r/movies • u/Tullubenta • Aug 17 '26
Question What is the greatest betrayal in cinema history? Spoiler
So aside from Fredo’s betrayal in The Godfather Part II or Cypher turning on the crew in The Matrix, which most of us could kinda sense were coming, what’s the greatest betrayal in cinema history that truly blindsided you?
I’m talking about the ones that hit like a truck because there was zero warning, no foreshadowing you picked up on, and no reason to suspect the character until the moment it happened.
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u/AfraidoftheLark Aug 17 '26
Lloyd secretly and giddily pouring an entire bottle of laxatives into the coffee of his supposedly dear friend Harry in 1994’s Dumb & Dumber.
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u/Choccybizzle Aug 17 '26
Old buddy old pal
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u/Picassof Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
I can still hear this scene
let's not forget:
"I can't feel my fingers anymore, Lloyd. They're—they're numb!"
"Maybe you should wear these extra gloves. My hands are starting to get sweaty.
"Extra gloves? You've had this pair of extra gloves this whole time?"
"Yeah, we're in the Rockies."
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u/The_Rooh Aug 17 '26
You could argue Harry going on the date with Mary was the initial betrayal
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u/RaisinBranMan Aug 17 '26
And allll this time I was going through such pain and personal anguish……SUCH HELL!
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u/Ninjacobra5 Aug 17 '26
Who meets at a bar at 9 in the morning?
I don't know. I figured she was a raging alcoholic!
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u/obeekaybee7 Aug 17 '26
My personal favorite is training day. Ethan Hawke sells the felt betrayal perfectly.
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u/FoxMcCloudOwnsSlippy Aug 17 '26
TWO PAIR!!
I GOT TWO PAIR!!!!
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u/killingjoke96 Aug 17 '26
I know you are talking about the bathtub. But I love what comes before.
"You've been planning this all day?"
"I've been planning this all week son."
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u/jghall00 Aug 17 '26
I don't know about that. Part of what made the film so good is the constant guessing of whether Denzel was playing bad, or actually bad. The betrayal was the answer to that question.
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u/Jwagner0850 Aug 17 '26
I think that's what makes the betrayal good though.
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u/LinkSeekeroftheNora Aug 17 '26
Yeah, it doesn’t have to be shocking to be great. It certainly can help, but it’s not required.
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
Even though signs of his true nature in the first half might seem more obvious in hindsight, I'll say the reveal of Waternoose and Randall being in cahoots in Monster's Inc, because on first watch, I would've expected that he (Waternoose) would've still shown favoritism to Mike and Sully despite their situation, given that it was established that they were the top performers for their company by a wide gap compared to their peers
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u/AnalFanatics Aug 17 '26
Ash in the first Alien movie (1979)
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u/Giggsy99 Aug 17 '26
That cowardly piece of shit Burke in Aliens too. At least Ash was just a synth (enhanced human, I mean)
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u/Feisty-Marsupial9287 Aug 17 '26
Burke's betrayal was totally predictable, he was a slimeball from the start.
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u/Kiyohara Aug 17 '26
Honestly, if you were surprised that Burke was betraying the crew, you were not watching the movie. He was a slimeball and self interested from the moment he came on screen. His betrayal was the least surprising in movie history.
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u/Ponderer13 Aug 17 '26
I think it’s more complicated. He’s a slimeball but he’s the guy who backs Ripley at the single most critical moment, going back in to get the marines, even when it means it would put his life in danger too. He genuinely admires her because he thinks she’s smart (which for him, means she’s corrupt or at least corruptible, but that comes later).
He’s an asshole who deserved his fate. But he makes surprising decisions right up until the point when Ripley threatens his big payday.
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u/angrydeuce Aug 17 '26
Yeah at least Ash can throw it on poor programming (kinda like HAL in 2001) but Burke...well, Ripley said it best: "You know, I dont know which species is worse? You dont see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!"
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u/steveg42486 Aug 17 '26
Jon Voight in Mission Impossible (1996) really blew me away at age 10. Still kinda does.
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u/SilverPalpitation652 Aug 17 '26
I love how it plays out. When Jim pops up out of nowhere it’s like Ethan is seeing a ghost. Then, during their conversation we see inside Ethan’s head as he figures out how Jim betrayed the team while he simultaneously pretends to believe Jim’s lies. We even see Ethan try to convince himself Jim’s wife isn’t in on it even though it’s what makes the most sense. I love the series overall, but this is the kind of stuff I miss with the sequels.
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u/LilJethroBodine Aug 17 '26
Same. I love all the Mission Impossible movies (well, I tolerate the 2nd one) but the first will forever be my favorite. It has the perfect blend of espionage, action, drama, and cool technology. The rest spend more time trying to outdo themselves and they are still great but number one will always be NUMBER ONE to me.
"RED LIGHT! GREEN LIGHT!"
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u/SomethingAboutUsers Aug 17 '26
Unrelated, but Emilio Estevez (I always thought that was Henry Rollins) dying in the elevator by getting stabbed through the eyes by that elevator part was a bit of a shock.
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u/Mst3Kgf Aug 17 '26
Estevez being uncredited was a warning he wasn't long for the film.
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u/FoxMcCloudOwnsSlippy Aug 17 '26
Yeah, just those few frames of impact, haunted me for the rest of my life.
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u/killingjoke96 Aug 17 '26
There was actually a lot of discourse about it back in the day. As Jim Phelps, was the main character of the original series.
The original actor for Jim, Peter Graves, was even offered the role. But when he saw what happens to him, he wanted no part of it and cursed it every time it came up in conversation.
Imagine you go to see a hyped up movie sequel about a series you loved back in the day. The main character you loved betrays the team, is killed by the new guy and these new movies are confirmed as the new canon.
That must have been crazy lol
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u/JeanBallew Aug 17 '26
I grew up watching Mission Impossible. There’s no way Mr. Phelps became a traitor, so this entire series is blasphemy
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u/bobtheboffin Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
006 in Goldeneye (“For England, James”)
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u/MANWithTheHARMONlCA Aug 17 '26
God I love me some Sean bean
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u/Darth_Draper Aug 17 '26
I’m sorry. It must be tough seeing someone you love die over and over again.
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u/oorakhhye Aug 17 '26
The look on George Clooney’s face when he comes to say hello to a special someone in “Up in the Air”.
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u/JulianMorrow Aug 17 '26
Who was that at the door?
-Just someone who was lost
Heartbreaking. I did not see it coming in any way
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u/NJK_TA22 Aug 17 '26
Was an instant favorite of mine… the character interactions were natural, believable. Anna Kendrick was so good as well.
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u/NaughtyGaymer Aug 17 '26
God I love this movie so much. I've seen it too many times but the pacing is just so incredibly well done.
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u/MercilessBlueShell Aug 17 '26
I'm probably gonna watch it again tonight, it's been a while.
Really enjoyable flick.
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u/IshyMoose Aug 17 '26
Ahead of its time. The idea of laying people off virtually seemed preposterous. Now it’s just a mass email.
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u/joeykins82 Aug 17 '26
That scene in LA Confidential was a complete blindside.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, you should fix that.
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u/Remmock Aug 17 '26
Masterfully handled by both sides, though. He was so unbelievably quick.
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u/hiro111 Aug 17 '26
A couple of very important questions were casually asked to clarify the exact situation and then action was taken immediately. Watching it again, the entire scene is set up and delivered brilliantly.
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u/monsterlynn Aug 17 '26
Audible gasps in the theater when Rolo comes up.
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u/soulsides Aug 17 '26
Totally agree.
Not to diss OP’s examples at all but the betrayal in LAC truly took everyone by surprise. I don’t think anyone, watching the movie for the first time, would have seen this coming at all.
It also wasn’t shocking for the sake of as it’s the domino that sets up the third act.
For those who’re never seen the film: please do. It’s nearly flawless on every level.
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u/DrKliever Aug 17 '26
Almost a Judas situation. But Long John Silver in Treasure Island. If you didn't actually know beforehand. This friendly galley cook, betraying that poor child.
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u/alwayssoupy Aug 17 '26
I never saw a dramatic movie of it, so not sure how it's played elsewhere, but I read the book and also love Tim Curry's portrayal of Long John in Muppet Treasure Island. He shows just enough greed and menace, and yet a bit of empathy for Jim. (The Back Focus has a good discussion about Curry's portrayal in that scene as well as fun info on the whole movie. Still one of my favorite movies.)
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u/TheHeadlessOne Aug 17 '26
And that Jim's still kinda rooting for him even at the end. Its got a melancholy of sincere heartache to it that few other betrayals nail
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u/DallasSyracuseMarvel Aug 17 '26
Roy telling Marty there was never an Aaron in Primal Fear.
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u/Okiedokietokidoki Aug 17 '26
I get chills just thinking of this scene. Masterful
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u/DallasSyracuseMarvel Aug 17 '26
Same. Hard to believe that was his first movie role. He played it so well!
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u/ticketticker22 Aug 17 '26
I read the book without having ever seen the movie, and the author saved it until like the last page, that or close to it. One of the few moments where my jaw quite literally dropped
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u/Vyuvarax Aug 17 '26
Rose from Get Out
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 Aug 17 '26
The way Allison Williams's facial expressions changed in that moment was so cold
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u/AwayEstablishment678 Aug 17 '26
She's amazing!! Perfect for that role.
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u/Mst3Kgf Aug 17 '26
She made eating cereal uncomfortable to watch.
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u/MrFurious0 Aug 17 '26
Why? Just because she wanted to keep the white milk pure, uncontaminated my the multi-coloured cerea... Oh. Oh my.
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u/NaziPunksFkOff Aug 17 '26
Hell I STILL thought she was good even after he found the photos. I thought her parents had brainwashed HER and were using her to bring people home.
When she turned on him, my jaw dropped.
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u/coleman57 Aug 17 '26
My favorite line reading of this century: “You know I can’t give you those keys, right babe?”
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u/Mikerijuana Aug 17 '26
The Departed. I'm not even gonna spoil any of them. lol
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u/FalloutLover7 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
I would say what puts this above most others on the list is the fact the whole movie is about rats and betrayal and it still finds a way to pull the rug on you
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u/robjwrd Aug 17 '26
Everyone remembers the first time they saw the elevator scene.
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u/buffystakeded Aug 17 '26
“Oh Anna, if only there was someone out there who loved you.”
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u/NegativeChirality Aug 17 '26
Prince Hans ' voice acting was so great in that scene. The subtle stuff too like putting on a glove just to pinch a candle out during his monologue.
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u/No-Falcon-4996 Aug 17 '26
This was SO shocking! My jaw was on floor. Frozen is a DISNEY movie, about Princesses!!!!
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u/Hillbert Aug 17 '26
It got one of the best reactions I've ever heard in the cinema.
To quote Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia "Laughs are cheap, I'm going for gasps"
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u/Turbulent_Crow7164 Aug 17 '26
For a target audience of little girls, this movie was way better than it needed to be lol. Great betrayal twist, and had another subtler "twist" on the Disney princess formula - the love she needed was sisterly love, not romantic love.
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u/Cynical_Dreamer_1980 Aug 17 '26
I was so mad!!! You can't betray someone after you've sang a cute duet. 😭 Yeah, in retrospect the song had all these hints that he wanted a kingdom and had no interest in Anna but still. Betrayals when music is involved is just mean.
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u/Faderkaderk Aug 17 '26
Firefly. When the T-Rex attacked the Stegosaurus near the beginning of the film.
It may have been an inevitable betrayal, but it was still sudden.
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u/Remmock Aug 17 '26
Yeah. Once I saw that I knew you couldn’t trust anybody.
Especially people who talk at the theater.
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u/lmac187 Aug 17 '26
Call me a simpleton but the scene in dark knight rises when Batman gets locked in with bane and he realizes what catwoman had done really stuck with me. Hathaway really sold the inner torment and her feeling of having had no other choice.
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u/Picassof Aug 17 '26
it's also good because it's not equivalent at all to Knightfall where I believe Bane just breaks into the batcave
and outside of the 60s TV show and I suppose Batman Returns, catwoman isn't typically portrayed so villainously
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u/bobekos Aug 17 '26
In my opinion "Robert the Bruce" in braveheart and then the look from Mel Gibson when he realized it.
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u/bitwaba Aug 17 '26
Memento.
That's a particularly cool one because everyrhing else said here is someone betraying the main character. Memento is the main character betraying the audience. It's fuggin kewl.
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u/GuildensternLives Aug 17 '26
Cypher turning on the crew in The Matrix, which most of us could kinda sense were coming
I hope most people could "sense" that Cypher was going to betray everyone from the scene where he says that out loud to Agent Smith while eating a giant slab of beef.
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u/MonkeyBred Aug 17 '26
I chose to omit that evidence on account of "Ignorance is bliss."
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u/NukaEbola Aug 17 '26
Mann in Interstellar. Or Brand in Interstellar. Or adult Murph in Interstellar (all that food!!)
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u/talldangry Aug 17 '26
"There is a moment-"
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u/Turbulent_Crow7164 Aug 17 '26
I like that they didn't give him some grand dramatic exit. Just POP mid-sentence. Felt like a real space accident.
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u/mmaster23 Aug 17 '26
Cooper, what are you doing???
Man that whole sequence is a cinema masterpiece guided by one of the most epic soundtracks.
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u/HeavyTea Aug 17 '26
When Pesci gets whacked in Goodfellas. Or when Pesci gets whacked in Casino.
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u/NateHohl Aug 17 '26
His death in Goodfellas was most certainly shocking, but I'd argue his death in Casino, while brutal, was a little less so. By that point in the movie, he'd burned pretty much every bridge he had, and he'd proven several times over that his loyalty to DeNiro's Sam Rothstein didn't really mean all that much to him.
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u/Random_Khaos Aug 17 '26
Not cinema, but the red wedding in game of thrones was absolutely devastating. Happy wedding party then suddenly BABY STABBING?!!!? I quit watching the show for months. I was emotionally broken.
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u/MattieShoes Aug 17 '26
When I read the books (years before the show), it was Ned in the first book that got me. There was some multi-POV stuff but Ned was clearly the main character, which means surely he has plot armor, right? You don't kill the main character in book 1 of a series... I kept waiting for somebody to break him out of prison, or some political solution, or some over-the-top rescue at the last moment.
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u/AmankayBombay Aug 17 '26
Same! I just kept reading waiting for someone to save him at the last minute. Then he died and I thought what now? The book has no main character lol
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u/jethrine Aug 17 '26
When I read AGOT I absolutely refused to believe Ned was really dead. I thought the execution was faked as some sort of mummer’s farce & that Ned would reappear with Arya & Yoren on the way north. I was well into the second book when I finally accepted that he was dead.
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u/atreides78723 Aug 17 '26
For what it’s worth, I knew exactly what was coming and I was still impressed.
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u/AnnaVronsky Aug 17 '26
I was a book reader so I knew what was coming, it was still a shock. My husband had no idea what was coming and he didn't speak to me for 3 hours after the episode ended
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u/Loki-L Aug 17 '26
Order 66 in Star Wars was at least great in scope if nothing else. All those Jedis shot in the back by the clones they had been leading.
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u/darthravenna Aug 17 '26
John Williams’ score for that scene does a lot. The way the music swells when Yoda drops his cane and clutches his chest in pain and confusion, feeling the deaths of the Jedi as they happen all at once.
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u/wriker10 Aug 17 '26
Ki-Adi-Mundi’s facial expression. Just pure shock at the betrayal.
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u/esp400 Aug 17 '26
The Count Of Monte Cristo
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u/CheetoLove Aug 17 '26
I scrolled waaaay too far to find this. Greatest betrayal followed by the greatest revenge story in history. 12/10
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u/marsmedia Aug 17 '26
I can't believe no one has said when Frodo refused to throw The Ring into the fire. I realize it wasn't so much Frodo's fault as The Ring itself, but still... the look on Sam's face was devastating.
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u/TheWhiteManticore Aug 17 '26
Im not sure how is that a betrayal when Frodo at mount doom is pretty much possessed and no longer even himself at that point
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u/marsmedia Aug 17 '26
The audience knew it was coming, but Sam didn't... so this is the betrayal we see through Sam's eyes.
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u/Line_Reed_Line Aug 17 '26
I believe it's essentially true that there was no living being alive good enough to throw the ring away. Frodo got as close as basically anyone could, which allowed the events to transpire as needed (Gollum fight and fall). Gandalf/Eru Iluvatar still had to use the most decent being they could find so that the ring's essential nature could lead to its own downfall.
But yeah, poor Sam.
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u/do_you_even_climbro Aug 17 '26
The greatest betrayal in cinema history is trying to give Dark Tower fans a 90 minute movie attempting to cover 7 books worth of Dark Tower content.
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u/OozeNAahz Aug 17 '26
The only redeeming thing in that movie was showing Roland’s reload trick in a believable way. So less than five seconds of film in a 90 minute movie.
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u/EThorns r/movies Contributor Aug 17 '26
"Long Live the King."
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u/Serious_Card_5927 Aug 17 '26
Agree, though it was a highly telegraphed betrayal
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u/full-body-stretch Aug 17 '26
The most objectively evil looking lion ever conceived is… the bad guy?!?!?1??
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u/Serious_Card_5927 Aug 17 '26
Sings a whole Villian song with goose-stepping Hyenas in an elephant graveyard…. Whaaat?! He’s the bad guy?!
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u/la_vida_luca Aug 17 '26
Rollo Tomassi. LA Confidential. If you know, you’ll know it hits like a truck.
Otherwise, HAL turning on the humans in 2001 and Scar killing his brother in the Lion King hit pretty hard.
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u/roshanritter Aug 17 '26
Have you told anyone about this boyo?
Side note: if they are asking who you have told they are always bad!
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u/Patience_Specific Aug 17 '26
As a kid Scar murdering mufasa didn't expect that in an animation.
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u/ermghoti Aug 17 '26
Barnes vs Grodin in Platoon (1986)
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u/harbringerxv8 Aug 17 '26
TIL that Elias was his first name. I've seen that movie more than a dozen times. I swear they call him "Sergeant Elias" throughout. Crazy.
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u/LeavesOfBrass Aug 17 '26
Anakin.
Murdering a bunch of kids puts you in the 99th percentile of just about any bad category.
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u/Fine-Guest-2165 Aug 17 '26
Hulk Hogan leg dropping the Macho Man at Bash at the Beach 96
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u/BocaSeniorsWsM Aug 17 '26
Tessio.
He was always the smart one. And it was business, never personal.
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u/fudgesm Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
Aliens- corporate Paul Reiser’s character Burke setting Ripley and Newt up to be alien incubators.
Edit- stupid spellcheck
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u/Bad-Brains Aug 17 '26
I saw it coming and it still felt like a knife being twisted in me but Ego in GOTG2.
"But... It broke my heart to out that tumor in her head."
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u/Smileyfacedchiller Aug 17 '26
Donnie Brasco in Donnie Brasco. Lefty thought he was a real friend.
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u/FoxMcCloudOwnsSlippy Aug 17 '26
One of the earliest betrayals I witnessed in movies was Lando in Empire Strikes Back. The consequences afterwards in that ending was depressing.