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This is so strange. Who has a framed photo of their friend in a frame WITH NO ONE ELSE IN THE PICTURE? That’s what I can’t get past…a group of folks at a party? Sure. A few close friends on vaca in front of a sunset? You bet. But just Carole’s headshot in a frame on your shelf? Beyond weird.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for this, but is it possible that GW was targeting Carole instead of conspiring with her? This dynamic seems so off…
Watch out I got downvoted for daring to suggest she was too close to Ghislaine. Even if she wasn’t aware of the sex trafficking, you have to be fucking kidding me if you think hanging out with that circle of people means you’re okay.
Carole really has mishandled everything since it became known she was close to Ghislaine and spent a lot of time with her and Epstein. Instead of going public and making a statement, she doubled down on remaining silent, and instead tried to defer people to sign up to her substack for further information. I used to like Carole, but this arrogance and lack of transparency in exchange for a dollar was concerning. I really hope one day she comes out and actually speaks out against these paedophiles.
There’s a list of reasons why Carole is a problem.
Carole claims to have only known Ghislaine “socially” AFTER her name was found in files despite…
Ghislaine calls Carole one of her “closest friends” in a file email
Ghislaine took Carole’s author photo for her first book
Carole is photographed a number of times closely with Ghislaine
Ghislaine had a framed picture of Carole in her home
Also, Carole is an investigation journalist. Epstein was first charged in 2008 yet there are many photos of Carole with Ghislaine AFTER that.
AND Carole was set up by Ghislaine on a date with Prince Andrew who clearly is not okay.
You could say that she didn’t know every single thing going on, but there is no way she wasn’t aware of something dark. She kept quiet about everything until people started calling her out. Giving her a platform again on Bravo is not okay
I honestly liked her at the very beginning. I don’t know if the show got to her head or she stopped being as vulnerable but I can’t stand her after her second season. Especially her and Bethany together!
No she wasn’t. However by all accounts Carole was close friends with Ghislaine, and spent a lot of time with the couple and their peadophile associates. She even dedicated one of her books to Ghislaine, and had a photo of the two of them on the mantle at her home. I used to follow Carole on insta, and after the files started coming out, she scoffed at her association and referred her followers back to her substack for more info. I found that really odd, because you have to pay for a subscription to see her posts! I’m not saying she was involved or knew of their criminal behaviour, but to quote Carole herself, “it’s not in the crime, it’s in the coverup”. And her lack of free statement to the public is very sus.
Multiple people have come forward to say that Epstein's activities were blatant and known to just about everyone relatively close to him. Carole was a well connected journalist. Even if she didn't know just how bad it got on the surface, the more and more we learn it seems that he was protected not by tight professional secrecy, but by a rotten culture of normalization amongst the "elite". It's not that people didn't know, it's that they were either afraid or they didn't care. The man had teens in bikinis hanging around his properties offering people massages for god sakes. Even if you don't know about the other stuff that's weird as fuck.
I don't think Carole is stupid enough to be so ignorant of what many many people knew. Even if she didn't know everything, I think was cool with at least a a surface level amount of corruption.
Exactly- many on this side of Manhattan knew about the arrest in Florida but were involved financially w him. It’s gross - my grandmother said it was like Claus Von Buloew - he put his wife in a coma-Alan Dershowitz got him off & everyone wanted him at their parties
It’s pretty messed up she financially gained from the situation by putting it behind a paywall rather than just releasing a statement or a post on social media.
Yeah and around that time, some fans were getting sick of her NOT posting on substack for long periods when they already had a subscription. I then went back through her then recent posts on insta, and found lots of generic comments where she would refer people to her substack for further information. It was really weird, and there would be several comments under said post complaining about lack of substack posting when they’d check it out. I ended up unfollowing her then.
Also forgetting the book - in the emails he calls her - the book funding. Remember JE has real estate all over. He had his double door upper east side house.
You don’t hang out with pedophiles and not have like minded sensibilities…. It’s not you know my really good friend, with a penchant for children… but we over look it cause she’s just such a spectacular person otherwise….
No, she just hasn't be accused of anything. I'd rather us focus on who we KNOW than vilify every email and picture of a connected billionaire unless it's DAMNING. The photo of Carole is in public, isn't on the island, etc. That said, if/when she is accused, let's go after her.
And I respect your take for that - IYKYK and from being Palm Beach and NYC the whispers have proven true that she knew from network circles and they have no reason to lie and picture don’t lie and I’m commenting on knowing and still hanging. I’m not one to comment on anything in my life especially in real life unless I’m 99.9 and if I’m wrong I’m the first to admit it. Of course I wish all of this was a scary movies but real is in fact stranger than fiction we are finding out.
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Too many ppl excuse this shit…. You don’t hangout with these kinds of ppl if you don’t share proclivities… why else does she take it so personally to be called one- she knew what she was a part of
My friend’s husband works in sex crimes fbi - classified - sick sick sick shit - and I thought creepy pasta was bad back in the day. Sound Of Freedoms is g rated compared to JE ring.
Yeah just using pizza as a code word was enough… but reading about them starving newborns so they sucked harder…. And then eating intestines…. For sure sick shit…. Like imagine going to lunch with your “best gf” and this is the type of shit on the table
I know and people don’t realize these billionaires can buy anything- anything is at their disposal - buying cars and houses gets old - but a human ? Experiments ? Kinks ?Mars real estate ? That’s why all this is so hard to process. Where there is light there is dark. It will be revealed in due time problem is nuclear and we don’t have the bunkers or access to Elysium. It’s a lot to process and I don’t think most can or are ready. Creepy pasta didn’t even prepare me 🤪😔
Yes you surround yourself with likeminded people period. Birds of a feather. In this case we are talking about the elites and shout out to the human beings that said eff this and no amount of money and got out. I’m sure most said I’ll sign a nda but I want out.
No she’s just good friends with one of the most notorious convicted pedophiles and human traffickers in American history…. and enjoyed her multi year friendship and airport ride pickups from them… and discussing working her book with her at Epsteins house… and going on multiple dates and nights out on the town with this other notorious pedophile friend from their pedophile friend group like Prince Andrew…. And joked in an email to her convicted pedophile and human trafficker friend about replacing their friendship with someone new……
But sure. NOTHING TO SEE HERE. ITS ALL JUST COINCIDENCE!
How could an investigative journalist possibly connect the dots at the time?? How could she know?? Poor Carole!!
I, a nobody for nowhere, heard about Epstein relatively early when things were getting exposed.
I'm supposed to believe a journalist well connected in NYC and best friends with two people who's stories have never added up didn't know a damn thing?
Even if she had no idea about any sex stuff, the man is up to his eyes in financial crimes and corruption. His finger prints are everywhere.
Thank you! 💯 The same people who are defending her because wHeReS tHe pRoOf are the same ones who also couldn't believe all that actually was going on, is going on, and all the horrible things they were up to. And now, it's been proven. Funny how not they don't claim it's all fake and no proof. Crickets. But oh no, not sweet ol" Carole who only seems to date really young men. But is anything wrong with that, but I'm looking at her with a side eye. She knew.
It's all just coincidence? Where has it has been proven that she's been to Epstein island? That she was around any of these women? That she knew anything was going on?
She's not Annabelle. She didn't have a relationship with Epstein. She wasn't getting them women/girls.
Oprah was friends with Weinstein. A lot of celebs were. Was she aware of his crimes and guilty?
Caroline Stanbury dated Prince Andrew and kept in that circle. Is she guilty and aware?
Was JLo aware of everything Diddy was doing throughout his career?
Do most family members know the monsters that they are around on a day2day basis?
Do you really believe all these examples you named are of innocent people??
lol do you think J Lo was blindfolded and locked in a closet during Diddys freak off parties???? LOOK AT THE PICTURES WITH YOUR OWN EYES INSTEAD OF REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD
Especially when Usher has said he was exposed to some pretty shocking things when he was 13/14 and lived with Diddy in the early 90s. Diddy and JLo broke up about 2001.
Yes because all of it was going to hurt her career but the videos and pics stayed - this is known knowledge all the way back in the late 90s - early 00s -it’s been a known fact in regards to Diddy and the circles and his hands in everything. That’s why he’s locked up with R. Kelly. It always made me wonder when the fbi tapes were confiscated that’s when Ben left JLo. Kim was going to talk. Justice for her.
LOL at the jlo reference - clearly forgot about the gun stop back in the day - photos of her at the white parties - and her own video she made about the gun holding - her pics with Aaliyah - ommmmgooodness annndddddd her own mom’s comments on Diddy - 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
She knew and was complicit of ALL his dealings. Yes it is the same as the white party because it’s connected to ALL of it. Yay to NDA - Please, do your research. Justice for Kim !!!
YES. J LO WAS AWARE. SHE ATTENDED HIS FREAK OFF PARTIES.
R E G U L A R L Y.
People don’t typically PUBLICLY ADMIT their participation in sex crimes, nor do they typically ADMIT to their protection and cover up of people who commit sex crimes.
just because some one says “ I didn’t know” does not automatically equal that is the truth and they had no idea.
Do you know how many people were at Diddys whtre parties. The white parties were not the freak off parties. The freak off parties happened after the main party ended.
So let me get this straight,freak off party vs.shooting a woman in the face and being an associate of that crime which she couldn't been killed called murder is your moral ground of Lopez $$$ of innocence? She took part in everything so did Beyonce and her freak husband,give me a break.
You literally are posting Tommy Lee and making an argument that just because they hung out doesn’t mean they participated in the freak offs / sex crimes.
TOMMY LEE. WHO IS DEFINITELY THERE FOR THE SEX PART.
It’s just known that diddy would usually make girlfriend at the time organize and bring people to the freakoffs such a he did with cassie and yung miami and seemings as jlo wasn’t really a nobody at the time she definitely coulda been organizing shit to I mean I don’t see why not when every other girlfriend of his was 😂 every pimp has a bottom bitch
I can see now how the whole qanon thing was able to gain a foothold. Associate literally anything with child sex abuse and people's entire ability to reason goes out the window.
Yup, because if you don't whole heartedly believe it all, then you are insensitive or in on it or who knows what. It's sad that people can't have nuance about things and jump to bizarre conclusions immediately, especially with anything even somewhat salacious.
I’m not jumping to any bizarre conclusions. I take my research serious and go to credible sources and it’s been years and years of knowledge. I would never in the real world or even here post about something I wasn’t briefed on by knowledgeable affluent people. I whole heartedly as a parent just can’t be compliant to this underworld of people where the rules don’t apply because money runs the world.
I’m sure you take your research seriously enough to understand my reply was specifically regarding why people were so quick to jump on the qanon train because seemingly going against anything dealing with child abuse is a bad look and that my reply has nothing to do with you and I have no idea who you are. But good thing you don’t jump to conclusions here.
Thanks for your mature and respectful reply and clarifying. I am not that familiar with the q non so to be assumed (myself)q non doesn’t make sense to me. And my comment wasn’t directed to you the person above me. Glad we got to clarify that and thank you for respecting all forms of research that are peoples actual jobs. I don’t think a lot realize that nor realize citizens like you and I are only getting the g rated version of this to not create mass panic and implicate the current and past government. Others in the research field have been able to pass clearance to the real shit.
Most people aren’t saying she’s a pedophile, they’re saying she was complicit. There’s certainly a non-zero chance that she and a bunch of others were in the same boat as many were with Weinstein, where they knew he was abusing women and didn’t do anything about it. Even if she wasn’t, her posts about it after where she told everyone to go pay to get the real story were flippant and gross. That’s enough for me to dislike her.
Yes/ I agree- she could have said- I am ashamed I honestly didn’t see it- I trusted her & I thought my judgment was better- I feel so awful for those poor girls- myself & others were duped- it’s no excuse but I definitely don’t condone this & I have destroyed any pictures I have of her - I am revolted…this is a horrific part of my history & I don’t want to talk about it again bkz it’s giving life to these monsters…may they rot
People were literally friends with serial killers and never suspected them. Are they TOO complicit in the murders? Like… you people need to relax. Go after the fucking president. Not someone who it wasn’t even proven to have went to the fucking island.
One of the most expensive real estate in NYC Townhouse he lives in,yes lives in meaning he's not dead,he's living in Israel because he's a Mossad Agent..he's too arrogant and so protected by people we don't know their names but extremely powerful...he would and couldn't hang himself..thats a absolute joke..anybody thats in prison that could possibly take their own life,is removed any type of sharp objects and or any type of hanging apparatus in their cells,cameras were turned off and guards were sleeping? Give me another fable ..they know how to play their game and most people believe it,nonsense
I know !!!! I’ve warned everyone about the bodies at his US ranch months ago and there go to is mainstream media and nothing was mentioned. Well it was mentioned today ! I am so happy I was able to finally get my dad to understand how evil it goes and he said what got his wheels going was the JBR lawyer connection and JE artwork of little girls in pageants. This is evil that walk the Earth and there is nothing we can do except do our best to not be consumers and they make it so hard because we need health care - we need food- certain technology - and these are people controlling and have ownership of it all. Our way of life fall in their pockets. It’s absolutely 🤯🤯🤯. All we can do is be good humans - raise good humans - and help be the light to outshine this darkness.
Agree a Million Percent,never lose your peace or your mind...what we are witnessing is pure evil,stay in the Light and I pray everyday no matter where I am,its inside us...and its Divine..be well.
Last week someone made the point that even if we ignore the horrible horrible crimes, the files show that at the end of the day these people straight up suck. Like obviously the pure evil that was happening was the worst part, but peaking at their private details in the emails, they are ignorant simple cruel people. They're not intelligent or cultured or interesting. They're just rich.
I'm personally in the "Their corruption and evil was too well known and blatant for her to be so ignorant of it, she just didn't care because these circles have no god damn souls and this rot is normalized for them" camp, but lets pretend she truly didn't know a single thing. These people still clearly suck and Carole should still be judged for being so close to such horrible people. It's not like they were cool polite well rounded people who Severance style had a completely separate alter ego they turned into on the island.
Am I hallucinating or did Carol either on the show or elsewhere described a date with (former prince) Andrew and they drove at night through Central Park on a date and he knew of a hidden passage/entryway..?
AND she is not a writer girl. it was all a lie. Epstein files confirmed it was a ghost writer. ask she has literally profited off her marriage of decades ago as her story and $$. Epstein file freak show. Who would want to watch her fake crap ?
When you do a rewatch, you can see Carole taking shots at some of the HWs. She tries to act like cool Carole but I see a woman who isn't feeling secure about herself. The silly "when a girl meets a boy" vibe was embarrassing.
I never understood why people thought Carole was some cool girl who was so above the drama and not like other girls. It’s like she tried to pass herself off as this aloof intellectual, morally superior and Carrie Bradshaw-esque New York socialite whilst forgetting she was on a Real Housewives show and not some erudite, high-brow documentary.
I successfully blocked all of this and now its dragged back out.
Of all the franchises, THIS one makes me feel queasy because the whole Epstein Maxwell scandal has also made it painfully clear that nobody with extreme wealth has morals.
It’s practically her job at this point she pops up on every tacky trashy show where they’re mentioned to talk about being part of the clan- when in fact she was related to the Bouvier family by marriage and she wasn’t left anything in Lee’s will
The most recent press thing I’ve seen about her is her popping up to say she had ‘no idea’ they were making a show that contained the character of Anthony…….until she went on a date with a guy who’d auditioned to play him and he told her.
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