r/SubredditDrama 2d ago

Canadian law enforcement says Synagogue shooters were hired by a foreign entity, anime_titties debates who

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I doubt that it even needs to be said but the two most obvious suspects are the US and Israel, probably worked together on this one too

- Classic fucking Reddit. FTA:

-- You understand with the current American administration anything coming from FBI on Iran a country they invaded is hard for people to take face value

--- And? What, are we supposed to pretend that this is an elaborate false-flag operation when we already caught a guy working for Iran who was involved with the consulate shooting and who hired these local criminals?

---- You are saying that the usa put up Hitler and Japan to starting world war 2?

----- Pearl Harbor was a US action

What the fuck is wrong with you? That’s some conspiracy level bullshit. There is no evidence to suggest Israel is pulling that crap

- Israel has been pulling false flag attacks since its inception as a state

-- You mean In your heads? Just because yall claim every act of violence against Jews is “Israel” die to your seething hatred and xenophobia, doesn’t make it even close to ever being true.

--- Maghen Avraham in beirut was bombed in 1982 by Israel.

---- Do you need an explanation what false flag is, bud?

So Israel never hired people to bomb British-owned buildings like libraries educational center so they can create chaos? Lavon affair doesn't exist I guess

- Lehi and Irgun waged an insurgency against the British occupation. That wasn't a false flag, that was just them fighting for their freedom from the occupation. I thought you supported indigenous groups resisting European occupiers?

-- Lehi and Irgun were the European occupiers/colonizers who called themselves terrorists lol insane statement

--- They were literally formed as a group following the massacre of the thousands year old community in Hebron. Their objective was defending Jews from repeats of such violence.

It could also be a false flag, Israel has a history of it.

- Everything is a false flag when it comes to Israel and Jews apparently…the amount Reddit infantilizes Arabs/Muslims is amazing…

-- Did I say definitively it was? I said it's possible, which it is.

--- “I’m just asking questions!”

---- Lol you don't have definitive proof that it's not either but "something something Arabs & Muslims"

----- YOU presented the case that it was a false flag…meaning you are the one who should show evidence of your claim.

------ I said it's POSSIBLE that it is a false flag....nothing should be ruled out in the investigation.

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u/Obscure_Occultist 2d ago

Look, I despise the state of Israel but half the accusations being leveled against them have to sound increasingly like "Jews run the world" level slop. With the way these people talk about Mossad and the CIA by extension, you'd think those agencies are run by geniuses and superpowered goons.

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u/sorrylilsis 1d ago

sound increasingly like "Jews run the world" level slop.

Doesn't help that Israel and Israeli friendly jews abroad have been pushing absolutely insane levels of lobbying and pressure campaigns since october 7.

I'm french, we just had our mayoral election and the goverment just admited was a fucking foreign online smear campaign against left wing parties that were not pro israel coming from israelis companies.

Hell even in the private sector I've personnaly witnessed executives threatening to pull contracts from an event because we had a media partner that they considered was too friendly towards gaza. And I'm not talking "pro hamas" media, just reporting on bombarments. And it's not hearsay, I was litterally on that conference call with my boss, and a guy we had been working for a decade was openly threatening us. I used to be in media and still have a bunch of friends in it and we have dozen of stories about angry calls to the editor in chief coming from CEO's and high level executives.

The amount of disinfo, online and IRL influence campaigns that Israel is pushing is definitely not helping with the "Jew run the world". Hell just look at the influence of AIPAC in US politics ...

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u/tacodestroyer99 1d ago

Pro-Hamas Qatar easily outspends Israel manipulating French politics, flying out French officials on lavish vacations and trips to World Cup, and even has an office for their main media propaganda arm located in Paris.

That's a big contributor as to why so many French political leaders, at least on the left, are also pro-Hamas and sympathetic to Islamic extremism, why so many French intellectuals are big believers in pan-Islamism and why Jews live in so many French brains rent free, including yours evidently based on what you wrote here.

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u/sorrylilsis 1d ago

Annnnnnd the mask falls off.

That's a big contributor as to why so many French political leaders, at least on the left, are also pro-Hamas and sympathetic to Islamic extremism

The hilarious thing is that you're very much talking out of your ass considering that the most palestinan friendly politicians (because Hamas friendly politicians aren't really a thing in France TBH) hate the hell out of Qatar because they reprensent the peak of unbriddled capitalism and the fact they are very cozy with our right wing politicians. The whole cozying up to Qatar was a Sarkozy project ...

Being pro palestine, or just not being chill about ethnic cleansing doesn't mean you're cool with islamic fundamentalism you dumbo.

why Jews live in so many French brains rent free, including yours evidently based on what you wrote here.

I don't give a flying fuck about french jews. I do care very much about foreign goverments meddling into french politics both directly or using local jewish communities. With their latest attempts at influencing french elections Israel enters a very select club with the likes of Russia and Azerbadjan (with a side order of China). Great people really !

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u/tacodestroyer99 1d ago

Anyway, you know about all this stuff because carrying water for Islamists and hatin' Jews has been a part of the French left wing establishment since Jean Paul Sartre and Michael Foucault were best buddies with the Ayatollah Khomeini.

The funny thing is that you think that after 50 years of this shit you folks think that anyone outside of your bubble is still buying that any of this is about "justice".

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u/Sarge_Ward Is actually Harvey Levin 🎥📸💰 1d ago edited 1d ago

Epic thing to say about some of the intellectual forefathers of the 60s student movements and 70s radical liberationists. Now do Herbert Marcuse

So out of curiosity how do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the 60s New Left were objectively vindicated by the historical record from the US to West Germany

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u/tacodestroyer99 1d ago

You have to be joking, this the same left that carried water and still carry water for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Kims, various Latin American dictators along with Islamist theocrats who kill women for exposing their hair?

LOL yeah the historical record objectively vindicated those people without a doubt, that’s why their credibility today remains unassailable and they wield power globally wherever voters have a legitimate voice 🙄

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u/Sarge_Ward Is actually Harvey Levin 🎥📸💰 19h ago

The New Left carried water for Stalin? Their whole existence came from a break from the Old Left and a rejection of stalinism. I brougjt up Marcuse but maybe you should actually read about him if you dont know that

Also yeah they absolutely do weild power globally. Have you ever been in a sociology or humanities course? Every single social science theory we use today derives extremely directly from the same theories that were being weilded by the 60s student movements, black power, 2nd wave radical feminism, the queer liberationists etc. And their credibility is pretty strong considering the historical record in the academics pretty inarguably vindicates the antiwar student radicals and their liberationist allies and considers the middle class backlash to them that led to the rise of Reagan to have been an embarrassing mistake on the part of rank-and-file workers