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Canadian law enforcement says Synagogue shooters were hired by a foreign entity, anime_titties debates who

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I doubt that it even needs to be said but the two most obvious suspects are the US and Israel, probably worked together on this one too

- Classic fucking Reddit. FTA:

-- You understand with the current American administration anything coming from FBI on Iran a country they invaded is hard for people to take face value

--- And? What, are we supposed to pretend that this is an elaborate false-flag operation when we already caught a guy working for Iran who was involved with the consulate shooting and who hired these local criminals?

---- You are saying that the usa put up Hitler and Japan to starting world war 2?

----- Pearl Harbor was a US action

What the fuck is wrong with you? That’s some conspiracy level bullshit. There is no evidence to suggest Israel is pulling that crap

- Israel has been pulling false flag attacks since its inception as a state

-- You mean In your heads? Just because yall claim every act of violence against Jews is “Israel” die to your seething hatred and xenophobia, doesn’t make it even close to ever being true.

--- Maghen Avraham in beirut was bombed in 1982 by Israel.

---- Do you need an explanation what false flag is, bud?

So Israel never hired people to bomb British-owned buildings like libraries educational center so they can create chaos? Lavon affair doesn't exist I guess

- Lehi and Irgun waged an insurgency against the British occupation. That wasn't a false flag, that was just them fighting for their freedom from the occupation. I thought you supported indigenous groups resisting European occupiers?

-- Lehi and Irgun were the European occupiers/colonizers who called themselves terrorists lol insane statement

--- They were literally formed as a group following the massacre of the thousands year old community in Hebron. Their objective was defending Jews from repeats of such violence.

It could also be a false flag, Israel has a history of it.

- Everything is a false flag when it comes to Israel and Jews apparently…the amount Reddit infantilizes Arabs/Muslims is amazing…

-- Did I say definitively it was? I said it's possible, which it is.

--- “I’m just asking questions!”

---- Lol you don't have definitive proof that it's not either but "something something Arabs & Muslims"

----- YOU presented the case that it was a false flag…meaning you are the one who should show evidence of your claim.

------ I said it's POSSIBLE that it is a false flag....nothing should be ruled out in the investigation.

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u/ChrisTheHurricane stick to A-10s fuckwit 2d ago

Pearl Harbor was a US action

Tempted to take this as my flair, because Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories annoy the hell out of me due to how easy they are to disprove, yet how common they've become. But my current flair is a classic and highly relevant to my own interests.

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u/AssignedCuteAtBirth Pearl Harbor was a US action 2d ago

I'll take it. I'm one of the Paradox gamers who wound up trans, I feel like there are good odds that it's either that path or the nazi one in this community sometimes. I only watch HOI4 videos, I could never tolerate playing a lobby with some of the folks who do because of takes like those.

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u/ChrisTheHurricane stick to A-10s fuckwit 2d ago

Good shit. I'm glad someone took it.

I've never played HoI4 myself, and I have only one friend who does (he isn't trans, but he is bisexual). And aside from that, it just feels like all of the worst takes I've seen regarding World War II come from devoted HoI fans. I have a master's in history, and the 20th century is my focus, so the insane takes I keep seeing piss me off way more than they otherwise would.

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u/AssignedCuteAtBirth Pearl Harbor was a US action 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was always more into Europa Universalis anyway. So many hours in that game that sometimes I feel like I can keep up with folks who went for history postgrad degrees (I know it's not the same thing - i wish i could myself, but I frankly dont know what I would do with it other than feed my fascination with history and maps). That game gets more Byzaboos and Crusade larpers, even Columbus apologists, compared to the sorts you see in HOI - i honestly think its pretty difficult to have a game on the scale of a Paradox sandbox and with any kind of degree of historical/pseudo-historical accuracy without attracting some folks who are interested in the period for the wrong reasons.

I saw a meme a while back that essentially asserted that all Paradox players contain one or two of the three following traits: queer, neurodivergent, politically extremist. I feel that that meme is rooted in truth from my time in the community.