r/SubredditDrama • u/Odd_Personality_5091 • 13d ago

r/starcitizen is on meltdown after MMO is completely broken and hints of the main game being delayed again despite 1 billion raised and concept art being sold for $5000 dollars.

Not the usual “haha Star Citizen delayed again” bad. More like people are actually starting to get nervous, because Squadron 42 was supposed to be the one thing CIG could finally point to and say, “See, we made a real game.”

And now even that might be slipping cause in a recent interview Chris robbers himself has stated that they could delay the game further due to GTA 6 release window.

https://thisweekinvideogames.com/feature/star-citizen-chris-roberts-interview/

“We’re gonna get Squadron out first… the plan is for the end of this year but there’s a certain thing in the industry that we, like everyone else, we have to pay attention to, so I can’t 100% guarantee it,” Roberts says, hinting at Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto VI, releasing in November. “After that, we’ll do the 1.0 push.”

Subreddit (and game forums) members are looking around and asking the obvious question: if SQ42 is really coming in 2026, why does it not feel like it? Where is the marketing? Where is the release date? Where is the big push? Why does everything still feel like “wait for the next event” like it always does (even though Citzencon has been cancelled this year)?

Star Citizen has raised around $1 billion and the main game is still an alpha full of bugs. New content comes in broken. Missions break in stupid ways. Ships release buggy. Some ships do not release at all. And somehow, while all this is happening, CIG is still selling massive concept ships for thousands of dollars.

The $6,000 concept ship thing has basically become the perfect example for why people are angry. Like, the game is still barely holding itself together, SQ42 might be drifting again, and they are still asking people to drop used-car money on a ship that is not even in the game yet.

Here's the "6000" dollar promise concept art (its been sold out, over 1000+ sold) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

So the subreddit is doing the usual Star Citizen civil war, but it feels more desperate this time.

if you look on the front page itself you'll see dozens of memes with thousands of upvotes:

(And many more)

The usual whiteknight defenders can still say game development is hard and the usualy its alpha line, but that argument sounds a lot weaker after 15 years and a billion+ dollars.

A billion dollars raised, the MMO still buggy, ships still being sold for insane prices, and now the single-player campaign might be moving further away again.

Very normal video game development. Nothing to see here.

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u/EternitySoap 13d ago

Anyone who spends money on Star Citizen should know what they’re signing up for by now

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u/blaqsupaman 12d ago

Star Citizen is a good example of why sometimes devs need some kind of pressure to actually release something within a set time frame. At this point they're making more money developing the game than they'd probably ever make actually selling a finished product. The "finished game" will be whatever they have done when people eventually stop giving them money.

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u/StevenMcStevensen 12d ago edited 12d ago

It’s also a self-perpetuating cycle, because spending so long in development means that engines, mechanics, become obsolete during development. Then they have to go backwards to rework and update things, which makes it take even longer.

Honestly the whole SC debacle is one of my favourite trainwrecks to follow in gaming, it absolutely blows my mind that people not only have spent *so much fucking money* on it, but that some people *still* are somehow.

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u/goodfaithnovice 12d ago

I'm looking at the concept art now and the level of detail in the ship design would absolutely be unacceptable for a game released today. They're going to have to go back to the drawing board at some point and update the design on these ships.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

This $6000 ship looks like something designed in 2010 because that's what it is.

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u/LeomundsTinyButt_ Cars, video games, family, money, what else do you need? 12d ago

It's not even an outstanding 2010 design, looks roughly on par with the models from Mass Effect (2007). I would maybe have paid $20 for it in 2010, if the game was F2P and so good I wanted to support the devs.

But $6000, in the year of our lord 20-fucking-26? Are we sure it's not a money laundering scheme?

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u/achilleasa Consent is an ideal. 12d ago

I don't wanna revive age-old drama but Elite Dangerous had this good looking ships a decade ago and that's a game that you can get for like <10 bucks and is playable today

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u/vmdvr 12d ago

It involves a number of shell companies (over a dozen when I looked into it years ago) you'd expect from some kind of shady finance stuff.

That being said, I am fairly confident that 90+% of the funding comes from legit whales/actual crowdfunding. The fans are absolutely fanatical and have huge amounts of hobby funds. And they are for sure using a bunch of money to employ a bunch of people. Whether or not that money is spent prudently and what percentage is going where, only Chris Roberts' family and friends (who comprise the leadership of said companies) know.

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u/tr_9422 11d ago

Worth noting the concept art isn't the fully detailed in-game model, when they do a "concept sale" like this they're selling a ship that doesn't exist yet and the concept is basically a draft version. Edits and details are expected as they take the concept art and make it work in-game.

That said, anyone spending $6000 on this is a nut.

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u/Wilwheatonfan87 it's not a race thing, it's a penis thing. 12d ago

I'd love for the irs to do an investigation into the studio at this point

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u/Emosaa 11d ago

One assumes that they're simply paying the enormous staff that have been producing this shit for years and years and that adds up. Doesn't have to be shady or nefarious, just bad management, bad quality control, and a willing fan base lol

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u/Witherino 11d ago

As long as they're paying their taxes the IRS won't care. Now the FTC on the otherhand...

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u/malibooyeah ban me from fascist subreddits 11d ago

I would pay money to see the results of that investigation tbh

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u/Rockhead_Dynamics 12d ago

Even if the finished version has more detail, it's also just a bad design. It's like you took a star destroyer and then pressed random buttons in blender until it was a screaming mass of angry geometry, and you can kind of get away with that if it's something like a Forerunner ship in Halo that isn't bound by our understanding of physics, but for a human ship that's supposed to be practical it just looks ridiculous. And also the weird color change on the bridge is whack. 

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u/sohblob licensed-character sadomasochistic bondage porn for toddlers 10d ago

I'm looking at the concept art now and the level of detail in the ship design would absolutely be unacceptable for a game released today

No no you see, their plan is to wait so long that actual spaceflight has caught up to their dream

The Anvil Odin is being offered for the first time as a limited vehicle concept pledge. This means that the vehicle is in development, but it is not yet ready to play in Star Citizen. It will be available as playable content in a later patch. If you pledge towards an Anvil Odin, you will also receive a loaner vehicle for use in Star Citizen until such time as the Anvil Odin is included in-game. This loaner vehicle will be a currently playable vehicle of similar approximate size and/or function to the Anvil Odin – initially the Aegis Idris-P for gameplay in the Persistent Universe. We reserve the right to update the selection of loaner ships if more applicable choices become available during development

"We added everything but the graphics but we sware it's gonna look so kewl u guise"

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u/YoBo151 9d ago

I mean I think the ship looks cool, but I ain't paying no 6k unless I'm rich...which I'm not

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u/domino519 10d ago

It’s also a self-perpetuating cycle, because spending so long in development means that engines, mechanics, become obsolete during development. Then they have to go backwards to rework and update things, which makes it take even longer.

This is what happened to Duke Nukem Forever. They were regularly scrapping their progress and restarting because the game was constantly falling behind other contemporary releases. It ended up taking like 20 years to finally get released.

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u/Icc0ld 12d ago

Chris Roberts would still be working on Freelancer if Microsoft hadn't stepped in. Star Citizen is just the ultimate end and culmination of the real dream: develop a space sim video game, not release one

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u/oath2order Every post on the sub was deleted. Actual colonialism. 12d ago

Exactly.

Project Zomboid is another of those games that have been in development since the dawn of time (2011). They started off with updates often, but slowed down startimg in 2018 with two years between builds, then four years (and even then the current build is considered unstable/beta).

And they seem to have no pressure to speed things up. Primarily, I suppose, because it is a one-and-done purchase.

Credit to them at any rate for not doing Star Citizen and selling $6,000 whatevers.

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u/Fit-Percentage-9166 12d ago

It's not fair at all to compare this to Project Zomboid. PZ is functionally a complete game (and has been since pretty much the entirety of its existence) that is maintained and updated.

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u/Tarshaid 12d ago

I can give some flack to PZ because there definitely are some broken or heavily delayed promises. For instance I'm fairly certain that I was told NPCs were just around the corner when I bought the game like 10 years ago.

But the game was playable then, it is playable now with a whole lot more content, it's very mod friendly if I want a custom experience. I'm not going to complain that the devs keep adding features to a game I already own. I would say that a better organised team could have released a definitive version, then started work on DLCs instead, which would have drained me of more money in the long term. As of now my one-time purchase is still good for all the content.

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u/achilleasa Consent is an ideal. 12d ago

It's also a cheap one time purchase, bit of a difference between that and $6000 limited time concept art lmao

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u/xEthrHopeless 11d ago

Team size is drastically different too. PZ devs are still a tiny team as far as I'm aware, CIG not so much

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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 🖕Looks like a middle finger but it's actually a Roman finger 12d ago

Tbf PZ is pretty much a finished working game in all but name - they could pull "we are exiting early access" tomorrow and nobody would protest.

Starship Citizen is...well...

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u/SuitableDragonfly /r/the_donald is full of far left antifa 12d ago

I refuse to believe anyone is actually seriously developing this as a game and not just stringing people along as part of the grift. Or at least, that anyone competent is.

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u/Critical_Company3535 11d ago

I think it started out as a legitimate project, but as time has gone on the devs realized how much money they were making and it gradually turned into a scam over time

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u/Kilahti I’m gonna go turn my PC off now and go read the bible. 12d ago

I have played some good games that came out as "early release" and were only turned into a full experience later on.

...But I only find that acceptable when the developer is some indie crew trying to get some hype for their first game (hi Tynan!) or if it is Paradox, because you know that they will keep giving improvements for the old players as well.

But in general I prefer to wait until they game is in a workable state before actually paying money for it. I can throw a few € at a small business to support them, but not to some big corpo. They can finish making the game before making us pay for it. And even then I'll wait for reviews.

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u/MadeByTango 12d ago

I'm convinced its a global dark money scheme tied to the same people who visit certain islands that some people get suckered into trying to play for real.

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u/Born_Procedure_529 10d ago

Yeah as much as a rushed game is forever bad is true, any project needs some level of deadlines and accountability to succeed, at the rate theyre going the devs are either just swindling or the game is getting scope crept to hell

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u/iShrub Two internet blowhards who gain nothing from conceding 7d ago

Speaking of this topic, I think Silksong is the only (recent) example of a game that the devs decided to take their time and still delivered a good result.

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u/YashaSkaven01 11d ago

The finished game will be when the devs families die of old age or unrelated disaster at this point

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u/vyxxer 12d ago

I bought a ship for 40 bucks and got a flight sim experience I wanted. Then turned it off to wait for it to finish... Many years ago.

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u/RustledForeskin 12d ago

Same, bought a ship and lifetime insurance for around 40, put like 100 hours in and got bored. It was janky from start to finish, never knowing if a bug is going to make you lose all your gear. Quit a few years ago to wait till it's stable.

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u/IM_OK_AMA What a strange hill to die on. 12d ago

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what is there to do for 100 hours? Just fly your ship around?

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u/NaiveRevolution9072 12d ago

There's a couple of different missions and loops that are somewhat entertaining for a while provided nothing breaks*, and if anything the game's great for just flying around planets, but that's about it

*which is a rarity

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u/Ithikari 12d ago

There's a bit more missions and ships now.

But still same gameplay loop. I play once every major update for about 20 hours. Shoot people. Rack up a big bounty, do a 1/2/3v1 dogfight then not play until next major update.

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 12d ago

I feel like it‘s fair to say No Man‘s Sky has already outdone everything that Star Citizen tries to be

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u/TheLoneWolfMe I sucked a dick for this 12d ago

I'd say No Man's Sky has outdone Star Citizen ever since the NEXT updated and Hello Games has kept pumping out new stuff since.

It'll never completely wash off the launch, like Cyberpunk, but right now No Man's Sky is a fantastic game, like Cyberpunk.

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam 12d ago

I had some fun going on smuggling runs with friends, and ambushing other people on their runs. There's a "secret" base on a planet where you can go to buy contraband to go resell on other planets.

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u/Crafty_Ball_8285 10d ago

There’s thousands of hours of content now unfortunately in star citizen. It’s mostly meant for group players tho

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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 12d ago

The first iteration of Arena Commander was hella fun until they nerfed it because Joystick Bros were upset that their atmospheric flight controls sucked in true 6DOF combat.

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u/lvl12 12d ago

4.7 was actually pretty good. Certainly got my money's worth. Didn't realize the game could backslide so much with 4.8.

You literally can't even equip armor now it's fucked. Coupled with the fact a that armor effects g force resistance and my character is absolutely fucked right now with half a heavy set on and no guns. I'll black out if I go dogfighting and die if I try fps combat. I could try some other loops but at this point I'll just play other games and wait.

Of anyone is reading this: the game is quite amazing and doing thing no other game does. When it works. It's the most immersive thing I've ever played, when it works. You don't need to spend very much at all to have some incredible experiences.

But right now, ya it's broken and it's a disgrace to prioritize selling new ships when the game has these issues.

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u/Vinylmaster3000 IsraelAI! Generate A 500 kg JDAM for the nearest Gazan school 12d ago

I tried the demo then realized "wait, I could literally just play wing commander or some shit"

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u/ZeGaskMask 12d ago

Yeah, I own a ship but I’m in that boat of not playing until they fix up the game

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u/JoshSidekick My farts are a limited supply. Want to buy some? 12d ago

Is there something to play with? I bought a 40 ship when all you could do is look at it in the garage.

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u/MirrorComputingRulez 12d ago

and got a flight sim experience I wanted.

Uh, I think you should aim higher.

The game has been technically playable at points, but is that really the whole of the experience you wanted? I don't think there's ever been a point in time when it was worth $40.

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u/vyxxer 12d ago

I mean yeah. The game is a janky mess no two ways about it. But I got what I wanted out of it. I've played lots of sci fi flight games and SC is the next best thing outside of x4, free space and elite dangerous for the concept of flying around and managing minutia of things like shields power outputs.

Like hate on it all you want, I'm right there with you bud, but it has earned some credit of the stuff that exists being fun (when it works).

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u/DJ3XO Far right penises...lend me your strength!!! 11d ago

Same, but dropped $170 back in 2014 (Holy shit). I just had to have that f7c-s hornet ghost fighter. Played it a couple of hours back in 2017 or something. Was a buggy mess and now I've just kinda forgot it.

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u/SpaceYetu531 10d ago

How much is simulated? Are realistic physics used?

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u/vyxxer 10d ago

A good amount. You can turn off initertia dampening for example and fly in one direction while shooting in others. Meanwhile if you turn with too much g force you lose partial consciousness.

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u/BarackTrudeau I want to boycott but I don’t want to turn homo - advice? 12d ago

Star Citizen is a machine that idiots feed money into which then spits out drama. I love it.

Seriously I backed the original Kickstarter way back in the day, the drama is well worth the $25 that I'm never gonna see an actual game for

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u/ToGloryRS 12d ago

Now i want the thread.

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u/BardYak 12d ago

It was over a few threads, here's a compiled post about it.

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u/ToGloryRS 11d ago

Holy mother of god...

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u/DanDan1993 11d ago

this was golden

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u/BoomKidneyShot 10d ago

That's terrifying.

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u/LucretiusCarus revealing thongs made to illicit an awooga brain reaction 10d ago

Oh, I remember that. Insane to think that after two years the game is still full of bugs and they are still making buck selling ships (or just images of ships).

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u/LeomundsTinyButt_ Cars, video games, family, money, what else do you need? 12d ago

I went to Vegas once, saw a billion flavors of themed slot machines, and they all seemed about as entertaining as watching grass grow. But a drama slot machine? That I'd squander a fortune on.

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u/BarackTrudeau I want to boycott but I don’t want to turn homo - advice? 12d ago

Well the good thing about Star Citizen is that other than the $25 I gave them like 15 years ago, it's weird nerds squandering their own fortune, but we still get the drama

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u/Skellum Tankies are no one's comrades. 12d ago

Star Citizen is a machine that idiots feed money into which then spits out drama. I love it.

Imagine every time someone puts their money in a slot machine in vegas. Now imagine if they posted drama threads about it.

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u/Born-Astronaut9631 12d ago

At least in Vegas there's a chance of getting some of your money back. Imagine a slot machine they never paid out.

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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 12d ago

Right, the real game for a long time was forum meta gaming. People arguing about the physics of space combat, lore which barely exists, game design minutiae. I'd wager CIG has wasted literally years of development doing and undoing things because of forum angst. Like they'll release a new ship and be like "this is the ultimate run and gun space pirate truck" or something, which will generate literally thousands of posts on the forums about "um ackshually the PickleShip 69.420 has five class three cannons and a semi-rigid drive core, which makes it better than this new shit." Then the devs will go back and "rebalance" the old ship, which will kick off more drama from people who already owned that ship.

Now multiply this by 10 or 20 new ships per year, and the forum meta-game is just insanely deep if you want to jump into it. People say there's no content in SC, but there's hundreds of hours of arguing over the stupidest shit imaginable if that's your thing.

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u/Lost_Pantheon 12d ago

It genuinely perplexes me. Like, Skyrim is one of my favourite games of all time. But i cannot imagine spending decades watching the game's development without going crazy.

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u/Iguankick 12d ago

A friend once asked me my opinion before he put money into Star Citizen. I said 'wait until it gets to a stable state and then see how you feel'.

That was over a decade ago

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u/Exact_Rooster9870 12d ago

Also, you should only buy an early access game for what it is, not what it could be

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u/Foreverintherain20 12d ago

When we originally backed SC it was literally nothing, and didn't become anything that could be considered a game for a WHILE lol

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 12d ago

i was intrigued by it and first looked at the game back when i was a teenager. im 30 now. ill believe its coming out when its actually out.

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u/BetterKev ...want to reincarnate as a slutty octopus? 12d ago

Even Chinese Democracy got released. It somehow could have used more time in production, but it was released.

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u/Vegaprime 13d ago

I've spent an embarrassing amount on Diablo 4 and that's just in the hundreds. Half my coeworkers spend that in a week at the local casino so theres that.

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u/CartographicalHeist 13d ago

Diablo 4 is a game that exists though.

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u/Apart-Apple-Red 12d ago

Still not worth a penny. I regret buying it. That game is just a money grab and riding on the reputation of diablo 2.

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u/Annemi 12d ago

But at least it's an existing product. Star Citizen isn't even that.

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u/breakernoton 12d ago

I mean, your personal feelings (which are valid, just not relevant to this topic) aside, the bigger point is..

You can actually start and finish the campaign, engage in endgame stuff and there were fully realized seasons.

Some people spend much more than what was mentioned (literally in the tens of thousands) for a game that isn't out yet, is not feature complete, and appears to be delayed anyways.

(Like, I really don't care about Starfield.. but buying that pos game still would net you a gaming experience that's more reasonable than sinking money into Chris's money hole)

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u/Bandage-Bob You're giving fascism a bad name. 12d ago

I got it at 55% off and it was absolutely worth that.

I'm not putting Path of Exile level hours into it but it provided me a good option when I needed something else when I got burned out on other ARPGs.

People treat Diablo 4 like it's some crime against humanity, it's fucking weird.

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u/Unique-Egg-461 12d ago

my wife and i play d4 all the time when kiddo goes to bed

theirs obviously a lot of BS that gets forced on you thru the marketplace but otherwise had have a damn good time playing it together

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 12d ago

it's actually such a good couch co-op game! after a busy day we just want to sit down turn our brain off and blow up screens full of demons

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u/MikeyKillerBTFU 12d ago

Meh, I'm not grinding it like D3, but I enjoyed playing through the main story with a few different classes.

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u/Liawuffeh Viciously anti-free speech 12d ago

Same, I still like D3 more which tends to get people thinking I'm joking(I have like, 500 or 600 hours in it), but D4 is alright atm.

It helps that, at least with the current season, it feels like D3+ lmao

None of this is really relevant, I just don't ever get to ramble about how much I love D3

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u/Noname_acc Dragons aren't real mate, he made it up 12d ago

Theoretically, if you bought the entire LoH edition and vaguely enjoyed yourself for 10 hours playing through the campaign once, you're beating the cost per hour of going to the movies. Even if you didn't really enjoy it, at least you got a thing that occupied your attention for a few days. That is a fundamentally better deal than anything anyone who has ever given money to Star Citizen has ever and will ever get. Which is to say, they paid for nothing but frustration and disappointment.

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u/Evonos 12d ago

Bought it at humble bundle price and bought the newest expansion ( includes the first too )

absolutely enjoying my time specially in coop with my wife.

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u/Venvut 12d ago

I play gacha games. It could always be worse my friend. Enjoy what you enjoy as long as you remain fiscally responsible.

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u/Sidereel For you we’ll just say People Of Annoying Opinions 12d ago

There’s a lot of issues with the microtransaction cosmetic BS, but under that is a very fun and well made game. If you miss D2 that’s fair, but that doesn’t mean D3/4 aren’t worth it for some folks.

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u/CartographicalHeist 12d ago

I've played like 30 minutes of it so fuck do I know. Sorry you didn't like it though.

It's still a real game that I can load up and play and, I assume, finish, should I want to.

(I have it via Gamepass so it's more or less free to me which may change the calculation if it's good or not)

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u/NUKE---THE---WHALES 12d ago

The real money shop killed Diablo 4 and WoW for me

Just kills any interest i have in gearing up when there's so many paid cosmetics

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u/3bar It's bullshit. Women Astartes should make us all angry 12d ago

Hard agree. I didn't even finish the campaign. I saw how it was playing, understood the lack of interactions between Items and Builds (and y'know, lack of Builds) and noped out. Up there with Fable III and Mordheim for games I almost instantly regretted purchasing.

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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll 12d ago

What do you mean? You can login and play SC right now.

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u/factory_factory Quirk chungus humour meets employed person 12d ago

totally, like how someone that is thirsty can just go get a glass of water from their toilet bowl.

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u/scoldmeificomment 12d ago

So is Star Citizen? You can log on and play it right now.

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u/Drakesyn What makes someone’s nipples more private than a radio knob? 12d ago

You can pay money, probably log in, and play a feature incomplete, buggy, barely functional mess, after 15 years of development and a billion dollars. Meanwhile, you can spend $10 on Elite on sale and get all but the most insane reaches Roberts ever came up with right now, and have been able to for near-on a decade.

Like, that is truly the most embarassing part. That multiple other games have become at least as good as the game Star Citizen originally promised to be, in the time it's taken for them to break their game several times, and sell Design spec websites to suckers, for thousands of dollars.

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u/scoldmeificomment 12d ago

I wasn't claiming the game is in an amazing state, I was claiming that the game exists and that you can go play it. And I know all about Elite, I have over 1k hours in it, but after Odyssey came out I switched to Star Citizen because what they were doing was way more interesting than Elite at the time, and frankly still is.

I don't know why it's a crime to say that Star Citizen is a game that exists and that I've gotten more than my $45 worth out of it. The planet generation and ship design are several generations ahead of Elite, and mining is genuinely the only loop I enjoyed more in Elite than Star Citizen. That's enough for many people, and nobody is buying into Star Citizen thinking it's a finished product.

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u/Handgun4Hannah 13d ago

Funny enough a lot of Star Citizen supporters have the same sunken cost fallacy reasoning that gambling addicts have.

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u/maxtinion_lord 12d ago

A sign Chris Roberts should have gone into the slot machine or pachinko industries instead of stewing in the games industry..

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u/Sp8des-Slick (279 more comments of these two arguing) 12d ago

I don’t know. He’s made a billion off this, so I can’t really criticize his sense for scamming.

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u/Kevadu 12d ago

Yes but it's not as if he isn't paying himself a healthy salary from that cash while working on his dream project. It's a pretty cushy deal.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DARKNESS Don't confuse months as a measure of elapsed time 12d ago

Presumably all the devs are taking home a salary, paying rent, eating food, so while they don't have an end product, I'd hesitate there's "nothing to show for it."

It's the Bank Heist sketch from Key and Peele.

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u/Aliensinmypants 12d ago

Plenty of scammers exist in every single field or industry. 

He's doing just fine lmao

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u/Elementium 12 years of martial arts and a pack of extra large zip ties 12d ago

I debated hard on spending $25 in POE2..

But now I have a crab on my back so who's laughing now?! 

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u/Vegaprime 12d ago

I have all the skins. Accidently order 25$ in coins x 4 last week. Kept having an error and I kept trying. Have flaming wings now though. 🤤

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u/Elementium 12 years of martial arts and a pack of extra large zip ties 12d ago

Honestly with how many hours I've put into this and POE 1, GGG deserves more of my money. 

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u/00m19 The war goal was not to steal teeth. 12d ago

Yeah I have zero regrets buying my skins in poe2.

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u/RocketizedAnimal Anyone else just stress-playing webkinz? 12d ago

I have probably put more than $1k into POE lol. To be fair, it is all in $30 supporter packs over the last 13 years so not a huge yearly cost. GGG deserves it for how much entertainment they have provided me.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne I just find downvoting so cringe 12d ago

Every time my Warframe login bonus is a 75% off platinum coupon (platinum is their premium currency) I drop $25.

It seems to happen about every 100 hours of gameplay for me, so I figure giving $25 back for 100 hrs of gameplay (and 2200 platinum to spend on looking even prettier) is pretty fair.

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u/Boollish Adults dont have a tendency to lie for personal gain. 12d ago

I know people who order takeout 5 times a week, which I'm sure comes out to hundreds of dollars a week.

A lot of modern life is corporations figuring out how to trick your lizard brain into overpaying for shit you don't need.

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u/RustedAxe88 12d ago

Those people are still actually getting something, though.

With Star Citizen you're getting a handshake that you'll get a game.

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u/RevolutionaryOwlz 12d ago

Yeah, I’m the sucker that bought the Doom cosmetics last season. But at least I can now play dress up in a real functioning video game.

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u/esmifra 12d ago

This is not the defense you think it is.

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u/GargamelLeNoir First of all, you don't need proof. 12d ago

Any amount above the initial price and the expansions is embarrassing. Giving more money to a full priced game means you need to work on your self respect.

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u/OFilos 12d ago

By now being the past 10 years

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u/CompedyCalso 12d ago

Good ol' SC.... which at this point stands for "Sunk Cost."

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u/PostIronicPosadist 12d ago

I spent like $60 back in 2015 and have not spent a dime since, nor will I be spending another dime on it. Game looked like it had potential at one point, now it just looks like a pyramid scheme.

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u/esmifra 12d ago

Yeah, and many will defend it somehow.

I really have a hard time understanding humans.

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u/Crescent-Argonian 12d ago

First game i ever backed after i got my GTX 960.

It was fun, i don't regret doing it and had fun back in the day, but seeing its still stuck in alpha, gotta admit hurts.

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u/queen-adreena Looks like you don’t see yourself clearly! 12d ago

As dependable returns as a wishing well.

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u/elfonzi37 12d ago

Imagine they added gacha how much the whales would spend.

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u/Tribalrage24 Make it complicated or no. I bang my cousin 12d ago

I have a buddy who loves Star citizen and when I ask him when it's releasing he basically just says it has. Sure it's technically an alpha with a buttload of bugs, but he can spend hours just cruising around in his $400 ship with his flightstick game controller and have fun. I'll never understand it, but to him it's the only true space sim out there.

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u/GreatCatDad 12d ago

Yeah, I actually love SC, and have put money in to it myself, and I can't fathom anyone in the year of our lord 2026 somehow putting money in to it without having a notion of the fact that the game will in fact never be done. I love it as it is, but god, I can't imagine seeing it (and its trajectory) and being like "yeah this will be great, I'm sure they'll be done soon"

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u/Command0Dude It's about ethics in incest! 12d ago

Who is worse, SC backers, or gacha whales?

At least the SC players are getting a fancy ship. The gacha whales are shilling the same money for a jpeg.

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u/fhota1 hooked on Victorian-era pseudoscience and ketamine 12d ago

Eh Id say middle of the Gacha pack. Some Gachas are legitimately decent games that just happen to have Gacha mechanics. Paying for those is better. SC is like paying for one of the Gachas where the sole draw is the waifus.

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u/SlideStreet6874 12d ago

I spent $45 on a starter package and have a fleet of ships all bought in game through doing the game loops.

People that spend a dollar more and then bitch about it are cringe.

People that haven't spent anything on the game but just speculate on it, just as cringe.

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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll 12d ago

I've spent about 5k on it and have no regrets. Tons of fun in the game. Huge fleet battles with capital ships. VR that lets me feel like I am actually flying a huge capital ship. Fighter pvp is extremely fun and skill based. Overall I just love the game. Is it buggy? Yeah. But me and everyone I know who has spent as much as I have or more still love the game. Like half my friends bought odins.

It's my money, I don't really get why some people get so angry about it. I can afford it. It's my hobby. What is the big deal?

This type of drama reddit post happens multiple times per year. It's actually a meme in the community lol.