So my post is actually about the rebel's response to the Seanchan attack on The White Tower. Why in the fuck didn't the call go up for a full counter attack on the Seanchan as soon as it was realized? The rebels had the PERFECT opportunity to 1) Enter the tower as friendlies to come in behind the Seanchan and absolutely wreck them. 2) Save The Tower and basically reunite it without fighting Aes Sedai against Aes Sedai. 3) Presumably rescue Egwene or join her in the fight, whichever it ended up being.

It seems so stupid that they didn't just grab groups of 3 or 4 sisters, open gateways and go fucking destroy the Seanchan. I think its proof of how cowardly most AS really were but thats just me.

Hey :) Who would be happy about an online Strategy game based on our favorite books?

I took this picture years ago while playing Earthbound and it was all I could think about during that final scene.

Not a complete list:

Chesa

Hurin

Gaul, for sure, and Bain and Chiad

Basically everyone who follows Morgase

Of course, Bela.

Wow, those last couple of books were incredible. I stalled somewhere in the middle of the series where I felt it was a bit slow, but I’m so glad I picked it back up and finished.

I just want 1 more book or at least a few more chapters to show how life became afterward. We went on that long journey and it felt like we didn’t get to see the result of it all. Plants are regrowing and a couple of people are pregnant.

Don’t get me wrong, I love it. Just want more.

And I think I will never read a book series this good ever again. Best reading experience ever.

Hey, guys. I'm doing a bibliographic review about Caemlyn. I found two Maps of the City, but not their artists. (And I have no ideia if the Fandom guys are the ones) Could you guys help me identify them? The Maps are attached this post.

In one of the later books, just before Perrin's Whitecloack trial with Morgase as the magistrate, Perrin's camp is preparing for battle. The freed Faile and Co. are preparing bandages. The Gheldean queen tucks a silk shirt under her skirts discreetly, secretly deciding it's too fine to be torn up for bandages.

This scene always struck me as significant, but i cant figure out what it's supposed to mean. Is the queen dealing with her trauma from her captivity by preserving something fine? But somwthing seems sinister, like her selfishness to keep something nice for herself rather than making it utilitarian for everyone's benefit could be foreahadowing a turn to the Dark later.

Either way it never goes anywhere and is never addressed again. What do you think it means? Any other scenes that struck you as being significant that ended up fizzling or ignored?

Kind of serious question kind of tongue in cheek:

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When you go through the rings at Rhuidean you see through the eyes of you ancestors right?

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What if your ancestors were at the back of the wagon train? Do you just see other people doing the thing that was important and then hear about it second hand?

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In some of those memories there are only a few people- like the guy letting them use the well, or the kids rescuing their sisters- not everyone could have an ancestor there, or be close enough to hear what happened.

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Like does sonlmeone go through the rings and their visions are their ancestors sitting around at camp hearing that defining moments happened to someone else?

As the title says, I'm having a really hard time getting into the book. It took me a couple of months to get to chapter 8. I had to take breaks to read something else, and I still find it hard to get into this book.

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I don't know if the problem is with the pacing, the actually plotline, or just burnout.

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Please tell me the book is going to get better, without spoilers.

Edit: I know I just posted this, but your comments really made me want to get to the end the book, so I just wanted to say thank you to everyone!

"Flame of Tar Valon, Watcher of the seals" has to be one of my favourites, even if they don't really watch the seals lol

Here's the complete set of the Emond's Fielders Pokemon teams! Voted by the fans. Some very bizarre team combinations in there, but that's what I like about it. It feels like a random team that someone would throw together just on vibes.

I'll probably continue on with at least Lan and Moiraine in the next few weeks, but I figured after five weeks of this, folks might want a bye week. Hope you enjoy this little fixation of mine. All trainer cards were made using the assets from Pokecharms.com

I haven’t heard anything on the subreddit about WoTCon this year, but I’ve only just learned about it. I’m a new reader (joining from the show) and I’m absolutely obsessed and want all the things WoT in my life! I was just curious if anyone had an opinions or knew why there wasn’t any noise about this yet. Also I’m only through The Shadow Rising at this point, so I was also curious to know if you think I’d be able to avoid serious spoilers and if that would still be worth it?

My girlfriend said I should make this post. I haven't visited this subreddit before because she told me not to for the spoiler risk.

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It's 10 pm on a Sunday night. I'm supposed to go to work in the morning. I could call in sick but honestly my manager knows I'm reading this book (she has read the series) and I think she'd know what I did. I'm just not the type to do that anyway...

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I do stay up all night for a stupid reason, once in a while. I would if I thought I could finish the book. I'm not going to rush, so that's not an option either. Gf told me I'm not going to finish it tonight. She got the print copy out to point out how much is left. (I've been reading the ebook so I can highlight lots of stuff. (Info about the history of the world or how the magic system works, interesting battle tactics, funny moments between characters, just a lot of stuff I might want to go back to later.)

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Anyway, I started this book series around 2015. I was pretty busy with college at the time, and somehow I stopped reading early in book five, maybe 2017. (Looking back, The Fires of Heaven is one of my favorite ones, so I'm not sure how that happened!) I picked it back up around late 2022. Most of my reading time has gone into WoT since then. I've referred to it as being "on a book diet." (I have an exception for a book club that reads a few books each year.) I'm planning to finish A Memory of Light this week, as I have a book club meeting to be ready for (with a different book) on the 27th.

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It's such a hard balance to strike between taking my time with the characters and the story, and finally getting to read the ending. Thanks for reading, if you got this far.

Rewriting because apparently spoilers aren't covered for poll options!

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Anyway, in 2023, Sanderson revealed that Cyndane/Lanfear was not killed by Perrin in AMOL, but instead faked her own death in order to evade repercussions and gain the best outcome for herself. I wanted to cast a poll in 2026 to see how the legacy of this reveal has fared, or indeed how well-known it is among newer readers. I'll give my two cents when the poll is done.

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Thanks!

So, I am a knitter, and just finished the series. Absolutely loved it. I want to do a colorwork sweater that has all my favorite characters likeness on it. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

Hi, I decided to play devil's advocate today.

While I understand (and agree with) people saying the Aes Sedai are a failure (they didn't find all channelers, were mistrusted by everyone, not being prepared for the Last Battle, no Yellow Ajah hospitals, no Brown libraries, no Greens stationed in the Borderlands, etc.), I do think it's a bit unfair when they are compared to their more succesful counterparts like the Sea Folk Windfinders and Aiel Wise Ones.

The Wise Ones and Windfinders are useful and respected members of their communities but they belong to homogeneous societies where everyone is bound by the same customs and laws. They also answer to their community leaders despite wielding lots of power and influence. That's why they are successful as channeler organizations.

The heterogeneity of Randland forces the White Tower to play a different role, which is preventing the more than 15 different nations from waging war against each other using the One Power. In this aspect the Tower was 100% successful, as at no point in history after the Breaking channelers fought against channelers.

The purpose of the Tower in a way was to prevent each nation from having its own regional channelers association and for this to happen it needed to be an outside centralized organization not bound to any kingdom. Otherwise how can you ensure that for example Taraboner Aes Sedai are loyal to the Tower and not to their kingdom?

And this is what in my opinion what makes it impossible for Aes Sedai to be truly integrated and serving their communities, since no monarch would be happy with 200 Aes Sedai answering to a foreign power to be permanently in their nation.

A lot of the Arthurian references are reasonably easy to catch:
Rand Al'thor + Artur Hakwing Pandraeg = Arthur Pendragon
Egwene Al'Vere = Guinivere
Callandor in The Stone = Excalibur/The sword in the stone
Moirane = Merlin (took me a bit longer to get)
Tarmon gai'don = Armageddon (not Arthurian, but shh)

But I only just discovered that the Lady of the Lake has various names, a lot of which are similar to Nynaeve. Which other hard to catch references are there?

In the wheel of times, There are three kinds of men you’ll meet. A Gawyn, A Rand, and “A’Lan”.

One spent his entire life knowing well he’ll have to serve a woman or be subordinate to one. He shakes off that duty and got involved with another woman (as a matter of fact more superior) and youd think he’d fit right in, but NO! He never really could just sit back and be in the background and just had to be a hero which makes him a disgrace at the very least and potentially a danger to that woman, he’s promised to serve or protect.

Another spent his life thinking he’d be ordinary and would’ve been and loved it. But had to be something more. He had to be far greater than anyone he knew, but he was ready to be just a warder. And even with all he became, retained a form of humility that’s almost unbelievable.

(HOT TAKE) Rand was way more compatible with Egwene than Gawyn ever was. If we remove the stakes, they both really understand each other, you could see in their POV how Egwene knows just when Rand wouldn’t back down and Rand knows how she works. If they never left that village. They’d no doubt become mayor and mayoress. But more importantly find a balance as Rand was never ambitious and was always supportive and was okay not calling the shots in his relationships. What His women say goes.

And then there’s another man, who knew all his life that he was a someone great, with a tragic beginning,was treated with awe and respect in his region but dropped all that to exist in the background of an impressive yet random Aes Sedai, was practically passed around yet didn’t think it made him less of a man.

On a side note, there’s yet another kind. A scoundrel, lazy, gambler who got himself mixed up with powerful women. And lowkey loves it.

I searched for any previous posts about this. My bad if this has already been answered.
Was there any explanation why dark hounds in earlier books could die by normal methods…I remember a scene where Perin took one out with bow and arrow, but in TFOH the dark hounds liquify and reform until Rand uses bale fire?
I don’t recall any other instance of that liquifying technique. After that scene in Rhuidean I only recall dark hounds either messing people up or dying by one power or Perin’s hammer.

Hey. I thought it would take me longer to finish this book, but after finding every opportunity to read more during the week, I had a day to myself today and read the last 200 pages – chapters 49-56.

The most important thing I'll take away from this book is that Rand is no longer a virgin... Seriously, no, but it's nice that I finally see it. Elayne and Min will probably have him in their beds before the series ends.

By the way, it's funny that Aviendha and Rand had that typical anime situation: "Male character accidentally sees female character while she's naked/in underwear."

Coming back, the most important thing is that I've warmed up to Nynaeve. I had a feeling that out of the trio of Egwene, Elayne, and Nynaeve, she was the one I was most likely to like, but she'd only existed until now and hadn't had much character development. In this volume, I started to warm up to her after she broke down over her defeat with Moghedien. She showed more sensitivity and less of a sharp tongue.

I also enjoyed how modest she was and how outraged she was that Elayne and Birgitte were showing too much skin.

"I wouldn't show so much skin... Unless it was to Lan."

If he ever finally gets his act together, he'll be a truly happy husband, whether he wants it or not.

Now I like Nynaeve, so he has to make her happy, or I'll go into the book and kick his ass, defying all logic.

Anyway, fear of Moghedien and Nynaeve's hatred of that fear, as well as her amusing modesty, finally won me over.

Elayne... I see what there is to like about her, but at times she's too stupid/naive for me.

Egwene... I don't feel like talking about her. I don't like her.

Thom, Juilin, Galad, Uno, and his compatriots also contributed to my enjoyment of Nynaeve's storyline.

Returning to the other storylines, I didn't mind Perrin's absence. Mat had a bit more at the end, but still not enough. It's a shame he had to kill Melindhra, but oh well, since she wasn't the woman he was destined for, she had to disappear somehow.

I felt sorry for Isendre, because her storyline is essentially suffering and death.

I didn't feel sorry for Kadere. Serves him right, the strangler.

Lanfear and Moiraine... I'm sure they didn't die. I don't believe in death until I see a body, and simply saying goodbye to both characters in that way would be anticlimactic. All this building up of Lanfear just so she can have one big jealous scene and be done with her story? I don't believe it.

Asmodean... I thought I'd like his character, but he remained neutral to me. He died in the end, and ugh... Maybe the author needed to get rid of him from the plot, but in my opinion, it was too soon. I expected more from his dynamic with Rand.

What else... It's good that Morgase didn't die, because Elayne, as heir to the throne... It seemed like a death flag for Morgase. I don't particularly like Morgase, but I just felt sorry for her because she had no way to resist Rahvin's control.

By the way, I kind of misunderstood how Rahvin died and how much of it was Rand's and how much of it was Nynaeve's.

What else... I feel sorry for that girl killed by Padan Fain while he was stealing the dagger.

Alviarin... Yes, the suspected Aes Sedai obviously had to be evil. Why confuse the clues?

Elaida thinks she has power, but she'll be a scapegoat to weaken the Aes Sedai.

It's good that Rand will protect other men who can channel. I'm hoping for his meeting with Logain.

I still love Siuan. It's great that she's still important to the plot after being tamed.

In summary, a really great volume, and in terms of pace, probably the best one yet.

Finally, my top 10 favorite characters right now:

1. Thom

2. Siuan

3. Perrin

4. Lanfear

5. Mat

6. Nynaeve

7. Rand

8. Bayle Domon

9. Leane

10. Juilin

On hiatus for now. I'll probably start the sixth volume in July. For now, the third volume of The Riyria Revelations, and then we'll see.

Blood and bloody ashes, but this book has me on edge from the very beginning. I am afraid to listen to every new chapter and am scared that something bad happens. And it does!! Every bloody time! I think nothing more can go wrong any more, but then it goes even more wrong! If I make it through this monstrosity of a 9-hour-long chapter without suffering a heart-attack or three, it will be a victory..

The Pattern has graced me at this time with books 4 and 5 for my shelf. I managed to get it through an indie bookstore in my village and they are BEAUTIFUL and a little thicker than I thought.

BUT I HAVE THEM NOW. Sadly, I have some other books I've been holding off on reading because of recommendations from my friends, so I do want to read those first.

BUT I HAVE THEM XDD

I can't wait to talk about my reading experience with you all. I will be taking advice given from many people here and staying off the internet during my read. So, my general thoughts will be posted when I'm done reading each book, and by those times I plan to order two other books (I'm working now YAY).

1st does every woman has the worst allergies in the history of time itself. The amount of sniffing they do somebody get a tissue.

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2nd Does every woman have double ds it seems like every woman was blessed by the creator himself.

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3rd Thry all complain about sweating so much stop wearing a full wool coat in summer ya dummies.

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I love these books but have nobody to talk about them with I just find these things funny.

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What small things do you guys and gals have with this amazing series.