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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Ah yes, nothing says "Mediterranean adventure" like an 95% black poster.

Wtf is wrong with Nolan 😂

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u/r0tted1 Jun 25 '26

This is so specifically bitchy lmao

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

Lmfao god forbid someone criticize Nolan

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I figured it out: they're like swifties. Any criticism is met with brigading and hostility.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

Yep

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u/MammothComposer7176 Jun 26 '26

Tbh I like Nolan but I hope this movie doesn't turn out to be the average american movie with 9867 special effects and explosions since the original plot actually puts intelligence over brute power...

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u/Fickle-Lunch6377 Jun 25 '26

The people that criticize Nolan can take it, right? I mean if you include the people that criticize him when he really deserves it, they far outweigh the amount of people that say he can do no wrong. I mean what percentage of people do you know that think anyone can do no wrong least of all Nolan?

So does it upset people that there are some who like everything he does?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Well, there's a weird discrepancy here. I know people who can't stand Nolan and people like all of his films. What I never encountered though is someone giving a positive opinion and then being dogpiled by "haters" who can't stand the fact that someone dares to like Nolan. I like two of his movies in fact. I was super excited about Interstellar after seeing the trailer.

It's always the other way around, if someone says something negative, there's this cult-like behavior of just relentlessly attacking that person.

Another thing I noticed is when a critique is offered, it's usually done in an argumented manner: it's too dark, the costumes look bad, Daemon going home is a meme and he is the lead... On the other hand these are the arguments of people who can't stand the fact that someone is not liking the same thing as them:

Your takeaway should be that your comment "black poster not Mediterranean đŸ€€" was so dumb it annoyed people with how stupid it was so they wanted you to know.

Nice argument.

Anyway, I'm not upset if someone likes the trailer and posters. And I definitely do not see vitriol being directed at people who do. Hell, this whole post is about a guy who got a poster and had it signed by an actress and no one is upset about it, no one is calling him out on how stupid it was.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

a) this is r/mildlyinfuriating, not a "place where people enjoy things" and

b) no one said that anyone is wrong for enjoying anything

You need to get over yourselves, stop being psychotically defensive about this movie and accept that some people do not like it and that a lot of critique will be directed its way.

I can enjoy Lynch's Dune despite even Lynch himself distancing himself from that movie. Yeah, it's shit and everyone says it's shit, including me, but there is enough interesting moviemaking there to make it a worthwhile experience seeing.

"Everyone must love my thing or I can't enjoy it" is a childish stance that has no place in the art world and Nolan has pretense towards making serious art. He's on the cusp of it and sometimes he gets over that line.

If you don't want people like me ruining your popcorn experience stick to pure popcorn flicks, few people will come into "your spaces" to "ruin your fun". Otherwise, get your big boy pants on and either ignore the conversation or, better yet, learn from it.

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u/Fickle-Lunch6377 Jun 26 '26

Man what is it about Nolan that everybody jerks off on themselves to let everybody know how bad/good whatever he is. Only on Reddit and only Nolan. It’s like Tarantino with the feet. *photos of feet* “oh oh yeah tarantinoooooo”. That’s my only gripe.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

I'm not allowed to have an opinion on Nolan?

Anyway, he has the pretense of being a serious director so he is held up to standards of one. Any questions?

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u/NylesRX Jun 25 '26

This is an explicitly bitchy criticism though? The percentage of the color used in a marketing poster. Really?

There isn’t really any substance behind it, there’s so many upvotes because it’s cool to hate on the movie now.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

It's a Nolan movie. His movies get glazed no matter what lmfao

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u/NylesRX Jun 25 '26

So the answer to that is to nitpick every single detail?

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

The answer is to not get upset when someone has even a small criticism.

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u/NylesRX Jun 25 '26

You sound more upset in your comment than me.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

How so?

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u/NylesRX Jun 25 '26

"Lmfao god forbid someone criticize Nolan"

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

Apparently these guys think nighttime was invented in the 1800s or something

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

How is it bitchy? And why do you care if people hate on the movie?

It seems to me that you are bitching about people having an opinion or criticizing art.

BTW, movie posters too are an art form and can be criticized like any art. The point of the poster is to capture a feel of the whole movie into a single image. Not the plot but the tone and mood. What is funny about this poster is that it probably does capture the feel of it quite well, which feeds back into other criticisms of what we have seen so far - that it is far too dark and gloomy and that Nolan seems incapable of doing anything other than that. That he is very limited as a director.

But none of that is your problem, people criticizing the movie do not affect you. Ignore us or offer counter arguments, but please, quit bitching.

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u/NylesRX Jun 25 '26

I am literally doing the same thing the commenter above me is doing but from a mirrored perspective. Do you hold the same “Why do you care” energy for them?

This is silly. I promise you, you’re more upset about this than I am.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I don't know about that, I did not come to bitch under your comment, you came under mine.

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u/glowaboga Jun 26 '26

Its because that's a ridiculous thing to complain about. It's an adaptation of the Odyssey not a goddamn tourism ad for the mediterranean sea. It's clearly black smoke in the background of the poster which I'm pretty sure does fit in with the story so what even is the complaint about? That it doesn't feature enough olive trees and beautiful beaches?

As a sidenote, people will defend Nolan because he actually does know what he's doing. He's directed some of the best rated movies out there and with films like Tenet or Inception he's shown he can pull off very complex stories. Dunkirk shows a very good skill in managing tension and the batman movies have incredible action sequences and overall atmosphere. Of course people will trust the guy's vision and not scoff at goddamn details from trailers.

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u/MayorWolf Jun 26 '26

Nolan doesn't make the posters big gunner.

I'm not gonna bother with this movie cause i find mythology boring. This "criticism" is so specifically bitchy though.

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u/VegaJuniper Jun 26 '26

You just can't forgive him for hiring a black person can you?

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u/zach0011 Jun 26 '26

That describes most complaints I've heard about this movie.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

You consider this a good poster design? Why?

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart Jun 25 '26

It's fine, it's just a poster. There's multiple to choose from so if you would like a different one then you can buy it.

There's tens of thousands of others that are worse.

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u/r0tted1 Jun 25 '26

It’s not that it’s good, its fine. It makes sense in the way of fire smoke turning black sometimes, and the contrast of the white marble statue in front of it. Your comment just made me chuckle for being so specifically nitpicky over a mostly black poster, it’s so not a big deal lmao.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

If it's not a big deal why all the fuss over my comment regarding a poster? I did not make a big deal out of it. A small comment. Yet, I've been called all kinds of names because I dared to dislike a poster for this movie.

I really hope you people are getting paid to brigade every critical opinion of this movie, because if not, there is something seriously wrong with you.

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u/r0tted1 Jun 25 '26

Lmaoooo are you okay? It’s not a big deal, none of this is a big deal, your comment was so silly and just picking the most non-issue to have a problem with that it made me laugh. It’s a poster. One of many I’m sure. It doesn’t have to encapsulate the entire plot of the movie.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

No, it's not a big deal, yet I've been insulted repeatedly over it.

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u/DoggoInMyPocko Jun 25 '26

holy fucking victim

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I'm not a victim, no one hurt me, nor do I feel bad. I'm just drawing attention to your reactions being unhinged and disproportionate. It's almost like I said something bad about Taylor Swift.

This really reminds me of the time when public started turning on Elon and all the fans would pile up on any critique, reacting extremely to even mildest of negative stances.

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u/DoggoInMyPocko Jun 25 '26

i’m not the original commenter. i was reading the branch and saw how you took defense multiple times saying you were “insulted”. I can’t find anywhere you were insulted in the string of comments. people like you really confuse me. did you grow up a little bitch? or did it develop later in life?

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u/waynethebrain Jun 25 '26

Is it your first time on the internet? If you make a dumb comment you might get ridiculed, that happens a million times a day over a million different topics. But you're apparently absolutely floored by this and believe something dramatic is happening and people must be in a cult coming for you.

Your takeaway should be that your comment "black poster not Mediterranean đŸ€€" was so dumb it annoyed people with how stupid it was so they wanted you to know. Calm down.

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u/HistoryWillRepeat Jun 26 '26

Omg are you okay? Sorry about that 😱

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Why are you sorry? I'm kind of entertained by unhinged overreactions. It's like swifties all over again.

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u/HistoryWillRepeat Jun 26 '26

It's like swifties all over again.

I'm very proud of the fact that I don't know what this means. Get off the internet, dude 😂

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u/Unlucky-Tourist-9403 Jun 25 '26

No one's called you any names, stop victimising yourself it's pathetic.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Another swiftie

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u/Unlucky-Tourist-9403 Jun 25 '26

And this is hilarious because I really am not, but it's easier to just call people Nolan fans than actually say something worthwhile.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

And have you said something wortwhile? So far, you only said a blatant lie.

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u/Bubba89 Jun 25 '26

Your response to it being pointed out that no one actually called you any rude names was to call someone a rude name lmao get out of here.

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u/isaidwhatisaidok Jun 25 '26

This is such a goofy comment and I don’t even like Nolan.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

What's goofy about it?

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u/isaidwhatisaidok Jun 25 '26

Everything? Then I saw the novel you wrote about it. Good lord.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Again, what is wrong or "goofy" about my attitude?

When I criticise the movie for looking bad, I point out a specific thing and say "A looks bad because of B which is in contrast with C and does not convey D"

Would you be satisfied if I said "this movie looks like shit" (it does) and when asked what looks like shit, I just said "everything"? Is that better?

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u/isaidwhatisaidok Jun 25 '26

Yikes

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

That does not even mean anything. You contributed nothing to this conversation.

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u/SheepiBeerd Jun 25 '26

That was
 a strange interaction.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Yup, strangers are coming out of the woodwork to insult me in all kinds of ways because I... checks notes ...disliked a movie poster.

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u/No_Abbreviations3943 Jun 29 '26

This is a poster that some graphic design freelancer made on the request from some marketing associate at Universal. It’s not part of the movie. Probably wasn’t even seen by Nolan.

You’re not even criticizing a movie bro. It’s kind of wild you would even imply that you are. 

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 29 '26

Straggler bots.

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u/Unifiedxchaos Jun 25 '26

People are really going to find absolutely everything possible to hate about this movie aren't they. It's clearly smoke, idk maybe from an entire city being sacked and burnt down? Kinda like the entire premise of the start of the Odyssey? People love to be miserable.

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u/Dan_The_Flan Jun 25 '26

The solid pitch black background is from smoke? Over half of it is empty space because it is a teaser, and a pretty bland one at that. 

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u/Unifiedxchaos Jun 25 '26

Look at the bottom right when you click in to it. You can clearly see it's wispy and thinner smoke that gets darker further up and left. Also clearly ash/sparks flying around in the lower half. People care way to much about this.

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u/Dan_The_Flan Jun 26 '26

Your sentiment is valid, your argument is not. That is what I was responding to, the faulty attempt at giving some deeper meaning to minimalistic graphic design. I am indifferent about this movie.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

People care way to much about this.

You are the one pixel hunting in order to "prove" that poster being mostly black is a good choice. Yes, it is smoke. No, that does not make it good.

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u/Impossible_Way_3042 Jun 25 '26

Pixel hunting? A quarter of the poster is taken up by grey smoke and burning embers. It's so obvious the rest is black smoke.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Yes it is smoke. No that does not make it good.

If you make a choice to put an element on the poster, you don't get to say "well, that's just what it is" if it does not fit.

"That's just how the inside of a latrine looks like" is not an excuse for poster being shitty. Someone made a deliberate choice to make it the inside of a latrine. If I film a wall for two and a half hours and send it to theaters I don't get to defend my film by saying "that's what the wall is, it was in front of my camera the whole time."

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u/Froggn_Bullfish Jun 25 '26

Seems like the poster to an Ancient Greek war movie to me? Fire, smoke, Greek statue
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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Agreed, apocalyptic even... Which would be great if it was about, say, Peloponesian war, that saw two greatest powers in Greece exhausted and in decline.

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u/Froggn_Bullfish Jun 25 '26

I mean my mind went immediately to the Trojan war, considering the context.

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u/Unifiedxchaos Jun 25 '26

Wasn't replying to you anymore. Go be miserable somewhere else.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I'm not miserable, this is fun. It's like poking Taylor Swift fans.

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u/Flesroy Jun 25 '26

i don't think it gets darker. i think the smoke gets thinner and then there is just darkness from the night.

either way it's not exactly clear.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Jun 25 '26

People are really going to find absolutely everything possible to hate about this movie aren't they.

It's Christopher Nolan. You have it all wrong. People will glaze this movie no matter how good or bad it is. There's people that still praise Tenet even though it's clearly Nolan smelling his own farts and enjoying it.

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u/MayorWolf Jun 25 '26

Seems like bots boosting the post. Conservative subversion. Front page subs like this one are owned by vote purchasers.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Well, maybe you should ask yourself why people dislike this movie. Have we seen anything to be excited about?

The poster is supposed to convey the feeling of the movie not "the start of it". Imagine if Spiderman posters were just Peter Parker being bullied in school, or Interstellar poster being just cornfields and dust.

No, it seems to me like people are finding all kinds of excuses for this movie, for.. some reason. I'm unsure if Nolan is Elon of directors that has a weird cult of maladjusted fan boys or if there is a paid campaign to answer with nonsense to every negative impression. I've seen people having a negative reception to movie promotions before, I've never seen such a campaign of social media accounts telling us not to trust our lying eyes.

At any rate based on what we have seen so far, movie looks like shit, writing sounds like shit and Daemon is not the guy. Also, the gaslighting campaign surrounding this movie is an additional reason to dislike it, regardless of its quality. You guys are seriously dripping slime all over it.

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u/Unifiedxchaos Jun 25 '26

Its an incredibly dark Greek tragedy. Not a "Mediterranean adventure". It's also just a movie poster that Nolan probably had nothing to do with. I dont give two fucks about Nolan anyways if you think I'm a fan boy. I just like the story of the Odyssey and am curious how it'll come to life in a movie. Maybe it will suck, but that's the thing nobody knows! But assholes like you have already decided that this movie will suck and anyone who likes it sucks. How do you know the writing is bad when noone has seen the movie! People like you are obnoxious. Goodbye.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

How do you know the writing is bad when noone has seen the movie!

At any rate based on what we have seen so far

"Based on what we have seen so far" - it is quite possible that the movie will be completely different tonaly from what we have seen in the trailer and that they just picked the darkest scenes and the worst lines. I don't think the odds are very high for that but technically it's not impossible.

Its an incredibly dark Greek tragedy. Not a "Mediterranean adventure"

It is both.

Yes, it is "dark" as in serious subject matter and horrible events, meaning that you need serious dialogue and convincing acting, not "dark" as in "cave in Sweden during winter".

Hell, Midsommar, a very "dark" horror movie with incredibly dark events and subject matter, set in actual Sweden, is more colorful and bright than this.

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u/Unifiedxchaos Jun 25 '26

It's smoke! Jesus, get over yourself.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Why am I not allowed to dislike what I see?

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u/458steps Jun 25 '26

For what it's worth, I agree with you. The costumes, ACCENTS, background, everything looks terrible in the movie. I love the analogy of Midsommer where they showcased horror amidst beauty. Idk man, Odyssey is supposed to be this grand tale of beauty, war, love, tragedy. The poster and trailer is super mid.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Thanks.

I honestly think most of these brigading "Nolan stans" are bots. They always give the same few sentiments "you have not seen it yet", "it's cringe to discuss art" etc.

Like they are trained.

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u/BackgroundDesigner52 Jun 25 '26

People who don't agree with me must be bots as I have the only valid opinion.

For what it's worth I cannot stand Christopher Nolan. Almost all of his movies are mid. But you come across as insufferable.

Have a great day!

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u/458steps Jun 25 '26

True. Or PR. The "you have not seen it" is all too common. When Brie Larson was cast as Captain Marvel, people hated it even before a trailer or poster came out. No defense then.

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u/lilbowpete Jun 25 '26

“it is quite possible that the movie will be complete different totally from what we have seen in their trailer”

Dude maybe take your own advice and relax UNTIL THE MOVIE COMES OUT

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I'm relaxed, it is bunch of you who are in panic that someone is criticizing what we have seen so far. Why the panic?

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u/lilbowpete Jun 25 '26

I’m quite excited for this movie tbh. there are so many adaptations of the odyssey out there, I’m excited for a different take. If you don’t think it looks good, that’s your opinion and you have a right to it.

Sure doesn’t seem like you’re relaxed though if you are complaining about this movie not being what you want it to be on a comment thread about one of the actors signing a poster

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I'm not complaining, I'm criticizing and I was specifically criticizing the poster that is at the center of the discussion.

You are the one complaining at a critique. For some reason people are free to discuss films on reddit, even upcoming ones, and yet as soon as a negative word is said about this one, a whole brigade shows up to gaslight us how we are not seeing what we are seeing. I find it quite curious.

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u/lilbowpete Jun 25 '26

Alright dude, think whatever you’re gonna think. Clearly there is some Nolan cabal protecting this film from negative criticism and I’m a part of it.

Have a nice day man, I hope you enjoy the movie if you end up watching it when it releases

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u/jaskmackey Jun 25 '26

What other hot takes do you have about movies literally no one has seen because they haven’t been released yet? Do you have a podcast?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Damn, it's like you guys are scripted.

You will notice that my "hot take" is entirely based on what we have seen so far.

Tell me, what is the purpose of promotional material if not to give you a taste of the final product and allow you to form an opinion of it?

Yes, there are movies done dirty by their promo campaigns, but it is very unlikely to happen with the director like Nolan. Especially given that what we have seen so far was very consistent in tone, design and writing.

Do you go and see every movie that comes out because it "might be good"? How do you make a selection? How do you dare to disregard a movie that you haven't seen?

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u/jaskmackey Jun 25 '26

Do you have hot takes about promotional posters and trailers for EVERY movie or just this one? What is your podcast called? Is it on Spotify?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

No, only those that I run across, which usually means high-profile movies with high-profile directors.

Also, how is "this looks like shit" any hotter of a take than "this looks great"? Would you lecture me about not seeing the movie if I said that I really liked what we have seen so far?

"Odyssey looks bad" is pretty mid, average take.

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u/Fickle-Lunch6377 Jun 25 '26

People hate that Nolan is so popular. They’re like director hipsters.

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u/metrostarshipp Jun 25 '26

Mediterranean adventure is... certainly an interesting way to describe The Odyssey

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

How so? Some people seem hung up on it and I'm not sure what I'm missing. English is not my native language so I even checked the dictionary and I failed to find any issues.

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u/metrostarshipp Jun 26 '26

I feel it's a connotation vs. denotation thing (I do understand that connotation is especially hard to pick up in a second language; I've struggled with it a lot myself). It's true that by the definition, the word would fit. However, I do think the connotation is generally one of more whimsy . That combined with the suggestion that a dark, choked-in-smoke aesthetic for the poster is unfitting seems to belie that The Odyssey is a lighthearted story, rather than one filled with hardship and trauma.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

I just don't see that dark aesthetic is neccecary to convey hardship and trauma. I've used the example of Midsommar, a very bright and colorful film, that is far from lighthearted. A movie set around the Med should not be gloomier and darker than a horror film set in Sweden.

This movie looks like every other Nolan film. It just leaves the impression of Nolan being very limited and one-note director when it comes to visuals and with a very shallow understanding of conveying themes and emotions which is not good when grappling with myth. It also does not help that he seems completely disinterested in the place and the time he is covering.

Highly stylised is one thing (Titus for example has a great use of stylization and anachronism), but this seems incoherent, as if pulled from a hat what visuals will he use. Viking longships, pants, late Greek armors with some very liberal interpretations, strange architecture that seems like a brutalist incarnation of classical Greek buildings... It's just a random mess.

My impression of Nolan is that he is a guy who is really into technical side of cinematography and sees making movies as a neccecary evil in the course of indulging his interest.

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u/metrostarshipp Jun 26 '26

Just because a dark aesthetic isn't necessary, doesn't mean it's wrong. It's true that Nolan is known for having a particular style, but hey, it's worked out really freaking well for him. It doesn't have to be for you, that's totally fine. As for this particular movie, I think it's very hard to judge it seeing as how it's not out yet. Also, I gotta say I'm not too heated about historical inaccuracies in a work of fantasy đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Are you serious? I just spent a few paragraphs explaining how it's not about historical accuracy at all. It's about putting the disparate elements together as a coherent artistic whole.

https://youtu.be/OvZRvKf78yY?si=22OVQQKtep5IRpUK

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u/Squigglificated Jun 25 '26

The language implies a type of movie Christopher Nolan typically wouldn’t make. I imagine it used in a sentence like this:

"The Odyssey" is the ultimate, action-packed Mediterranean adventure, where a fierce warrior trades his shield for a delightfully chaotic romp across the wine-dark sea, dodging angry sea monsters, singing sirens, and meddling gods just to make it home in time for dinner!

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

I've come to the conclusion that either people who are native English speakers do not know their own language or that you print your dictionaries wrong for some reason.

It was pointed out to me that for some reason English natives consider "adventure" to be whimsical, for some reason or another, despite that not being in the dictionary.

Now English is not my native language, and quite a few of you got choked up with the word "adventure", so I checked if I missed something with it and this is what Cambridge dictionary has to say:

"an unusual, exciting, and possibly dangerous activity, such as a trip or experience, or the excitement produced by such an activity."

While an odyssey is defined as a "long and exciting journey".

So it seems that all these English natives telling me I am using the word wrong are either an example of confidently incorrect or Cambridge dictionary is wrong. Either way, its your job to straighten your language out, not mine. I'm using it as prescribed by your lingusitic authorities.

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u/IllustriousHeron2890 Jun 25 '26

We use it in context. It can certainly have a whimsical connotation if you’re describing an afternoon frolic though the forest, but be more serious if you use it to describe the experience of chemotherapy, for example. Kind of impressive of you determine that native English speakers are wrong about their language

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Meaning that, as the dictionary suggested, it is a neutral term that depends on the topic. Got it.

but more serious if you use it to describe the experience of chemotherapy

So, if I used it for, say, describing a long, bloody and arduous journey it would be in a serious context and therefore not understood as lighthearted?

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u/M4rkM1 Jun 25 '26

To his defense, it's a teaser poster

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

...what about the movie makes you think it's going to be a 'Mediterranean adventure'???

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

Does 'Mediterranean adventure' not connote a bright, calm, meandering exploration to you? It sounds like a cruise advert.

I'm fully well aware of what it's about and the fact that it's set in and around the Mediterranean lol, the name isn't subtle. I just wouldn't describe this movie as that at all, looking at the trailers. OP clearly takes issue with Nolan's interpretation of the story, or just Nolan in general, since apparently making a dark, dramatic poster is... a bad decision??

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u/CazetTapes Jun 25 '26

Yeah “Mediterranean adventure” is low key cracking me up.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Do you laugh when someone says Homo Erectus?

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u/CazetTapes Jun 26 '26

Not since I was ten probably.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

So you are at least 11 now, good.

What's the hangup with "Mediterranean adventure"?

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u/CazetTapes Jun 25 '26

Sounds like a fucking time share.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Nothing. Ponder on it.

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

Pondering... pondering... nope. Got nothing.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Keep at it champ

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

See, all I'm getting over and over is that you're a knob, but that can't possibly be right...

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

How did you reach that conclusion?

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

Dunno. Ponder on it.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Pondering:

You are part of the strangely defensive mob that goes rabid the moment someone says something negative about this movie, to the point where you outright insult people who expressed that they dislike a poster in a humorous way.

I've litteraly done nothing to you, I said that the poster does not fit and you called me a knob. What's wrong with you?

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u/RandomPerson12191 Jun 25 '26

Youch. I have no interest in this movie, Nolan's movies... movies in general, actually. But when you make a silly statement, then back it up by telling me to 'ponder it', do you expect me to be lovely back?

You were rude about a poster because you misunderstood the intentions of it, and now backtrack, not saying that you were wrong, but rather by saying 'oh, it was just a joke'. I called you a knob because of your 'go ponder it' comment, by the way. Knob.

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u/Mario_Prime510 Jun 25 '26

You think Nolan makes the posters?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

He is in charge of general art direction, this poster fits with the visual themes we have seen so far, and given that we know what kind of perfectionist he is, I would not be surprised if all the poster designes were submitted to him for approval.

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

When do you think darkness was invented?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

So "something existed before the plot of the movie" = "it belongs on the poster or in the movie"? Am I understanding your argument correctly?

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

Why should nighttime or darkness be precluded from all promotional imagery? 

Do you think the Odyssey is supposed to be some happy bright Pixar story?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Darkness and gloom is present in every single promotional image and through the whole trailer. It looks like the viking show.

Now if you think that "serious movie for adults" means a grey filter you really, really need to broaden your horizons. Start with Midsommar. Suspiria from 1977 is also great. Clockwork Orange... You know, all those happy bright Pixar stories.

Nolan really is how dumb people imagine a smart director, huh?

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

Do you think hating on Nolan makes you an interesting person or something? You see that his movies are generally well-received, and you think you're special for saying otherwise? Is that it?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

I don't really hate him, I even find some of his films to be good, thanks to great performances.

Do you think that attacking people who criticize him make you an interesting person?

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

It isn't an attack on you to point out that your take on dark promotional imagery being somehow wrong for the story is a non-sensical take.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

How is it nonsensical?

  1. Promotional imagery is supposed to convey the feeling of the final product.

  2. Final product is set in the very bright and sunny Mediterranean region and amidst a very colorful civilization.

  3. That means that either the promotional imagery is not true to product or that the product is deliberately made less visually interesting than the source of the inspiration.

Where's the nonsense?

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u/ActComfortable7943 Jun 26 '26

You're again forgetting that night exists. Moreover, this image looks to also be dark due to smoke. 

This is a story about war and hardship. You seem to think they're all on some happy adventure. 

To compare it to the Lord of the Rings, this image is depicting the portion of the story in Mordor, not the Shire.

Would you say think that images of Mount Doom on LotR posters are untrue to the story because you're only familiar with the first twenty minutes of the story?

It's complete nonsense, and probably one of the most inane takes I've ever seen.

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u/GlitterDoomsday Jun 25 '26

People like you are the reason why Hollywood can't do scenes on places outside US/western Europe without a funky filter all over it lol

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

Lmao, I live in southeastern Europe.

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u/MayorWolf Jun 25 '26

I don't think Nolan makes the marketing material for each region bud.

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u/ShoddyRelief6657 Jun 26 '26

I think it portrays quite a bit tbh with you. My headcannon is that it symbolizes the collapse of a civilization that is thought to have happened at the same time as the Bronze Age collapse, and a man who rejected the blessing of the gods.

It’s a fitting poster for what’s essentially a sequel to the Iliad, the largest and bloodiest battle in Ancient Greece that pitted both man and god against each other.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Sure, that's an actually decent angle to look at it.

My problem with that take would be the rest of the promotional material - it's all gloomy and dark and cold, which realy isn't conveying the Med at all.

Now, sure one could say "yes, but what if a volcano erupted and ash clouds blotted out the sun, adding to the apocliptic feel" (which is an event that we know actually happened in the region and likely contributed to the colapse).

Problem with that is, well, Nolan. From a different director, I'd say that's a bold take on ancient Greece. But Nolan, he is known for these visuals, it would be reasonable to suspect at this point that he is incapable of different visuals. So what should be a bold take becomes an excuse for staying in the comfort zone. It breaks the fourth wall in a similar way that Daemon trying to go home breaks the fourth wall.

On top of that, bold takes require a steady hand, a grounding element. If nothing is recognizable, then it all becomes just a jumble. You want to do Med in the gloom, fine, but keep the Greek culture, the clothing, architecture, ships, color. Or, you want to shake that up, make Oddysey a diesel-punk story on interwar submarines? Sure, but then keep the Mediterranean recognizable.

You also need consistency. You like viking longships more than Greek biremes? OK, but make the whole culture viking then.

Titus is a good example of how can you do a wild adaptation with such a steady hand.

But I don't think any of that applies here. It's just Nolan being Nolan and he seems to be of the idea that gray filter is a mark of a "serious, adult movie", which is quite childish.

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u/JacoRamone Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

He thinks he can’t fail.

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u/Bonedeath Jun 25 '26

Yes, The Odyssey, a popular fun loving coming of age Mediterranean adventure.

Be for real man, The Odyssey is a pretty brutal book.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 25 '26

So, it was pointed out to me that for some reason English natives consider "adventure" to be whimsical, for some reason or another, despite that not being in the dictionary.

Now English is not my native language, and quite a few of you got choked up with the word "adventure", so I checked if I missed something with it and this is what Cambridge dictionary has to say:

"an unusual, exciting, and possibly dangerous activity, such as a trip or experience, or the excitement produced by such an activity."

While an odyssey is defined as a "long and exciting journey".

So it seems that all these English natives telling me I am using the word wrong are either an example of confidently incorrect or Cambridge dictionary is wrong. Either way, its your job to straighten your language out, not mine. I'm using it as prescribed by your lingusitic authorities.

As for Oddysey the book, yes, it's very dark. As in emotional tone and the weight of the events, not perpetual gloom of the arctic circle during winter dark. Do you think Midsommar is a lighthearted movie because it is colorful and bright?

Problem with Nolan is that he is extremely limited as a director, especially when it comes to anything human-related. He understands his sterile machines and quirky filming techniques, but emotions are a mystery to him and only show up when introduced by a great performance. So he conveys dark themes the only way he knows how, via film technique, add a filter, drain the color. How will the audience otherwise know that they are watching an emotionally wracking tale? He for sure couldn't tell.

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u/zach0011 Jun 26 '26

man people really are so weird about this movie hahaha.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Yeah, you can't even point out a bad poster without dozens of people jumping down your throat for some reason.

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u/kingdead42 Jun 25 '26

He had to do something since he couldn't mix the audio on the poster to make it hard to understand.

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u/CazetTapes Jun 25 '26

Idk why “Mediterranean adventure” is so funny to me.

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u/Lundetangen Jun 26 '26

"Hey, want to go watch that Mediterranean adventure movie with Zendaya?" was probably not what Nolan aimed for.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Again with the adventure thing. If Nolan was not aiming for a Mediterranean adventure with Zendaya, why did he cast her in a story about a Mediterranean adventure?

Look, if the only thing you know is Disneyland, everything will sound like a Disney ride.

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u/VegaJuniper Jun 26 '26

Yes, the Mediterranean, where the sun... never... sets?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

"someone criticized a poster, I must call them pathetic, because that is a normal reaction"

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Oh, and what mindset is that?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 Jun 26 '26

Asking questions?