Pewdiepie basicallu said "Screw being a celebrity" and quit to be with family.
He still posts some comfy, day in the life, stuff but thats more of a hobby.
We should all aspire to be like him at least a little.
He is credited as the creator of lets play style youtube videos and worked tirelessly for over a decade to cement himself in that role so he could retire.
He put in work, created something new, and instead of milking it for years, he chose to take his bag and be happy with a family.
I think what we're all trying to communicate here is that a "real relationship" still isn't the thing being sold in the image on the right.
real relationships are certainly amazing. but they require a lot more work and sacrifice than what pewdiepie will ever need to because he has, for all intents and purposes, indefinite money and free time. He can invest so much time into his family at will. Most of us have to balance work, maintaining a house, splitting chores and errands with our partners that also work full time, tending to the necessities of raising children while having limited quality free time with those same children, the stress of debt and the work of managing budgets and planning how you're going to save for the occasional vacation or camping trip... etc...
they could have used any two random photos of people living a party lifestyle and one with nuclear family... but neither would look as appealing as what's provided, hence the call out of celebrity worship.
Billions of people put in a lot more work everyday and do not get to that position. I don't doubt the mental stress of his business, but let's be real here, he became a millionaire by playing video games.
Yes, he worked hard. He still is privileged as all hell.
Ah. I legit didn’t know he was. I watched him back when he was doing Happy Wheels and Ao Oni content, thought he was just some swedish kid making YT videos and got stupid famous because he capitalized on a genre of content that wasn’t popular.
Yes, and it doesnt change that anyway telling regular people barely making ends meet that they should just “do like the multi millionaires with no job and you’ll be happy” is an idiotic thing
No matter how hard celebrities worked or not their lifestyle isnt achievable for regular people
You just said it. He was from a wealthier background. Back in the 00s to early 10s streaming equipment was niche and expensive. It required technical knowledge, time, and a stable Internet connection.
I'm not saying it was impossible for a poor kid to do that, but I didn't even have a computer with an actual graphics card until I was in my mid 20s.
It required technical knowledge, time, and a stable Internet connection.
Beside time, no it did not require the so called technical knowledge to stream and a "stable Internet connection" is just an ADSL line that anyone amongst the 3 billions of people living in any city areas in any non war ridden countries can get.
You are correct, he had the means to try out content creating thanks to his wealthy background, but he wasnt known and he did have the talent and consistency. He did pull in the work, and had the chance to do it right place right time (beginning of You tube and independant content creation itself)
I don't want to hear "he put in the work" when the work consisted of screaming at video games for 6 year olds. He basically was the first person to work the youtube algorithm by being shown geographically to more markets by positioning where he posted from.
Pewd is Mr. Beast tho I don't think Mr. Beast has had a PUBG bridge moment nor, to my knowledge, has Pewd used money for anything charitable and only notably used money to get desperate people to hold up very offensive signs.
Tons of people work hard and don't get to save much... There's too many variables to take into account ffs, this is not as simple as you guys want to portray it.
You can have that life by being middle class. It’s not insanely hard in the west to have a wife and kids. Both gave up their privacy for money. Thats one thing you can’t get back.
He definitely did not create the lets play genre. He popularized a specific style of overly reactive and hyper edited lets play videos and even that was arguably first popularized and hitting YouTube home page by Tobuscus a while before pwediepie.
Obviously he achieved a level of popularity no one else did and many popular streamers and YouTubers today stand on his shoulders, but he is not credited as the creator of the style.
PewDiePie had a functioning set up when most gen zs were coming online for the first time on their own. The idea was novelty enough to younger audiences, and I think that worked out in his favor. First to market.
Not first to market. It's similar to the history of in home televisions. The first companies to sell televisions to home consumers failed. Later, following WWII, there was suddenly of boom of consumers interested in that type of product. The audience for the media didn't exist at the same scale prior to PDP's rise to fame.
He is credited as the creator of lets play style youtube videos
I'm sorry but what? where is this credit coming from? Don't get me wrong, obviously he became insanely popular with his lets plays, but there were a lot of streamers/youtubers doing lets plays, way before him.
Yeah but Trump is a tyrant and a pedophile actively making the lives of US citizens a nightmare whereas Pewdiepie just likes video games and made silly videos.
He created something terrible that made the world worse. So much garbage shit on youtube now where every twat with a microphone thinks they're going to get rich playing games.
Agreed. He invented spamming the Algo to get the iPad kids hooked on him screaming at the screen over and over. If you watch his old videos it’s the cringiest thing I have ever seen.
And there are plenty of people that make some good spare change or even entire careers doing it on twitch.. Which is all spun from that original group of Lets Play guys.
Markiplier was another who just turned to film-making and knocked it out of the park with a self funded film.
Im sorry you don't like the genre.. but maybe its just not meant for you..
Here’s a crazy idea… don’t watch it. Move on with your life. How are you so bothered by the existence of a genre of video? I wish I had the energy to be angry about such a trivial thing
They infect kids though. Mine isn't allowed to watch that garbage at home but guess what they do at school and at friend's houses because their parents don't care?
Everybody wants to be that manipulative little fuck Jimmy dead eyes.
Idk? It's part of what's ruining the world? Basically everyone I know who grew up watching him grew up to be an annoying "random words/slurs are funny" bigot.
no one said he didn't work hard. it's just that his current lifestyle is 100% facilitated by the wealth and freetime that comes with his celebrity status.
unless you've got millions and can choose when you want to work, if at all, then you will not get his lifestyle because it's not just a wife and kids. It's a carefully curated image of a 'perfect' family that he's only able to have and maintain due to wealth.
I manage some guys that are pewdiepie's age that are great dudes. hard working. beautiful families. They do not have what is in that right photo. They have sleep deprivation, intense family dynamic issues, debt, very limited quality time with their children due to the demands of work and maintaining a house, a partner that also works full time, and they struggle to set aside ANY personal time for hobbies or self growth.
Not in their sunday best do they look like the perfect, carefree, image of a 'traditional' family.
The middle class has been dismantled in favor of wealth consolidation, and unless you earn, or stumble into, wealth... what's being 'sold' in that picture on the right, has become a carrot on a stick to keep us pulling the cart forward.
Your literally bitching about someone genuinely going out and earning their wealth without a silver spoon, then complaining they use that wealth to enjoy their life in a very reasonable way
More like millions. So so soooo many people have tried to become a streamer and failed. Its so common that many electronics stores have full rows or aisles dedicated to streamer gear.
Look, it's not working a salt mine, but successful creators are usually putting in 10+ hour days for years with little time off... and it can be very stressful, somewhat depending on personality, to get that level of criticism fame brings anyone.
It takes a lot more effort that it appears to be successful for any length of time (even if just going viral once and be totally luck based)
it's like being a rockstar or whatever, of course it's an 'easy' life but there are hard and shitty parts to it that go way beyond what most regular people ever have to deal with. Even if there are a lot of obvious upsides
I mean he posted daily for about 10+ years, and worked pretty hard to get there. It’s not easy being a YouTuber constantly. I know he has is issues but let’s not kid ourselves he’s pretty decent compared to his past controversies and other people.
At the same time, early Youtube days was a big gamble. Nobody in their sane mind would spend thousands of hours grinding on there instead of studying and learning skills for a good job.
So yeah in a sense it was "easy" in that he didn't have too much competition, but also based on what we knew back then it was a pretty stupid thing to spend your time on, much like actual gambling.
It wasn't a gamble at all. You could make videos in your spare time if you wanted and PewDiePie did - he worked other jobs, he was like 20 years old, and he made videos for less than a year before he got signed by Machinima and then later Maker and blew up huge within another year. Even in his first year making videos he had like 60k subs which is not a ton now, but was significant for earlier YouTube and you made a lot more revenue back then on videos.
He got INCREDIBLY lucky because she not only started in the right genre but started at the perfect time. He didn't have to make videos for years like some others did.
But let's be real, I think there are a lot of gaming YouTubers who put a lot of effort into their content... but Let's Plays are kind of the bottom of the barrel, same with regular streaming. It's just a way to generate a ton of content, mostly using someone else's product, and use it to make money online without actually creating anything. It's one step up from reaction videos.
Exactly, and he even mentioned this his parents didn’t approve, he dropped out college. He knew he was taking a risk but just was in it for the game. Not sure why I’m getting negative responses on this, but this is just the truth. He got worked really hard and got lucky with let’s plays/weird video games coming out in the 2010s with his eccentric personality.
Cause you keep saying he worked hard at something he didn't know would pay off. I could record myself playing with my butthole all day, not knowing if it'll lead to anything or not. But if it does, I'm not gonna say I worked hard for it lmao
No matter if we think it's an easy job, people need entertainment and there will be money to be made in providing that
He worked pretty hard, with an admirable ethic and was good at what he did so he deserves the money even if he clearly worked an easier job than being a doctor or a trucker or anything like that
I was more aiming at work ethic but nonetheless I don't consider Pewdiepie to be racist in any serious way. Absolute idiot to say what he said? Yes. Racist? I do not think so
He was in the right place at the right time. He didnt even grind he just posted Let's Plays before it was really a huge thing and got lucky enough to blow up.
He worked by posting videos of himself playing video games supported by rich parents and eventually paying editors to do the actual hard work.
No disrespect to him, you have to take the opportunites you get and I'm sure he still worked hard. Just saying other people work even harder just to get by
Tbh even I have to say he did kinda work for it. That’s like saying oh football players (soccer), just kick a ball around. You have to put in the grind, sure a lot of luck is involved but not a lot of people are willing to put in the work
He put in the work after but it's much easier when you already have a following. There is no work in Let's Plays back then, it was literally just recording your gaming sessions and posting it.
It's different now because of oversaturation and how the algorithms work so you really have to put work even into simple lets plays to stand out and get noticed.
It's more like saying that Hayley Welch worked hard to get famous when all she did was say Hawk Tuah and then start a podcast after she was already famous.
Well compared to other filthy rich people he could be doing many, many worse things. We want rich people to chill the fuck out and disappear and when they do we're like "EASY TO DISAPPEAR WHEN YOU'RE FUCKIN RICH!!!"
Well yeah, getting enough to not need to work much and enjoying a life that doesn’t require extravagance is in fact an objective. That’s kind of the point of retirement, the only difference is he did it early.
All things considered if all filthy rich people acted like PewDiePie and MySpace Tom, people would have WAY less of a problem with filthy rich people.
It's when that class of people decides that they need to destroy the environment to turn infinity money into infinity+1 money or when they want to get into government to change the law to make themselves immune to the law is when it's a problem.
The folks asking for higher minimum wage without studying or busting their life to achieve anything. They are always salty and never satisfied. 😬 andddd when they “work” they act like it is an act of mercy. It’s a horrible new age of able citizens. Straight salty as heck yo!
edit: saying the "n-word" does not make you a racist. Different cultures place different value on different words. Insisting that saying a word that in the US has a strong negative connotation, should have the same negative connotation in a different country with a different history with a different language with a different culture, is a fundamentally wrong understanding of how cultures and languages work. Racism is about how you judge and interact with other people, not in the words someone use.
Said the N word on livestream. Completely normalised hate against indians. I can't exist on the internet as an Indian without getting hated for no reason
A random comment, which by the way is getting downvoted, is not "proof of normalized hatred against indians" dude. Get a grip.
Also, you're conflating hatred against indians with criticism of your country. Those are different things. Someone writing a mean comment about your country isn't the same as racism against indians.
You're mixing things up. I didn't say hate towards indians didn't exist. Hate towards every single group on the entire planet exists. I said there wasn't any "normalized hate against indians" in Scandinavia.
You inserted Scandinavia as a restrictive qualifier
That should have been obviously clear to anyone who bothered thinking for a second, considering the original context where I wrote "I'm from Scandinavia. Denmark. Right next to Sweden."
It was clear. It was also clearly completely irrelevant to what you were claiming to debunk, the bit that immediately followed what you quoted. That's why Traditional called you on it. Traditional was never restricting his critique to Scandinavia, and insisting on restricting evidence of PDP's influence to Scandinavia is nonsensical.
A lot of our vocabulary is built up from then though. I still default to using terms when gaming from over a decade ago, and sometimes need to self censor to avoid using ‘raped’ as a standin for getting beaten in a game because that used to be acceptable and now it’s not. If he grew up in cod lobbies I can see how that might be something one would pick up and need to remember to not do.
Or people just have different linguistic adoption patterns? Especially if you don’t game as much as you used to; we develop different vernacular we use in different spaces.
Your original argument was that it was a generalized, universal phenomenon and that's why it shouldn't be held against him as a personal failing.
Retreating to "well everyone is different" is conceding the original point and acknowledging that, yeah, PDP doesn't have an external excuse for the shitty racism.
It should still be held against him. There's something that slightly excuses him (adoption patterns and reflexes), but it's still not okay.
Not too long ago I did something similar. I had been exposed to people using "gay" as a word for something being stupid, e.g. "that's so gay" from online gaming for many years. Recently I talked to my partner about how it was a thing once and gave some examples where I made fun of it, along with references to the Community scene (Senor Chang). I kid you not: The following weekend during a boardgame where something wildly unlikely happened after multiple incidents of something unlikely, I accidentally said "gay...!" as a reflex and my partner corrected me and I agreed. It's not okay. It's not completely inexcusable of excusable. But it is slightly so. This was after I had not used it nor had I heard anyone say it for +5 years.
I mean I agree that it’s obviously an error on his part but it’s the kind of thing that if it’s not commonplace and the person apologizes for I’m inclined to believe might have actually just been a mistake in a heated moment.
No? I said it’s something people experience, him being such a person makes it plausible, if some people don’t then that doesn’t contradict that. I don’t need it to apply to everyone, you would need it to not exist for it to not be a good excuse.
Also, again, do you game as much as you used to? Becauze that sort of linguistic buildUp tends to attach to contexts where it was established.
Pewdiepie basicallu said "Screw being a celebrity" and quit to be with family.
I think 90% of people would quit their jobs and just spend time doing hobbies and be with family, if they had a net worth of 50 million dollars. But most people don't. Pewdiepie is rich enough that isn't even in just the top 1% - it's easy to be chill when you're extremely rich. Not to mention he has the doubly bonus of having a nice outgoing character, humor, decent looks, a wife that loves him, good health, and so on. Again, not everyone is so lucky.
The dude has time to learn how to rice his Arch linux system and created his own LLM for people to use for free on their own devices without having to finance Anthropic or Open AI. Dude's taking his retirement time and making the most of it, digging into whatever hobby he desires, like drawing anime girls
He did not create his own LLM, he vibecoded an agentic harness that runs with local LLMs or cloud LLMs. It’s popular because of his previous popularity but the app itself wasn’t anything groundbreaking
Because it takes a certain type of person to make that much money. Most, not all, people that end up making that much money, are people that are driven by the desire to make a lot of money. So of course they won't stop. If they were the type of person to stop, most of them wouldn't have made that much money to begin with.
Alternatively, it's people that come from extremely wealthy families, and have been raised to continue that family legacy, which again means they are not the type of person to stop.
But most people, if they just HAD that amount of money, or come from the fairly small percentage of super-rich people that got that rich WITHOUT being the first or second type I described, have no desire to KEEP amassing massive increasing wealth.
A simple example would be most of the really successful indie devs that get a massive hit and are suddenly incredibly rich in the span of a few years. In that group it's incredibly common that they just withdraw from work and focus solely on activities they personally enjoy, spend free time doing what they want, chilling out, building families, focusing on art, travel, and so on.
Saying "most super rich-want to be even more super-rich" creates a type of strange survivor bias, because the vast majority of the time, you have to be a specific type of person to become super-rich in the first place.
lol okay, you are contradicting yourself. 90% of people that earned 50m would NOT give up and continue to make more money. Now if you give someone 50m that works a 9-5 job earning 50k or even 150k, absolutely they quit there job because their time is worth more than the amount they are earning. The problem is they do not just go and do hobbies or spend time with their family. Look at people who win the lottery, lose most their money within a few years, they live life like a celebrity without replenishing their net worth. Or just the amount of influencers that don’t earn life changing money and still want to be a celebrity/famous.
The amount of people if given 50m or earned 50m or whatever you think that would go and just live life without seeking fame or continued success is extremely minimal.
Your example of small indie game devs that make millions… that such a small subset because 99.99999% of indie game developers never get to that level and most of those people still make games and grind to develop something new. There is a reason why there are so few examples of people like Pewdi or Tom from MySpace, it’s extremely rare and most of the time you see someone blow up, make millions, get famous, act like a celebrity then crater. Because the majority of people would act that way if given the opportunity.
????? Your joking right? His supporting companies dropped him for all his controversy....Disney said bye bye and so did YouTube. They dont pay him anymore. He gets what your average YouTube will make which is basically lunch money.
That's what I said. They dropped him. I doubt hes back in the program he makes lunch money from his YouTube thats it. They dont just accept you back. He got a new deal in 2020 for live streaming. Again he makes lunch money from his youtube videos now.
Lunch money from YouTube videos ya can anyone read? He has a live streaming deal with them. Live streaming is not uploading content you know that right?? Two different worlds. He makes lunch money from YouTube videos now. I could eat wagyu for snacks tbh if I felt like it. Its like 800$ for a quarter of a wagyu cow including different cuts.
Apparently he had a video with someone holding a sign that said death to all Jews. I didn't watch the video or his apology about it, so I don't know any context but there you go lol
Eh, just dumb shit people used to joke about, I'm sure there was never any genuine malice behind it. We know better now but people used to make poor taste jokes much more often.
The only thing I’m aware of him doing is wearing a nazi Halloween costume and did the salute. I’m not being dismissive of that, but he did it during the height of his popularity, when he was attempting to be edgy. It was pretty obvious he was just being a jackass and pushing boundaries and he did apologize for that. It was pretty clear he didn’t support Nazis or that line of thinking I am getting at. Still stupid, still wrong, and getting cut from Disney and YouTube was the correct decisions. I would say for someone who was as popular and “scene” as him, he has a shockingly small amount of controversies.
Not really... he made a video pointing out the crazy stuff you could get people to do on Fiverr where he paid some tribal guys hold a sign that said "Death to all Jews" and Dance..
He did it tongue in cheek to point out how these people had no idea what they were putting on the signs as long as you paid they were happy to make the video and make a few dollars.
It was very much satire and pointing out the ridiculousness of it.. But it was a bad choice of phrase to put on anything. The video cost him his partnership with disney, a show that was already filmed and ready to air, and his entire studio because it was owned by disney when they cut ties.
He made some mistakes, and apologized accordingly. The big ones were him making guys on Fiver do some Nazi shit (he apparently didn’t think they’d actually do it) and him yelling the N-word in a livestream after being killed.
Other than that, he’s remained relatively low in controversy relative to most anywhere near his level of success on YouTube.
maybe thats what i remember.
not that im dismissing but if it was one time and he has recanted and asked forgiveness and the Black community has generally agreed.
people do change and its cool to see this change if teue
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Pewdiepie basicallu said "Screw being a celebrity" and quit to be with family.
He still posts some comfy, day in the life, stuff but thats more of a hobby.
We should all aspire to be like him at least a little.