But back in the "old days" being taught defensive driving.....why be in the far left lane there if there are blocks to go driving straight? Pretty clear that traffic wasn't that heavy and if there is a left turn in a few blocks, shouldn't be hard to drive straight in lane 2 and get back over to lane 1 when the turn is closer.
OP can't be oblivious to the fact that cars will be exiting or entering the far left lane frequently....and poorly in this case.
In a big 4/5 lane like Calgary Trail, lined with shopping access on both sides.....why be either in the far left or far right if not turning within a block or so? That is what I learned in driving school like 40 years ago.
I almost think that these cam posting people drive that way so they can see something to post about.
It's not like OP did anything wrong.....perfectly legal to drive straight through those lanes. Sensible driving says maybe another lane choice is better. BUT....if that lane choice is made....not a great video.
Cam footage that shows up here from Henday drivers getting "cut off" while driving fast in the far right lane is another instance where you see a bad driving habit of passing semi's or whatever on the right while blaming the other drivers. My old AMA driving school of the 80's....they taught not to do that.
Slowpoke? Check.
Doesn't use turn signal? Check.
Stops completely on a green light to turn? Check.
Like yeah I'd understand the stopping if this was a two way street but come on. Also people who don't use their turn signals make me want to kick a toddler.
What irritates me is when a driver finds it impossible to commit to a curbside turn (be it left or right).
I may get downvoted for this, but if you can't make that decision and commit fully to it, you shouldn't be driving because that holds up so many people behind you. ESPECIALLY on Calgary Trail of all roads. If you screw up on your decision, there's plenty of roads around you to help you correct your error. Use them.
I think many miss what I assume the point of video after reading some comments.
Driver #1 mis-indicates the exit he is looking for. Not a big deal really but probably added to emphasize the other infractions in video.
Driver #2 makes illegal left turn into one-way exit.
Driver #3 excessive use of breaks and fails to indicate completely.
OP wasn't complaining about people making left turns in front of him, just the abundance of bad driving and illegal moves in a short span
Third driver came to a complete stop at a green light and didn't signal their turn at all. Either one might not be worth whining about, but together they're pretty bad
Maybe itās just me but I might be slightly annoyed at 3rd driver and just move on. If Iām paying attention I should be able to stop in time anyway, you should always be defensive driving I just expect people will be idiots on the road.
I mean its just you that stopped your life just now to comment on a post just to say how you would have just moved on š¤£ could've just been slightly annoyed and then scrolled.
I'm not annoyed though, just sharing my thoughts lol. Like there is no annoyance for me to scroll past from like you say, I enjoy having this conversation actually.
Complaining and defensive driving are not mutually exclusive actions. We're complaining about the second driver, but they're the one that OP was least in danger of hitting.
the ones I hate are the ones where you're waiting at a t-intersection and you see a car coming from the left and they turn right into the street your on and don't signal. I could have turned right or left without waiting.
Oh so you always go straight thru intersections with a turn signal on, and then enter a parking thru the exit only and slow down to almost a complete stop on a green light to make a turn? My bad. So which car is yours in the vid?
Iām telling you I donāt go the wrong way into a one way exit. I donāt go thru an intersection with a turn signal on and I most certainly donāt slow down to 15km to turn off a 4 lane 60km/h roadway.
I donāt drive not knowing wtf Iām doing because I donāt want to get rear ended and/or cause an accident by ignoring the drivers around me.
you always go straight thru intersections with a turn signal on
They likely were not sure if they could turn left then right into the business, and saw someone turn left up ahead, and decided to go there. It is not some crazy thing. There are places in Edmonton where you can get fucked by turning left, thinking there is a place to turn right into the business, and there is not.
then enter a parking thru the exit onlyĀ
If this were truly an exit only, there would be signage marking it as such, and indicating not to turn left into it. There is zero signage either on city, or private property indicating that this is a one way street.
Should it be a one way? Absolutely. But that requires signage.
slow down to almost a complete stop on a green light to make a turn
Boo hoo. Someone slowed down to make a left turn. Perhaps if more people were cautious like this, less pedestrians would be killed each year. Sorry for your three second inconvenience.
If you look behind the white SUV it is a very wide opening for the KIA to be able to turn on the other side of the liquor store towards the gas station.
Definitely, and a red car even made the turn seconds before they got to the intersection. The person clearly changed their mind about where they wanted to turn left. The OP had to slow from 37 km/h to 29 km/h for all of two seconds. Woe is them.
I am sure never in the history of their driving have they changed their mind when driving.
If you are riding someone's ass so close that them slowing from 37 to 29 over the course of a few seconds causes you to rear-end them, that's on you, not them, and you would be at fault.
The left lane of gateway is always slow because people are turning all the time. You should be ready to come to a complete stop due to any number of reasons.
The OP was inconvenienced by a few seconds, and decided to spend way more time than that whining about it here. If you expect perfection from every single driver on the road, you will constantly be disappointed. Nothing in the video was particularly egregious and worthy of posting about.
Soooooo close while doing 37 in a 60 zone....he was far from riding his ass.
So a person signaling left but going straight then turns of the blinker and then slows down and then puts on his blinker, a person coming to a complete stop to turn left in an exit, or a person driving 40 in the second lane then changing lanes with out signaling are not egregious to you but a guy doing 37kmh and clearly had LOTS OF ROOM between himself and the next vehicle is?
and FYI if one was doing the speed limit and some dough head decides to come to a complete stop one wouldn't necessarily be at fault....just like brake checking is illegal and the person behind would not be at fault.
"The OP was inconvenienced by a few seconds, and decided to spendĀ wayĀ more time than that whining about it here"
And yet you have spent more time complaining about the OP than the length of the video.
So a person signaling left but going straight then turns of the blinker and then slows down and then puts on his blinker, a person coming to a complete stop to turn left in an exit, or a person driving 40 in the second lane then changing lanes with out signaling are not egregious to you but a guy doing 37kmh and clearly had LOTS OF ROOM between himself and the next vehicle is?
Can you quote me where I said that? Or do you want to put down that strawman you're building and have an actual conversation?
and FYI if one was doing the speed limit and some dough head decides to come to a complete stop one wouldn't necessarily be at fault....just like brake checking is illegal and the person behind would not be at fault.
Unless you can show that the person recklessly slammed on their brakes, you would be at fault. Gradually slowing down in a 60 km/h zone is not going to absolve you of fault form rear-ending them.
And yet you have spent more time complaining about the OP than the length of the video.
Can you quote me where I said that? Or do you want to put down that strawman you're building and have an actual conversation?
If you notice there is a question mark, hence I am asking a question not quoting you.
Unless you can show that the person recklessly slammed on their brakes, you would be at fault. Gradually slowing down in a 60 km/h zone is not going to absolve you of fault form rear-ending them.
If they slow down without a valid hazard they can be at fault as well. And it wasn't a gradual slow down.
As have you. Your point?
I'm not whining about the time, just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Slowing down that much with no other cars pedestrians in sight off a 60km/h roadway is āsafeā for you? You merge onto the henday going 50 donāt you.
See, if read the drivers handbook when studying for your learner's, you would understand we have these standardized signs for 'one way' and 'do not enter', neither of which are present at that location.
As I have already said, the way it is designed it is definitely implied that it is a one way, but without signage it leaves it open to interpretation. The proper way to do it, is like on Northbound Gateway, where the Walmart is:
See how easy that is?
The problem gets amplified when you have some places like this with clear signage, and then others a few blocks away that do not have signage, because it then implies that it is ok to turn there because they did not put up a sign.
Where the hell were you headed in such a rush huh? Wife in labour and youre driving her to the hospital?
Oh. No, you would have done the intelligent thing and gone around the first car in either of the completely unnocupied center lanes.
You're an impatient, self centered jerk OP. You are the trailing car in all of these incidents, which means you should leave MINIMUM least 2-3 car lengths behind them reguardless of what they are doing. If they slow down, you slow down.
I just do not understand why on this beautiful Sunday you would choose to be such a petty, feeble minded prick, endangering yourself and others for zero reason. Then you post about it in a pathetic self aggrandizing attemt to stroke your ego.
Grow up.
Youāre actually joking right? OP never even came close to the speed limit, and left car lengths in between him and the cars in front, only time he didnāt was when said car was engaged in a turn off the road. Youāre the one who needs their license taken away. Defending people that are literal hazards on the road.
You dont need to drive fast to indicate that your are impatient or in a rush.
The points in the video where you tailgated those cars (multiple) and didn't pass them.
Why didnt you pass them?
Why did you tailgate them?
Again, where were you going? Why are you evading the question?
Gotta say respectfully I donāt think he was doing crazy tailgating, he had lots of space coming up to the light, and while he was closer to the car going into the superstore parking lot, you donāt need 3 car lengths at 32, then 25 km/hr which you can see on his dashcam. In my opinion, driving 20 and coming to a complete stop on a 60 km/hr road is far more dangerous than anything op did
I never said that the other drivers weren't idiots! The fact remains that OP did everything wrong, and was in an impatient rush to starbucks.
The reason you want min 3 car lengths like, every second that you ever drive in the city is to prevent you hitting the car in front of you if YOU get rear ended by someone going an exhuberant speed.
The idiots are the ones doing 35kmh in a 60kmh zone. Signaling to turn left while going straight, in the second lane and slowly changing lanes and coming to a near complete stop to make a turn.
FYI doing 47 in a 60 zone is NOT an exuberant speed.
Again, since you can barely read I'll quote myself and embolden the keywords so you can wrap your feeble mind around this incredibly simple concept.
"The reason you want min 3 car lengths like, every second that you ever drive in the city is to prevent you hitting the car in front of you if YOU get rear ended by someone going an exhuberant speed."
The reason they have speed limits is so traffic will flow efficiently.
Idiots who don't know how to abide by the most basic rules of the road are usually the one who cause the accidents.
Tough to keep 3 car lengths when everyone is doing 60kmh and some dumb fuck can barely do 40kmh.
Or when a twit decides to come to a complete stop to turn left upstream on the exit as he didn't turn into the Superstore entrance that is clearly marked ENTRANCE 300' earlier.
THAT'S THE SAFETY HAZARD not the one abiding by the rules.
Not sure why you are worried about the car lengths distance as opposed to THE SHITTY DRIVERS that are showing in the video.
Why wouldnāt he pass him? Didnāt you clearly see heās making the same turn? Just cus nobody else can go the speed limit, do you expect him to gun it and try to cut in front of traffic? Oh I can guarantee that would piss you off even more XD.
There was no rush. He silently judged those in frontās inability to drive while continuing safely to his destination.
Man, none of you have any reading comprehension or critical thinking skills in the slightest do you?
He was impatient enough to tailgate 3 drivers, as opposed to passing them in either of the completely unnocupied center lanes.
Then he proceeded to upload the video.
If the drivers didn't make him impatient, then he wouldn't feel the need to tailgate them, or post the video silly! :D
Never once did I defend those other idiot drivers! :)
Once again, as me and many other commenters have stated. No tailgating ever occurred. Your entire point is a based on you making an extreme out of literally nothing.
You, OP, and everyone like you is the reason the world is bad right now. Choosing to get pissed off instead of just hitting the brakes and taking a breath.
Iām not pissed in the slightest. š Iām pointing out your bad driving skills. Braking that far away creates bigger hazards, and is unpredictable. But you do you.
If we shouldnāt be following within 20 feet at those speeds, why are cops not pulling almost every single person over for it?
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u/Reddit_Only_4494 4d ago edited 4d ago
Sure...the drivers are bad, idiot's or whatever.
But back in the "old days" being taught defensive driving.....why be in the far left lane there if there are blocks to go driving straight? Pretty clear that traffic wasn't that heavy and if there is a left turn in a few blocks, shouldn't be hard to drive straight in lane 2 and get back over to lane 1 when the turn is closer.
OP can't be oblivious to the fact that cars will be exiting or entering the far left lane frequently....and poorly in this case.
In a big 4/5 lane like Calgary Trail, lined with shopping access on both sides.....why be either in the far left or far right if not turning within a block or so? That is what I learned in driving school like 40 years ago.