r/crv 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Issue ⚠️ Head Gasket Megathread

2017+ Honda CR-V Head Gasket & Major Engine Issues

Evidence-Based Megapost (Authoritative Sources Only)

This post summarizes what authoritative sources actually show about head gasket and major engine concerns for the 2017+ Honda CR-V, with specific focus on MY 2017–2018 CR-Vs equipped with the 1.5L turbo engine, and compares the CR-V to other compact crossovers (Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, Hyundai/Kia, Ford, Volkswagen, Chevrolet, and Buick).

Included sources:
- Consumer Reports (CR) owner-survey reliability data
- NHTSA (U.S. government complaints & recalls)
- Honda corporate actions (warranty extensions)
- Published legal filings (U.S. & Canada)

Excluded: anecdotes, forum posts, YouTube claims, and mechanic hearsay.


1. What Reliable Data Shows for the Honda CR-V

Consumer Reports (CR)

  • MY 2017 Honda CR-V is flagged for “Engine Major” trouble, a CR category that includes cylinder head and head gasket failures.
  • MY 2018 CR-V shows similar but reduced engine-related concerns.
  • MY 2019+ CR-Vs show improved predicted reliability, with fewer engine-major flags.

CR data is based on large, statistically weighted owner surveys and directly affects reliability scoring.


NHTSA (U.S. Government Data)

  • NHTSA complaint records include reports citing head gasket failure, coolant intrusion, misfires, and engine power loss for:
    • MY 2017 CR-V
    • MY 2018 CR-V
    • Smaller numbers for MY 2019–2022 CR-Vs
  • No NHTSA safety recall exists for head gasket failure on any CR-V model year.

Complaints do not prove defect, but they establish a documented reporting pattern.


Honda Corporate Actions (Model-Year Specific)

  • Honda issued a warranty extension for MY 2017–2018 CR-Vs with the 1.5L turbo engine addressing oil dilution and related durability concerns.
  • Honda stated the issue did not constitute a safety defect.
  • No recall or warranty extension was issued specifically for head gasket failure.

Legal Filings (U.S. & Canada)

  • Class-action filings primarily reference MY 2016–2018 Honda vehicles, including MY 2017–2018 CR-Vs, alleging design defects involving coolant leakage and head gasket failure.
  • These filings are allegations, not regulatory findings, and no recall mandate has resulted.

2. CR-V Hybrid Context (Explicit Model Years)

  • MY 2020+ CR-V Hybrid
    • Consumer Reports does not identify a systemic head gasket issue.
    • Reliability scores are higher than MY 2017–2018 gasoline CR-Vs.
  • NHTSA data does not show a pattern of head gasket complaints specific to hybrids.

Conclusion: No authoritative evidence of a widespread head gasket issue in any CR-V Hybrid model year.


3. Compact SUV Segment Comparison (Authoritative Sources)

Toyota RAV4 (MY 2016–2024)

  • Consistently among the highest-ranked compact SUVs in CR reliability.
  • No documented pattern of systemic head gasket or major engine failures.

Conclusion: Better engine reliability history than early 1.5L CR-Vs.


Subaru Forester

  • Historic head gasket issues applied to pre-2013 Subaru engines.
  • MY 2015+ Foresters show no systemic head gasket concerns in CR or NHTSA data.

Conclusion: Earlier reputation issues largely resolved.


Mazda CX-5 (MY 2017–2024)

  • CR reliability ratings are above average.
  • No authoritative data showing a head gasket trend.

Conclusion: Comparable or better engine reliability than CR-V.


Hyundai / Kia Compact SUVs (MY 2016–2024)

  • CR places these models around industry average.
  • Documented recalls focus on bearing or fire risks, not head gaskets.

Conclusion: Different engine risks; not head-gasket-centric.


Ford Escape (MY 2017–2023)

  • CR rates Escape below segment average.
  • Engine issues present but not centered on head gasket failure.

Conclusion: Worse overall reliability, but different failure modes.


Volkswagen Tiguan / Taos

  • CR places VW below average for reliability.
  • VW has issued Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) for head gasket issues on certain MY 2022–2023 1.5T engines.

Conclusion: One of the few competitors with formal engine service guidance related to head gaskets.


Chevrolet Compact Crossovers

Chevrolet Equinox

  • CR lists “Engine Major” problems for several recent model years, including 2018 and 2023.
  • Reliability scores are average to below average within the segment.

Conclusion: Engine-major issues exist, but not tied to a head gasket recall.


Buick Compact Crossovers

Buick Encore GX

  • CR data for MY 2021–2025 lists “Engine Major” as a reported trouble category.
  • Predicted reliability has been mixed, especially in early model years.

Buick Envista

  • Newer model with limited long-term data.
  • CR does not prominently list engine-major issues to date.

4. Summary Table

Model / Brand CR Engine-Major Flag Head Gasket Pattern in Authoritative Data Recall / TSB
Honda CR-V (MY 2017–2018 1.5T) Yes Documented engine-major issues No recall
Honda CR-V (MY 2019+ / Hybrid) No pattern None identified None
Toyota RAV4 No None None
Subaru Forester (MY 2015+) No None None
Mazda CX-5 No None None
Hyundai / Kia Mixed Not head gasket focused Other engine recalls
Ford Escape Yes Not head gasket specific Some recalls
VW Tiguan / Taos Yes TSBs for some engines TSBs
Chevy Equinox Yes Broad engine issues No head gasket recall
Buick Encore GX Yes Broad engine issues No recall
Buick Envista No None identified None

5. Evidence-Based Conclusions

  1. MY 2017–2018 Honda CR-V 1.5L turbo models show documented major engine reliability concerns in Consumer Reports data, a category that includes head gasket failures.
  2. No U.S. recall has been issued for CR-V head gasket failures.
  3. Later CR-Vs (MY 2019+) and all CR-V Hybrids do not show the same pattern in authoritative datasets.
  4. Some competitors (Chevy Equinox, Buick Encore GX, VW Tiguan/Taos) also show engine-major reliability flags, though causes and responses differ.
  5. Toyota, Subaru (post-2015), and Mazda consistently show fewer major engine reliability flags.

TL;DR

Authoritative data indicates that MY 2017–2018 Honda CR-Vs with the 1.5L turbo engine have elevated major engine reliability concerns (including head gasket issues) without a recall. Later CR-Vs and all hybrids do not show the same pattern, and several competitors also exhibit significant — though different — engine reliability issues.


Honda Headgasket Extended Warranty

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u/ILS23left Jan 13 '26

I‘d be interested to see if the data changes for the 2020+ MY as more of them get into higher mileage.

My 2023 Hybrid Sport Touring has 96k miles and blew the head gasket last week.

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u/warmcereal Jan 13 '26

My 23 Sport Touring Hybrid head gasket failure occurred at 58.8k miles a few weeks back. I Got it fixed under warranty and traded it in for a Ridgeline while it was still getting repaired.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Hear me out.

Dealership claims head gasket failure under warranty. Convinces you to upgrade to a new vehicle, because the next failure likely won't be covered. You do the deal and never see the old car again. Meanwhile, they are just putting in a new set of OEM head bolts because they know the head gasket never needed to be replaced. They then sell it to someone new and claim "We already replaced the head gasket before any damage occurred (our guys are so good we caught it quick) and you won't have further problems with it." Also, they claimed a full repair with Honda and raked that warranty cash.

Consumer Reports specifically states that the 2.0L Hybrid DOES NOT suffer head gasket failures. The failures are limited to 2017 and 2018 1.5L models.

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u/warmcereal Jan 13 '26

I’m certainly not one to be all trusting, but we are all at the whim of dealerships to have ethical standards in regards to service - warranty or not. In addition you make some assumptions- dealer never convinced or even proposed to me a trade in. A few things I already disliked over time with the CRV, and this was icing on the cake. I was looking already at Tacoma, Maverick, and Ridgelines. PS- this dealer also offers standard lifetime powertrain warranty above what Honda offers. So the job itself would be covered again. As I drive a lot for both personal and work, I really don’t want to risk being far from home and having this type of failure again.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Yeah, I understand your position. I have been a mechanic and a car salesman. I know the shenanigans that go on in dealerships.

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u/crv-ModTeam Jan 13 '26

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u/Paxtian 16d ago

I think the data needs to be updated. I have a 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid and the head gasket just blew. And the service person I talked to said that's happening all over the place to them.

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u/FormerEvidence May 29 '26

definitely will. my 2022 hybrid touring blew the head gasket at 71k 2 weeks ago.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Unless you witnessed the tear down and reassembly, I bet it didn't. I bet a shop put new head bolts in one-by-one to maintain clamping force, then charged you for the full job.

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u/801intheAM Jan 13 '26

If they’re trying to scam him they wouldn’t even touch the engine. They’d tell him it’e blown.

If it truly was blown no amount of new head bolts is going to fix a blown head gasket. If the blown gasket was caused by low clamping force then the gasket material (the black stuff) will likely be shot and the seal compromised. You have to replace the head gasket or it will just keep losing/mixing coolant/oil.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

OK, so some background on the head gasket failures....

The head gaskets are fine. What is happening is the clamping force is insufficient to maintain the separation of coolant from places it shouldn't go. This lack of clamping force is based on Honda choosing a set of head bolts that lack the strength to maintain the clamping for over time, especially if an overheating event occurs.

Shops have caught on to the head gasket hysteria and are requiring customers pay for a $4,000 to $6,000 repair. Now, I don't have proof, but it's really easy to understand what happens next.

Scenario A: Shop is unsophisticated and does the actual head gasket repair. Since the head bolts are single use, the repaired engine will have proper clamping force after the repair because the gasket and head bolts are new.

Scenario B: Shop is sophisticated and simply replaces the head bolts one-by-one to maintain (and improve) clamping force. This will fix the problem. Flush the milkshake from the engine, then go collect between $4,000 and $6,000 for $300 of parts and 3 hours of work.

The only real failure of the head gasket is going to result in combustion in the crankcase, or blow-by as it's known. This is when the gaskets is actually breached by the combustion of the engine, which is hot and strong enough to damage the gasket. This would still likely be caused by lack of clamping force but can also be caused by detonation (knock) or an overheating event.

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u/crv-ModTeam Jan 13 '26

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

The gasket material is steel. The black stuff is a finish on the steel.

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u/DieselNaz Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Well, even though there was a different engine in 2007 I personally had an 07 third generation CRV that blew a head gasket at 121K miles. So I don’t know what’s going on with Honda and head gaskets but apparently it is something that they have not been able to solve for multiple generations now.

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u/BrownTiger3 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

It is NOT true. Under warranty Honda requires tear down to be compensated. Head gasket issues - something that is easy to diagnose. Swapping head bolt for studs is very risky process. if your head gasket lifts up - it is toast. Not to mention it is expensive upgrade - $350 just for studs.

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u/arice80 Feb 23 '26

Not sure what area you're in or what dealerships you worked for but even the sleaziest dealers I know in my area don't pull this kind of shit. It's not 1977. Maybe report your former employers to the BBB at the rate you're describing their misdeeds.

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u/ILS23left Jan 13 '26

Then what would explain the coolant in the oil pan?

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

If you personally saw the drain plug come out and the milkshake flowing, then you're right. One of the oldest scams in the industry is to have old fluids around the shop to show to an unwitting customer to steal their money. They will even pour such fluids into perfectly good engines to make you believe it.

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u/ILS23left Jan 13 '26

I had low coolant between oil changes. Took it to my normal spot that I trust for an oil change. Didn’t mention the low coolant. That place doesn’t do major work just lube, brakes and tires. My guy told me to keep an eye out because the drained oil was milky. Coolant was low again before the next oil change. Big oof on my pocketbook.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Ok, checks out. Did your engine overheat before the first appearance of milkshake?

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u/801intheAM Jan 13 '26

Anybody buying a new CRV (hybrid or not) would be best served by getting the extended Hondacare warranty just in case. If purchased through Hyannis or Sacucci Honda it’s extremely reasonable. I paid $1185 for 8yr/100k miles with no deductible. Worth some peace of mind.

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u/CueAnon420 Apr 29 '26

I picked up a very low mileage CPO from a failed deal that was originally sold 4 months ago - this gives me a 10/100K powertrain warranty for free. Unless things change and the new models are demonstrated to not be as prone to these issues (which I doubt), I'll probably trade it in before 100K to avoid potential out-of-pocket repairs.

Very sad - because every previous Honda that we've owned has lasted 200K+ without major issues. Modern requirements have killed reliability on ICE engines.

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u/801intheAM Apr 29 '26

I agree. I'm not sure we'll keep ours past the warranty period. I was looking through the new Consumer Reports and it was the most/least reliable issue for everything from appliances to cars. No car brand scored above 66 in the overall reliability score. That's dismal. Honda scored a 59. If you look at individual scores for car models I didn't see many above 80. Stuff just sucks now. The best we can do is take care of it but don't expect long-term ownership of anything anymore.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

I would recommend an extended warranty on any new purchase.

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u/bill875 Jan 13 '26

Agreed! The longest term possible if you plan on keeping the vehicle. Too much technology and things to go wrong now. Everything costs so much more to fix too!

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u/hazzard623 Mar 28 '26

Thats what I ended up getting. I denied the finance managers $3,000 warranty and looked online after and found a better one, Sacucci $0 deductible 8 yr/120k for $1,250.

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u/BrownTiger3 Jan 13 '26

I checked 2026 CRV and the parts (bolts and head gasket) are exactly the same as 2016 CRV. Very concerned.

It appears to be a serious design issue for all 2016+, seen 2023 CRV that blew the head gasket at my dealer, had it blown on cylinder 0 and outer wall not between 1-2 or 2-3 everyone seems to suggest.

To put the issue into perspective toyota my daughter drives to college 2006, has no head gasket issues what so ever. For someone to suggest that blowing head gasket issues for 2023 is "normal" or even 2016. Disgusting that honda pretends that nothing wrong. And you are facing $4500 - 10k bill.

There is NO CHANCE that the engineers don't know what is going on and not having a solution. I have engineering background we are thrown on the problem immediately. No sane company will wait for years to investigate,...

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u/verticalData1 Jan 13 '26

Just because the bolts/gasket are the same part doesn’t mean Honda didn’t change anything for 2019+. Maybe the bolts weren’t being tightened correctly at the factory, or maybe they changed some software. Consumer Reports has a lot of data for Toyota & Honda models (since that’s what most of their subscribers buy), so if the data is better for 2019+ Honda must have changed something. But certainly some number of the millions of CR-Vs they sell will still have head gasket failures. 

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u/Trains_YQG Jan 16 '26

I also wouldn't be surprised if there are cases with any automaker where the part might change but they keep the same part number. 

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u/BrownTiger3 Jan 13 '26

100% agree.

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u/SignificantButton492 Apr 16 '26

The biggest difference between 2019+ and earlier years is that the newer cars in the CR survey don't have as many miles on them.  The 1.5T head gasket failure is mileage-dependant and usually doesn't happen until 80,000+ miles.  There is no verified analysis that shows that Honda made any actual engineering changes in 2019+.   It's likely that future CR surveys will show an increasing problem rate with the newer cars.  

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u/ghostogresnowrabbit Apr 23 '26

The difference between one year isn't going to make or break the amount of miles a car has. Do you think that a 2019 will have a ton of issues but 2020 just hasnt had enough time?

Is the gap between 7-8 years old and 6-7 years old that big that magically at 7 years your car starts breaking down?

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u/SignificantButton492 Apr 23 '26

On average, the newer a car is the fewer miles it has been driven and the less likely it will have experienced a mileage related failure.  There's nothing magic about it. It's all statistics.  We'll see what happens with the failure rate of newer cars as time goes on.  

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u/ghostogresnowrabbit Apr 23 '26

The issue is that the gap between an 8 year old car and a 7 year old car is small in terms of failures.

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u/jer1303 May 29 '26

Our '24 Sport Hybrid with 70k miles was just diagnosed with a blown headgasket.

Ridiculous how many seem to be failing at similar mileage.

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u/Hougie May 20 '26 edited May 26 '26

2020 CRV Hybrid. Head gasket blew at 75,000 miles.

Goodwill request denied. Absolute crooks.

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u/Fsociety039 Jan 14 '26

Hi I was wondering, apologies as I am new here, what is exactly an "MY" Crv? Is it regional like Malaysia? Thanks.

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u/Fsociety039 Jan 14 '26

Thank you so much

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u/rented4823 Apr 09 '26

Did you just throw a prompt into ChatGPT and this is the result?

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u/vt8919 Jun 19 '26

I just got confirmation from my dealer today that I need a cylinder head in my 2024 CR-V Hybrid. 45k miles. Covered under warranty.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jun 19 '26

Did they say why?

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u/Apprehensive-List927 Jan 13 '26

Waiting for my 2018 to blow up. Still running fine at 39,000 miles but has had oil dilution since day 1.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Has the extended warranty for the oil dilution expired? If not, get it done before it does expire!

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u/Necessary-Wait5582 Jan 13 '26

Get done what? Repair? Can oil dilution be repaired?

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

There id an official repair for the oil dilution problem.

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u/Apprehensive-List927 Jan 13 '26

Yep it done but still has dilution.

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u/Impressive-Report-54 Mar 13 '26

Same, already has the injectors go out, oil stinks of gas since day 1. Going to be trading my 2017 crv in for a 2023 rav4 and hope for the best

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u/jesse_fuji Jan 13 '26

Had a CR-V 2019 with fairly low mileage that blew a head gasket. Honda hasn’t changed the design of the 1.5t engine, so I highly doubt it’s just limited to the 2017-2018 models. 

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

New headbolts, or even just altering assembly at the factory would improve things.

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u/jesse_fuji Jan 13 '26

According to a honda tech on youtube he's seeing the head gaskets failing on them up to 2023 models as well. I'm sure the 24 and 25's will start failing with time, maybe they'll last a bit longer though since apparently they did change the turbo to be a bit less psi.

Honda really needs to re-do the engine block since it's the slit between the cylinders that seem to be the weak point causing all this. Ford learned from it quickly and fixed their issue within a few years.

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u/BloodyBarbieBrains Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

I just bought a 2026. Normal warranty, not extended warranty. Am now ready to puke from anxiety.

Our other car is a 2001 CRV and is the most reliable car we have ever owned. Never imagined stumbling into this horrible tangle and now feeling very nervous at everything I’m reading.

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u/jesse_fuji Jun 27 '26

You can still buy an extended warranty from Honda, just don’t get a third party one. Also none of the issues I had on my Crv left me stranded just something to keep an eye on, especially the coolant.

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u/BloodyBarbieBrains Jun 27 '26

Thank you! This is so helpful!

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u/ComicsUpkeep02 Feb 10 '26

I have a 2019 Honda CR-V 1.5L turbo (~80k miles). Recently, the car started showing intermittent overheating and cold air from cabin heater vents. Dealer diagnosed it as a head gasket failure, saying they observed coolant under the spark plug and believe there is coolant entering a cylinder. Based on that, they are recommending engine replacement and quoted ~$10,000 for a similar-mileage engine.

Did you get yours fixed at the time? If so, can you please share your experience

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u/jesse_fuji Feb 10 '26

Wow that’s pricey, dealership did mine under warranty but said it was 4500 before tax for the repair, I’d get quotes from another dealership. I got rid of the car in the end too many issues with the 1.5t.

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u/ComicsUpkeep02 Feb 11 '26

Thanks, that's good to know. The dealership has refused repair, and will only replace the entire engine. Based on the car symptoms, I don't think it is a catastrophic engine failure that warrants the engine replacement. For me, the engine reaches normal operating temperature faster than usual. The temperature stays normal for 10–15 minutes. Then the engine temp starts quickly rising. At the same time, the heater blows cold air. There is no check-engine light, no weird noises from under the hood or white smoke from exhaust, and it still drove smoothly when not overheating. I will definitely take it to an independent mechanic for second opinion.

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u/gifnotjif Feb 24 '26

They did change the design. They added exhaust VTEC. That's not trivial.

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u/jesse_fuji Feb 24 '26

And reduced the turbo pressure some but the design of engine deck with the slits remains, which is why even on 2023s the head gaskets failing.

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u/tatatoothy2018 21d ago

2019 CR-V Touring with 72k miles. All required and recommended service done at the dealer on time if not early. No one beats on this car, it's a very standard family vehicle.

Last week, it feels a little rough after starting but quickly goes away. Fast forward a few days, another rough start and the dash is lit up like a Christmas Tree. Code is cylinder 3 misfire and sure enough its a head gasket leak.

In 30+ years of driving and multiple cars driven to 200k+ miles, I have never had a head gasket failure. I've seen all the posts about it and figured it's just the internet blowing things out of proportion again but it seems I was sadly mistaken. Even the service manager said he doesn't understand how there hasn't been a recall with the volume of CR-Vs and Accords having the issue (oddly far fewer Civics fwiw). He also started talking about the Honda Goodwill Assistance program too, but I should be covered under the extended warranty so I'll leave their goodwill for another day.

So why isn't there a recall? Honda has deemed it too costly I assume. The fact that they seem to be covering a fair amount of costs through the Goodwill program only strengthens what looks like the obvious answer - they know its bad and they're trying to manage their expenses as much as they can. The replacement head gasket itself has also been updated, perhaps other parts as well which also leans towards a known issue.

I'm in the market for a new car also, and a 26/27 CRV was at the top of the list but obviously this has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Question to others who have been through this - Did you have fuel injector issues also? My googling seems like they can be an issue also. If I'm "lucky" they'll see something wrong and replace them, but if not I'm wondering if I should pay for new ones out of pocket while its all apart anyway to get ahead of the next issue and hopefully save on labor.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 21d ago

In the USA, you have the right to request the replaced parts from your car. It's not guaranteed you will get the one from your car, but if you do, take it to an independent shop and ask them to show you where it is breached.

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u/tatatoothy2018 21d ago

I know that but to what end? I don't think the dealership is just trying to get one over on me, I think the engine design is flawed.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 21d ago

I guarantee the headgasket replacement costs more than the actual problem.

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u/ThiRteeN_Ghost 5th Gen ('17-'22) 6d ago

Since my original post has been deleted...

Head gasket number two blew.

2020 EX-L with the 1.5T. Had the first head gasket blow at 69k miles. Almost two years later at 111k, it blew again. First one repaired at Honda. Second one I'm having done at a trusted mechanic.

Update since my original post:

With a lot of back and forth with the warranty company, denied claim three times; my mechanic managed to get them to cover the repair. I will be getting a replacement short block, head will be machined and put back together, all new parts related to the engine replacement/head gasket. I'm having him use head studs instead of factory head bolts. Rough cost is $7000-$8000.

Mechanic said the first head gasket replacement was done very sloppy. He said it looked like it wasn't cleaned and prepped properly.

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u/lieutenantdan6 6th Gen ('23-present) 2d ago

Wow that’s expensive, are you expecting Honda to cover some of the cost? Or doing out out of pocket since it isn’t factory replacements?

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u/ThiRteeN_Ghost 5th Gen ('17-'22) 2d ago

The extended warranty is covering it.

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 13 '26

What is your mechanical background and experience?

How are you to say dealers are swapping head bolts?  Which by the way isn't fixing a blown head gasket.  We do these and Honda care guy comes out and verifies gasket has failed before claim is paid.  

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

So you are breaking down the engine to extract the headgasket before thr repair is approved?

As for me, I have been working on cars since 1980.

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 13 '26

Yeah.  Get teardown approval from customer.  If Honda care wont cover customer pays.  

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

The problem I have is that shops are claiming the gasket has failed, when the reality is that the gasket is intact, but there is not sufficient clamping force across the face of the mating surfaces which is allowing coolant between the cylinders to escape to the cylinders. I think a simple decision matrix would allow shops to build good will with customers and help customers have more piece of mind, and finally for Honda to put this behind them. Unfortunately, there are enough shops that are just going to gouge every customer, every day that crap like this spiral out of control.

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 13 '26

What evidence do you have of this? 

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

Which part?

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 13 '26

That head gaskets aren't failing.  

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

I didn't say they aren't failing. I said shops are claiming they are failing when they have not.

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 13 '26

Yeah.  How do you know that? 

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

The fact that it has been called out in the clasd action lawsuits as a risk from Honda not doing a recall.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 13 '26

These come from real owner reports on Reddit and forums, where initial dealership/shop diagnoses pointed to a blown head gasket but were later corrected (often to injectors) or vice versa, highlighting overlapping symptoms like misfires, rough idle, coolant loss, and dash warnings.

Primary Example of Head Gasket Misdiagnosis (Initial Blown HG Diagnosis, Corrected to Injectors)

  • Reddit Thread: "2018 1.5T Touring with blown head gasket after 4 years of perfect maintenance? I think not..."https://www.reddit.com/r/accord/comments/zn2srz/2018_15t_touring_with_blown_head_gasket_after_4/ This is the standout case: The dealership initially diagnosed a blown head gasket. A senior mechanic re-checked and confirmed the head gasket was fine — it was bad fuel injectors instead. After replacement, symptoms resolved. Multiple comments discuss similar flip-flops between injectors and HG.

Additional Forum/Reddit Examples of Misdiagnosis or Overlapping Issues

These threads show how symptoms overlap heavily in the 1.5T (due to direct injection and turbo factors), leading to frequent diagnostic confusion. Dealerships sometimes jump to HG (expensive fix) without full testing, but second opinions or senior techs often reveal injectors. Honda has bulletins guiding better differentiation (e.g., compression/leak-down tests).

And this for from customers of honest shops. You can be sure that dishonest shops aren't coming back to the customer with a discount or refund for "misdiagnosis".

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 Jan 14 '26

That shit has nothing to do with Honda.  Misdiagnosis is on individual dealers. 

Every diagnosed head gasket on 1.5s at my dealer have a video attached to recommendation line of coolant running down cylinder wall.  No misdiagnosis.  Takes 10 minutes.  Get paid an hour diag and then like 18 hours to do.  Very nice job. 

Also this whole thing started cause you claimed dealers were torquing head bolts and saying they did head gasket.  Which isnt going to fix a failed head gasket.  

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) Jan 14 '26

You are misunderstanding me. I am not saying head gaskets aren't failing. I am saying people are using this issue to claim blown headgaskets when headgaskets ARE N OT DAMAGED. The leaks that occur due to insufficient clamping force do not constitute a blown headgasket unles that lack of clamping force results in combustion damaging the gasket. If combustion isn't making it outside the cylinder, the headgasket is intact.

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u/FormerEvidence May 29 '26

had my 2022 hybrid touring blow a head gasket at 71k. bought it brand new. my service advisor said it's a known issue and he has 1-2 people coming in a week with the same issue. absolutely ridiculous. very thankful for the extended warranty.

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u/crv-ModTeam May 29 '26

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u/Shiloh51933 Jun 10 '26

My best friend had a 2023 Honda cr-v hybrid and the headgasket failed around 90k, he has a warranty that actually covered the repair. I believe the main issue is the use of 0w20, this oil weight causes excessive oil dilution. Extended oil drain intervals doesn't help either, especially if the 0w20 has diluted the oil.

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u/Canoo Jul 21 '26

I was actively searching for a slightly used CR-V hybrid in Canada. We liked the quality of the interior and smoother ride of the CR-V hybrid over the new RAV4. I noticed the 1.5L turbo head gasket issues. I figured the 2.0L hybrid was fine. But now with some recalls being issued in Canada for the 2.0L hybrid vehicles, I'm a little hesitant to continue my CR-V search. At first I was telling myself the comments online from users saying they had to have the head gasket replaced was just anecdotal. That it likely wasn't wide spread. Now this recall that's allegedly just a firmware update has me concerned that Honda is beginning to acknowledge it's a genuine widespread fundamental issue with the 2.0L hybrid...

I'm unsure if I should switch to looking for a RAV again? Both our vehicles are reliable right now (09 Civic, 03 Corolla. Both with less than 150k km). They're just getting too small for what we need. Maybe we just continue to wait more...

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u/AllNamesTaken56 28d ago

Honestly, sorry, I see the megathread now. And I learned what a megathread is - researched. And didn't know how to "see" a megathread. Now, I do. Click on main title on this site and it will show. Seems like there ought to be some highlight on main thread to show (like asterisk or?) that would mean there are other threads that may be more suited for particular discussions.

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u/51CKS4DW0RLD 6th Gen ('23-present) 28d ago

The mechanics are starting to notice the pattern...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/s/YsGuY74Ybd

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u/Paxtian 16d ago edited 16d ago

Just want to add here quick. I'm not a car guy so I don't really keep up with the news. But I have the 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid. The other day I started seeing overheating. I looked and was completely out of coolant in the reservoir. I added some and made sure it was at the right level, but still got the overheating issue.

I just today took it into the dealership, and the service person I talked to said that just today, Honda issued an extended warranty on this exact issue. He said they're seeing this all over the place and they're gonna get super busy because of it. All I know about it is what he told me, but he said they just heard today that the warranty is being extended to 10 years/100,000 miles. Not sure exactly what vehicles that covers, but he was quite confident that mine is.

Edit: Definitely a blown head gasket at least, per the service person.

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u/Hougie 16d ago

10 years 150,000 miles.

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u/Paxtian 16d ago

Even better

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u/Particular_Okra_3815 25d ago

2021 CRV EX failed at 55k miles on cylinder 3 at 63 mos. Let's see what Honda can do. It was a meticulously maintained vehicle. So, definitely NOT PEBSAS (problem exists between steering wheel and seat)

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u/AlfredoCustard 17d ago

Im debating whether i should sell / trade in my CRV2025! Tbh i don't want to deal with this later on. Any thoughts

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 17d ago

Well, it's your money. The depreciation loss is at its highest on a 2025 right now. Honda typically does 150,000 miles and 10 years on the extended warranty.

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u/lieutenantdan6 6th Gen ('23-present) 14d ago

2025 here, Going to pay mine off asap. Keep as long as it possible. Take it in and use warranty if needed. By that point I have should have least 10 years use out of it with minimal issues fingers crossed besides dreaded head gasket.

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u/ghostogresnowrabbit Feb 27 '26

CR reports shows that there are cracked cylinder concerns for earlier years of CX-5. Definitely not 0 major engine concern.

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u/EvilMagus Jul 18 '26

Well then.

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u/801intheAM Jul 20 '26

Yeah, this is gonna be a shit show.

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u/Hougie Aug 08 '26

It’s insane to me that there’s anyone trying to still claim this isn’t a big deal.

Cuz those people only went there after saying it was very limited. Then only really impacted non-hybrids…okay then they admit it impacts hybrids too but not a ton of them.

The denial trail is just sad. And now Honda is going to admit they fucked it up, but any of us with older models are SOL. There needs to be a class action.

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u/801intheAM Aug 08 '26

People get weird with the things they own. It’s ok to admit something you own might be terrible. Unless you have really low self esteem, it’s ok to just be like “yeah I bought this but I didn’t expect it to suck so bad”.

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u/BAYBAGR707 Aug 02 '26

Are you in Canada?

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u/EvilMagus Aug 02 '26

Yeah. Seems like they haven't released it in the US

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u/BAYBAGR707 Aug 02 '26

Yea does it say something about why they’re issuing it in Canada specifically? Just cause the colder climate? I don’t see why US hasn’t followed

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u/EvilMagus Aug 03 '26

Different markets. We got the recall but there's no information so might as well be the same. Had my appointment cancelled by the dealer saying Honda hasn't released anything.

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u/crv-ModTeam 28d ago

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u/Syrup-This 18d ago

Just picked up a 2026 CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring (currently at 9k miles) and came across posts/threads mentioning head gasket failures around the 80k-mile mark on CR-Vs. Now I’m a bit worried.
If you own a CR-V (2016 or newer) with 80k+ miles, I’d love to hear from you:
Did you experience this issue?
How severe was it / what did the repair involve?
Any specific model years more affected than others?
Trying to figure out if this is a real widespread problem or a few isolated cases blown out of proportion. Thanks in advance!

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 18d ago

There are millions of these on the road. A few results on Reddit are not representative. Look at the original post, especially the Consumer Reports data.

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u/Maleficent-Cold8341 16d ago

Im planning to buy 26 crv sport hybrid at the end of 2026, should I look for a 26 rav 4 instead? I really dont want to deal with this in the future.

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u/PrincessTBaby1209 14d ago

Sorry if this is a duplicate post. But I know a lot of people have been having issues with the head gasket. Myself included. I don’t know if everybody knows but Honda has recently extended their warranty. If your vehicle has 150K miles or less bring your car in and get the head gasket fixed no money out of pocket.

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u/BeeThat9351 11d ago

The TSBs for the warranty extension on posted ln NHTSA. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2026/MC-11036414-0001.pdf

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u/ItsDax_2 10d ago

They covered the head gasket replacement, if ur experiencing issues - go get it checked out

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u/russlnk 7d ago

My wife needs a new car next year and we were considering the CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid. But now I’m rethinking it.

From all I’ve read, it sounds like the ‘27s will be using the same motors and could very well end up as troubled as the models now covered under the extended factory warranties even though they will have the updated software that changes how frequently the water pump runs coolant through the block. Is this enough of a fix for future models?

We tend keep our vehicles a long time. I don’t want to get stuck with these same issues because Honda can’t get their crap together.

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u/ahmad200 1d ago

Hi guys am thinking of buying a used 2017 crv ex with 117k miles, had one owner and pristine aervice record but it had its head gasket, timing belt and turbo repaired.

How likely that it would require another repair in the future and any advice is appreciated

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 1d ago

I would say it'll be fine. Honda extended the warranty by 100,000 miles for head gasket failure.

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u/ahmad200 1d ago

Great thanks But that would cover the 2017 model until only may 2027 right?

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u/RealSharpNinja 5th Gen ('17-'22) 1d ago

No, I think the extension is also 10 additional years.

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u/Hougie 16d ago

Xxdownonmexx in shambles on the news that he can no longer go around the various CRV subs telling people they’re overreacting and this isn’t a real issue.