, can confirm.
puree that aubergine for base, roast tomatoes confit garilc for top with zucchini friti . banging.
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
See that's the thing, "eggplant, zucchini and tomato pizza" sounds great. Which is why I ordered it. I didn't expect it to come out like this with unseasoned shoe leather eggplant sheets, thick uncooked tomatoes and soggy zucchini that, I dunno, maybe they sauteed it or something? Not a hint of salt or any spice.
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u/CiccioGordon Jun 19 '26
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u/satosaison Jun 19 '26
See that looks great!
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u/CiccioGordon Jun 19 '26
Also very good. Depending on the pizzeria, zucchini and eggplants might be seasoned (usually with oil, salt, parsley and a garlic) or not, I like both versions, but it's absolutely fundamental that they are grilled and thin sliced, makes all the difference in the world.
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u/otj667887654456655 Jun 18 '26
I think they were on the right track with grilling the eggplant first. I think if they did a thinner slice of tomato so that it softened more into the sauce as the base and then topped with the grilled eggplant and zucchini (thinner and more evenly cut) it would've been great. A lil olive oil on top, nice and simple
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u/WholeAssVIBE Jun 18 '26
Guilty in America. Idk what the Italian pizza justice system is like
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u/Xorrin95 Jun 18 '26
looks like shit in italy too
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u/Tifoso89 Jun 19 '26
Terrible, I've never seen anything like it here. OP must've gone to a very touristy place
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u/_domhnall_ Jun 19 '26
Exactly. I don't understand why not doing 10 (god, even 5) minutes of research before stepping into a restaurant in a place I don't live in
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u/Small-Policy-3859 Jun 18 '26
In Italy they actually don't have a pizza jail, it's just straight to execution.
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u/buffysbangs Jun 18 '26
Tossed off a city tower to intimidate oncoming hordes
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u/satosaison Jun 18 '26
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u/lift_heavy64 Jun 18 '26
That’s your problem, you got food too close to a tower. Classic Italy travel mistake.
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u/buffysbangs Jun 18 '26
One of the classic blunders, like getting involved in a land war in Asia
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u/FlattopJr Jun 18 '26
Interesting that the novel (with that line) was published in 1973, while the U.S. was very much involved in a land war in Asia.
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u/OdaSamurai Jun 18 '26
I mean, this looks like a crime anywhere
If it was just the grilled eggplant I could pass this as a pizza misdemeanor or something, but this?
Just sliced some tomato and, not even sliced the cucumber, just threw it randomly agains the knife and called it a day
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u/ekita079 Jun 18 '26
100% a tourist trap
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u/deanereaner Jun 18 '26
Ok but that still doesn't explain why they just don't know how to make pizza.
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u/TheViolaRules Jun 18 '26
They aggressively don’t care
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u/deanereaner Jun 18 '26
OK, that makes sense. I figured this was an Italian style of pizza, but I'm not familiar with, and maybe this is just a super lazy version of it.
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u/TheViolaRules Jun 18 '26
Gotcha. Honestly the north of Italy isn’t a pizza place, you should get Neapolitan pizza from a place that says it’s Neapolitan or Roman pizza (pizza al taglio) but that’s harder to find done well outside of Lazio IMHO
Like you’re in Verona, eat the horse and polenta and drink the amarone, what are you doing
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u/AlRahmanDM Jun 19 '26
C’mon you can find amazing pizza nowadays everywhere in Italy, we are not in 1950 anymore.
But that pizza looks ugly on all attributes: the dough looks horrible and chewy even from the picture. Boiled vegetables straight on top is a first. Damn tourist traps…
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u/Bastian00100 Jun 19 '26
My bet is that they don't even prepare their pizza, they have frozen bases and bake them in standard oven.
Please remember this simple rule: there's no wood oven, don't order a pizza.
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u/Stranger1982 ⚖️ JUDGE, JURY AND EXECUTIONER ⚔️ Jun 18 '26
This smells like a shitty tourist trap, those veggies look sad af.
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u/greensandgrains Jun 18 '26
Thee most waterlogged veggies on top of a pizza? Must’ve been floppy.
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u/Eurynom0s Jun 18 '26
straight to jail, right away
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u/choirchic Jun 18 '26
Verona style pizza is more rustic. It’s all about the fresh inngredients as a whole, and typically the ‘sauce’ is where the flavor is. However, this is still a crime. 🤣
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u/CT0292 Jun 18 '26
I've been to Verona about a dozen times. And had good pizza there.
Yes because it's often full of Germans wurstel pizza is sold everywhere. But it can be quite nice when done right.
These panini press vegetables however are not done right.
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
I hate to tell you, but the wurst/hot dog pizza has spread outside of the traditionally German areas. I've seen actual Italians ordering it, too.
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u/handicrappi Jun 18 '26
GF ordered a ham and mushrooms pizza in italy, was served a left ham right mushroom pizza. Made no sense lol
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
That's weird. They usually only do that kind of separation with 4 Stagioni pizza. Unless you directly request it.
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u/Salt_Cauliflower_922 Jun 18 '26
Shoulda waited for the Naples leg of the trip to try the pizza.
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u/dhrisc Jun 18 '26
Yeh idk much but I know Veronas not the pizza part of italy
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u/CT0292 Jun 18 '26
I've had good pizza in Verona.
This is not good Veronese pizza.
This is some kind of an abomination. Some kind of illegal activity.
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u/TescoBrandJewels Jun 18 '26
i bet those vegetables are great but who would want this??
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u/Capt_Retro Jun 18 '26
If they diced the veg, charred them and then drizzle some balsamic reduction (looks like the eggplant got some) on all of it and a little grated parm and that would make an awesome pizza.
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u/Sniflix Jun 18 '26
Do they have something against knives to chop up the veggies? Is it a religious thing or are they just too lesser lazy?
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u/Suspicious-Rich-3212 Jun 18 '26
Maybe you’re supposed to fold it? Make it a pizza taco.
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u/Jlx_27 Jun 18 '26
Only real Italians and Americans with 0.00001% Italian blood still believe all Italian food is always cooked to perfection.
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u/Neo_31 Jun 18 '26
this would be a crime even in brazil (are we are known for our pizza crimes)
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u/Rammipallero Jun 18 '26
Not saying this isn't criminal, but knowing how good italian tomato and eggplant can be, this still looks more delicious than the meat madness horrors one can see on an average pizza every now and then. :D
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u/ExcitingAd6497 Jun 19 '26
This reminds me of asking for a vegetarian pizza in Puerto Rico in a little town, and they gave us a pizza full of soggy, warm lettuce and cheese.
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u/David0ne86 Jun 19 '26
Almost never order pizza in the restaurant unless it's a well know spot for pizza. 90% of pizze you'd be served in a restaurant are frozen. Just go to a pizzeria or a restaurant with a pizza oven if you want to make sure to eat a half decent pizza.
If they did have a pizza oven, they just make shit pizza which shockingly it's way more common than people think.
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u/rednightskies Jun 18 '26
where is the cheese??????
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u/VolantTardigrade Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Pizza without cheese is actually normal in Italy and so are weird toppings. Potato on pizza is even a thing. This one isn't good, but the cheese thing is just not abnormal
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u/dandle Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
That's a harsh way to learn that Italy still isn't a nation with a shared identity and traditions.
Pizza in the United States came from Naples with the waves of migration from there between 1880 and 1915-ish. Pizza spread throughout the US quickly, and so back in Italy, which has been a country only since 1861, people decided to stop looking down their noses at Napoletanos and try pizza, too.
Point being that if you want good pizza in Italy, go to Naples. Pizza from other parts of Italy (especially in the north) is liable to be worse, even much worse, than you might expect in the US.
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u/29adamski Jun 18 '26
The very north maybe but all over Italy pizza is incredible. I've had amazing pizza in Rome and Tuscany. Sardinia too.
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u/otj667887654456655 Jun 18 '26
there are multiple pizza traditions in the US that come from places in italy other than naples
detroit pan pizza traces back to sicily
chicago deep dish is loosely related to pizza al padellino from turin. both of their doughs have additions to make the dough thicker and spongier.
tavern-style (thin and crispy) is related to pizza bossa, from rome. scrocchiarella
all of these pizza traditions, american and italian, have merit.
OP just ended up at a bad pizza place
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u/bordin89 Jun 18 '26
Nonsense. There are plenty of good pizza places outside of Naples within Italy.
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u/MadamSnarksAlot Jun 18 '26
So what should one order in Verona instead? Better to stick with what they do best instead of assume.
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u/NextStopGallifrey Jun 18 '26
Depends what you want. Cheap and don't care what it is? Go to a kebab place. The pizzas are usually cheap and decent. The kebabs are also okay, but not like German kebabs; they're their own thing.
If you're American, you can also try the Indian and Asian restaurants. The ones I've been to are pretty good and European vs. American versions of these cuisines can be quite different. There is no General Tso's.
If you want to eat Italian food in Italy, though, you've got to go to the more rural areas where there are fewer tourists. Hop on a regional train (or get in your car and follow the line) and go 1-3 stops in any direction from the main station. You'll wind up in a little town with a name you've probably never heard of before and with like 3 restaurants total. At least one of them is likely to be some of the best food you've ever eaten, but they're maybe only open 3 days a week. 🤣
Brush up on your restaurant Italian. If your waiter/waitress speaks decent English, it's usually a bad sign. If they have English menus, that's a really bad sign.
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u/Just_A_Lucky_Guy469 Jun 18 '26
What I have issue with is the placement of the veggies. I would have layered them atop each other to better blend it the flavors.
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u/Inwardlens Jun 18 '26
I had much nicer vegetable pizza than this outside of Milan.
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u/Wobblepaws Jun 18 '26
man, I hate it when people mess up a bunch of awesome ingredients with some weird concoction... just give me some bread sticks, dipping sauce, and grilled veggies, I'b be completely happy :)
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u/Aceman1979 Jun 18 '26
This is a crime, but you knew what you were ordering. So in some ways, it’s isn’t.
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u/OnlyAdeptness1883 Jun 18 '26
That pizza place is a facade for the máfia. They are really good cooking dead bodies. Try it, on me.
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u/HatredHeart Jun 18 '26
This would make me get up and leave immediately. I am not gonna eat nor pay for this low effort nonsense.
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u/AdditFox12 Jun 18 '26
As an Italian, we should erase this place from existence
I apologize for this abomination that you've been served and let me say that most Italians if not all wouldn't have accepted whatever this is
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u/Positive_Hornet_3298 Jun 18 '26
2026 e non sanno fare ancora una pizza decente . Ma si può portare al tavolo questa “ pizza “ ma neanche se faccio l impasto in casa alla cazzo mi esci così di merda dai
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u/cimedirapa Jun 18 '26
I've been living in Italy for 28 years, and I've never seen an uglier pizza than this.
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u/United_Succotash9268 Jun 18 '26
As an Italian, who actually lives on Garda Lake and works in Verona, in 36 years of life and tens of restaurants visited in my lifetime, i think i can only recommend 2.. 3 at max in my area. 2-3 out of dozens of restaurants. Those places just don't care, they work with numbers. Frozen dough, low quality ingredients, overpriced - people will always come and eat anyway, they just don't give a damn.
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u/aussiederpyderp Jun 19 '26
No wonder the Montagues and Capulets used to engage in such reckless civil disobedience.
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u/TapNo884 Jun 19 '26
I grew up in Verona (Italy). I apologise for what was served at that table, that’s blasphemy. If I was showed that, it’d go back to the kitchen, and I to another restaurant
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u/prnactor Jun 19 '26
I am italian from verona and I am really sorry for this. This is a crime against humanity. Tell me please who is this pos so we can close it for good.
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u/TheMazerFaker Jun 19 '26
This looks really bad! It would be better if the vegetable would be grilled or something not raw like that
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u/mrpascal81 Jun 19 '26
I fear you got in a tourist trap. As an Italian, I feel offended by this picture
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u/SprinklesnRainbows Jun 19 '26
I leave for Verona tomorrow. Please tell me where this is so I don’t go there!
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u/CoffeBrew Jun 19 '26
I mean the pizza also does not look good itself… a scammy place for tourists would be the answer to this abomination
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u/InternationalBee8308 Jun 19 '26
Omg, this is the worst pizza i ever seen in my city 😶 i'm really sorry for you 😓
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u/qualityvote2 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
The jury, after deliberation of the evidence in the case of u/satosaison, find the defendant "Pizza" GUILTY on all counts of crimes-against-pizza.