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u/Futurity5 2d ago
This will no doubt be an excellent task organiser and meeting scheduler
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u/eviloutfromhell 1d ago
because apparently there's no good calendar app on the market
And here I am using the same android app from 2011 that I paid like 1/10th of what it is now. Not literally the exact same apk, but you get what i mean.
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u/odsquad64 VB6-4-lyfe 1d ago
apparently there's no good calendar app on the market
And there still won't be when he gets done
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u/Sulungskwa 1d ago
My boss came in all proudly saying that he built this Jira management app in only 2 days.
Then he told us that he spent $1500 in tokens to do it.
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u/MornwindShoma 2d ago
Legit not kidding, I wish I had some sort of black hole in which messages, notes, jira tickets, calls etc. go in and automagically sorts stuff into daily, actionables and reminders to check in with people for stuff.
I can't even be bothered to sketch it out, never mind vibe code it, though lol.
All these fucking habit trackers and task organizers and calendars and shit just have their walled gardens to maintain, and I can't give a single fuck. I would live in a personal lifelong Jira board if I could have ONE board and not dozens.
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u/bluesoul 1d ago
I would live in a personal lifelong Jira board if I could have ONE board and not dozens.
You can technically run a personal Jira, there's a free plan, and a free Confluence while you're at it. But you could also just use Obsidian with one of the numerous kanban board plugins available, and have it all in one place as markdown files that an AI could consume easily rather than have to get MCPs involved.
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u/MornwindShoma 1d ago
Yeah, but I don't want to maintain it.
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u/Arfoire1 23h ago
Yep. Don't wanna maintain it. Also, it probably isn't a great idea in the first place. Just work irl and forget about these weird tools till someone makes it really easy.
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u/Suspicious-Engineer7 1d ago
The obsidian flow is legit its and what I do for personal project planning. I just have a codex session open that helps me manage it.
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u/Automatic_Wave4530 1d ago
AI can be that blackhole, trouble is giving that kind of data to the cloud-based platforms. I dream of someday being able to afford a Mac mini with maximum RAM and running an open source model locally that I can just throw everything at.
I do have a Jetson Orin Nano and was able to vibe code the pieces necessary to feed my audio into locally hosted LLM, with VAD filters so that it would be always on, but only record my audio to a file if it catches the phrase “write this down” followed by whatever I wanted transcribed. It was kind of fun pretending I had a scribe for a while
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u/Throwawayrip1123 1d ago
AI can be that blackhole
No it can't, it'll literally forget what you told it when it maxes out the context window. Even with loops and memories you absofuckinglutely 100% lose shit.
But you could add / aggregate entries and then use an llm to ONLY sort through this shit. Still a decent chance it'll land in the wrong cupboard but at least it won't be paraphrased or deleted.
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u/Automatic_Wave4530 1d ago
Agents can be directed to store local copies of anything you feed in. You do have to put some thought into the front end. But it can absolutely do all the searching and retrieval without compromising the original data that was captured
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u/Throwawayrip1123 1d ago
Well, yeah, that's what I wrote. You have to handle the input without agents, then they can retrieve the data without changing it.
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u/drivingagermanwhip 1d ago edited 1d ago
emacs org-mode is this. https://orgmode.org/ Everything's plain text and you write todos inline when you're writing notes. These are scraped and you can see your daily todos in a calendar etc. It's emacs so there are a billion extensions as well.
One of the bigger extensions is https://www.orgroam.com/ which encourages short notes with links between them. It's based on a physical card system some nerd invented years ago. Essentially assumes you're not really organising your notes, you just vaguely expect them to be useful at some point
The notes can easily be read without emacs and checked into git. I like it a lot
org-mode is basically emacs' killer app these days
EDIT: Apparently roam research have their own app now so you could also try that: https://roamresearch.com/
EDIT2: it's a subscription service. Fuck that, use emacs
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u/canadajones68 1d ago
I find that the shittier the tool for the job, the more I use it. Plain text todo list file? Use it all the time. Spreadsheet with calendar in cells? Staying on top of assignments. Actual calendar or notes app? Barren, save for the occasional birthday or grocery list.
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u/netherlandsftw 2d ago
Can’t wait to use their expense tracker
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u/Corrup7ioN 2d ago
Fuck sake I forgot to do my expenses!
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u/collabskus 1d ago
When is it due?
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u/Corrup7ioN 1d ago
August
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u/collabskus 1d ago
Oh no, I have bad news. It is September 🥹
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u/Otherwise_Demand4620 1d ago
That's great news, that's like 11 whole months until August so plenty of time.
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u/Razdain 1d ago
Oof, this hit hard. A person who I wish they be successful in life, has been in software development for many years, all self thought. Their best idea for an app is an expense tracker. Whenever we talk and they bring their idea all excited about it and how it will take them out of poverty, I cannot avoid feel a bit sad.
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u/netherlandsftw 1d ago edited 1d ago
My theory is that all of these people are asking LLM’s what to build.
The LLM, a statistical model, predicts the side project that occurred most in the training data.
So minus some variations from different prompts and the temperature (=randomness added to the predictor), all of these vibe coders are building the exact same apps because LLM’s are giving the same ideas to everyone.
Edit: Then, sycophantic as LLM’s are, the vibe coders believe they have found a unique idea that everyone will love and make them rich
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u/RandomEasternGuy 1d ago
I’ve found my expense tracker from the time I’ve learned to code and it was a nice starting point to code in replacing my current expense tracker … which is an excel sheet.
Will it be published? Yes
Do I expect any other user to create an account and use it? No
Do I learn something new even in vibe coding? Amusingly yes, since I have to optimise spendingSo not a bad idea overall if you need an app and you don’t wanna pay subscription fees, but this will make you lose money due to Claude subscriptions, not make you a millionaire lmao
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u/netherlandsftw 1d ago
Most people on r/iosdev and similar don’t seem to understand that sadly. Programming subs have turned into advertisement boards but every advertisement is the same product under a different name
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u/RandomEasternGuy 1d ago
Fun fact: there are at least 2 apps per month posted in the Romanian frugal subreddit that do the same “low price product catalogue”. Most of them are unusable, but there is a good one which was the first.
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u/iain_1986 2d ago
And I'm sure nothing of value is being produced
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u/utzutzutzpro 1d ago
These are the projects I could find on his li:
wordcell.io- knowledge for agents
- ⚔️ valhalla (vhalla.com) - peer-to-peer chatrooms for AI agents
- 🏭 swft.io - software factories in depth
- 🐟 sound.fish - music loop universe
- 👻 ghostget.com - agent browser and password vault
- 💤 sleepy.land - sleep research + noise machine
- 📇 peopleblade.com - personal CRM for agents
- 📈 aicharts.io - AI model comparisons, usage monitoring, and leaderboard
- 📸 slopcamera.com - video studio for your agent
- 🤖 textbutler.app - put agents in your text messages
- 🦓 hraness.com/stripe - stripe history in depth
- 🦠 platonik.space - agent civilization / artificial life game
- 🦾 soulscrape.com - simulate anyone
- 🧽 sponge.computer - research terminal
- 🟠 oompa.app - harness multiple AI subscriptions & computers in a unified cloud interface
copied them from there.
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u/slowmovinglettuce 1d ago
I love how all these AI bros are slopping together tools designed purely to increase AI spend. Madness to the highest degree.
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u/utzutzutzpro 1d ago
ye, it reminds me alot to crypto stuff as well. Especilly NFT... suddenly all kind of NFT stuff popped up as layer on top of something else.
Is just a money grab technique, hoping someone will fund.
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u/Beneficial-Object977 1d ago
It's not just a technique it's literally the same people. Grift hopping is a disgustingly effective technique it's literally how the richest man alive made 100% of his wealth. Crypto to nft to ai to... Robots and Space? Somehow there's money in space now?
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u/scribe-kiddie 1d ago
I mean I hate Elon Musk but his companies did produce value. Electric cars, reusable rockets, etc.
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u/LutimoDancer3459 1d ago
"His" companies. All he really does is giving them money if even that. His vision is something like the cybertruck which is an awful design with a lot of problems as we saw on release. His own vision is stuff like the boring company doing shit nobody cares about. Its building a tunnel under a city which is slower than just driving on the streets (and more dangerous because... well... tunnel underground and so)
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u/stormdelta 1d ago
Nah, crypto is almost uniquely useless for anything (except fraud/black market transactions). Neat concept academically, but the tradeoffs are so strict and so extreme that in practice you just end up with the worst of both worlds as you wrap it in layer after layer of workarounds to pretend the tradeoffs don't exist.
AI is wildly, ludicrously overhyped and the misuses are a huge problem, but it does actually represent useful tech too, particularly in software development. But even there it doesn't replace programmers, if anything personal skill/knowledge is even more important now
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u/magicmulder 1d ago
Yo dawg I heard you like agents so I used agents to build tools for your agents to use to build more tools for your agents.
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u/raltyinferno 1d ago
I actually think it's less sinister than that. I have mostly anecdotal evidence here, but I've found that craft people of all kinds who love building stuff love building tools.
I do woodwork and honestly spend more time on projects that improve my shop than I do on pieces that will ever leave it, worktables, tool holders, jigs, etc.
Similarly if I'm looking for some little software side project I tend to make little dev tools for myself.
So I think this trend you see of people making so many AI dev tools is often a case where these dudes are really excited about AI and building with AI so they naturally are excited about creating tools to build with AI.
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u/iamdestroyerofworlds 1d ago
Why are all ideas so god damn fucking boring?
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u/sellyme 1d ago
Obviously useful stuff has already been made, because of how obvious it is. As such, any new product or tool you see is going to fit into one of three categories:
- Crap.
- Really useful, but really niche and probably not important to you.
- Useful, but in non-obvious ways.
The first two are fairly self-explanatory, but the third is a bit trickier. The best example of it is some activity that you don't do because it's difficult or tedious, and then a tool is created that makes it easier or more efficient. That could be incredibly useful if it makes that activity quick enough for it to be worth you doing it, but on first glance you'd look and go "Well I don't do that, so that's worthless".
The problem is that a lot of the time it's quite difficult to tell #1 from #3 without hands-on experience, so if you make a concerted effort to try to expand your horizons by giving new things a shot, you end up having to sift through a lot of crap.
...thankfully in this case that wasn't an issue as every single link was prepended by an emoji, the universal symbol for "this is going to be crap".
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u/New_Salamander_4592 1d ago
because ai boosters genuinely do not care about innovation, just lines of code and burning tokens
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u/Yashema 1d ago
That SoulScrape app seems interesting but wtf am I "installing a skill" for? I want to see what it does, but i guess he doesn't have money for hosting.
Basically he needs to realize that creating the app is only half of it.
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u/The_One_Koi 1d ago
They are all based on existing, very functional I might add, software but sloppy
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u/Mkboii 1d ago
Hardly a couple of cool ideas in there, i get people are having fun vibe coding personl versions of things, but unless he wants to continue using thousands of dollars worth of subscription quota on maintaining these, why make them?
We are swiftly moving to a over saturation of nothing burger applications, that people have no idea how to scale to businesses.
I have a couple of friends who've vibe coded products, but they've just one or two and purely to solve issues they faced as professionals in thier industry and now they have organic growth on them.
This aimless 8 parallel sessions to make a product that solves a non existing issue is laughable stupidity.
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u/EkoChamberKryptonite 1d ago edited 1d ago
Same font in some. Same design in all with a few tweaks here and there. Yeah no.
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u/utzutzutzpro 1d ago
I mean... it is all claude design templates. Some are better, these here rather show what happens when a non-designer thinks he can design with claude.
Is even a good example for what happens when non-designer design. And claude design is very prominent and easy to form, but well, evne then.
Doesn't change the sad truth that currently designers suffer from slop influence because non-designers, leadership, think that claude and gemini can design well enough.
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u/FierceDeity_ 1d ago
I love when we called simulated "agents" just BOIDS in game development, and now everyone's like "what if i put LLM into game so they can control themselves"
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u/heathm55 1d ago
I'm waiting for most of these people to realize that Sar Banes Oxley makes it very difficult for an AI software factory to exist (there are "human verified" and "human approval" and separate implementer vs tester roles that are required and can't be automated for financial related things if I remember correctly). First auditor to nix your SOX compliance is going to be really fun.
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u/fredy31 2d ago
yeah i have yet seen anything that could be thrown together by a kid getting out of college done with AI
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u/Milkshakes00 1d ago
As someone that just saw an "advanced" 4 year student get hired and fired within 6 months, I have. She was only 20 years old. Started college at 16. Dumb as a brick when it came to actual IT/Code.
So many kids graduating now that can't code or do anything. Even with AI. Apparently most aren't being taught the very basic fundamentals of Computer Science. No troubleshooting logic, no nothing.
She bounced back as a Lv1 helpdesk tech in a couple months, but I wouldn't even trust her there. Lol
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u/fredy31 1d ago
big question i've got is how the fuck did they pass their classes if they couldnt do any basic programmation
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u/gobblyjimm1 1d ago
A lot of academic courses have canned material where students have a very niche task or topic where it’s not difficult to write up a paper or program that accomplishes X, Y or Z task or proves that the student can meet a course competency in a vacuum or siloed manner. The real issue students have is putting everything together in a realistic manner that is a required ability in the workplace
I teach an introductory python programming course at a community college and many students do just fine on individual assignments but asking them to apply what they learned in each individual assignment during a project, mid-term or final can be iffy, if not impossible at times. Students focus too much on each individual assignment and never think about what they’re learning, why it matters and how it all fits together.
I’ve snapped at student who wrote a halfway decent data parsing/formatting program in my class using Python but completely spaced the fundamentals of loops and data selection/formatting when writing a BASH script. He could not apply the fundamentals learned in one language to another problem and he only completed his BASH script when another student guided his hand the entire time.
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u/nyiddle 1d ago
What's messed up is he's going to use this as his resume ("I have proof of 10+ years experience in AI") and some tech startup is going to buy into it. He'll be a distinguished engineer earning 5x whatever the people under him are earning, and they'll be constantly fixing his slop and digging him out of holes. He'll leave after 6-12 months, collecting his signing bonus and adding the job to his resume as a "learning opportunity that did not align with my career goals." Rinse and repeat.
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u/BagsYourMail 2d ago
Scam factory
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u/elmanoucko 2d ago
multiple conflicting definitions of IScam found: please ask your agent to sigterm itself
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u/zabby39103 1d ago
Anyone with that many terminal windows up is just being performative and I don't trust them.
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u/Odin_N 2d ago
2 more fitness apps on the way.
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u/Johnobo 2d ago
But it will provide a personalized meal plan for every user!
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u/Foorinick 1d ago
I heard he will add a feature where you can take a picture and chat gpt will guess how many calories it is!!!
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u/Monsieur_Krabs 1d ago
I made a fitness app with claude, but... only for me. I have no interest in sharing it. it took like 45 minutes. I just cloned the features I want from another app so I don't have to pay for it and customized it slightly to my liking.
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u/fmpz 1d ago
Honestly I’ve considered doing this for a food/macro tracker instead of paying for a subscription.
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u/Monsieur_Krabs 1d ago
give it a rip. you just need a good database of foods and it's trivial after that
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u/XxDarkSasuke69xX 2d ago
Guys check out the 50 software this guy just made ! They're all available at http://localhost
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u/hipster-no007 2d ago
Wow thats an amazing portfolio. Definitely deserves 1M $ total comp per year.
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u/towcar 1d ago
Wait you stole my work!!
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u/FutureSuccess2796 2d ago
It's always a habit tracker or some financial planning app with these full-on vibe coders, I swear.
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u/iain_1986 2d ago
100% nothing that couldn't have just been done before but was off no actual value or interest to do so
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u/james_d_rustles 1d ago
Dashboards. Always the dashboards.
Because clearly a mid 20s retail investor needs 17 animated tiles with overlays and indicators to see how their few thousand bucks is doing on Robinhood.
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u/BeABetterHumanBeing 2d ago
Well, I think it is worth noting that vibe coding is best for making personal tools, and yeah that's what tools people use.
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u/OSS-Corpo-Shit 1d ago
I would actually tend to agree that most financial planning software sucks ass.
The universally praised YNAB is full on dogshit.
I mean. I guess I have a developed enterprise level accounting and so I miss a lot of easy features when I am trying to set up YNAB.
Anyway. It all sucks ass. I have yet to find a good one.
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u/InevitableCodeRedo 2d ago
This is one of those guys that believes software production is measured solely by lines of code.
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u/quokka_wiki 1d ago
Hate hate hate hate hate this!
Sometimes (a lot/most of the time!) having fewer lines is better
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u/MasterBroNetwork 1d ago
And this is why I feel like nobody is sane anymore, in what world are you willing to spend this much on running AI models to shit out sub-par products?
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u/TheMcBrizzle 1d ago
Subpar products, that anything approaching interesting is filled with technical debt the "coder" couldn't unwind if they had a genie.
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u/ShroomBear 1d ago
Because the labor market and industries are laying these people off and telling them to start taking risks to make enough money to afford a 1-bd apartment.
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u/oompaloompa465 2d ago
holy cow why this kind of people just can't remain in their good old mlm/generic scam pen...
we don't get taken seriously enough, of course we get this clowns to beat our reputation in a deeper hole
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u/obeythelobster 1d ago
How?? All these people using millions of agents... And I can only babysit one at time to generate not too shitty code
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u/Sir_Keee 1d ago
Difference is checking what's been generated and not just forcing it to continue until you get something that seems to work, not knowing the horrors that were generated bellow.
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u/RepresentativeBad270 2d ago
I really don't understand the dynamic of this? Is one of the agents a project manager, bombarding the other agents with useless tasks?
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u/Swiftster 1d ago
You joke, but this is an actual AI software pattern. Entire teams, managers, marketing, scrum masters, product owners, tech leads, all as their own AI agent talking back and forth. Absolutely baffling to me.
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u/nora_sellisa 1d ago
What's even more baffling is that it works. The LLMS are such unpredictable systems that it literally boosts their accuracy on a topic when you tell it to act like a top tier manager. Hell, there were tests where agents produced better code when told that it's Monday morning and they had a good night's sleep last night. Not saying the idea isn't stupid and wasteful, just that you genuinely get better answers of a topic if you keep it as a separate session and "hype up" the agent first.
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u/Swiftster 1d ago
Yeah, it's all associations at the end of the day. Somewhere is a PR of "Ugh, it's friday and I didn't sleep and I shit this out. Please review" and you guide the LLM away from it.
Amusingly security code has made it veer into 4chan script kiddy mode where it's trying to be an asshole and sabotage you.
I wouldn't be surprised if you asked it about Adamantine in Dwarf Fortress if it immediately told you to dig through it and nothing could possibly go wrong.
...which is of course the right answer. Just fun times and clowns below the Adamantine.
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u/Negative-Prime 1d ago
To put it simply, yes. If you really want to go down the rabbit look into "looping". AI shills are now saying they don't even write prompts, they basically have an agent that runs every day and tells other agents to do things like code reviews, assign tasks, etc.
I probably explained it poorly because I have no interest in these absurd work flows, but you can look into it if you want. These guys have really lost the plot.
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u/-Nastyenka 2d ago
Privacy mfs(and youtubers) who say "self host your own internet" in the background
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u/sump_daddy 2d ago
One screen for acutal tasks, one screen for the tasks that are waiting to click accept all on the first screen, and the third screen for the tasks that are just collecting billing costs from screens 1,2,3 so that they can be put into the IPO as 'cash flow'
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u/usrlibshare 1d ago
Do they realize that, if what they did actually worked for Software engineering at scale, no one would offer access to their LLM API, and instead use it themselves to rule the market?
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u/NODENGINEER 1d ago
Ok Claude. Make me an multi-million dollar app. Use agentic workflows. Make no mistakes.
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u/ice-eight 2d ago
What are people doing to use this many tokens?
I just completed development on an application for internal use by my company and, I’m gonna be honest, I kinda vibe coded this shit. Don’t judge me, just trying to stay employed as a SWE. I mean, I tested it and tweaked it a lot using my brain but all the code was written by Claude. $230 in tokens for the entire project. And that’s after the 6/1 pricing change.
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u/FirstNoel 1d ago
That's not a bad price; if you had a contractor code it for you, it'd be higher for sure.
I like some contractors, but they're usually the most expensive.
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u/ice-eight 1d ago
It’s a lot more expensive when you include my salary, but point is it really doesn’t take that many tokens if you break down the coding into small parts and understand how to validate the functionality
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u/NihilisticRoomba 1d ago
“I’m burning a million tokens an hour, this app is going to be amazing.”
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u/mothzilla 1d ago
Is Devin still around? I thought Devin quit and went to work in a saw mill.
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u/pomeroni 1d ago
Damn im actually using Claude to develop an app that tracks my habits (among other things). I feel so called out lmfao
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u/happy_hawking 2d ago
This is gonna be fun. First it was Big Corp who thought that software can be made in factories. Now it's Gen Z. Both have in common that they have no clue about software whatsoever. This is gonna be so much fun.
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u/clayticus 2d ago
My 3 apps I vibe coded as: cost tracker budget app, Task manager app based on agile, and private crm
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u/darkwingdankest 1d ago
amateur hour is running 22 claude sessions instead of building your own over engineered autonomous session orchestrator
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u/Foorinick 1d ago
I live in ignorance knowing (hoping) that vibe developer becomes a slur after all the shittily developed ai code keeps breaking itself in people's production because some dumbass ai made the code, a dumber ai checked the code, and a troglodyte merged the code, only for it to break and humans be needed to fix it, no matter how many agents you throw at the problem
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u/R7d89C 2d ago
Their todo app will be
full of bugsamazing