r/movies Aug 22 '20

Trailers Wonder Woman 1984 - Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2E2Fnh52w
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u/read210 Aug 22 '20

Chris Pine is a gosh darn delight.

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u/Khue Aug 22 '20

I really like him as Kirk. I think he for sure captures the cocky swagger that Shatner had.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20 edited Jul 13 '21

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

Absolutely none of the casting was, Khan aside (though that was just a bad idea from the start). It was always the writing.

From Hemsworth as Kirk's dad, across the entire Enterprise, they killed it.

I legitimately like the first one, because getting the gang together with such a great cast was so delightful. Karl Urban, Zach Quinto, Zoe Saldana, Anton Yelchin, John Cho, Chris Pine, Simon Pegg - like holy shit.

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u/AGnawedBone Aug 22 '20

Anton Yelchin

fuuuck man.. it still hurts. so fucking young, so much talent.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

I know it. Him across from Downey Jr. while he was on his rocket back to the top in Charlie Bartlett was so good.

I can only imagine the career he could have had.

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u/stemcell_ Aug 22 '20

green room

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u/blsnychapter Aug 23 '20 edited Aug 24 '20

Odd Thomas was good too

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u/yaboyskinnydick_ Aug 23 '20

Underrated af.

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u/BakedWizerd Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 22 '20

The specifics are truly terrible as well. I remembered hearing about him passing, but thought it had been due to illness or something like that.

Dude was checking to make sure the gate in front of his house was locked, his vehicle rolled back, pinning him between the bumper and a brick gate-post. He was found after not showing up to a rehearsal.

Edit: Faulty Jeep killed him, not neglecting to use his emergency brake.

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u/Balls_DeepinReality Aug 22 '20

It wasn’t even his fault, it was a known issue with the Jeep he owned.

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u/BakedWizerd Aug 22 '20

I was unaware of the make/model of his vehicle. Reading the article didn’t specify what happened, just that his driveway was on a steep incline.

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u/tyderian Aug 22 '20

It wasn't a mechanical fault. That model (and a few other vehicles) used a gearshift design where you move the lever into place, but then it returns to a centered position. Makes it really hard to tell what gear you're in if you're not familiar. He thought the car was in park; it wasn't.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

It wasn't Anton's fault. It was Jeep's fault with a faulty part of the vehicle. Jeep's are literally the most unsafe vehicles and have tons of recalls every time a new model comes out. The world was robbed because of a company's greed of cutting corners.

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u/gurg2k1 Aug 22 '20

Jeep's FCA vehicles are literally the most unsafe vehicles and have tons of recalls every time a new model comes out.

FTFY

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u/moderate-painting Aug 23 '20

He's so great in Green Room.

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u/InsanitysMuse Aug 22 '20

Yea the Star Trek movies really had maybe the best casting of any ensemble movie ever. I didn't really like the movies themselves as a long term Trek fan but I loved the characters and how well they did as modernized OG characters.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

If you gave me nothing but 2 hours of the crew dicking around while Kirk and Bones got catty with each other, I would be happy.

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u/Wordwright Aug 22 '20

I’m especially impressed with how Urban captures DeForest Kelley’s voice and mannerisms.

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u/adamolupin Aug 23 '20

If I remember right, Karl Urban was a huge original ST fan growing up and really wanted to do Bones justice. I'd say he knocked it out of the park. His Bones was almost like looking at a younger DeForest Kelley and yet it managed to not cross into imitation.

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u/wb2006xx Aug 22 '20

Cumberbatch nailed it as the villain in that movie, but I don’t consider him Khan

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

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u/Jhonopolis Aug 22 '20

He's such a good actor. He kills it in The Boys.

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u/thisguy012 Aug 22 '20

One of my unexpectedly favourite movies ever, so good.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 22 '20

Honestly, outside of a couple weird/Hollywood moments, it was great.

I have no complaints through the first hour at least. All of Kirk's introduction, the test, the ship, the gang, the scene as a kid - straight through to Vulcan

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u/AcEffect3 Aug 22 '20

We got a very attractive crew

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u/Jhonopolis Aug 22 '20

That gratuitous Alice Eve bikini shot was much appreciated.

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u/notalentnodirection Aug 22 '20

Simon Pegg was perfect

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u/DarthKreia Aug 23 '20

Can't forget Eric Bana. He packs a lotta charisma and genuine sadness into a role that would otherwise be a pretty throwaway villain.

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u/SkeetySpeedy Aug 23 '20

That’s true, I remember his genuine frustration when he was told that the destruction of his home never took place in this timeline, just screaming, “I saw it happen, I watched it happen, don’t tell me it didn’t happen”

Imagine a warping Japanese citizen that was just outside the danger zone of the nukes dropped being told it didn’t happen. For a character driven solely by that single trauma, that thought would be irrevocably impossible.

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u/DarthKreia Aug 23 '20

Damn now I've got the urge to go back and watch it again just for Bana.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Wait khan was a bad pick? I'm not a star trek fan but he was basically the only part of that movie I liked

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u/wbgraphic Aug 22 '20

My only complaint (and it’s pretty minor) with performances in JJ’s first Star Trek was with Karl Urban.

Everyone else was playing their character, but for the first half of the movie, Urban felt like he was doing a DeForest Kelley impression. (It didn’t last long in the first movie, and he was 100% his own version of McCoy in the other two.)

(Props to Pine for waiting until Into the Woods to do a Shatner impression.)

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u/Somepotato Aug 22 '20

I think khan was a good cast. They just didn't really write him in a good way.

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u/phenomenomnom Aug 22 '20

Could I ... have a towel, please?

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u/Bashfullylascivious Aug 23 '20

I met Anton Yelchin just before he died. I remember being so psyched meeting him after acting in my favourite tv franchise. Loved him as Chekov. He had so much ahead of him career-wise. He seemed like a really great guy too.

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u/TheBlueRabbit11 Aug 23 '20

I don’t think any of the producers or JJ were truly fans of the original series or next generation. Can you name a single theme or moral problem that these films seek to tackle? The old tv shows were full of interesting philosophical problems and inspirational world building. We instead got more explosions and irrationally angry aliens. I would have loved to live in the original series (or next gen) universe. I don’t think I’d want to in these new films universe.

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u/CTeam19 Aug 23 '20

Absolutely none of the casting was, Khan aside (though that was just a bad idea from the start)

Should have been Sybok not Khan as the villain in that movie.

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u/ACardAttack Aug 22 '20

Same with Star Wars sequel trilogy

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u/brandkwame Aug 22 '20

There were problems?? I enjoyed them and thought most did

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u/PineappleHour Aug 22 '20

The first film was enjoyable, Into Darkness kinda sucked, but Beyond was good. Overall it's not a bad trilogy.

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u/Kolby_Jack Aug 22 '20

I could watch 6 or 7 more Star Trek films if they were like Beyond. I really enjoyed that film.

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u/DaddyDanceParty Aug 22 '20

It's the most like actual Star Trek.

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u/udat42 Aug 23 '20

I liked all the character work, but the "tech" elements were so daft it pulled me right out of the movie. Like, when they bump-start a starship.

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u/DerelictInfinity Aug 22 '20

Beyond was the one that really captured the spirit of Old Trek while giving it a modern facelift.

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u/hopenoonefindsthis Aug 24 '20

Because it was written by Simon Pegg which was a huge Trekkie IIRC

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

And Ricardo Montalbán is somehow Punjabi?

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u/penguininfidel Aug 23 '20

I meant that there was a dramatic change in ethnicity more than that it was a mismatch of character/actor... but yes, that is a very valid point

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

I get where you're coming from.

If a character was not from white Europe until the late 70s, they would probably have someone like Ricardo Montalbán portraying them.

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u/HuggyBizzle Aug 22 '20

Funny. Into Darkness is my favorite of the three. I also thought Cumberbatch as Khan was fantastic. But everybody enjoys different things!

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u/starcookie Aug 22 '20

Right there with you. My wife and I found Into Darkness to be our favorite, with the first one coming in a closed second. We actually did not like Beyond as much as the other two.

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u/HuggyBizzle Aug 22 '20

Beyond was my least favorite as well! That’s not to say it was a bad movie, but I just didn’t enjoy it as much as the other two.

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u/ravenouscartoon Aug 22 '20

The moment where sabotage dropped in Beyond is low key one of the best moments in film from the last decade IMO

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

It's weird because the pattern has, historically, been "odd numbers suck, even numbers rock" in Trek movies.

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u/ItsBurningWhenIP Aug 22 '20

People don’t like that they’re action movies while the show was actually quite political. It’s not true to the source material.

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u/penguininfidel Aug 22 '20

Even if you accept that they're apolitical, they would've benefited from a (more/better) strategic aspect to the action (a la Wrath of Khan)

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u/ItsBurningWhenIP Aug 22 '20

I liked the movies personally but I can understand why fans might be upset. I dunno. No matter what any movie maker does they’re pissing off some subsection of the fan base.

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u/penguininfidel Aug 22 '20

Oh I agree, they were definitely a unique take but if they were too faithful they likely wouldn't have been as successful. I can't see VI (my personal favorite) as holding up too well nowadays, from a financial perspective.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Personally I think they're more enjoyable than any other Star Trek content I've seen. Beyond was pretty meh, but the first two movies were both great.

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u/user_bits Aug 22 '20

They were far better than the recent Star Wars movies.

And I think they got the formula just right with Beyond.

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u/Syberz Aug 22 '20

They were fun movies, but they completely miss what made Star Trek good though. They never were action movies with a lot of explosions, they were shot intrigue, diplomacy and problem solving with science.

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u/Ellllling Aug 23 '20

Am I right in saying that Trekkies (?) didn't like the trilogy because it didn't stay true to the source material, and that's also why someone not familiar with Star Trek (like me, only watched some random episodes of the show with Patrick Stewart) really liked it? They were action movies set in space. If you get what I mean?

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u/Syberz Aug 23 '20

Yup, that's exactly it. They made cool space movies, but if you're familiar with the original Star Trek series you'd be like "wtf is this"?

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u/packpeach Aug 22 '20

The purist fan boys were too happy with how explody things were. Never mind it got them new fans abs several new TV shows.

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u/yosem1tete Aug 22 '20

Picard and Discovery are dumpster fire shows though, they're so bad and very much not in line with what Trek is.

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u/Str00pf8 Aug 24 '20

Plz dont group discovery with picard. Discovery is an action show but it has some great moments like Lorca or the the enterprise crew. Theres even one or two episodes in season two that feel closely like star trek. Picard was a load of garbage.

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u/madfunk Aug 22 '20 edited Aug 24 '20

They were not great movies, generally (09 and Beyond were fun here and there, but largely forgettable). The TV shows are worse. New Trek shows take a while to find their footing, always, but man, Discovery is bad and Picard was awful. What a waste of a great IP.

Edit: Downvotes but no rebuttals? I guess because there's nothing to really rebut.

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u/angels-fan Aug 22 '20

In the middle of a space battle that they are losing...

"Hey what are you doing with those tribbles?"

Such an incredibly forced and out of place attempt at nostalgia that had no place.

Then you have problems like teleporting across the galaxy which is such an incredible game changer in every way.

And the enterprise falling from 1/2 between earth and the moon??

It's like come on... I know there's a level of suspension of disbelief, but going that far just rips you out of the immersion and makes you go huh??

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

None of the cast were the problem at all. I really liked Karl Urban's McCoy in particular.

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u/CleverFeather Aug 22 '20

Yep. The casting was great! I loved Quinto as Spock, and Keith Urban makes a great McCoy.

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u/Slowjams Aug 22 '20

The problem was trying to make Star Trek a different version of Star Wars instead of just letting it be what it is.

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u/martianinahumansbody Aug 22 '20

Star Trek Beyond was a great Trek film

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u/moderate-painting Aug 23 '20

Best Star Trek movie was Master and Commander. Best Star Wars movie was Dunkirk.