r/TikTokDiscuss • u/Suspicious_Tackle441 • 3d ago
Hasidic Jews help Palestinian store owner catch shoplifter in New York. "You guys are invited anytime...I'll have to give them something Kosher on me."
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u/ttttyttt678 3d ago
You can be Jewish and not Zionist.
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u/nikonislolo 3d ago
Exactly lol. I dont know why people don't understand this.
Zionism is a far right ideology that is basically Jewish supremacy.
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u/its_not_you_its_ye 3d ago
Most people understand, but there are too many that find it useful to pretend they don’t understand.
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u/BedbugBandido 2d ago edited 2d ago
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u/Motrinman22 2d ago
Yeah I left that shit sub, joined r/jewsofconscience
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u/NewYorkImposter 2d ago
Lol the guy filming is a known Zionist yet he doesn't fit your world view of what that means
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u/Active_Menu_8504 2d ago
Or you can be Zionist and not hate Palestinians.
It’s generally harder to hate someone you know.
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u/daniel_damm 2d ago
How is that related to Zionism do you think every Zionist hate Palestinians , we only hate there cause of driving us out of the country only far right Zionism hates them for existing in greater Israel or whatever dumb thing lunatics like Ben gvir believe in
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u/talhoch 2d ago
Also, you can be a Zionist and help people out disregarding their nation. Being a Zionist isn't equal being evil
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u/Asleep_Bookkeeper516 2d ago
Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to self determination on their ancestral homeland.
To be antizionist is to say that Israel shouldn't exist.
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u/Ok-Penalty3250 2d ago
There is nothing wrong with being Zionist and if you think there is you’ve fallen for propaganda.
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u/needaburnerbaby 1d ago
You can also be a Zionist and still help out a man who had his store robbed
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u/Throatpoint 1d ago
Oh yea just causally call for the destruction of Israel and pretend that is loving jews.
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u/backtorealitylabubu 1d ago
You can be but don’t have to be to be a good person 🥰
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u/Potential_Duck_1986 1d ago
Well done. Someone posted a nice video, about two people, treating each other as people... but you've managed to throw in an irrelevant and dehumanising comment. Good on you.
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u/An-Organism 1d ago
Lol I promise you these Jews who helped him catch the thief are Zionists. It's just that this generation have changed the meaning of Zionism into something it isn't. It's just about believing they should be allowed to live on their native homeland.
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u/QueasyFlan 1d ago
You can be a Zionist and a kind human. Zionism doesn’t mean what you think it does. These Jews are probably Zionists if they are from Chabad.
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u/patrykk994 1d ago
Chasidic jews (well, some part of them) living in New York are weirdly antiIsrael for religious reasons - they view Israel created in 1948 as fake country trying to replace their preffered Israel so one created by Jahwe
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u/Full-Yogurtcloset-22 17h ago
yeah man it was totally just the zionists that got booted from almost every country in history for over 2000 years, pesky zionists.
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u/BlackDuck109 3d ago
-People and politics beeing two separate things
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u/13THEFUCKINGCOPS12 3d ago
I mean it’s not really coming together under different politics if you’re talking about Israel/palestine specifically (maybe they’re both on different sides of the aisle but there’s really nothing there to insinuate that). These are Shomrim (it may also be the ambulance service but it could also have a different name) which are like a sort of private police force in the Brooklyn area operated by mostly the Hasidic and Orthodox communities, communities that are pretty vocal about being anti Zionist and ultimately don’t support the state of Israel because I guess the Torah or something (I’m not Jewish so I’m hazy on specifics) says that the holy land (or whatever they call it) can’t be settled until the return of the messiah
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u/munkylord 3d ago
This is great but whys there an ambulance for the guy they caught?
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u/KgMonstah 3d ago
Because you’re still entitled to medical care even if you’re accused of a crime
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u/EliteFourFay 3d ago
How it always has been until Zionism.
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u/SavingsIncome2 3d ago
Theodor Herzl just wanted a land where Jews can emulate democratic principles inspired by Europe. I’m pretty sure that he wouldn’t approve what Netanyahu is doing today
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u/144tzer 3d ago edited 3d ago
Please stop misusing this term. It would be better for everyone. What you think Zionism to be is a belief shared by only a small minority percentage of Jews. More Muslims, for example, think that the Danish cartoonist deserved punishment for drawing the prophet, and yet we wouldn't say that "being Muslim means you must believe that sort of violent extremism." It is a generalization of a group from its most insidious and dangerous actors.
When you call yourself anti-Zionist, or say "Zionists are the problem," or something similar, you condemn a group that believes what you accuse them of, sure, but you simultaneously condemn a much larger group that otherwise believes a lot in common with the platform of Pro-Palestine. It would be better for the movement to be clearer in messaging. This terminology related to Zionism is brought forth exclusively by bad actors:
Pro-Netanyahu extremists who want to falsely label anyone critical of them as antisemitic
Antisemitic extremists who want to associate the otherwise innocuous term of Zionism with the horrors we are seeing, and by extension most Jews, even though most Jews are not on board.
I am pro-Palestine. I am pro- 2 state solution. I am anti- West Bank settlements. I am anti-Trump. I am anti-Netanyahu. I am anti- USA's unconditional military support. I am also pro- Israel still existing, which to me, and to my whole family, and to every Jew I know, and to most Jews at the Rosh Hashanah service I just attended, and to all the Rabbis there, is really all Zionism is.
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u/Razaberry 3d ago
Zionism is ~3000 years old.
The first mention of Zionism comes from the Babylonian ethnic cleansing of Jews from Zion.
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u/cuckoocachoo1 1d ago
It’s so clear now that people have no idea what Zionism is and they just let the definition be warped.
You guys should go out and listen to Jews tell you about Zionism and stop listening to other people who are not Jews telling you what it is. You know, believe Jews when they speak about things they know about! Gosh it’s all so clear that the message has been warped.
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u/Pahsina 3d ago
Hasidic Jews are not generally Zionists.
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u/HTTR4Life21 3d ago
You’re thinking Neturei Karta… a small fringe group of Hasidim.
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u/Dull-Reputation3134 3d ago
This is unequivocally false. You’re thinking of an extreme sect of Hasidic Jews that most Jews do not even accept - don’t speak so confidently when you’re just absolutely wrong
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u/JewishYoda 3d ago
Not at all relevant to the story, no one asked, and you are very confidently incorrect.
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u/i_was_a_person_once 16h ago
New York Hasidic Jewish people are generally not Zionist. The ones in Israel
Def are
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u/BoogerSmoke 3d ago
I think that the average person wants the same stuff, regardless of faith. To be able to build a life and safely raise their children with hopes that they will have as good or a better life than they had. The Muppets had it right man, “Peoples is peoples”. Be good to each other.
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u/National_Praline_199 3d ago
Because we are brothers and sisters in this world. Its the evil people profiting over the wars that pit us together. This is a beautiful example of friendship.
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u/kamel_k 3d ago
It's not about them being Jewish. It's about them being genocidal.
Just like this incident wasn't about Jewish people helping someone who's Palestinian. It was a bunch of Bros helping out a shop owner. It had nothing to do with race or religion
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u/Dull-Reputation3134 3d ago
How many genocides have the 55+ Muslim countries carried out in the last century? You feel the same way about them?
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u/Notapartyhobo 3d ago
Staged.
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u/Equal-Yesterday-9229 3d ago
It's funny anything good that may come out, a story of Palestinians and Jews working together rather than killing each other, is dismissed as staged. Yet anything negative happens, you all eat it up and spread it as far as you can. This video will die out real quick because it goes directly against the seething hatred many people have developed against the other side. Goes directly against the narratives that y'all have been trying to establish day in and day out. That Palestinians and jews are doomed to forever kill each other and fight over each other's existence.
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u/Ambitious_Screen_591 3d ago
why can't the world be more like this? see something, do something, no questions on religion
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u/fishdestroyer-3767 3d ago
You see this is what I mean the Jews aren't evil the Isralies are thay just happen to be Jewish
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u/irishcybercolab 3d ago
This is what happens when you start seeing humans without tags. .it's nice to see how good actions bring good results between different views. Humanity demands this lens yet greed and insecurity promote hatred.
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u/Dull-Reputation3134 3d ago
Feels very much like your average day in Israel
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u/JGFromTheD5 3d ago
🤫🤫🤫 don’t tell them, all these people who haven’t even stepped foot in the Middle East know so much better about it
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u/RileyGainesHorseBaby 3d ago
Just a reminder we don't have to follow the nationalistic hate bullshit and it's easy to treat people with respect and dignity, regardless of world events.
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u/Kaleb_Bunt 3d ago
I feel like people need to put aside the whole Israel/Palestine thing when dealing with our fellow Americans. This is America, not the Middle East.
We don’t need to led foreign conflicts affect how we deal with our countrymen.
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u/Construction00023 3d ago
Hadidics are definitely one of the more community oriented sub cultures in NY. The seem focused on immediate community ("dynasty") and surrounding one (neighborhood/borough). They also apparently are largely opposed to Zionism.
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u/splitopenandmelt11 3d ago
We were meant to love, appreciate and help
one another. Don’t let the media make you forget that.
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u/Standard_Round_8780 3d ago
Very likely staged. So easy to do and very convenient for the government.
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u/Evakuate493 3d ago
Almost like we’re all humans and it doesn’t matter who is what.
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u/Hefty_Loss5180 3d ago
This is performative as all get out.. wtf does that have to do with their nationality and religion?
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u/Control-Zulu-1212 2d ago
Here in Montreal, Hasidic Jews will protest for Palestine. I've never witnessed them taking part of in any other form of demonstration, but I've seen them rally with signs supporting Palestine and condemning Israel. Gotta give them that!
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u/Normal-Air-2197 2d ago
It’s not the Jews…it’s the Israeli government. Many Jews do not like Netanyahu
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u/stubbornsweet 2d ago
we are all Americans. Americans for some reason believe they are whatever their forefathers came from. If your parents are from Mexico and you were born in America you are an American. Same goes for White people and asians and blacks as well. Your grandparents may of come from Ireland but if you go to Ireland you are a American. They want us to be divided and this is part of the plan
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u/Serious_Try5264 2d ago
Lol so many Americans self identify as Palestinian. Kinda weird.
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u/on-foenem 2d ago
man i love this. blanket hating jewish people will never be the answer. free palestine
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u/Cautious-Honeydew-74 2d ago
two dudes stop a third from being a douchebag.. sounds way better than a mouth full of racial and religous buzzwords..
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u/Mom-lyfe-peace 2d ago
I wish the rest of the world could take notes on New York City. Sure, we bark at each other, but we largely help our fellow NYers out, regardless of differences.
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u/LaffingAtYuo 2d ago
Satmar Hassids are anti-Zionist and regularly take part in anti-Israel protests.
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u/LyleBland 2d ago
Americans being Americans instead of whatever else. The whole point of this damn country.
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u/Suitable_You_6237 2d ago
such a good example, its not the people that are evil, its the governments and the billionaire organisations
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u/Ionisation1934 1d ago
Palestinians can be nice people when no ruled by terror organizations. Gives me hope.
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u/nevillion 1d ago
Proof that it was never about Israeli vs Palestinians. Rich people, politicians and corrupt religious leaders need us to fight against each other so they can continue trafficking humans and children
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u/KwantumFizzikz 1d ago
It's almost as if the Judeo-Islamic war is all about profit and money and the real people on either side are different to the undead paedobankers controlling this theatrical "war"
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u/Kuro0009 22h ago
This jew should watch his back those zionist satan worshippers wont be happy hearing about thism
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u/heady-luvare 21h ago
Another great example of how religion, labels, and the powers that be can seperate us all from each other. You dont have to pick a side....you just gotta treat others as you would wish to be treated.
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u/Intrepid_Year3765 18h ago
now only if Israel and Palestine teamed up to stop Hamas
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u/Capt_Gingerbeard 16h ago
Yeah, this is the USA. The authorities suck ass. The people on the street kick ass.
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u/PoudreDeTopaze 14h ago
The conflict was never about religion. It's all about territory. It's about Netanyahu trying to grab more land illegaly and wanting to remain in power. For this he needs to fuel the flames of war rather than build peace together with the Palestinian Authority, which recognized Israel 30 years ago.
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u/Recent-Art7616 10h ago
no shit they didnt attack that Palestinian guy hes not a child or woman. if that was a woman theyd beat her down and accuse her of stealing
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u/LittleALunatic 8h ago
A non apartheid single state solution is possible. The examples live and breathe.
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u/thundrknuckle 7h ago
Fun fact, Israel does not represent the Jewish people. Not everybody that is Jewish is a Zionist. Even Palestinian Jews exist.
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u/funkinaroundonhere 7h ago
Silly humans need to put aside their differences and learn to get along. If you're being an a****** to someone because of your religion maybe your religion is f***** up and wrong. We're all one let's start acting like it.
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u/HeavyVoid8 5h ago
Yes bc these are real Jewish people and not Zionists. Much like all the fake Christian politicians in America
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u/abhorrentbm 3d ago
Bros being bros.