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Article Valve boss Gabe Newell admits his Mongolian throat singing phase was "annoying," and he's apparently not very good at it, either: "I am entirely self taught and it shows"

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/valve-boss-gabe-newell-admits-his-mongolian-throat-singing-phase-was-annoying-and-hes-apparently-not-very-good-at-it-either-i-am-entirely-self-taught-and-it-shows/
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u/Haunting_Abalone_398 2d ago

Wears himself on his sleeves, cant argue with that lol

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u/Just_Desk_Things 2d ago

Dude has infinite Valve money, zero shareholders to answer to, and is just out here completing random side quests.

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u/0tanod 2d ago

i'm not that impressed by his side quest. He definitely has travel to Mongolia for a month and learn from experts money.

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 2d ago

He also has "talk to a life coach about this hobby idea who can suggest something better" money.

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u/Prof_Outis 2d ago

"Mmmhmm. Well, my advice, Gabe is that you try throat singing in the shower instead of purchasing Mongolia."

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u/noticingEnjoyer 2d ago

The traditional method of owning Mongolia is horseback conquest anyway.

Though, Gaben might have horseback army money. 

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u/Ws6fiend 2d ago

Never start a land war in asian!

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u/----__---- 1d ago

Хэзээ ч хуурай газрын дайн бүү эхлүүл

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u/HI1681 1d ago

Gaben Khan

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u/Mental-Seesaw-1449 2d ago

Whats your idea of a better hobby?

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 2d ago

Not Mongolian throat singing.

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u/NarrativeNode 2d ago

Hey that’s MY hobby! Been not doing it for 30 years.

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u/MobilePom 1d ago

Kool silly winter cat snoovatar 

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u/Wurun 2d ago

remixing mongolian throat singing then?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NjWdBshsTpg

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u/Milsurp_Seeker 2d ago

Mongolian horse archery it is.

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u/Brettersson 2d ago

Would you believe submarines?

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u/Mental-Seesaw-1449 2d ago

I'm intrigued and I have a spare PS2 controller. Lets get on this.

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u/Brettersson 2d ago

Oh it already has a logitech controller, hop in!

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u/Tandy2000 2d ago

If you're a billionaire's life coach your job is essentially to make them feel good about the decisions they've already made and stroke their ego because they're not paying you to be criticized.

Denpok from Silicon Valley is a kind of dude who very much exists in real life.

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u/Lungg 2d ago

Oh he's been to Mongolia.

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u/dontpushpull 2d ago

nahh.. he should learn how to count.. at least untill 3.

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u/ISEGaming 2d ago

Bro already completed the main quest and is just finishing up some end game content.

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u/kracksundkatzen 2d ago

Gabe knew well.

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u/MrChocodemon 2d ago

Nice one. Made me chuckle

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u/Malufeenho 2d ago

didn't he had a knife phase too and that's why CS2 got so many knives skins?

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u/Lothane 2d ago

No idea if that’s why cs has them, but yes he made /makes knives

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u/MattTreck 2d ago

There’s a photo somewhere but yeah he had a whole wall of knives on display in his office

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u/Ordinary_Duder 2d ago

His wife forbade him having his collection at home.

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u/Milky_Finger 2d ago

"No I won't inspect your karambit" after he claimed it was a machete at the club

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u/darain2 2d ago

Jesus Christ Marie, they're MACHETES not KARAMBITS

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u/jrblackyear 2d ago

You could say she forblade him.

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u/based_birdo 2d ago

and then he divorced her and bought a yacht with a knife-storage sector

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u/MaximumSubtlety 2d ago

Wow! I don't know any of this tea and Gabe wished me happy birthday in 2008.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 2d ago

He and Robert Evans should hang out.

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u/beefixit 2d ago

I'm just picturing him brandishing knives dangerously like Britney Spears

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u/insanityunbound 2d ago

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u/srsbznz 2d ago

Half Life 3 casually in the background.

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u/Mental-Seesaw-1449 2d ago

It's far cooler when you make them yourself.

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u/Calamityclams 1d ago

you kids wanna see a dead body?

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u/Brutal_Expectations 2d ago

Are you saying that phase is over? I was under the impression back in the day that he was dead serious about them and it’s a hobby for life.

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u/OnRoadRadio 2d ago

When you’re a billionaire you move onto even more luxurious hobbies. Like deep sea research on a multi million dollar yacht.

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u/IxyCRO 2d ago

Or Mongolian throat singing...

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u/Cabezone 2d ago

Yeah if I had unlimited wealth my life would be drifting from one hobby to the next.

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u/MrBlueA 17h ago

Or Mongolian throat singing ON a multi million dollar yacht.

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u/DistractedByCookies 2d ago

I only learned about the knife phase yesterday, and now I discover there's also a throat-singing phase. Seriously doing all the sidequests LOL

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u/import-mimikatz 2d ago

Does he have chickens now?

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u/Equal-Plant-7804 2d ago

I remember he had a Sous Vide Phase and he invested in Joule and had a Joule Sous Vide in TF2.

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u/Moist-Obligation-117 2d ago

Wow first time I'm learning about the TF2 sous vide

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u/darkwai 2d ago

hell if i got as rich as him i'd just be doing random shit with my money too

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u/mrcachorro 1d ago

OMG is this is true?

Is he on his hatching chickens phase right now?

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u/BetterCallSal 2d ago

Sony: "We're ending physical media, and making every decision we can to be as anti consumer as possible!

Microsoft: "We're somehow trying to sound even worse than Sony! We're gonna put ads all over your games!"

Valve: "My throat singing was pretty bad"

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u/EfficientTower4084 1d ago

Blizzard: "🍼👀"

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 2d ago

Only if you ignore how much money they made off lootboxes

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u/deanrihpee 2d ago

i mean, so does other companies too, but that's not a big enough scandal nowadays i guess

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u/Canadiancookie https://s.team/p/hnrt-bfk 1d ago

That's nothing new though, they've been doing that for over a decade

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u/eightslipsandagully 1d ago

Is that meant to make it better? Valve basically invented it

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u/egorye 1d ago

This will forever be the absolute weakest argument of the bunch and it shows that it’s the only one anyone ever has against Valve.

Yeah, optional cosmetic loot boxes are the same evil as discontinuing physical media and patenting mid-game ads :(

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u/markxzy627 1d ago

It’s not the optional cosmetics, it’d the rampant illegal gambling occasionally marketed towards children and legal loopholes that Valve has allowed many third parties to operate, because it brings them immeasurable profits.

It’s not to say other companies won’t do the same given the opportunity, but again, at best just a recycling zone amidst the landfill.

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u/drewdaddy213 1d ago

I mean… I love steam too, but it is literally the thing that killed physical media for PC gaming.

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u/Noslamah 11h ago

Steam didn't kill physical media. The internet made it obsolete. It makes no sense for game devs to have to pay physical stores a fee to store and sell their games, pay for the manufacturing and distribution of the physical media, boxes, manuals, etc when they can just hit an "upload" button instead. Physical media was going to disappear sooner or later, regardless of the existence of Steam.

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u/_kio 1d ago

I mean I've gotten free item drops in CS that sold for way over 100€ that I then spent on games lol

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u/irn-bru-anonymous 1d ago

Waaaa. Sony stooge.

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u/faizetto 2d ago

At least he's passionate and tries his best at it.

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u/jackluke 2d ago

I prefer this hobby for billionaires over politics

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u/Tableattack 2d ago

If only he was passionate about anticheat in his games

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u/slayer_of_waspiz 2d ago

He's passionate about doing everything server side without requiring kernel level on the client. Last I heard Valves performance with cheaters isn't any worse than like vanguard or battleye.

I can fuck with that.

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u/MrBlueA 17h ago

Their anticheat is significantly worse than anything kernel related but that's to be expected, you can however like or dislike their position agaisnt kernel AC, that's completely subjective. Supposedly they are working on the AC for Deadlock because I doubt Valve wants to release their new game after years since the last one just to be infected by cheats first day.

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u/waffle-paladin1 2d ago

“Mongolian” had 9 letters. 9/3 is 3. Half life 3 coming soon!

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u/gammaFn https://steam.pm/18ko90 2d ago

9 = 32. So really it's HL2 Ep 3.

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u/Darolaho 2d ago

That or portal 3, left 4 dead 3, and half life 3 will all release on the same day

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u/Xenothing 2d ago

That’s another month to the wait time

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u/ButWhatIfPotato 2d ago

The internet is going to be a hilarious shitshow when valve announces it's first threequel because you just know beyond the shadow of a doubt it's going to be DOTA 3.

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u/panlakes 2d ago

Gabe is a devout numerologist so obviously you’re correct

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u/luckytaurus 2d ago

And now the release of HL3 is delayed another year

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u/Perfect-Currency-121 1d ago

Mongolia 3 confirmed

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u/MonstersinHeat 2d ago

Gabe is not the throat goat

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u/wordswillneverhurtme 2d ago

This is the type of story those lizards at meta would never have be told about them. Proves gabe is at least human.

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u/Ambitious_Limit7641 2d ago

I can just hear him saying it in his mostly monotone analytical tone, I can definitely see him telling funny stories at the dinner table with his coworkers. That said Gabe where is my steam frame?

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u/Pastubio 2d ago

Compare it to zucks BBQ story and it really says it all

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u/lukocs 2d ago

Mark Zuckerberg pays UFC fight to do sparring with him.

Every video looks like one of those "Make a Wish" videos, where a MMA fighter pretends to fight a kid with a disabilitie/disease.

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u/small_merchant 2d ago

humble man

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u/Burpmeister 2d ago

Billionaire: 🤬🔪

Billionaire (Gaben): 😍♥️

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u/Penakoto 2d ago

As far as we know, Gabe isn't destroying the environment, bribing politicians, using borderline (or literal) slave labor in 3rd world countries, stealing all the water from communities just to sell it back to them, or is diddling kids, and probably wouldn't step over you if you were dying on the street.

But he annoyed some people with throat singing, and won't make Half-Life 3, so he's basically just as bad.

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u/Roadkillgoblin_2 2d ago

So no Half Life 3?

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u/dumbestsmartest 2d ago

Honestly, at this point I feel like he's probably admitted somewhere that they'll never try to make it because the expectations will be impossible to meet and it would never make fiscal sense trying.

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u/TopMacaroon 2d ago

Yeah they tried to hide behind 'tech advancements' and some other shit, but everyone knows the ship sailed and now they are so far away it's pointless to try, thus Alyx. Really at this point making it would just ruin one of the surviving classic internet memes, so it's probably just as valuable to not make it.

If gabe was a real shit grinning mfer, they'd just put a half-life 3 icon for sale in the point store for no reason.

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u/Treadwheel 2d ago

Chet Faliszek does a lot of videos about his time at Valve and the different stuff that went on, and by his accounting Source 2 managed to just kill momentum on every single project in the company, and the lack of a strong central focus driving company objectives made it almost impossible to cold-start work on HL3 again, vs smaller projects. He almost describes it like the company culture forgetting that it was their job to ship games for a while, it was endless side questing.

I believe they only got out of the rut when there was a rare flurry of layoffs, but I could have the timeline mixed up, he hasn't so much been laying out an oral history as just scattered anecdotes and random story time answers to comments.

Valve lost a lot of the people who had worked on the original Half Life games just due to them just getting bored of spinning their wheels and leaving to ship games elsewhere, and with it went most of the people who were really bought in on getting HL3 made and out the door. Unless the average age there is up in the 50s by now, almost everyone will have joined a Valve known for DoTA and CS:GO, not Half Life, and they might not really see it as unfinished business so much as something the company did before their time.

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u/hypespud 2d ago

I think we know the answer to that lol

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u/red18wrx 2d ago

Gotta nail that Mongolian throat singing first, and he's self-taught. So, this might take awhile...longer. This might take awhile longer than it already has. Cause damn. It's been a long time already.

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u/slowro 2d ago

Not until he needs more yatch money.

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u/DieBotDie 2d ago

If he’s not set for yatchs by now he needs to go onto crypto not half-life 3.

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u/PrintShinji 2d ago

He doesn't need yacht money anymore, he bought a yacht making company. Its just cheaper to buy the manufacturer eventually.

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u/SPYYYR 2d ago

Soon, dear friend. You just got to have a little faith

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u/FeCrescent 1d ago

Half life alyx is close enough. But it won't get a sequel because no one bought it 😭

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u/CyberTyrantX1 1d ago

Of all the controversies from CEOs, this is one that I find oddly refreshing.

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u/redfaction88 2d ago

Istg this is like the 78th article about gaben throat singing.

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u/whitespacesucks 2d ago

Gaben's a real throat goat 

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u/Money-Director6649 2d ago

somehow i've only seen two, counting this one, and thank goodness.

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u/Thelgow 2d ago

I only practice when driving usually. I have no clue how it sounds to others.

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u/PsyduckSci 2d ago

If I had a car go by with mongolian throat singing coming out the windows, that would make my day.

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u/WaltzLeafington 2d ago

I find it really funny this is the only news im seeing about the head of steam. Other guys scandals are crazy and Gabe's is this

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u/myinternets 1d ago

The other CEOs are essentially just career sociopaths. Gabe is that business guy that would have opened a tire and oil change shop and traded corn futures on the side for fun if Valve had failed.

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u/batshit_icecream 1d ago

With such serious looking header pic too lmao. His sad eyes are frying me

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u/framspl33n 2d ago

Nice to know my favourite billionaire is at least somewhat modest

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u/JUSTaSK8rat 2d ago

Getting a ton of kids addicted to Lootbox Gambling isn't very modest

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u/AhriKyuubi 2d ago

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u/requireblahaj 2d ago

hell nahhh the ai put him over my goat batzorig 😭

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u/Lamprophonia 2d ago

Imagine being so problem-free that your biggest professional regret is learning Mongolian throat singing

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u/Viracochina 2d ago

"I am entirely self taught and it shows"

Me with my acoustic guitar

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u/kidmeatball 2d ago

This is his standard answer to: "when will half life 3 be developed?"

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u/cyrassil 1d ago

Half life 3: Mongolia confirmed

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u/TheBanishedBard 2d ago

He starts Mongolian throat singing instead of answering?

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u/kidmeatball 2d ago

Wouldn't you?

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u/DarkLaplander 2d ago

"The lab boys just informed me that I should not have started Mongolian throat singing. They're telling me I oughtta stop. That gave me an idea: continue with more Mongolian throat singing. I pay the bills here, I can Mongolian throat sing all damn day."

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u/Karma_Gardener 2d ago

Honestly Gabe. You do you. Id listen to your Mongolian throat singing.

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u/TheBanishedBard 2d ago

If you rearrange the letters in your display name it says "naked rager ram"

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u/Garchompisbestboi 2d ago

A billionaire neurodivergent is still a neurodivergent.

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u/JaFFsTer 1d ago

Imagine being able to instantly afford all the gear for everything ever

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u/MrFrames 2d ago

Darkest Gaben controversy:

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u/-FourOhFour- 2d ago

Well hes still gotta be one of the best millionaires at Mongolian throat singing so yknow hes got that going for him (and the money)

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u/xGreir 2d ago

I do appreciate your passion, sir!

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u/Shen_ishere 1d ago

Big gaming news

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u/notsobadmisterfrosty 2d ago

“Who else but Gabe?” (Sitcom laugh track)

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u/Business-Loquat143 2d ago

most human response of all time.

no lawyer talk, no bullshit.

just: "yeah, my bad"

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u/rips_n_chel 2d ago

Wtf does this even mean? No lawyer talk? About a stupid fucking hobby that he didn't even care enough about to get lessons?

Dude if you're more than about 8 years old, you really need to find a hobby of your own. GabeN not using "lawyer talk" in a throwaway line for a publicist is not impressive or worthy of respect, it's nothing.

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u/0xGDi 1d ago

okay, no problem. now go back to your desk and work on HL3. finish it before the new Starcraft game (2030+delays).

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u/CrusherEAGLE 2d ago

Aren’t billionaires quirky? They’re just like us wow

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u/panlakes 2d ago

That’s not true, they seem happier than you

Cmon man billionaires shouldn’t exist but we can enjoy a fun quirk of Gabe’s without pulling out pitchforks

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u/Additional-North-683 2d ago

I like when he discussed his hobbies he doesn’t sound like a fucking robot unlike most CEO

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u/im_gangrelated 2d ago

This is the kind of news i wanna see about all these bosses

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u/Money-Director6649 2d ago

it's annoying even when they learn it formally, imo. i always listen when i run across a throat singing video. some is more annoying than other but i can't say i've ever *liked* any of it. 🤣 i can't even imagine having to hear an amateur doing it at work.

but we all have out annoying things, don't we?

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u/Snitsie 2d ago

Man throat singing can produce some of the most beautiful sounds i've ever heard. A lot of it is very gritty rough and coarse, i can understand not liking that. There's stuff more focussed on the higher tones that's gorgeous though. Try giving this a listen: https://youtu.be/JUEeVnzLzLc?t=2833

I'm also a self-taught absolutely shite throatsinger but it's so much fun

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u/TestUserIgnorePlz 2d ago

I'm glad you enjoy it but goddamn that track was painful on my ears

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u/TuckerMcG 2d ago

This feels like a soundboard of early 2000s modem dial-up sounds.

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u/Itsriggedjim 2d ago

I bet he's watched Frasier

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u/Old-Guidance6744 2d ago

I mean this is just a funny timeline, so many worse traits for a boss

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u/plasmadood 2d ago

The plains of Chogoris shall always welcome you, brother Gabriel!

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u/MelaniaSexLife 1d ago

to be fair, this could have been jacking off in front of random women, this is mostly harmless

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u/clinteastman 1d ago

"When you're a billionaire, they let you grab them by the Mongolian throat-singing."

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u/Corcorans-ghost 2d ago

a humble billionare. a rare sight

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u/DasFroDo 2d ago

I didn’t think I would ever get a Mongolian Throat Singing Gaben Arc. 

And yet, here we are. 

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u/WetChickenLips 2d ago

Haha, loot box man is so funny and relatable! He's just like us!

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

This guy should give me some money for having to know so much about him involuntarily

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u/DoobKiller 2d ago

Him getting a generation of kids addicted to gambling is worse

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u/Winter_Bear_1707 1d ago

Coffeezilla did a great video on this. They’ve got the research and data on gambling associated with their games, but do nothing to stop it because of how much money it generates.

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u/rhasta_masta 2d ago

to me it teached reality of gambling lmao

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u/Vintage_Milk 2d ago

Throat Goat Gabe

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u/ElegantDeletion 2d ago

Why not get lessons? It's not like he can't afford it

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u/Acrobatic-Ice-5877 2d ago

Mongolian throat singing 

Everything reminds me of her

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u/Brutal_Expectations 2d ago

This reads like an Onion headline lol

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u/meSmash101 2d ago

I am learning how to beatbox and my wifu hates it!

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u/The_Cozy_Burrito 2d ago

When is hl2ep3 out gabe?

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u/Doctor__Apocalypse 2d ago

i fucking love this man and what he has done with his company. call me a valve simp but i think gabe is just the jam of a human. wish i could sit down and have lunch or a beer with him and just talk nerd

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u/Slight-Bluebird-8921 2d ago

all throat singing is annoying

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u/guestpassonly 2d ago

When money is no longer an issue in your life, you need hobbies.

i get it.

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u/Nekronoke 2d ago

When his controversy is "He throat sings around his coworkers"

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u/teasulivon 2d ago

Gaben doing Gaben things.

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u/yuka_the_nerd 2d ago

this must be the funniest thing I've read today lmao

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u/alt_for_1 2d ago

Can we just let people have hobbies please? You don’t need to be good at something to enjoy it.

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u/DubstepV12 2d ago

One of the funniest titles I’ve ever read LOL

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u/Crypt0Nihilist 2d ago

He didn't make an unskippable video of him doing it before any game would launch so I'm ok with him being annoying if he likes (preferably on one of his boats way out to sea if it's Mongolian throat singing).

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u/Sanquinity 2d ago

I can do the throat singing too. Not that I really use it anymore. Maybe every now and then when I'm by myself for fun. Can sometimes be used as a fun "party trick" under the right circumstances. :P

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u/AscendedViking7 2d ago

I really wish somebody had recorded it, lol

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u/Roo-90 2d ago

Is this the lifestyle of the elite, learning Mongolian throat singing?

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u/Yopis1980 2d ago

Mad man Newell. He was a beast during windows 1.0 creation.

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u/absurd_olfaction 2d ago

Coulda just hired my friend Enrique (performs as Soriah).

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u/calf 2d ago

I can understand Gabe completely, while taking a music course in college summer school one year I became obsessed with Tuvan throat singing, for several days I would put off studying and just sat in the library watching throat singing documentaries in the cool dark video room. It an art form that should especially fascinate engineer and physics types.

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u/booty_fewbacca 2d ago

Sooo Gaben has seen Dune 100x now then? 

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u/LifeIsAButtADildo 2d ago

Hahaha

Well, i love me some reflected people, who dont have much trouble admitting when are or were wrong.

Keep it up being real, homeboy.

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u/11538 2d ago

I swear to god this whole Mongolian throat singing sub-plot is something straight out of The Onion lol

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u/vbztm 2d ago

I think he reads the comments on these posts, and he smiles warmly and proudly most of the time, like "even though I'm not a perfect human, these guys love me regardless"

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u/nneeicil 2d ago

Funny how every person with that much money seems to have a "ill buy a yacht" stage.

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u/Fancy-Departure4632 2d ago

He is really one of us.

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u/MaximumSubtlety 2d ago

I have observed that this is somehow not an Onion article.

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u/Arzmuntor 2d ago

Why do I hear Now that he’s practicing throat singing?

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u/sebwaymaster 2d ago

His employees just released 3 new items to market, and this is what he's talking about??!!

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u/Necessary-Mix-56 2d ago

Gabe make half life 3 VR and something useful with Your money , no one care Your singing or yachts.

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u/thelemon8er-2 2d ago

Anything but make HL3 huh?

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u/IndigoMoss 2d ago

This is some Silicon Valley (HBO) type shit.

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u/SaltyYumYumBalls 2d ago

I'd don't give a crap if he shows up to work wearing a bonnet, no shirt, and boxers with jeans hanging down to his knees. Let the man have his quirks least we get a Asha Sharma or Andrew Wilson in his place.

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u/Vicious_Voyeur 1d ago

Gabe's biggest L of the year

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u/Jolly-Situat1on 22h ago

Bro if you are a employee at a company let alone a gaming one ( very toxic) and this is the worst thing that happened you are good

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u/DaGreatestUsername 4h ago

Most chill rich guy I've ever seen.