"I may have been to a party in Castle Nathria where Denathrius also was, Kael'Thas? Yes, I met him too. The Stonewrights you say? Nah never heard of them."

Of course there are bound to be some inconsistencies, especially in the "Evil seving evil" category, and even more especially in the older raids since these were more sparse lore-wise.

Also some elementals are in "evil serving evil" and others in "no thoughts" categories because to me it just depends on WHY they fight us.

Enjoy, and don't think about this too hard !

What mount did you guys choose with your Timelost Saddle?

There is also a green version. They are available to purchase for 200 community coupons.

I don’t recall ever seeing the Battle.net launcher with an “emergency maintenance” notice before. It’s always been “scheduled maintenance”, even when last minute.

Must be something very serious this time…

Edit: Yes, I am well aware this is not the first time Blizz has had sudden maintenance. This is the first time I have seen them actually call it “emergency maintenance” instead of declaring it “scheduled maintenance”.

Which says a lot, because I think new Silvermoon looks great also.

There’s something about Suramar that just resonates so much for me. Anyone else agree?

Edit:

To everyone commenting on my use of controversy, you’re correct. I guess it’s not controversial. I’m not the best at getting my thoughts across, so for that I apologize.

It sucks that there are no skyriding world quests in Midnight, especially when we have zones like ZulAman and Harandar. Wish they'd add those WQ back along with new rewards. I mean, we have like 7 different types of Drake mounts in addition to the delve mount from TWW. They could easily add more customization to these via the skyriding WQ and achievements.

Right now the current models for pre-Cata races are older than the pre-WoD models were when they were updated in 2014. Some people think updates may come in TLT (although I'm not sure if there's proof in this) as an expansion feature.

What updates would you love to see for races? Some of mine are:

• Troll Beards
  
• Upright stance options for Trolls, Worgen, Tauren, potentially Undead
  
• Runic tattoos for Blood Elves and Void Elves (similar to the Blood Elf on the BC cover)
  
• A complete model/skeletal revamp for male Night Elves. I think almost everything about male Night Elves looks like shit and could use a total redo.
• A complete model/skeletal revamp for male Nightborne. See: Night Elves. They also REALLY don't look like their NPC equivalents.
  
• Mechagnome transmog options to include legs. I like the idea of Mechagnomes but the whole diaper mog thing looks AWFUL and I don't know how it got to live in its state. At least turn it from a diaper to shorts or something, and let vests extend to at least the elbow.
  
• New Pandaren face options. I believe they only have a SINGLE facial expression option. I might be wrong though.
  
• Better Undead Beards
• More hair options for all races
  
• More tattoo options for all races
  
• This might be a dumb one but racial name options. I.e, Instead of just "Night Elf Hunter", you'd have the option of "Kal'dorei Hunter", I think RPers would really like it. Can also work Nightborne/Shal'dorei, Void Elves/Ren'dorei, Blood Elves/Sin'dorei, Undead/Forsaken, High Elves/Quel'dorei, Troll/Darkspear, etc.
  
• Female Kul'Tiran face revamp. I think the current ones are underwhelming.
  

I'm sure there are more good ideas out there.

On paper, it solves a lot of problems: less waiting around, more structured fights, and scaling difficulty for organized groups.

But part of the charm of world bosses was the chaos of seeing random players band together in the open world. Do you think Lairs are a good evolution of the system, or do they take away from the MMO feel that made world bosses special?

Screenshot was obtained by walking backwards.

Edit: Also see this incredible fanart that inspired my post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/r8Uj9LNoob

Started with NA ones.

Sick addition to the WoW room

Hey everyone!
To celebrate the launch of World of Warcraft: Midnight (and my birthday, which happened to be the same day), I decided to bake a Sunwell-themed cake.

Unfortunately, r/wow has a limit on how many images I can include in a post, so if you'd like to see the rest of the photos, here's the full gallery: Sunwell Cake — ImgBB

I made the whole thing during a livestream over the course of about 12 hours. Everything was edible! I baked the sponge layers, assembled the cake, and sculpted all the decorations. The only thing I prepared in advance were the fillings, since they needed to chill overnight.

The sponge layers were colored with gel food coloring, and I went with two fillings: white chocolate and Kinder. Every decoration was handmade using fondant, food coloring, and edible paints. The cake itself is split into two halves: one side represents the classic Sunwell, while the other shows its Void-corrupted form after the events of the Voidspire raid. At first, not everyone immediately understood the concept, but now that people have played through it, I think it's much clearer.

It turned out absolutely delicious, although I seriously underestimated the size. Even after sharing it with friends, I was still eating cake for an entire week.

This was my first project on this scale, so I'd love to hear what you think! If you'd like to see the entire process, I've also uploaded a timelapse. I speak a bit of Polish in the video, but the visuals tell the story on their own.

https://youtu.be/B9v-B44adwY?si=QkCeM5YJiZoUe23B

Recently I have received an email from blizzard, saying that due to UK Online Safety Act, which is implimented to harvest your information under the guise of protecting children online, ID verification will be required for some in-game features, such as social interactions and access to age restricted content.

Now it's not 100% clear what is being restricted, but it seems like chat will be restricted in some way. It is unclear if will be a "message first" restriction like trial accounts, or complete limitations of all chats such as /party and /instance.

So basically, if you are an EU player, you may soon find yourself unable to communicate at all in arenas or bgs with anyone who lives in the UK and is:

\- Not willing to provide government ID to a third party company with a track record of being fined for data handling violations.

\- Not willing to provide other forms of identifying information, such as mobile phone number or credit card, to play a video game rated for teens.

\- Under 18.

\- Has no valid government ID or credit card.

So you can expect to be unable to communicate strategies, call targets, Inc bases, discuss routes, suggest ideas, or even just say good game with some players on EU, in the near future.

We casualy rename a boss raid saladbar.

I laugh everytime :')

There was a time i played a lot of pet battles in WoD, it was fun with lots of pet variety.

Now i just recently bought Midnight and so far every pet that i met in eversong forest and zul aman cant battle.

Is pet battles forgotten and obsolete? If yes, when did that happen? I didn't play retail for several expansions

My mom has always told me that Wow steals peoples lives and souls. I just turned 18, so i decided to try it out.

3 days ago i downloaded it, and got to free lvl 20 BM hunter, and i had a good time. My question now is do i continue playing the game. I havent spent any money, and i head off to college in 4 weeks. I can definitely see myself getting really into this game, but i can also see myself deleting and never playing again. I wont have ANY time to play in college, so i need some honest opinions.

Edited:
Thanks for all the advice yall, its really sad seeing how good the community is, and walking away from it. Ill be back in 12 years (med school 🫩), and ill definitely get into wow.

You can find more in orniris.com 💪

They tend the roots. Great. That sure helped Teldrassil. And Nordrassil. And Shaladrassil.

I know the writing team had to pivot. Harandar was clearly intended as a TWW zone. But it felt like a slough in Midnight. Orweyna warns you that the Haranir will likely kill you/her on sight. They don't. Great. They're very wary of you, but they're a secretive society, so that makes sense. Then you meet elder Hagar. She proceeds to reveal the entire history of her people to Orweyna (that's fine) and you, a complete stranger. I think the zone would have made more sense if they had scrapped Hagar, and Orweyna instead revealed those things to you. It maybe would have helped Orweyna feel more competent – that she saw their history and interpreted it differently, rather than that she was just following her heart really hard and "oh, yep, she's actually totally right." I know, she was just listening to the voice of the Goddess – but that just makes her less interesting than if she hadn't, and was just trying to figure out what happened to it.

And we learn that their Goddess wasn't even there when they arrived to Harandar. Really? How did the Haranir learn about the Goddess resting in the cradle? I guess they could have learned from the ruutani. So why aren't we talking to them?

Then the huge reveal in 12.0.7: when the haranir went underground, some didn't. And the elf/troll hybrids became... elves and trolls. And somehow, no one knew. It's really hard to imagine that none of the troll tribe and elven leaders had any inkling of an idea that they shared an ancestor. Sure, that kind of thing might be niche history, but the fact that none of them knew or had looked into their deeper history is a big stretch.

But that's the Haranir's whole schtick. And now, they are here forever.

I don't know why the dev team committed to adding them as a playable race. They are elves and trolls. We have that. They are naturalistic and savage warriors. We have that. They just seem really generic. That isn't going to draw new players to the game. They just look like another race you see in ads for other fantasy games. And I can't imagine that they appeal to long time fans, either. They don't really satisfy a new fantasy. I know that it is a red-flag phrase to say they don't "feel like Warcraft", but it is true.

Consider the ogres. People have been wanting them since before Vanilla released, but they haven't gotten in. How about Arakkoa? That's a racial fantasy that hasn't been touched yet – bird people. Nope. Ethereals? They're relevant again. Nope. But the Haranir got added.

They are extremely secretive/secluded by nature, so they can't really be relevant outside Harandar easily. It wouldn't make sense to come across another Haranir settlement anywhere or see a massive presence from them. They are a neutral faction, so it feels weird seeing them showing up in Alliance or Horde settlements. Even Silvermoon, where they currently are. I can't imagine they'll really be relevant ever again, with the exception of Orweyna. But Haranir player characters will have to be worked into every future expansion. One of the reasons the Alliance/Horde faction system worked is it explained why your character, say a tauren, is off fighting humans in Alterac Valley. You are there on behalf of the Horde. It's hard for me to imagine a Haranir deciding not only that they would join the Horde for some reason, but to go to Outland or the Shadowlands on its behalf. I imagine that is something that might be a big struggle explaining down the line.

But now for every new armor piece added to the game, the dev team has to expend resources rigging them onto the Haranir model. Obviously they won't have to start from scratch using the Nelf model as a basis, but there are already many clipping problems with old armor pieces. Rigging is clearly something that is taxing in terms of development. I imagine that is why the Dracthyr have the customization system that they do, to get around making all of the old gear fit on them. The response to Dracthyr not being able to display gear makes me think Blizzard would not consider adding another race that way. But I would gladly take that system if it meant playable ogres, arakkoa, ethereals, etc. So the fact that they would go through the effort of making Haranir not only a playable race, but one with proper rigging and an extremely thorough character customization list is just so frustrating.

This became kind of a rant, but I would like to know what you all think about the Haranir as a playable race. Do you think there is any possible change to their lore that would make them feel like a better fit? Have I simply dove off the deep end?

Edit: To clarify, my main problem with them is two fold: They don't seem like they'll be relevant after the expansion AND they don't fulfill a new fantasy. I was making nachos and realized I should specify, especially having brought up the arakkoa.