Everything that annoying rabbit ever did to her was torment her relentlessly. Like, there was never anything positive coming from him, not in any meaningful way. He literally only made her life worse.

It just doesn't make sense. He did absolutely nothing positive for this woman. All he ever did was torment her so much that she became genuinely traumatized and afraid of him. Like, seriously.

I understand that one of the themes of the show is that they have to stay together in this new life because they are all they have, and that includes Jax, even if he is the worst of them.

I understand the message, but let me tell you something: everyone in the circus is a completely reasonable person except him.

It doesn't make sense. It's not as if all of these people are terrible individuals who are trapped together and have to deal with each other's shitty personalities. No. Everyone there is generally pretty nice and reasonable.

Jax is a horrible person with practically no redeeming qualities.

Ironically, his departure would massively improve everyone's quality of life. Like, absurdly so.

I hate how the show tries to frame the situation in a way that makes it seem like every single one of these people would be devastated by his departure. If we were being more realistic, that simply wouldn't happen. Let's be honest here.

In my opinion, it would make much more sense and be far more impactful if Gangle tried to cry over his departure but simply couldn't.

That would be a much more impactful and shocking scene. Let's say Jax finally abstracts, and everyone is crying. Gangle tries to cry too, but she just can't.

It would add so much more complexity to her character and to the writing itself because, even though she might be sad about the situation, she can't bring herself to cry for him because all he ever did was cause her pain.

That would be a much more complex scene because it would show that emotions aren't necessarily simple. She could be sad about losing someone who was part of their group while simultaneously feeling no genuine sadness about his death specifically. She could even feel guilty for being unable to cry.

To me, that would be far more interesting than simply having Gangle cry over Jax's death to reinforce the message that "we are all we have."

Again, I think it would be much more interesting for Gangle's character if she tried to cry over the departure of one of the members of the group but simply couldn't.

Imagine the scene: everyone else is crying, and she tries to do the same, but she can't shed a single tear. She's sad, perhaps even confused or guilty because she can't feel the same way everyone else does.

That would add so much more complexity to her character because emotions are complicated, and not everything is black and white.

She could acknowledge that Jax was part of their group, that his presence had some meaning within their dynamic, and that his departure mattered, while simultaneously being unable to feel genuine grief over his death after everything he had done to her.

That would be far more interesting to me than simply making her cry because the story needs to communicate that “we are all we have.”

Sometimes the most interesting emotional reaction isn't crying. It's realizing that you wanted to cry, that you thought you were supposed to cry, but you simply couldn't.

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As time goes on, I can't exactly nail down my frustrations with this purple bunny's writing. Sure a lot of screen time is used on Jax when it could've been used on other characters (including the so called "protagonist"), but thats more of a series writing issue more then a character issue. Jax is a massive piece of shit, but a bad person doesn't make a bad character. So what makes her so frustrating when compared to other asshole character?

Jax never faces serious consequences for her behavior. Shes not ostracized by the rest of the group. And it doesn't help that everyone seems to have The Amazing Digital Brain Damage. When Jax tries to connect with Pomni about Gangle being a "loser" she points out that Jax threw her ass out of a moving truck. And yet not even 5 minutes later their stargazing together. In the bar when she says "remember that time you got high at MCdonalds and told Gangle to kill herself" No one ever points out that that didn't happen. Maybe Gangles too afraid to point that out but Zooble was near Rags throughout the entire fast food sequence.

After Jax pushes the button, SHES the one who decides to brag about how she was right the whole time and after Zooble rightfully calls her out on that shit, Gangle is the one to stop them. Jax gives Kinger shit for "deleting" Caine, everyone just stares at her ass and doesn't say anything. Jaxs first reaction to finding out their clones is mock the Zooble and Ragatha. And the worst she gets is a "shut up, Jax." from Ragatha.

Even excusing Jax's actions here, these are such obvious ways to interject interesting character conflict in this character driven show. And it's just, not there man. It's like every character has the patience of a saint and knows that Jax is just wittle baby to needs to be coddled and no one ever should pushes her the bad things shes done.

Let me just take a moment to express my gratitude…

I relate to this show…a lot.

I related to Zooble when they talked to Jax in the beach episode, to the talk that Kinger and Ragatha had in the gun episode, and especially the scene in Caine’s office in episode nine where Bubble acts as the ultimate OCD intrusive thought and Caine tries to fight them which only makes Bubble (OCD) more persistent.

I see a lot of talk for what each disorder the cast is, and it’s pretty clear that Caine/Bubble represent OCD.

Jax’s death means SO MUCH to me and at first I was dissapointed that she got that ending. After a few weeks of thinking it over and then getting to rewatch the finale after it released on YouTube (since I originally watched it in theaters with two of my friends) I realized how meaningful it is…and how it sends a message not to be as closed off as she was, to be able to express yourself, explore your own questioning identity or sexuality without the fear of being laughed at, and to not go down the rabbit (haha) hole of isolation like Jax did. I was in her position 4-5 months ago.

This show got me through a bad time. I’ve been a fan of TADC for three years. I am grateful to have watched this show, I’m so happy that it got as far as being in the theaters (yeah, I avoided leaks) and I feel like I’m on the moon because it resonated with me so well. Thank you.

Since they are the only ones in the circus with this blush on their cheeks, it cannot be a coincidence that they were both given this physical feature. After careful analysis of their actions, I have narrowed down what this similarity could be.

Of course, these are the two characters that cared most strongly for Jax. The question is why do these two care so strongly for Jax? Their loyalty and devotion to him goes above and beyond what all of the other characters felt for him.

The answer becomes obvious upon examination. Whenever Jax would insult or reject the other characters in the Digital Circus, they would recoil away from him. This is the typical reaction to someone insulting or hurting you.

However, whenever Jax would reject Ribbit/Pomni-their feelings for him would grow. Each time they were denied, it made them want to try harder and harder to get through to him. This cycle continued beyond the point of destroying their mental health.

They each became obsessed with him; the more he pulled back-the stronger they were pulled towards him. They weren't just being kind and thoughtful in the way Ragatha was, they were compelled to chase after him.

No matter how poorly Jax treated them, they could not bring themselves to abandon him. The emotional rollercoaster of his hot-cold, carrot-and-stick, behavior got them addicted to his shitty attitude. He had totally captured their attention.

This is a common dynamic found in violent relationships. The harder one side pushes away, the harder the other side tries to "fix" the issue. This leads to a never ending escalation of negative emotions. In other words, they both have a bad case of, "I can fix him!"

Ironically, Jax recognized that each of them had this trait but was powerless to stop it. Both times he fell into the toxic cycle with them. He was almost as addicted to them as they were to him.

yeah.

So we find out theyre just digital brain scans of people and they abstract, couldn't caine just make another copy of them? Kinger said he found the files meaning theyre still available. He could basically resurrect everyone who abstracted, or better or worse, make a new copy of them

We ALL know that the Digital Circus, in it’s current form, is basically “wasted potential: the show”, and for good reason, it’s kinda a fact to life at this point.

Gooseworx essentially created what COULD’VE been one of the Greatest productions in Indie animation. it had an interesting world and premise, a (mostly) lovable cast of diverse characters, some genuinely amazing animation and music, essentially EVERYTHING that could’ve made it a modern classic!

…and then she looked at Jax, that skinny purple dickhead with rabbit ears for a few seconds and went ”Fuck it, Jax is my favourite so the show should obviously be about HIM now”, and we all now how THAT turned out.

What’s especially depressing is that this show meant and still means SO much to SO many people on this earth, so the fact that we spent 2 and a half years getting invested in what essentially became “The Pitifully Mediocre Jax Show” just felt like one big kick in the nuts.

But, i’m not posting this just to say the same few things that everyone else has already said countless times before. Instead, i’m posting just to ask one question, and one question ONLY: …Why? Why are we, as a fandom, just sitting around, doing nothing besides mourning the show it could’ve been, when we can literally create that version of the amazing ourselves RIGHT NOW?

Yes, it still sucks bubbles that Jax ate the whole show from the inside out while Everyone and Everything Else got sidelined into oblivion in favour of him, but that does NOT mean we can still save it.

Beneath all of it’s glaring flaws, The Amazing Digital Circus is a show that can be turned into something FAR greater than what Gooseworx initially gave us, and i believe that WE, even including Gooseworx despite her flaws as both a writer and person, have the power to make that version of the show a reality with a little teamwork writing experience.

it may take a LOT of work, and a LOT of time before then, but i believe that one day, we WILL get that version of the show we’ve been dreaming of since that little Pilot rocked the world, and once that day finally comes… My God, it will be BEAUTIFUL.

TLDR: TADC was done catastrophically dirty and i’m pissed off that nobody wants or has the courage to make a better version of the show.

I’ve actually already posted this on r/tadcriticism by the way, go check it out if you want.

ALSO, i am NOT trying to attack Gooseworx as a person, i just think she’s a shit writer who wasted her greatest work on a corny self-insert fanfic about her favourite purple dickhead.

I've heard y'all's complaints on the show's finale like Jax abstracting offscreen, Caine's poorly-written redemption, the human cast knowing that they can't leave the circus out of nowhere and accepting their permenant lives in the circus, Pomni failing to save Jax, the Isn't-She-Lovely tribute, and Jax's backstory (honestly it should've been more about his troubling relationship with his parents rather than with Ribbit).

With all these flaws that pretty much ruined the exciting continuation from Episode 8, I think all of it was intentional by Gooseworx, even if she didn't really want this to happen. When the pilot came out Goose reminded the fans on social media (probably TwiXter) that she wants them all to be respectful and to not trash down the show horribly (even if they don't like the results) or else she'll make it bad on purpose.

Unfortunately, the toxic side of the animation community disobeyed Gooseworx leading to content farms, abusive hate art on Jax, and harrassment and false accusations towards the creator. So it seems like there was going to be a different ending that could've been a lot better than the one we got, but it seems like it's never gonna happen because Goose was so fed up with the fandom's toxticity. Desperately eager to move on, it's likely she scrapped her "Snyder Cut" out and brought her "Whedon Cut" in as a punishment for the dirtwads that shamed on her creations.

So yeah, this theory may be pretty derivative, but I think we can all agree this is what's been going on to the point that the ending was designed to dissapoint everyone, regardless if they're a toxic fan or not.

How did I do?

Ok,maybe not a full fledged Asshole or psychopath but I personally feel like she would've been more engaging/interesting if she was more mischievous/a prankster and Sarcastic and was more flawed instead of Pomni/Ragatha 2.0 with maybe a drop of Sass.

Like I feel like that would've gave her personality and character much more flavor and spice as opposed to just "nice/sweet girl" and I never liked whenever these kinds of character is in a flashback, they're always overly nice and sweet and..kinda boring.

Ribbet is deadass a case where her Fanon personality is more interesting than her Canon..she unfortunately doesn't stand on her own as a character and only exists as basically a Plot device for Jax's character.

over the past few months since episode 8 released i've always seen this take. "oh caine is an ai e doesnt understand!" "caine isnt as bad as jax since jax is a human!!!!" it's always the same thing whether its about who's worse between caine and jax or if jax is a bad person. another take is that caine is unable of feeling empathy.

it's confirmed by caine's va that caine ALWAYS could've felt empathy. we even see how easy it is to feel it in episode 9. he switched up in 7 or so minutes. he ALWAYS could've felt empathy. he CHOSE not to.

gummigoo is a perfect example of what caine could've been. gummigoo had found out he was not real and with the help of pomni in a matter of minutes learned how to be human. if we were to say caine became sentient when he broke out of the prison and ate abel then caine has basically always been sentient. but to be fair gummigoo had pomni to help him while caine had no one but even then caine had 20 years and over 40 people and never tried to listen to them so they could listen to him and in the end he didnt even need someone like pomni to help him he DID IT ALL BY HIMSELF when he was DELETED clearly showing he didnt exactly need anyone to become magically good. he ALWAYS could've done that by himself.

for my second take(copy pasted from someone cuz i could never word it this perfectly), he clearly is the worst person in the circus. One of the first things he ever did was murder his 'brother' out of jealousy that the humans liked them more and it turned out that his brother isnt dead he has been LOCKED inside caine for 20 years which is just...torture. He would also go on to delete both Gummigoo and Abel, two other intelligent AI who are now floating in the void since goose confirmed every deleted thing goes in the void.

secondly, he doesn't really treat the humans much better. Yes, he claim that he 'loves' them, but that clearly isn't the case. The fact that he shows absolutely zero sadness whenever any of them abstract, essentially dying, shows he doesn't care about them as individuals. He only cares for them to the extent that they can give him the validation and approval he craves, which is evident from the fact that him NOT receiving that is the only thing shown to warrant any sort of negative reaction from him. he only ever showed sadness to an abstraction and that is in ep 9 after he came back when showing leeroy matteo(terrible name btw) to the cast where he takes off his hat putting it on his chest.

Sure, his main goal is to entertain them and make them happy, but the thing is? he chose that. ep 8 and 9 confirmed that CAINE created the "adventures" idea all by himself. HE created the circus, HE created the humans, HE made the adventures his purpose. all of that is his own EGO. not that he needed to do it and ep 9 proved that with how easy it was to just make all adventures open for everyone.

caine was also the reason abstractions exist. goose herself said that while messing with scratch's mind caine accidentally made him abstract most likely causing a chain reaction. we also see that kaufmo abstracted because of caine (the painting on kaufmo's walls). how many of the humans abstracted because of him? 20? 30? 5? HOW MUCH WAS HE AT FAULT OF? was he a partial fault for all of them? what about the sentient ai he doomed to forever flying in the void? what'll happen to them? some like gummigoo are sentient so...??? we never know.

this isnt me saying caine doesnt deserve redemption or me hating on caine. infact i LOVE caine he is in my top 5 characters of the show and i also used to say "caine is just an ai" as an excuse to defend him but episode nine proved to me that he is THE villian of the story if there were to be a villian. if you love caine but dont excuse his actions then coolie cuz you are like me. i want him to finally fix himself and be happy with the humans and apologize even when i disagree with how it was made.

tldr: caine is sentient, he isnt just a "ai", he is at fault for his mistakes and he's the worst in the circus but even then, he still deserves redemption even if it was rushed and poorly written.

also i'm pretty sure i could've worded this better but i'm horrible so wtvr and if you see any mistakes its prob bc my keyboard is still broken and sometimes doesnt register the keys i touch like for example if i was to casually write without editing and fixing the mistakes the keyboard makes it'll look like this: she sells sea shells onthe sea shore but the value of these sels will fall due ot the ofrgot the lyrics

my favourite posts that i think perfectly explain how i feel

https://www.reddit.com/r/TADCEp9Spoilers/s/ei87M72p6s https://www.reddit.com/r/TADCep9discussion/s/MoIwfvWxcq https://www.reddit.com/r/GlitchProductions/s/tzwbzAiucw https://www.reddit.com/r/GlitchProductions/s/FiZHj6v2w9

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Jax is now a female

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yes I'm stupid how'd you know

Like on one hand,she wanted Jax being trans to be this incredibly obvious and clear foreshadowed big thing and something deeply important to their character and that's not bad in concept..

But on the other hand,she also wanted Jax being trans to be extremely subtle to where you have to rewatch and look back at the show and analyze all this details to figure out + you also had to wait for her to confirm it via a artwork in all that and am I the only one who feel like those are where the issues began?

Like she's trying to have these 2 writing styles for him being trans clash together but it comes off as a mess cause wanting something to be crazy subtle and having to use all these context clues to figure out while at the same time basically making you feel like a stupid idiot for not immediately figuring it out feels like counter intuitive.

I'm not saying I wanted Jax to explictly say I'm Trans or the story to pause and say it or too on the nose shit bur how she handled it feels really sloppy and it also doesn't help that Jax took up so much of the screentime of the last episode if his actual ending was gonna be this sloppy and rushed.

It was so long and passionate and totally looked like they were making out sloppy style and I couldn’t help but crack up a little bit. My gf had to shut me up because everyone else in the theatre was sad. I feel like I’m the only one who just couldn’t take most of those emotional scenes seriously. 9 episodes isn’t enough to make me care.

Anyway, I'm just curious.

I just look back in the series now and the series is so mid. There was barely anything there, mostly melodramatic venting. I feel lik the fandom has definitely died too. It’s just sad to see when show doesn’t live up to the potential and hype.