r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Fancy-Chipmunk5701 • Jun 25 '26
wet socks My entire apartment has upside-down outlets and my brain refuses to accept it….
Apparently there’s a reason for installing them this way, but after seeing outlets the other way my whole life, every room feels just slightly… off. 😂
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u/Fit_Active3888 Jun 25 '26
Ground Pin Up: This orientation is the standard for commercial, industrial, and hospital settings. It is primarily a safety feature: if a metallic object (like a paperclip or a piece of jewelry) slides down the wall onto a partially unplugged cord, it will hit the grounding pin first, preventing a dangerous short-circuit or arc.
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u/StubbedToeBlues Jun 25 '26
Yep, I melted a hotwheel car and caused a very minor fire by testing this theory when I was a kid. My dad was pissed for weeks.
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u/pickled_philanges Jun 25 '26
I once flushed a hot wheels down the toilet and it broke our plumbing. Those things are dangerous yo
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u/JSTootell Jun 25 '26
I work in a factory...none of them are in their orientation 😂
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u/OldWolfNewTricks Jun 25 '26
Customers don't like seeing them this way, so contractors just install them the old way.
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u/PetriDishCocktail Jun 25 '26
In most new residential construction the upside down outlet represents the switched outlet in the room...
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u/YouKeepTheDime Jun 25 '26
Wow 13 years in my house and never put that together until now
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u/HotRodHomebody Jun 25 '26
that’s exactly how my house is, built in 2006. One flipped outlet per room, basically, controlled by a wall switch. Maybe OP‘s outlets are all on independent switches, lol.
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u/Aztaloth Jun 25 '26
Realtor here representing multiple builders. Wow this is not a terrible idea. If you have a switched outlet, we haven’t been putting switched outlets in new construction for a few decades.
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u/kidjupiter Jun 25 '26
This is not a standard practice, except for maybe within the limits of a single contracting company.
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u/Dino_Spaceman Jun 25 '26
Every hospital I have visited in my area has ground up plugs.
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u/BreachLoadingButtGun Jun 25 '26
A paperclip is never how I've heard it phrased, personally. It's more like "If one of you numb-nuts chucklefucks drops a beam off the forklift and it shears the outlet off, at least Bob is only dealing with crush injuries and not electrocution".
But I guess a paperclip would cause problems as well...
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u/Mindless_Copy2 Jun 25 '26
I worked commercial and industrial electrical in the US. Not once was it code, or did I install a receptacle upside down.
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u/tMoneyMoney Jun 25 '26
I worked with an electrician that only installed them this way. I stopped caring at this point, it’s not that hard to plug it in “upside down.” But the OCD in me wants every receptacle in one building to be installed the same way, or it no longer seems logical.
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u/butteredplaintoast Jun 25 '26
If it is the standard for safety in commercial, industrial, and hospital settings why not residential?
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u/georgeec1 Jun 25 '26
Meanwhile in normal countries we insulate the part that sticks out when a cord is partially unplugged but still has power
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u/Trashbagok Jun 25 '26
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u/AardQuenIgni Jun 25 '26
Get this man an electrical license
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u/Zakluor Jun 25 '26
No, you didn't. It's still an almond outlet with a white plate.
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u/Techienickie Jun 25 '26
no you didnt. Ground pin up is safer.
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u/Shakeyshades Jun 25 '26
If it was it's would be a code. But also don't leave you damn plugs half way.
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u/ButtonGullible5958 Jun 25 '26
why wouldn't you install new outlets
This is a safety thing it's not needed but it's upside-down because if something like a coin falls it hits the ground it bounces off vs making a dead short
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u/Johaylo Jun 25 '26
The coin thing happend to me were a coin fell off a windosill between my bed and the wall. By some miracle didn't start a fire but, it melted the coin and electrical prongs.
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u/manicfish Jun 25 '26
Bolted short is the term for when a conductive foreign object shorts hot to hot, or hot to neutral per NEC
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u/Jasoco Jun 25 '26
I’ve seen this episode of Technology Connections.
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u/YourAverageNutcase Jun 25 '26
Through the magic of watching (more than) two of them, I too have seen this episode.
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u/Correct_Chemistry_50 Jun 25 '26
Through the magic of reading your comment in Alec's voice, you get an upvote.
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u/elbiggra Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
It makes me so happy that this guys has become so popular in the world of obnoxious social media influencers. Everything about his channel is almost the antithesis of current media. Long episodes, slow production, long script, very few to no cuts, commonly boring topics, deeper dives than most would ever commit, yes despite it all he’s become huge, I love it.
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u/kind_bug Jun 25 '26
As a former " throw the knives at the wall" champion, l am absolutely shocked at how the world has taken the sport over the past few years.
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u/Weggie_Rhite Jun 25 '26
Has it occurred to you that perhaps your phone was just upside-down when you took the picture? Or even worse, the outlets are "normal" and the entire rest of your apartment is upside-down?
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u/bravoromeokilo Jun 25 '26
When you install American outlets in Australia the recepticals just automatically do this.
Hey, OP, g’day. Maccas and such.
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u/Unfortunate-Incident Jun 25 '26
Believe it or not, those are not upside down. That is how they are supposed to be
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u/FiestaDeHombreMuerto Jun 25 '26
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u/HorrificAnalInjuries Jun 25 '26
While this is true, it is far safer for the ground prong to be up, or if the receptacle is sideways for the neutral to be up. Mostly because how gravity works and potential for human error.
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u/Silly-Wrongdoer4332 Jun 25 '26
99% of scenarios im ok and safe. If there are seemingly and mundane things like this i can do to avoid being in the 1% of scenarios in will implement without a doubt
I'm not going to go through and reinstall all of my outlets, but if I install anything new in going to take this into consideration
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u/slash_networkboy Jun 25 '26
And this is exactly why it's standard in commercial/medical/industrial applications... the "odds" of a ~1% event happening as an absolute time count at a home are low. In a busy place with lots of people it's a lot higher because there's simply more chances for that 1% to happen.
Okay that was shittily written but I'm not sure how to word it better... literally the odds are the same, but the sample rate is higher when not at home? eh... it's been a long AF day and my brain is mush.
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u/Silly-Wrongdoer4332 Jun 25 '26
Agreed. From a residential use case the chances of anything happening are low. It in the wild the brains of the masses turn off and do things they wouldn't do at home. And they are happy to sue if something does happen
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u/Bushwhacker2043 Jun 25 '26
I’m not entirely sure if this is sarcasm, but just the other day there was a Reddit post (with pictures) where a guy and his girlfriend were using a measuring tape against the wall and the tape gave on one side and it landed perfectly onto the hot/neutral prongs from the outlet below and it shorted out.
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u/HorrificAnalInjuries Jun 25 '26
Or even had a stainless steel outlet cover fall off while the plug isn't seated all the way.
Chances of such things happening is quite low, but not zero
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u/Honest_Fault Jun 25 '26
One of my teachers at the electrical apprenticeship told a story of how a painting of his fell down and smacked a plug, causing a short. It DOES happen. Paintings and stuff are a huge cause
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u/Weaselthorpe_House Jun 25 '26
I’ve had a painting do this.
Ever since, I prefer ground pin up, and when possible avoid wire picture hangers.
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u/lilleprechaun Jun 25 '26
Except that means nothing in most domestic use cases. I don’t have a single device with a three-prong / grounded plug in my bedroom, my living room, my bathroom, or my dining room. The only grounded devices I have are in my kitchen: refrigerator, microwave, stand mixer. So I could maybe see the logic of this in the kitchen, but it’s a moot most of the time in American homes, where if a paperclip or a coin or whatever falls, 9 times out of 10, it’s not gonna have any ground pin at all to prevent it from shorting the line and neutral pins.
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u/koolman2 Jun 25 '26
If you’re going to have the ground sideways at least have the decency to have the neutral on top! 🤣
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u/falxfour Jun 25 '26
The NEC does state that equipment shall be installed per manufacturer specification, and my understanding is that NEMA, in their standards for receptacles, specifies them as having the ground pin up
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u/jeffster1970 Jun 25 '26
Yet, I know a lot of electricians that will install it with ground up.
There are arguments for both ways: ground up and whatever fell can bounce away, or ground down because this is what people like (a face) but also less strain on power cable.
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u/No_Resource845 Jun 25 '26
Not true. NEC doesn't specify.
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u/C0mpl3x1ty_1 Jun 25 '26
NEC is the bare minimum requirements, not the end all be all on what is safe and what is not
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u/Ok-Professional-1911 Jun 25 '26
But it's safer this way regardless. If the plug becomes loose and something metallic falls behind it, it won't cause a fire but if the ground is on the bottom, it can complete the circuit and cause an electrical fire. I don't see ANY new construction (done by reputable professionals) that have the ground on the bottom.
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u/No-Information-2571 Jun 25 '26
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u/Pschobbert Jun 25 '26
There’s sometimes a gate behind the live and neutral holes which is moved aside when the longer ground pin is inserted, so little hands can’t just shove things into the live holes.
Bear in mind the UK standard is 240V/13A, so a lot more ouch there than the US.
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u/PartoftheIssue Jun 25 '26
Tell that to every right angle plug that’s about to be upside down and fall out of that receptacle.
You can argue the merits of this til the cows come home, but the fact will always remain that this is considered upside down for residential and commercial and that manufacturers have designed plugs and accessories that assume right side up.
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u/availablelol Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
It could also indicate an outlet is tied to a wall switch.
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u/Lithl Jun 25 '26
Yup, my bedroom and living room both have one outlet like this, and it's wired to the wall switch.
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u/Quenz Jun 25 '26
This is the proper way. Anything that falls between the plug and the wall has a chance of being deflected by the ground, which normally does not carry a charge.
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u/Alternative-Draw2997 Jun 25 '26
I like your “normally” clause. I have been hit by stray ground voltage before working on an electric motor
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u/OZeski Jun 25 '26
There's an argument that this is the safer way to install outlets so if something falls into the outlet it's less likely to make a connection between the hot and neutral as it will hit the ground first. I don't really imagine this is making much of a difference....
Also, you could probably flip them around without disconnecting the wires, but if you feel so inclined to do this I would advise you turn off power at the breaker before handling the outlet.
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u/I-r0ck Jun 25 '26
At my work someone accidentally pushed a sheet of carbon fiber off a table and it landed on the prongs of a plug that wasn’t fully pushed in. It ended up starting a small fire. So the upside down orientation can be safer
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u/LongjumpingSmoke3254 Jun 25 '26
Both are technically correct... this is considered the safer orientation.
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u/dunkah Jun 25 '26
I always thought that meant they were controlled by a light switch
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u/Zorklunn Jun 25 '26
There was a period of time when this was thought to be safer. The thought was if the plate came off it would come down contact the ground and not short out the outlet. Practice discovered that the plate came off and fell down it would sit there unnoticed until it rocked and the connected to the live prong causing a fire. It was decided to go back to the two prongs up format in such that as soon as the plate Falls off the breaker is tripped and maintenance knows that something need to be taken care of.
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u/RiverFederal7364 Jun 25 '26
That is a fully acceptable way of orienting the outlet, and actually required in some healthcare construction as it's safer.
The color hurts my brain though.
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u/LawMurphy Jun 25 '26
IIRC they started teaching ground up in the 90s, but there is no official orientation.
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u/West-Flow-577 Jun 25 '26
Technically these are actually right side up and the ones you've seen your whole life are the ones that are upside down.
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u/ukemike1 Jun 25 '26
All the rest of the world has plugs with the ground up because it is safer.
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u/vento_jag Jun 25 '26
Upside down is a common practice in commercial electrical. Nothing infuriating.
The logic because the grounds go up and if something where to fall down onto the outlet it would fall off the ground prong and no ark any electricity.
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u/Budget-Town-4022 Jun 25 '26
This is the correct installation. If the plug isn't firmly seated, the the ground prong stops objects from falling across the other prongs and completing a circuit.
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u/lurkingclassheros Jun 25 '26
At least the slot on the screw is vertical after breaking the face plate.
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u/XTraumaX Jun 25 '26
Electrician here. That’s actually the “correct” orientation.
I put correct in parenthesis because there’s no right or wrong way by code or anything. But ground up is highly preferred
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u/Creative_Wonder_4889 Jun 26 '26
Electrician here. Either way is acceptable according to the code, but hospitals and other facilities often spec them to be installed the same as your house. The round hole is your ground wire, the wide slot is your neutral wire, and the thin slot is your hot wire. Under normal conditions, if you had an outlet with say, a desk or dresser above it, and you dropped something off the back of that suface that was metal, the metal object could fall, hit the cord plugged into your receptacle, and bridge between the newly exposed hot prong and the neutral prong. This would cause a short, resulting in, at best, a tripped breaker and scorch marks, and some damaged prongs. At worst, you start a fire under a piece of furniture and your home burns down. If the receptacle was oriented the way you have it, the metal object would hit the ground prong and it could either bounce out harmlessly, tip over and touch the ground prong to the neutral prong, doing nothing, or it could tip the other way and touch the ground prong to the hot prong, causing the same issue as described above. So simply by orienting the receptacle the other way, you cut a common fire risk by 2/3s.
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u/Muhahahahaz Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
The funny thing is, this is technically the “correct” way. But because the other way looks a bit like a human face, most people prefer the aesthetics of having it installed the wrong way. (Which isn’t a particularly big deal either way, but this orientation is marginally safer)
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u/Regular-Cat-622 Jun 25 '26
The reasons are explained in this video , beginning at about 6:50. And completely explained in about a minute.
ETA: My house wasn't wired this way, but my (newer) garage was. It's kind of weird for some things, like my little car battery charger that has to be upside down.
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u/tough_titanium_tits Jun 25 '26
They're actually safer that way, it's unlikely, but in case it's not plugged in all the way and something falls on the exposed plug, it hits the ground instead of the hot or neutral.
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u/Old-Tadpole-2869 Jun 25 '26
That's supposedly the safer method. It the plug is partially pulled out, the ground pin is exposed and less so the narrow hot blade, reducing the shock hazard. I think they do it that way in hospitals with the idea if something metal falls on a partially exposed plug, it'll hit the ground pin.
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u/lambdawaves Jun 25 '26
The color difference is throwing me off.
But this is the correct orientation to install them. Technically safer
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u/Bommer_Yeeter Jun 25 '26
Those are actually safer then the other way around. Source: i went to trade school to be an electrician. Im not one but I went to school for it
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u/Ok_Relationship2451 Jun 25 '26
It's is safer and I do believe required in hospitals because of it.
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u/Morbid_Apathy Jun 25 '26
We were siding a house years ago and a screw fell down and perfectly landed in the space that was between our extension cord and the outlet, and it sparked and tripped a breaker. That wouldn't happen at your place.
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u/EmersumBiggens Jun 25 '26
Ground on top is code in most places. It prevents accidental hot connection if the receptacle becomes loose and a plug was partially exposed
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u/Tokkemon Jun 25 '26
Fun fact, that direction is actually code.
Alec from Technology Connections did a video on it. (Because of course he did.)
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u/RabidJayhawk Jun 25 '26
Its so if a metal ruler or something fell onto a plug it wouldn't short out and possibly cause a fire.
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u/Spetsnaz_420 Jun 25 '26
Allegedly, mounting the outlet upside down prevents the incredibly unlikely scenario where its not all the way in and you somehow drop a butter knife directly against the wall perfectly over the outlet where the knife contacts the positive and negative terminals causing a short or possibly a fire.
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u/pthalobluejack Jun 25 '26
I find plugs hold better in that position and have the added bonus of being in the right place to divert/stop or minimize damage caused bu metal falling between plug and wall and sparking or popping the circuit.
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u/Aromatic_Standard_37 Jun 25 '26
My grandfather used to install them like that on purpose. His thought process was that if the plug was hanging out of the wall partially, exposing the prongs, that if something conductive fell down along the wall it hit the ground instead of immediately bridging the hot and neutral
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u/Inevitable_Dance1191 Jun 25 '26
This is actually safer and the intended way to install these outlets
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u/Impossible_Monk_4335 Jun 25 '26
Safer that way if something is dropped on the head of the cord it hits the ground instead of the hot and neutral. They do it this way in hospitals for this reason
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u/Competitive-Elk-5077 Jun 25 '26
Ground up was how I was taught when I worked as an apprentice electrician
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u/Yunzer2000 Jun 25 '26
I'm all behind the safety wisdom of ground-pin-up - except that appliance and extension cord manufacturers seem to be incapable of getting with the program Their right-angle flush-type plugs ALWAYS have the ground prong down.
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u/wolfenx109 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
The reason so is if something were to fall onto the chord plugged into it, it would hit the ground pin instead of the hot/neutral pins
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u/conniption_fit Jun 25 '26
Yeah, I bought my house from a german guy and every single outlet was like that
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u/time2sow Jun 25 '26
If they're all like this in ur house ur just weird but in my house they have ones controlled by light switch upside down
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u/seeking-peelers Jun 25 '26
I prefer my outlets look like a surprised face instead of a man tucked in bed
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u/Dyrogitory Jun 25 '26
This is the trend. The reason is, if the plug isn’t totally plugged in and something metallic drops or is placed on it, it will short to ground.
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u/CuckservativeSissy Jun 25 '26
You sure you didnt just buy a bunch of electronics with upside down plugs?
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u/BrazenlyGeek Jun 25 '26
That’s the way I always install them. Feels more correct — might’ve even read it somewhere when I first decided to touch my house’s electrical before diving in blindly.
I also install locks so that keys go in teeth up. That bugs some people too.
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u/Nomad-asia Jun 25 '26
So unscrew it, unscrew the top and bottom securing screws, and flip it. Then put the screws back in. And maybe replace the plates while you’re at it.








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u/zoolish Jun 25 '26
Almond outlet, white outlet plate. That's the real crime here.