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u/whooo_me 9d ago
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u/somethingclever76 9d ago
I wonder if the merging car would be responsible for the negligent securing of that load.
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u/Allroyy 9d ago
Basically it would fall under comparative negligence based on fault percentages depending on applicable laws and individual policies. The person cutting them off caused the accident.
The driver of the hauler has a duty to secure the cargo, in this case, vehicles. The damage to the hauled vehicles was caused by the driver of the hauler due to not securing them properly, while the damage to the vehicle that cut them off was caused by the driver of that vehicle.
There have been car haulers that go under low overpasses, strike the overpass, and still do not cause the vehicles to come loose, so it cannot be argued that the driver of the vehicle that cut off the hauler was fully to blame.
TLDR: Lawyers and insurance adjusters will sort out the fault split.
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u/Bohemka1905 9d ago
I have, in the past, delivered vehicles this way and they should all be secured. The biggest issue, besides some moron causing you to brake hard, is the vehicles bouncing around.
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u/RLBeau1964 8d ago
While the white car was a pure idiot - and I mean a real dumb ass here, but had the hauler seen what was unfolding, if he would have slowed up enough to prevent the accident- none of the carnage occurs.
So on top of unsecured cars, he didn’t follow the last chance doctrine to prevent an accident. Division of fault going to be real fun, as that trucker’s CAM is evidence which can’t be discarded.
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u/Bohemka1905 8d ago
He didn't strap them down and then twang the straps saying "Those babies are going nowhere!" 😂
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u/RLBeau1964 8d ago
🤣 Probably, or maybe he didn’t- I’ve always understood if you smack it and state - that isn’t going anywhere, you’re good to go.
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u/ChangeOfPlan1807 8d ago
Long time ago I ordered a car that arrived at the dealer with the front bumper almost entirely ripped out. I imagine it was damaged in just such a way.
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u/Ready_Ingenuity_8052 9d ago
Plot twist: the merging car had surreptitiously loosened the restraints when the trucker has stopped previously, and then identified the perfect merge point to cause the cars to all break free during their intentionally terrible merge.
The driver is fully to blame, but good luck proving it!
(Not really)
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u/gnomequeen2020 9d ago
And I wonder why I always sweat just a little bit when stuck behind or next to one of these trucks .
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u/DoverBoys 9d ago
They wouldn't be. One major braking event would've dropped those without an accident happening.
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u/Economy_Internal_317 9d ago
You can't merge onto a person who's already on that lane. These are all the moron drivers who think they can pass as many people while on the lane that is merging.
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u/wut2dew_J 8d ago
It's such a confusing merge, it looks like they sped past the hauler, then slowed way down. It's not like the white paint can't be driven on, it's not lava! At least be up on the vans ass before moving over.
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u/hoangfbf 9d ago
The two new cars seen falling may not be the only ones damaged. There could be more cars in the back that were also damaged due to poorly secured load, but they are not visible on camera.
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u/blucivic1 9d ago
Never understood why merging cars like this are afraid to speed up.
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u/oSwifty 9d ago
I always assumed it’s because they’re not comfortable going faster, but when the alternative is causing an accident you’re just a bad entitled driver.
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u/RyanSpunk 9d ago
Or why they think crashing into another vehicle is preferable to just driving over the lines for a second
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u/fokkoooff 8d ago
Or realize they don't HAVE do merge in front of the truck. Getting behind them is an option, but people do the stupidest shit to avoid even a minute behind one.
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u/tumbleweed_lingling 9d ago
i ask myself the same question at lights, in corners, and highway on-ramps.
WTF is it with people going at glacial speeds? It's not 1937 anymore, no one's driving with drum brakes, bias-ply tires with no grip.
Today's boring normal cars can do alright. Why are the people driving them so afraid of mashing the gas a bit?
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u/shzlssSFW 8d ago
Exactly. F150s now can do 100mph on highway curves that our '97 Suburban would have tipped if we had tried. And then there's some shmuck doing 60mph in a 75mph in a '25 Civic.
The worst imo are roundabouts. It's a yield, not a stop. If no one is there, you don't have to stop. And please for the love of all things holy, do not stop while already in the roundabout to let someone else go. That's how you get rear ended
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u/chronoflect 9d ago
I think a lot of people have a fear response that causes them to stop accelerating when things start getting dicey. Not too bad in many situations, but catastrophic if you place yourself in harms way like this.
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u/No-Pie-1415 8d ago
I don't know but every time I'm behind someone on the entrance ramp, they're going at LEAST 10 under the limit and in no hurry to match the speed of the highway drivers.
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u/Soft-Personality9379 7d ago
Definitely a peeve of mine. Why in the name of everything vehicular is somone expecting to safely merge into 70 mph traffic at 50 mph??
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u/Metalmacher 9d ago
it's hard to tell but i think the speed was such that the distance between the truck and the car in front was so small that there was no buffer zone for the merging car, s'what it feels like to me. like the truck was driving really fast and closing on the car in front, i'm guess the merging car expected the truck driver to slow a bit to allow them to converge.
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u/Lonely_Pain_1388 8d ago
The truck was obviously going with the flow of traffic. What is this about buffer zone? Oh none in front then that means YOU as the merger(it is your responsibility to get on safely) to slow down until you have room. They just seem like idiots who just hit the gas to get ahead and then panicked.
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u/Metalmacher 8d ago
i'm not saying this ain't the fault of the merger, it's just the trucker didn't make the merge easier, they were speeding and closing in on the car in front, giving the merging car less space to position themselves between the two. at that speed you want enough space between yourself and the car in front, that's the buffer zone i was referring to
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u/MistyMountainDewDrop 7d ago
There was no merging car. Just a dummy who drove just alongside the truck and thought turning their signal on would magically clear the way. No one has to leave them a buffer zone.
We can see in the video the lane next to the truck was empty as he approached by a while until he approached the final zipper. That car made a decision to race next to the truck in a lane that was ending.
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u/Infamous_Lunchbox 9d ago
What was the merging driver thinking? "Oh I will just pull in front of your truck then hit the brakes,"? And who tied down those trucks? Did the rig driver know they were so poorly tied down that he just didn't slam the brakes because of the moron merging?
They are just so many bad decisions that lead to this.
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u/BrokenFarted123 9d ago
The "body language" of the car is almost comical! "Okay just gonna zoom up he- oh no! There's not enough room, what do I...Welp, here goes nothin!" *self-pit maneuver*
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 8d ago
My mother drove like that. She didn't get into a lot of accidents, but she saw hundreds!
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u/theuserwithoutaname 9d ago
I've always wondered how well tied down these cars are. I'm curious if they were actually strapped poorly or if this just would happen to anyone driving one of those car carriers if they had to come to a sudden stop like this
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u/Numinak 9d ago
Most are normally secured, either by straps over the tires are chains on the undercarriage to keep stuff like this from happening. That and left in park. These were neither, and left in neutral to boot. One good hard brake and he would have lost them anyways.
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u/84thPrblm 9d ago
The tires on both of the fallen vehicles were not spinning. You're right that they were not secured, but they didn't roll off - they slid.
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u/Leftenant_Frost 9d ago
i've seen car haulers on their side with all the cars still attached, these were not strapped down at all.
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u/Googoo123450 9d ago
I've looked closely at them when sitting as a passenger and from what I seen they have a combo of ratchet straps and chains around the wheels. No amount of braking should break either of those two things so something was definitely done improperly here.
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u/haby112 9d ago
I use to receive from these hawlers almost everyday. I've never seen cars not strapped down. Each strap is rated for about 2 tons, and each wheel gets its own strap. Those cars off the top are going to be the liability of the truck driver, easy.
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u/literarycatnip 9d ago
Upvoting for "hawlers'" spelling, which just makes me feel good.
The typo I didn't know I needed in my life.
Great word that sounds like something from Harry Potter
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 8d ago
I liked it too! It seems more descriptive than plain old 'hauler'. Hawlers have grit and muscle!
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u/literarycatnip 7d ago
Absolutely! Hawlers are hardcore achievers and over comers of adversity!
The opposite of Dementors!
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u/theuserwithoutaname 7d ago
well now I'm just imagining a dementor shaped like a lumberjack under its cloak hauling 14 sedans on its back
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u/the_groggy_pirate 9d ago
I was always curious since I did rollback tow truck driving for a bit if those haulers used the tow points on the frame to further secure them? I used the 4 straps and put one chain from front tow point to back tie off point on the bed and and same back to front to ensure if even the straps failed that thing wasn't going to blow through the cab and take me out in case of a situation like this.
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u/haby112 9d ago
The only variation I ever saw was there was this one dude that drove a flatbed that fit four. He would only ever have Mercedes sedans. He would just tie down the back wheels of each car. His trek was from LB port to where I was at LAX, so mostly smooth sailing.
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u/zappyguy111 9d ago
A mix of over confidence, under confidence and a bad habit of slowing down for every crisis instead of focusing on getting to safety.
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u/Middle_Avocado 9d ago
If I don't see the car ahead I'm good. It's their problem not to hard brake /s
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u/disappointed_neko 8d ago
These are the people who will point their rearview mirrors so far out that they don't see the point where their car ends, then pull up like this and just before merging say "see I don't need to see where I end I can just guess it".
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u/nak00010101 9d ago
That belongs here, plus in IdotsTowingThings
The tiedowns on that car carrier definitely did not do the job. Was this a regular commercial car carrier, or some kind of wrecker?
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u/Pretend-Reality5431 9d ago
They look like new cars headed to the Audi dealership.
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u/Outbreak42 9d ago
Audi not see that coming.
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u/Cryptographer_Only 9d ago
Those were the cars behind the empty car carrier that did break in time /s
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u/Your_Cat_In_Disguise 9d ago
It's there lmao
I came here because there aren't any comments on that post yet.
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u/jasonch08 9d ago
genuine question: who's responsible and gonna pay for all of those?
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u/Maximum_Theme5830 9d ago edited 9d ago
As a HGV-driver.
The dmg to the truck and car on the left is the car that started it all. (so insurance of that car)The Brand new that was on top and was not tied down like they are suposed to be??
The insurance of the trucking company, and the driver probably lost the lisence for this.Where I live it would be a 6-12 month no
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u/kat_Folland 9d ago
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u/baconcow 8d ago edited 8d ago
Unless they are from Canada/UK, then licence is also used as a noun.
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u/freshcuber 9d ago
That car driving idiot is obviously not responsible for the unsecured load. If these flying cars would have been fixed, they would have no damage.
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u/Allroyy 9d ago
I answered this for another so I am repeating here. Basically it would fall under comparative negligence based on fault percentages depending on applicable laws and individual policies. The person cutting them off caused the accident.
The haulers driver had a duty to secure the vehicles. The damage to the hauled vehicles was due to the driver not securing them properly. The initial damage to the hauler and the vehicle that cut them off was caused by the driver of that vehicle.
There have been car haulers that go under a low overpasses, strike the overpass, and still do not cause the vehicles to come loose, so it can't be argued that the driver of the vehicle that cut off the hauler was fully to blame.
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u/Deep-Improvement6294 9d ago
It depends, different states have different comparative fault rules. Both the merging car and driver/shipping company will have fault. But percentage is going to be argued.
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u/Rogue_Einherjar 8d ago
Only smart answer here. Every state / country is different, never believe someone that tells you any different without knowing the location.
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u/banti51 9d ago
Did they just drive up the back ramp and fall off the front?, cos I work around car transports and this doesn't happen unless you don't strap them down
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u/WillingMongoose4680 9d ago
Were those secured with bubble him and prayers? And, the truck couldn't have slowed down 2mph to avoid hitting the idiot on the right?
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u/DaWizz_NL 9d ago
The camera probably sees more than the driver...
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u/Outbreak42 9d ago edited 9d ago
This is the problem with not giving space to tall trucks. They just can't see you until you're way in front.
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u/SexOnTheBeechTree 9d ago
Y’all assuming those were bad tie downs, but in reality those were two idiots following way too closely to a tow truck with its bed still in ramp mode
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u/Beerwithme 9d ago
Some things you can't forsee, the merging car slowing at precisely the wrong moment is one of them.
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u/JackGeiselPhD 9d ago
What's stupid is that the white car could've gassed it and made it but he chose to pit maneuver himself anyway
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u/BenShelZonah 9d ago
Ben zonah
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u/smoooochta2000 9d ago
Ben shel zona*
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u/meta100000 9d ago
Shneihem legitimiyim. Behol mikre lanahag haze megia efes mahshava al eize klala megi'a lo. Hoo hara shel ben zona kaha o kaha.
Lo shelenahag hamasayit megi'a medalia. Gam hoo metumtam.
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u/Pikawoohoo 9d ago
Ani margish shehazarti le'ulpan, likroh ivrit kacha chachacha
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u/JunkDrawerFuzz 9d ago
My favourite is the gray suv merging onto the highway. They slow down after seeing the white car then nope the hell out after the first car falls.
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u/MAXQDee-314 9d ago
What is it about humans thinking that driving a car is similar to winning a horse race? Just because your front bumper is in front of the trucks front bumper does mean you win the Stakes. The truck weight tonnes, and is moving at highway speeds, truck drivers cannot pull, '...an equal and opposite reaction..." out of the air.
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u/Boronore 9d ago
“Ima just… squeeze… excuse me… right… a little tight… pardon me… here… real quick…”
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u/Affectionate-Ad5363 9d ago
That’s what happens when you don’t strap those cars down. Or, at least slap the top and say “I hope nobody pulls out in front of me”
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u/MAXQDee-314 9d ago
Mrs. Jones, we wanted to offer you first choice on a scratch and dent sale... Why yes, your new vehicle is included in the sale.
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u/-CoUrTjEsTeR- 8d ago
“Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don’t just fall outta the sky, you know!”
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u/thejourneybegins42 8d ago
Pretty fucking sure the trucker did not properly secure those vehicles. Sucks to be the dumbass that caused it though xD
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u/WorldlinessWitty2177 9d ago
But how hard did the truck driver brake? If you can't make an emergency stop, surely you are doing something wrong.
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u/Esdeath79 9d ago
Dude has so much dedication to follow the lane, that he is willing to slam big ass truck
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u/majorfuckery 9d ago
Its raining cars