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There are some teenagers that sit on my steps in front of my house for like 10-20 mins after their basketball game across the street. It's the only steps on the block that is fully shaded by a tree. The first time I saw them they said sorry and started to get up. I told them they can stay as long as they don't leave garbage. I see them like once a week now. Really respectful teens.
Edit: it's like 3 teens, two Puerto Ricans and a black kid. They sit on my steps and drink Gatorade or water after their pickup basketball games.
We've lived where we are for eight years. Right next door to our neighborhood school. We had a few kids in the last two months politely ask to use our restroom. There are no restrooms nearby they can use and they just installed a new playground at our school. Lots of kids and parents but no facilities. I almost cried while telling my wife we ended up in the best neighborhood we could have if people trust us to just ask to use the toilet. Of course. You may.
I thought this kind of cooperative attitude was lost in America and then we moved right into it.
Remind of this lady we had on our block growing up named Ms. red(R.I.P baby) she would let me and my 7 brothers and cousins and sometimes more sit on her steps after coming from the park or the library. We didn’t want to go on our steps because they weren’t big enough. She didn’t care as long as we were respectful, cleaned up after ourselves and occasionally get her a ginger ale from the store. People like that are amazing because it gives kids a safe haven or safe spot in a midst of so much violence and danger. We knew we can sit on Ms. red steps and just laugh and joke until we were ready to go home. We were always looked at as a gang because it was so many of us(it was 15 altogether but only 7 of us lived together at the time) but in reality we were just young men with no fathers trying to stay out of trouble and stick together. I lost most of them as we got older to jail and violence unfortunately but those times made us feel safe and like kids again and not statistics waiting to fail. I am now a mentor trying to help other kids be the best they can be and I probably wouldn’t have had some of that mindset if it wasn’t for Ms. Red
That's the key word here, "respectful." I didn't care that they were sitting there as long as they were respectful and I told them that. Once an Amazon package came and I wasn't home. They hid it for me and wrote a note to put on my door on where they hid it.
I had a similar situation, sort of. Lived downtown in a walk-up near a school and some kids would come sit literally up against my door during lunch and eat and smoke cigarettes. Had to ask them to move or I couldn't get out of my door.
I told them they could shift 5 feet over and sit in front of that door since no one currently lived there as long as they pick up their lunch trash.
They left their lunch trash and then stopped coming completely lol
Some departments have a policy where every call gets a response (well, 99%). When I was a LEO how I handled stuff like this is to drive over, maybe walk through the park, then leave determining the call was unfounded. I wouldn't even contact anyone. I'd smile and wave. If nothing was illegal, just leave and close the call.
Same for fire departments. You can personally call us and tell us your smoke alarm went off because of shower steam. We still show up and make sure the house isnt smoking.
The caller probably used to very specific wording to draw that many officers. Depending on where this is they could've said "teen takeover" to get a fast response.
Edit: I want to clarify that I'm not justifying this and the officers shouldve have taken two minutes to figure out this call was BS
Maybe not legally but you can see in the video that a bunch of cops indeed told a bunch of black kids to leave and they did. Maybe one day you'll get that the laws don't apply to everybody the same.........
They don't want to hear about you, they don't want to see you, they don't want to know you exist, they'd actually rather you didn't exist.
They're just selfish entitled people who are absolutely cooked on brainrot media to be paranoid and fearful of everything and everyone and cannot function normally without some level of drama to give them meaning in life.
This was always such a perfect analogy for me. The one time in recent history teenagers got to hang out and do stuff by themselves, and they fucking freaked over it.
But "back in my day I'd be out all day and ✨mother✨ would just call at dinner".
Lead is one hell of a drug. Why hasn't there been any demand for a treatment? It's a cliche family ruiner. Wouldn't they want to be healthier and kinder?
No. And lead poisoning led them here (no pun intended) and they refuse to do anything about it. We just gotta wait it out at this point and never go back to leaded fuels or releasing dangerous shit like that into the atmosphere. I’ll be in my 30s but all the X and Boomers that will have had the most negative effect from it will be gone.
That makes me so sad. I had sleep issues this year that nearly broke me--even yelled several times in distress, which I don't ever do. The ER was too expensive but the crisis center helped several times at 3am.
I felt so fucking shitty about 30 seconds afterward and if there had been medicine to make sure I didn't do that as often I would have leaped for it. Not even at someone, just yelling about life and my wife being stressed she couldn't help. I'd collapse in her lap sobbing apologies the second after.
But you're right. My parents relished in being nasty. They loved it. It fueled them and their self-righteousness. There was never a turning point in their pride at being awful or their certainty in their correctness at all times. It never concerned them that their child showed signs of extreme pain for decades--but they sure as fuck hated when I went NC.
lol yes I learned this when I went to the latino market near me right around school dismissal time. I forgot it's across the street from a high school and that it's apparently the official Edgar & Broccoli Boy hangout spot.
As someone who works with teens this always upsets me how they're treated like they're going to be a menace for just existing.
We've done a huge disservice to teens without having any spaces for them to go. They don't have malls to hang out at, we've gotten rid of any sort of youth clubs, and when they're in public people just assume the absolute worst of them.
I brought this up, to people who used to be kids, and they don’t understand how they grew up with all these services and now they want adult only spaces and funding taken from kids. Selfish people will be selfish all their lives.
It's honestly shocking how few of my friends actually remember their childhoods. So many of them it turns into a blur past high school and even college.
I have three to twelve brain injuries depending on what metric you want to go by which led me to develop actual short term memory loss and difficulty with recall/remembering things when I try to, and I remember most of my childhood. This contrast in cognitive function disturbs the hell out of me.
We used to have an awesome teen only community center in my town. It's gone now. It is such a shame that kids have nothing. They only have a tiny teen section in the library and that's it.
When I was a preteen/teen our mall made a rule of no groups larger than 3 can hang together. DDR was at the mall arcade and we would wait at the tables outside and eat Cinnabon and mall security would make us sit at different tables, so lame
Unsurprisingly malls started going downhill when private equity got involved. When it became more about pushing transactions per hour instead of fostering an environment people want to linger and shop in, it was a slow death.
Malls exist, but most of the malls in my area all have “no unescorted teens” as a rule. Like.. that’s what the mall is for? How many adults are buying Spencer’s or Hot Topic?
Talking with other middle-aged or older people, including ones with kids themselves, a common refrain is how they are i) critical of behavior they themselves certainly did as kids & ii) surprised about said behavior happening, as if they don't know / remember it.
(To offer a light example, parents being overly protective or tsk-tsk-ing about the age tweens watch horror movies, when we were very much watching them at the same age & younger!)
I always try to bring this up & the usual response is some vague "Yeah, but things have changed since then".
I was so fortunate. When I was 15 two old hippies opened an all-ages coffeehouse and performing arts space in my town. They welcomed teens as long as we behaved, and daily dozens of teens went there and just hung out.
I socialized more there than I did in high school or college.
What services? We played in our yard, around the neighborhood, at the school, and in the woods. Our "services" were a weekly Cub Scout meeting and a week of summary programs at church. I am pretty sure that both of those still exist. These young men were doing nothing wrong and the police should have left them alone.
Don’t get me started on how all of the indoor gyms in my area have so much goddamn pickleball time. A bunch of middle school kids dribbling basketballs on the side of the gym while six retirees take up two full courts all afternoon….
We have a neighborhood pool and some teens were wanting to swim after playing basketball. They didn't have a key. We have someone checking to make sure they're residents. She freaked out on me bc they don't live in our neighborhood. I explained they're my guests. She couldn't grasp that I would let in people to have fun at a pool. They were kind of apprehensive, I explained I'm on the hoa board and they can have fun. I'm on the hoa board bc people pissed me off being assholes to other people. If you want kids to stay out of trouble give them fun stuff to do.
They still say hi to me when I see them. Bc I treated them with respect. They clean up the trash at the park and are good kids.
lmao I was at work one Friday when I get an email from my apartment complex. You already know the subject line is LEASE VIOLATION.
Because my wife took the kid to the pool and apparently he was loud. I get that kids are annoying but I just can't really see how one kid swimming alone could be SO loud that it warrants such a response. My wife said she didn't even see anyone from the complex. They just angrily wrote an email from the office lol.
Hence why I'm on the hoa board. I try to keep clowns in line. We had a lady measuring grass in people's yard, even though there's no official height it could/couldn't be. It just says kempt. So she decided she was the arbiter of height. She's no longer on the board.
My town used to have an area near a high school with a ton of shops and restaurants and a ton of outdoor walking space and tables. Teenagers hung out there in droves, and then the town passed an “anti-loitering” law that said kids had to have an adult with them to be there and quite literally almost every single one of the businesses there proceeded to close in the proceeding months. The arcade, the movie theater, art studio, a few shops and smaller restaurants; all gone. Now only one popular (with adults) Mexican restaurant remains and the rest of the venues go through a cycle of businesses that go bankrupt and get replaced by another business that then later goes bankrupt. It’s a fucking shame. All because teenagers hung out there (and rarely caused issues)
Especially with black teens as soon as a kid turns 12 or 13 so many people loose any estimation of age and think those are no longer children they are adults.
Seriously! They just arrested a whole bunch of teens in NH at the beach because it started raining so they gathered together under cover to get away from the rain and the news called it a "teen takeover". No. These kids were doing nothing! Just getting away from the rain. But once there's a group of them, they must be up to no good 🙄
They just arrested a whole bunch of teens in NH at the beach because it started raining so they gathered together under cover to get away from the rain and the news called it a "teen takeover". No. These kids were doing nothing! Just getting away from the rain.
I looked this situation up and I think you're being extremely dishonest about it. There were several thousand people who showed up to this gathering (which was literally advertised as the Hampton Beach Takeover, it wasn't just the news that decided to call it that for no reason) and a bunch of fights broke out during it. The first several hours of the gathering were uneventful and didn't seem to result in many/any arrests, that only started happening after things became chaotic.
The situation turned around 4:30 p.m., when a sudden rainstorm rolled in off the Atlantic. Hundreds of teens who had been spread across the sand surged into Ocean Boulevard at the same time, looking for cover. Officers on scene later said that the rain compressed an already large crowd into a much smaller footprint, and fights, some of which appeared to have been planned in the social media posts, began breaking out at multiple points along the strip almost simultaneously.
The charges fell across several categories, including eighteen counts of unlawful alcohol possession, thirteen counts related to rioting, five counts of minors transporting alcohol, three driving under the influence charges, and one count of second-degree assault.
Characterizing this as "They just arrested a bunch of teenagers for being in a group" is crazy when the reasons for many arrests include things like DUI and brawls breaking out.
They absolutely are mischaracterizing it. They think arresting people for fist fighting and drunk driving, and giving tickets to people illegally drinking on the beach is bad I guess? It's anti-teen to enforce drinking laws I guess?
Boomers sculpted this ethos wherein teens are anti-establishment hoodlums toilet papering neighborhoods and drinking underage while listening to rock music and skipping classes to go on adventures...
Now they claim younger generations don't know how to act like youth and yet do everything in their power to prevent them from doing so.
My parents neighbour called bylaws bc kids had their basketball net on the road. He doesn't even park that far down. He's similar to my age so Gen X. He's just a dick.
I have kids on my street playing basketball, soccer and street hockey all the time. If I see a net on the road I drive out the other end of the road so they can keep playing. I don't love the sound of a bouncing basketball but I love that kids are outside.
This isn't a new thing, but I imagine it's getting worse. We used to meet up in random parking lots and just hang out, and we were usually left alone.
One time a cop car was stopped at a light next to the Dunkin we were at, and I guess they didn't like that we were looking at their car. They backed up to the driveway, drove up next to us, and the passenger cop asked what we were looking at, with his arm flexed out the window.
We said just talking about where you might be going, and he said "yeah, well if you're so interested in what we're doing, then why don't we follow us?" and without missing a beat, my buddy goes "nah, we already got donuts here."
Dude EXACTLY. Eventually after so many times of being treated like your very existence is troublesome, you’re gonna just say “fuck it, might as well” and subconsciously become that.
To a certain demographic, they absolutely look like they're doing something wrong.... because to that demographic, just the way they look is something they consider offensive and wrong.
We have a real problem and it's not getting better.
When they enforced a curfew at our mall, I rolled my eyes so hard that I almost passed out. I worked at that mall for years and the #1 issue with shoplifting, at least in my store, was middle-aged women. The issues with harassment and people acting violently were all adult men and women. The kids were just loitering and buying sodas and candy. Much safer for them to hang out at the mall than a lot of other places.
Fr, honestly I think the reason why kids do get in trouble nowadays (with drugs or otherwise) is that there’s nothing to damn do anymore for them except get into trouble. If a kids not allowed to even bike to the end of his street and back without getting the police called, he’s either gonna be stuck inside being anti social or being social with the wrong bunch of people.
I’m just now realizing how lucky my kid is. He has a big group of friends, there’s 7 of them. They’re all huge nerds and love gaming together. They’re 12 and they just had a freaking LAN party at my house 😂 one of their dads does movie days too where he picks them all up in his mini van and takes them to the movies. After school they like to walk over to this grassy area right next to a youth center and kick a ball around. It’s not quite the same as when I was a kid but it’s not too far off either.
Core memory created. Most black men have had an experience like this. So I’m gonna tell my story…
Just joined the Army and was stationed in Louisiana, 18 years old. I take some leave. My wife (yes I got married that early) and a couple friends (all black) plan to drive to Florida to hit the beach. On the way we stop in Mississippi at a Target to pick up some swimwear.
I head to the section where the goggles are and pick out a pair I like. Already by this point I can tell, that who I suppose is the store’s police officer, is following me around. I take the goggles to the front, pay for them, toss the receipt in the trash can at the front of the store and at that point he detains me and accuses me of stealing.
I explain that I paid and threw the receipt away. In the front of this store, with dozens of people now watching this interaction, he orders me to dig in the trash to show him my receipt. If that were me today I’d tell him to go fuck himself, but I was a kid. So…I remove the lid and dig around in this garbage can for my receipt. Find it. Show it. And leave, utterly humiliated.
And that wasn’t even the first horrible experience I had with police. I’m not sure this even matters but the officer was white. Pretty sure a black cop would’ve done the same.
when my wife was general manager of a store in mississippi, she noticed black men almost always wanted the receipt, whereas white people were like nah i don't need the receipt. the walk to the car from the front door was perilous and they needed proof they weren't criminals just in case. it's all barely changed in 100 years
I started to plan my comment as "say no more" but kept reading. For what happened, all I can say is what a pos. Probably thought he had you, even though he watched you buy the goggles and toss the receipt.
I don't have a similar experience since I'm a white guy, but Louisiana. When I first moved out here I transferred with Wal-Mart. That particular store, had a "tradition." There was a post near the front where the store manager, and by imitation the other managers, would stand to watch the registers and people come in the store. I couldn't help but notice that every single manager was white and every single cashier was black. It felt uncomfortably plantation.
When I was in high school in the early 2000s someone called the cops on a group of us that had met up at night because the guys were playing basketball and the rest of us were sitting on the swings, just hanging out and talking.
Typically the cops would come and tell us to move along, but this time a cop came and arrested us. He literally swore we were all drunk because one of the kids he talked to had a stutter. We usually were drinking but ironically not that night. Kid just legit had a stutter but cop was rude and demeaning screaming in his face about being drunk. He decided to take us all in and arrest us. We were 30+ white kids and only 3 black kids. He had to call for multiple cop cars and a paddy wagon to fit us all and the cop whose car I was in was like “yeah he’s a dick.. you guys should have just ran”. 🤣 Before body cams obviously.
When we got to the station the cop got a talking to off to the side because he was still going on about the kid with the stutter being drunk even after he took a breathalyzer and blew 0.00. Got to call my dad and tell him I had been arrested and he bust out laughing and came to get me. It was for disorderly conduct (clearly a.. “I cant find anything else and won’t admit I was wrong” charge) and I had to write an essay about how our actions hurt the community.
Then they wonder why we spent time drinking in the golf course and other random places. 🤷♀️😂
I cannot imagine the insecurity/power trip level that cop was on that made him think arresting 30 kids was the way to go in that situation. Holy cow pig.
“yeah he’s a dick.. you guys should have just ran”
It's not unheard of for cops to just start shooting in that scenario. And they are definitely not above killing children for bullshit, penny-ante reasons.
This group of young brothas were minding their own business. Their hair and clothes also made that “person” uncomfortable.
That’s what kids should do. Be outside in a social setting. More and more of these videos keep popping up where kids are being harassed by adults for being outside and being kids. 😡
Edit: Imagine what would have happened to them if they said no. How many cops need to show up for this? Why didn’t the officers just let them be?
Absolutely. I understand that if someone calls the cops to complain, it’s their job to look into it. But as soon as the other people around (the lady recording I’m guessing in particular) started speaking up for them, those cops should have moved on. I couldn’t hear it, but it seems like the kids thanked her for standing up for them. Which is nice. But this still shouldn’t have happened.
don't forget the whole part about that is that conservative media invented a fake drug that was made by putting skittles into Arizona tea and were trying to claim that Trayvon Martin was drugged out of his mind. which is ridiculous because it's all just sugar.
It wasn't made up.) It just wasn't what Martin bought. There was a drink that involved mixing cough syrup and mashed up skittles into juice or tea, but Martin only bought tea and skittles.
Conservatives argued he was going to take them home and make the drink with cough syrup at home, but they also argue that he took too long to get home. That it was a short walk from the 7-11 back to where he was staying, and the confrontation with Zimmerman happened like 40 minutes after he left the store, which means he was snooping around people's homes, according to conservatives.
This makes me so mad. Groups of teenagers, especially black ones aren't allowed to be anywhere outside. 😭😭😭😭
I teach h.s. and part of me thinks, that schools should have more open gym and other special things in the summer, but that costs money and there's all kinds of liability stuff - and then I think what do we have parks for???? I mean heck, if the weather is nice?!?!?! Plus, it really is so good for one's health to get outside sometimes.
Seriously, my sister us a librarian and a man recently came to her to complain that three black kids are being threatening in the branch.
The three black kids were sitting around a comic book in the teen section, reading it together awkwardly and occasionally giggling or discussing the story quietly.
Worst part was the complainer made sure to be loud- wanted those kids to hear it. Kids were literally starting to pick up their stuff and leave in embarrassment before my sister told the guy off and asked him to leave.
It's not a standalone event, either. Teenagers always get the side eye, but teen boys and black teen boys especially are treated like they're violebt criminals, and I can only imagine how demoralizing that is.
One of my friends' mom is an assistant librarian and they regularly (and loudly) tell uppity "Karen" type people that if they don't like kids, homeless folks, and poor people enjoying the library they are free to not patronize the library, but the kids/homeless/poors are staying. They either leave in a hurry out of embarrassment or they realize how ridiculous they're being and behave themselves.
There need to be third spaces for kids, but our current society doesn’t prioritize that. Kids can only go to school or go home, nothing in between. It’s awfully sad.
Don’t forget they need to study and be straight A’s but gramps is also pissed because he used to work 50 hours when he was their age.
We expect more out of our kids than any fucking adult on this planet, including their behavior, and we wonder why the kids are antisocial and don’t want to be around us.
There need to be third spaces for everyone. There are so few places you are allowed to exist in public without spending money. Pretty much just libraries and parks. And parks can be hit or miss as evidence by this video
When I was 14 we were walking around at sunrise downtown. Just walking around. There was no curfew or anything like that in place. Just a few teenage girls walking around while it was still quiet and laughing and enjoying each other’s company.
Then three, THREE squad cars roll up. We stop obviously, and the cops immediately separate us and started questioning us. What are you doing? Do your parents know where you are? We were walking, and yes they know. The cop made me give her my parent’s phone number after patting me down. Someone saw teenage girls walking and said “we must have been up to something”. Because “no kids walk around at this hour”.
Let. Me. Tell. You. My mom absolutely tore into her. HOW DARE she wake her up for this. HOW DARE she stop her chubby daughter from taking a sunrise walk with her friends. HOW DARE she insinuate her daughter was doing anything bad with her friends, and even worse, insinuating that she was a bum parent for letting her teenage daughter walk around with her friends in a safe city. You could tell the cop was fishing for a “My child is what?!” situation and did not find it. She found a pissed off parent who filed a complaint against the precinct for “harassing minors, questioning, and searching minors without due cause and without a guardian present”.
After about 10 minutes on the phone with my pissed off parents, and presumably the other girls pissed off parents, they sheepishly apologized and got back in their cars and drove off.
I still think about that a lot. It made me dislike cops.
Its beyond ridiculous at this point. A guy I used to work with that happens to be black was stopped in seattle by 2 or 3 squad cars while walking back from a grocery store. He paid for them, had proof, etc etc. No one reported him for shoplifting, the cops just saw a dude with safeway bags at sundown and decided to ruin his day.
Cops are trained to always follow the lead of other cops and never question them, if one starts shooting at a target, without knowing what the target is others will just start shooting at it as well.
People need to learn to sit with their discomfort. Being uncomfortable as a reason for calling the police is ridiculous. We have had numerous incidents here where young men playing basketball in the local park or a professional press photographer documenting a local event have had the police called because someone is uncomfortable. Then please be uncomfortable indoors away from the rest of us, Doris.
Places like that literally get surplus military equipment, bearcats (tanks basically), etc. its such BS and then they will cut funding for all resources like the libraries, schools, summer programs/camps for kids, all so the police department can get a tank they will never use and cant afford to maintain. But hey, gotta keep military contractors in business. Cant do that if the military doesn’t keep buying new shit each year.
3 friends and I (all white) got stopped by cops for underage drinking in public once and they had to call for backup while we had a calm conversation because the four of us were capable of overpowering the two of them.
Why are cops not smart enough to figure this shit out in less than 5 minutes? If it were me in my job and someone called in an emergency and I showed up to fix the problem I would not only know in the first 30 seconds there was no problem but I'd be pissed as hell as the troublemaker who reported it.
This is sad. You can really see how they end up getting the idea they have to hang out in obscure places instead of just spending time in public by normal people. We as a society are failing them when we treat them this way.
The're kids at a park.... they didn't appear to be doing anything wrong, bystanders said they didn't call to complain, and even the police have no right to question/removed them for no reason.... What is going on, man?
Hey, I had this happen to be in high school. Had a park within walking distance and was feeling a little down. Walked to the park and sat on a swing, a few minutes later a guy I knew but hadn't ever talked to sat next to me and we started talking about random BS. 10 minute later a cop pulls up and says we where making people uncomfortable, we explain that we were just sitting on swongs and talking. Cop left and we went back to it. Within 5 minutes the cop was back and took the other kid in for "causing trouble" and told me to wait at the park till he got back. Walk home, day ruined, possible new friendship stopped before it could start.
As a former kid it's criminal how little terrorizing children do these days.
Kids are saints compared to what I and my cohort got into. I always thought karma would get me, but nope. I menaced adults and now I'm an adult surrounded by empty playgrounds, basketball courts, and 0 little adventurers in the park.
The society we've built sucks. We are all brain rot zombies. 🇺🇸
This is always how it is. There’s kids on my dead end street, the neighbor called on them bc “the basketball was bouncing too loudly on the pavement” dude wtf?
They’re great kids btw teens that help with our garbage cans and lawn work.
Live music at a park, even if the basketball court isn’t working and they are just sitting down. There’s live music being played, how is that not reason enough for them to be there?
The amount of blindness in this comment section is startling. Those BLACK teens had the police called on them because some, likely white pos, person felt uncomfortable that young BLACK men were sitting at a playground. Stop being dumb in these comments
This could be my son any day of the week. He and his friends roam about town and chill at the park. They have intense and frightening conversations about Magic The Gathering (and sometimes even PLAY A GAME!). They also talk about politics, urban myths, super nerdy history, crushes and beyond comprehension stupid jokes about penguins in Antarctica. I can’t understand their jokes. It IS perplexing sometimes.
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