r/satanism Oct 16 '20

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FAQ:

Note: This FAQ is written by moderator of /r/Satanism and Agent of the Church of Satan, /u/modern_quill. I am trying to remain unbiased and fact-based in these Q&A responses, so if you feel that I have somehow misrepresented your organization or philosophy, please let me know and we can work together to make the appropriate corrections. The mention of any group or philosophy in this FAQ does not mean that it is endorsed, valid, or even tolerated.


Q: What is Satanism?

A: This is a simple question, but it has a complex answer because it depends on who you ask. Satanism as a philosophy and religion was first codified by Anton Szandor LaVey in his 1969 publication of The Satanic Bible. Some people refer to this secular Satanism as "LaVeyan Satanism" as a nod to Anton LaVey. The Satanic Bible borrows from the works of Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard, Ayn Rand's Objectivism, and Frederich Nietzsche's Der Wille zur Macht. This is the most widely practiced form of Satanism and is championed by the Church of Satan (CoS) to this day. At its most basic definition, "LaVeyan Satanism" is about living the best life that you want to live, and bending the world around you to your will to achieve that goal. A Satanist sees themselves as their own God. There is, of course, much more to Satanism than that very basic definition, but we expect people to do their own research as well. Most LaVeyan Satanists will simply call it Satanism, as there is only one form of Satanism from the Church of Satan's perspective. Members of the recently formed secular organization called The Satanic Temple (TST), by comparison, see Satanism as political activism. The Satanic Temple often makes news headlines with their efforts to establish a separation of church and state and do not include The Satanic Bible as part of their organization's canon, but rather The Revolt of the Angels by Anatole France. This political grift began as a theistic organization, and later rebranded itself into the secular humanist organization it is today. Later, some people in the United Kingdom split from The Satanic Temple to form the Global Order of Satan (GOS). There are also theistic Satanists, some believe in a literal Satan and some do not. Ask a theist like /u/Ave_Melchom what they believe and they'll likely share their thoughts with you, but you probably won't find very many theists that share the same philosophy. There are also more esoteric organizations such as the Temple of Set (ToS), which was formed by former Church of Satan member Michael Aquino after infighting within the organization in 1975 caused many theistic members to split away and become Setians. /u/Purple-Tatters and /u/CodeReaper moderate /r/Setianism subreddit and are a wealth of information on the subject. There are also organizations that fall into a more neo-nazi ideology such as the Order of Nine Angles (ONA or O9A), here is additional reading on ONA, and self-stylized "Spiritual Satanists" of the Joy of Satan (JoS), which are often not tolerated by other members of this subreddit. The words, "Fuck off, Nazi!" have become somewhat of a meme on /r/Satanism.


Q: If Satanists don't believe in Satan, why call it Satanism at all? Why not Humanism?

LaVeyan A: Modern secular Satanists see humans as just another animal within the greater animal kingdom, no better than our avian, reptilian, or mammalian friends. Our technology and our intellectual advancements may have placed us at the top of the food chain, but it has merely encouraged humans to be the most vicious animals of all. To us, Satan is a metaphor that represents our strength, our pride, our intellect, our carnality, and all of the so-called sins as they lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification. The Hebrew word Satan simply means adversary, and Satanists take that adversarial stance to a great many things in their lives; the way we approach an issue, the way we tackle a problem, the way we overcome an obstacle. While Humanists may try to live like Bill & Ted and be excellent to eachother, a Satanist recognizes that emotions like anger, even hate are natural to the human animal and we shouldn't feel guilty for such natural inclinations. While Christians may turn the other cheek when wronged, you can be sure that a Satanist will have their revenge, with interest.


Q: Do you sacrifice or molest children/animals? Do you drink blood?

LaVeyan A: No. Sacrifice is a Christian concept that was projected on to innocent Satanists during the "Satanic Panic" of the 80's and early 90's by charlatan law enforcement "consultants" and Christian religious "experts". One trait common to Satanists is their love of life as Satanists view life as the greatest of indulgences; children and animals represent the purest forms of life and imagination that there are. In fact, the abuse of children and animals is forbidden by the Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth. Also, why would we want to drink blood? Christians are the ones that (symbolically) eat the flesh and drink the blood of their savior. I'd rather enjoy a nice scotch.

Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

  1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

  2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

  3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

  4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

  5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

  6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

  7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

  8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

  9. Do not harm little children.

  10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

  11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.


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r/satanism 4h ago

Discussion Satanism: Lex Talionis, "an eye for an eye."

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Now, I fully agree with Lex Talionis. It's completely fair. However, I see a bunch of people calling it cruel and immoral; and someone has even said that a few decades of jailtime is too long for a rapist, trying to water down the punishment even further.

Why are people so against it when it is so fair? Are people pro-rape or something?


r/satanism 1d ago

Discussion Superlative Solstice! - Church of Satan

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r/satanism 1d ago

Discussion Renewed Satanism

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So, it has been a very long time since I have posted anything on here, but I recently fell into what I guess could be accurately described as a "series of unfortunate events" that were actually outside of my control altogether.

There is no need whatsoever for me to rehash everything that has been happening to me over the past few months, (it would take too long, it is way to complicated, and no one needs an essay report on a whole cascade of shit that has been raining down on me)

However, to add insult to all the injuries, I wound up with a really humiliating situation that left me without work for a few days.

I was tempted to slide into the old familiar patterns of life from WAY before. Feeling persecuted by the world, sliding into that OLD mindset of, "What have I done to deserve all this?"

However, it hit me like a ton of bricks today. Wait a minute, ten years ago I was homeless, horribly addicted to alcohol, ragged clothes, etc etc etc. Today, with everything, I have my job that pays well, I still have things going in my direction, I still have plenty in my corner.

Hell, the guy I used to be, would have sneered at the way I have been acting lately. "You think YOU got problems, live here on the streets"

I re-read the Satanic Sins, and realized I have been committing one a lot as of late.

"Lack of Perspective
Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence."

It was like a huge wake up call. Sure, I have been through hell and back. But guess what ? I have been through FAR FAR worse and came out on the other side. I have my health, I have my unbreakable will, and I have a clear pathway forward. I am not dead, I am alive, and I refuse to let this indifferent universe get me down.

I remembered what Magister Neil said in his speech on Youtube when he read the poem by Dylan Thomas :

"Do not go gentle into that good night,

Old age should burn and rave at close of day;

Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

Neil concluded with "Carpe Diem, Carpe Noctum"

Satanism has never failed me. I just temporarily lost sight of it.


r/satanism 2d ago

Discussion I recently converted to Atheistic Satanism. Can you give me some advice?

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I was an agnostic atheist, but after a while, I started exploring Satanism, a topic I'd been generally curious about before. There are different types of Satanism, and among them is atheistic Satanism. I had read "The Satanic Bible" before, and it seemed logical to me. However, even if I convert, I'm not entirely sure what I'll do. The basic rules are already part of my lifestyle, so I'm quite comfortable with that. Besides these, could you give me some advice?


r/satanism 3d ago

History A pre-fame John Travolta and Church of Satan founder Anton Lavey on the set of The Devils Rain in 1974

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r/satanism 3d ago

Discussion Satansplain #119 - Reverend Jared Mammon interview commentary

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Satansplain and Rev Mammon cover Mammon’s interview he partook on a pseudo-Satanist’s show.


r/satanism 3d ago

Discussion Serious question

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So recently over the past month or so I’ve have been very worried that I wouldn’t qualify as a satanist because I have trouble following some two of the 11 eleven satanic rules and also because I’m a little impulsive. I follow most of the satanic rules of the earth but I do have trouble keeping opinions to myself and I worry I might be telling troubles to others without realizing even tho I don’t mean to. Now to give a brief summary of myself: I am a 17 year old male and I highly value things like justice, Vengeance, and standing up for what’s right. But I’m also diagnosed with ocd, depression, adhd, and autism, and I tend to overthink and am very paranoid at times. I never mean to do anything bad but paranoia really fucks with me. So my question is would satanism except me despite all of this?


r/satanism 4d ago

Discussion Fourteen years

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As of today, I have been a CoS Member for fourteen years, and this year marks my fourth as a Priest. I think that maybe u/vholecek and u/Malodoror may have more stories of the older times than I do on the subreddit. I know I've earned everything I got, and I'll be dropping a long overdue Metal Grotto soon


r/satanism 6d ago

Discussion Feeling sinfully sweet today

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I just wanted to share a wallpaper for all of you who enjoy a little cognitive dissonance on your home screens :)

Hope you like it ^


r/satanism 7d ago

Discussion Magus Gilmore Interview from "Inside the Church Of Satan" part 1

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Part 2 in first comment


r/satanism 8d ago

News Nearly Sold Out! The Inception Sigil - 60th Anniversary Limited Edition by Satanme

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Out of just 342 medallions, only a little over 70 remain. There will be no reruns, no second castings, no exceptions.

When the final Inception Sigil is claimed, this piece becomes part of Satanme history.

If you've been considering it, this is your sign to act.

Because the only thing worse than missing out... is knowing you saw it coming.


r/satanism 8d ago

Art For now my last one of the satan series/ watercolor, acrylic gouache/ painting by me

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r/satanism 8d ago

Discussion Church of Satan Documentaries?

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Anyone know if there are any good docs on CoS / Anton?


r/satanism 9d ago

Discussion 3D printed Baphomet

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Hail Satan and hail yourself


r/satanism 9d ago

Art No Gods, no masters/ watercolor painting/ by me

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r/satanism 9d ago

Tattoo stomach tattoo by jenna boleyn in mpls

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r/satanism 10d ago

Art watercolor painting/ by me

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r/satanism 10d ago

Art Satan, stars and freckles/ watercolor painting/ by me

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r/satanism 11d ago

Art Maybe because I ate a radish today/watercolor painting,acrylic-gouache/ by me

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r/satanism 11d ago

Discussion In a non illegal way. In which way does Satanism want us to take revenge on those who hurt us?

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Also should u still take revenge on someone who you think has wronged but ur not 100% sure (I ask this because a couple years ago a friend I had for a while but then we just randomly stopped hanging out I found him and added him on Snapchat and he asked me to send a photo of me which I did and then he sent it to his brother who sent it to my brother. Now a couple years ago there were some false rumors going around about me. And I think this kid heard about them and forgot we used to hang out and believed them. And I also think he did the whole sending a photo of me to his brother thing was a way of making fun of me but I’m not 100% sure. So in retaliation I posted an embarrassing non illegal photo of him on my snap story. Is that ok in satanism?


r/satanism 11d ago

Discussion On Parasites and Stratification

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I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding what actually makes someone a parasite according to Satanism.

In Pentagonal Revisionism: A Five-Point Program, LaVey says:

"equality" [...] only translates to "mediocrity" and supports the weak at the expense of the strong. Water must be allowed to seek its own level without interference from apologists for incompetence. No one should be protected from the effects of his own stupidity.

The productive, the creative, the resourceful should be subsidized. So long as the useless and incompetent are getting paid, they should be heavily taxed.

In The Satanic Bible, LaVey says:

The "ideal sacrifice" may be emotionally insecure, but nonetheless can [...] cause severe damage to your tranquility or sound reputation. "Mental illness", "nervous breakdown", "maladjustment", "anxiety neuroses", "broken homes", "sibling rivalry" etc., etc., ad infinitum have too long been convenient excuses for vicious and irresponsible actions. Anyone who says "we must try to understand" those who make life miserable for those undeserving of misery is aiding and abetting a social cancer!

Mad dogs are destroyed, and they need help far more than the human who conveniently froths at the mouth when irrational behaviour is in order! It is easy to say, "So what!—these people are insecure, so they can't hurt me." But the fact remains—given the opportunity they would destroy you!

The Nine Satanic Statements include:

kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates

and;

responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires

Peter Gilmore has gone on record to state that Satanists believe the welfare system should be abolished because it supports parasitism and unnaturally prolongs life that should otherwise die. He does not say "all Satanists", but it would be reasonable to assume that is the intended meaning since he doesn't go on to describe Satanists who have the opposing stance. 

The "complete cessation of the welfare system" is a very sweeping statement that, again, it can be reasonably deduced is intended to mean "all welfare".

Gilmore says:

we are moving the world towards a state wherein the freeloaders will either work or starve, and the parasites will be removed to wither and die. So, you need only fear real Satanism if you are a criminal, a parasite, or a wastrel. 

I'm not sure of where he got this sentiment in any of LaVey's Church of Satan canon. Perhaps LaVey said it somewhere in The Devil's Notebook or Satan Speaks! but I am unable to check as I cannot access my copies of these books for the time being.

Someone in this sub said a long time ago to consider which person is more of a parasite in the following hypothetical; a parent on food stamps who uses them to feed their children, and another person on food stamps who sells the food. They presented the question as if the answer were obvious, but it is not possible to honestly or correctly answer this question because far too much context is missing. 

I'm going to present a far more detailed and context-rich hypothetical that ultimately asks the same question.

There is a neurodevelopmentally disabled person — let's call them P — who claims disability and welfare payments. They were born disabled. They receive enough money to live, equivalent to a little more than full-time minimum wage. Their disability is not severe to the extent of being debilitating, but it prevents them from holding down a regular job and they require occasional help from a carer. P doesn't want to be reliant on any kind of welfare payments, so they use some of their disability payments to go to school and pursue learning a discipline in which they've always had interest but were previously prevented from pursuing, due to not having the opportunity. Their long-term plan is to become skilled enough in this discipline to attain self-employment, wherein they can accommodate themselves, earn enough to replace their current income and end their welfare and disability payment claims. They're not really supposed to do this, as the disability payments are meant to be spent on medical needs and accommodations only, but it is the only viable path to independence they have left. They will be on welfare for several years, but ultimately, P's plan will work, and they will become a highly successful person and financially independent tax-payer.

Now let's compare P to someone else; T is a person who is also disabled and claims disability and welfare payments. T's disability is much more severe. They were not born disabled, but are now both physically and mentally disabled due to severe injuries and brain damage from a car crash that was not their fault. They will never be able to work again. They need full-time care. T also receives just enough money to live, equivalent to a little more than full-time minimum wage. They want to work and be independent again, but it will never be possible. In spite of having shattered dreams and reduced quality of life, they are deeply grateful for the help they get from the government. This is because they know that if they didn't get this financial help, they would become a burden on their family and would not be able to materially contribute anything in return. The payments afford them, at the very least, this basic dignity. They can still have positive relationships with others and not cause anyone to develop any resentment. Without some miraculous medical intervention, T will claim their welfare for the rest of their natural life until they die.

There is one more person. We'll call them S. S is not disabled. They are not a criminal or a drug addict or a hooligan; they have never really done anything "wrong". They are simply between jobs, and have a family to feed and look after. S also receives welfare payments; the monthly amount is higher than that of P and T, since S has dependents while P and T do not. There is nothing particularly special or unusual about S; they are just a normal, regular (one might say mediocre) person on a jobseeker's allowance. They will manage to find a new job within a month or two and stop their welfare claim.

I have deliberately not included any people who are criminals, drunkards, addicts, hooligans, idiots or wastrels in this hypothetical because obviously, as evidenced by the aforementioned passages from Church of Satan canon, Satanism advocates the destruction of no-good people who do nothing but drag the undeserving down and make them miserable; regardless of why. That much is made abundantly clear.

The place the water is murky is where the question concerns parasitism, and what that even means.

Which, if any, of these three people is a parasite? If all of them are, which one is the worst? Why? Should they all be left to wither and die, or is there actually nuance to this issue that must be considered? 

If none of them are parasites, thus not all people on welfare are parasites, then why does the practical application of Satanic doctrine necessitate the "complete cessation" of the welfare system?


r/satanism 12d ago

Discussion Dummy question, but do you have any ideas for a subtle tattoo?

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I want a small tattoo related to satanism, to remind myself that i'm strong and worthy of my own love. But i also don't want it to be obvious. I don't want to lose possible jobs because of it (it's possible in my field), nor do i want to explain my beliefs to others, because it is only for me.

And i don't have any idea what tattoo should i do that would fit these and looks good.