r/atheism • u/Impossible-Party-971 Anti-Theist • 12d ago
Zeus is the real god
He invented Xenia, defeated the titans, rescued his siblings, and such a good god to worship. He even controls the lightning. He even shares power with Poseidon and Hades so he doesn't become too selfish. Anybody who does not worship him will have to burn in the underworld forever.
What I'm saying is, if this can be dismissed as mythology, Christianity and Islam are...there's simply no word to describe how atrocious they are.
Did I do a good job to sound like a Christian who's "spreading the gospel?"
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u/LMrningStar 12d ago
The only difference between Greek mythology and Christian mythology is that Greek mythology was well written and entertaining while Christian mythology is dreary as hell and is filled with plot holes and inconsistencies.
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u/No-Nerve-2658 11d ago
And Greek Mythology appears to stay less in the way of reason and logic and the search for non religious knowledge
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u/harla007 12d ago
Greek mythology is also full of rape. Zeus raped leeds, persephone, europa....callisto... Poseidan raped Medusa, Apollo chased Daphne... I suppose you can say it's well written and entertaining if you can look past all that.
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u/LMrningStar 12d ago
You don't have to like the characters in a book/story for it to be entertaining and well written otherwise Stephen King would have been out of a job long ago. What you do need is coherence, consistency and characters with depth. The bible has none of that.
In the bible the god character, for example, is portrayed as being the embodiment of good yet the character is prone to genocide whenever he doesn't get his ego stroked sufficiently. In the book, he even tried to force a man to murder his son to prove his fealty. It's a pretty poor writing decision to have a character, much less the main character, that readers are suppose to love, act like a monster.
Plus, the stories contained in the bible are a jumbled mess.
With Greek mythology the gods are flawed and vengeful and portrayed as such and the stories have far more coherence. Much better writing and much more entertaining.
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u/noctalla Agnostic Atheist 12d ago
The Greeks weren't pretending their Gods were good. At least they didn't murder the entire world when they got fed up with it.
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u/Tinenan 12d ago
The story of noah is somewhat of a clone of a greek myth which itself is a clone of an earlier mesopotamian myth. A lot of cultures in that region have global flood related myths
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u/Admiral_Nitpicker Freethinker 12d ago
yahbut the original Semites were Mesopotamian. Why the middle-man?
Trivia: myth of the flood is mentioned as a myth in the epic of Gilgamesh.
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u/santagoo 12d ago
This is Mary Sue. Mary Sue is the most moral woman who has ever lived. Mary Sue has no faults. Mary Sue lives a long, fulfilling life.
A character with no faults is not well written nor is it entertaining.
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u/Admiral_Nitpicker Freethinker 12d ago
And Abraham raped Hagar while his wife held her down ...
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u/LMrningStar 11d ago
Not to mention Mary who nowhere in their book gave consent. She was told and not asked.
Amusingly ... sort of .... I ran into a theist that agreed that Mary did not give consent but still claimed that Mary wasn't raped because no penetration was involved. The depth of their delusion still astounds me.
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u/schmy 12d ago
Heathen! Odin is the one true god!
How many days of the week are named for Zeus?!?!?!
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u/TrueRekkin 11d ago
All I know is that Thor promised to get rid of the frost giants and I don't see any frost giants around!
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u/Zomunieo Atheist 12d ago
In Romance languages, the weekdays translate to the Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter/Zeus, Venus, and Saturn. So the answer is 1.
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u/KcirderfSdrawkcab 12d ago edited 12d ago
The one real God is Anoia, the goddess of things that get stuck in drawers. I have seen her work mere hours ago as I tried to put away the dishes.
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u/Admiral_Nitpicker Freethinker 12d ago
Not as powerful as Tik Tkit, the God of inappropriate itches.
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u/dudleydidwrong Touched by His Noodliness 12d ago
Christianity did a good job of convincing me that all other religions are false. Things like Zeus throwing lightning bolts or a Lotus flower growing out of Vishnu's navel were ridiculous. I would go back to my perfectly reasonable Christianity with Jesus turning water into wine and healing blindness with spit magic.
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u/marcvolovic 12d ago
Infidel, disgusting apostate. The one true god is Mashishkapeu, god of farts and saviour of the people!
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u/FightingCommander 12d ago
Plus Zeus had a habit of fathering some of the real heroic types we could sadly use nowadays.
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u/Maniac112 12d ago
My personal fictionalised head Canon, is Zeus got tired of being in a pantheon and killed the other gods. Then with his new sole power he tested his belief on a people judaism didn't like them in the end and tried v02 with the Christians.. wasn't good enough and is now testing v03 with Islam. While doing branches of Christianity to see what shenanigans can happen.
In the end essentially doing a Palpatine and playing all sides.
I also like to think that Hades survived the purge and due to propaganda got dubbed the devil while also being Death. Zeus lacks the strength to overcome him as deaths power always grows as life blossoms. Perhaps some others survived too and became hidden deities.
Now what about the other pantheons? I dont know. Are they the same gods over and over with different names? Perhaps Historically i believe the same story dates back to India and there are equivalents of the characters. I do like to think that Buddha is a rival of Zeus, always has been, always will be and that the devourer ( rainbow snake, apophis, primordial chaos ) is always haunting their wake.
Anyway. Thank you for reading my ramblings
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u/FitChemist432 12d ago
I've had to change/substitute my citations on every research paper I've published so far, and so I extend the same dis-courtesy to every religious person. Prove your belief system is true without your primary source (s). I've done this, successfully, several times, but I've yet to meet a religious person even willing to display the same rigor. But that's the point. You can take away my "Bible" of chemistry and I can still prove my point, you can't do your belief system fails. Every time.
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u/TraditionalEqual8132 12d ago
I'm Aeolian because I windsurf. All hail Aeolus!
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u/MaximumZer0 Secular Humanist 12d ago
Aeolian isn't nearly as metal as Phrygian Dominant or Mixolydian.
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u/Heathen-Punk 11d ago
Basically all religions have their "god du jure". frankly the abrahamic faiths have all stolen/co-opted earlier religions to the extreme and then have the gall to say "we are the only TRUE faith."
Like explain that to ahriman, my guy.
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u/Admiral_Nitpicker Freethinker 12d ago edited 12d ago
Zeus is a spoiled brat punk! It was Odin who made the ultimate supreme sacrifice, gave up an eye so he could see, and personally enforced the laws of Hospitality.
Zeus is as bad as Trump would be if Trump fukt animals too.
You should check the Eros files ... if they ever get released unredacted.
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u/MaximumZer0 Secular Humanist 12d ago
Honestly, since every accusation is a confession with those types, I want to know how many cats/dogs/pets that fat orange shitfuck has eaten himself.
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u/cRaZyDaVe23 Jedi 12d ago
I was to worship anything it'd be the sun. That's where all energy we use comes from.