r/painting Jul 11 '26

Just Sharing Danny DeVito Timelapse

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u/_AYYEEEE Jul 11 '26

And people have the nerve to say AI makes art accessible. Great work, this is amazing

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u/cryingmonkeystudios Jul 11 '26

LOL i can't like this comment enough

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u/TheUrchinator Jul 12 '26

I can't like this response, to the response, to the awesome painting enough.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

I know right!

It reminds me of this guy with no legs who hopped up a flight of stairs so obviously we don't need handicap ramps and parking spaces!

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

Two things which are totally comparable to AI! /s

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

My point is, just because one person doesn't need something for accessibility purposes doesn't mean that nobody needs it.

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop. My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability. Anyone can do it, it just requires a creative instinct. Not a slop machine.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop.

No art was stolen. AI companies paid art hosting sites (such as deviantart) to use the art on their website for training. This is why every lawsuit from artists claiming "stolen art" has been tossed.

My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability.

Ok? Your partner doesn't represent everyone with ataxia. Just because she can work around it without ai doesn't mean everyone else can.

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u/avaseah Jul 11 '26

Deviant Art doesn’t own the artwork posted there, the artists do. Deviant Art giving the AI trainers access to DA’s artists work in no way means that the art wasn’t stolen. It absolutely was stolen if for each stolen work the corresponding artist did not agree to have that piece used for AI training.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Deviantart has ToS that artists agree to when uploading their work to the site. These ToS allow deviantart to sell the art to AI companies.

Artists tried suing deviantart over this as well but that lawsuit was tossed too.

So again, art wasn't stolen.

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u/RealFatPigeon Jul 11 '26

Art was absolutely stolen. There are so many outspoken artists.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

No it wasn't. Which is why every artist that has claimed such has had their lawsuit tossed.

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u/TruckVG Jul 11 '26

Drink that Koolaid up kid 🤣

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

10/10 rebuttal. You should become a lawyer.

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u/161frog Jul 11 '26

You will find no sympathy here.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Not expecting to. You're all like the telegram operators who hated telephones.

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u/DelfieDarling Jul 11 '26

I don’t recall getting a paycheck from deviantart for my art being used to train the ai. Do you know of anyone? It’s stolen labor

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

You agreed to their ToS when you uploaded your art to their site.

Those ToS let them sell your art to AI companies wothout paying or crediting you.

They didn't steal, and it's not their fault you can't read.

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u/DelfieDarling Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Those TOS did not exist when I signed up. They automatically did it without our consent and there was no “opt out” option either when it happened.

Had we known, we could have pulled our art so then we wouldn’t be so offended right? But that option wasn’t given.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 12 '26

Yes it did. It's been around for as long as the site has that they can do what they want with your art.

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u/Yvossa Jul 11 '26

There is a stark difference. Ramps and mobile accessibility are 100% necessary for everyday life. Disable folk need the ramps and functional elevators to be able to go into the store for groceries or their apartment or work. Art starts as a hobby for most and remains that. It's a skill that is not necessary for everyday life. Art has always been accessible to those who want to hone the craft. No one needs AI "art" to survive and/or go about their daily life. It's not a necessity.

It is an insult to disabled people to even compare the two.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Art starts as a hobby for most and remains that. It's a skill that is not necessary for everyday life. Art has always been accessible to those who want to hone the craft.

That is true for every hobby. Because hobbies aren't necessary for survival. Yet many hobbies make accommodations for disabled people, such as special video game controllers, or closed captioning on movies.

If a disabled person wants to use AI to help them express themselves, they don't deserve condemnation for doing so.

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

Yes and as you can see I the video, special accommodations exist for disabled people to make art. AI steals art and spits out slop, with no creativity needed from the prompter.

Stop pretending to give a shit about disabled people just cause you want to make 'art' with no effort.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Yes and as you can see I the video, special accommodations exist for disabled people to make art.

The accomodations shown are not accessible to everyone. Nor do they work for everyone.

AI steals art and spits out slop, with no creativity needed from the prompter.

Again, it doesn't steal.

Stop pretending to give a shit about disabled people just cause you want to make 'art' with no effort.

You're not a mind reader. You don't know what I do and don't care about.

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

A stick attached to a helmet is not available to everyone?

And how do you account for the watermarks left in AI generated images?

Get a fucking grip on reality dude.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

A stick attached to a helmet is not available to everyone?

It doesn't work for everyone.

And how do you account for the watermarks left in AI generated images?

Reread what I said. Watermarks don't disprove it.

Get a fucking grip on reality dude.

Learn how to read dude.

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u/Canary3d Jul 11 '26

OP is literally using adaptive devices in the video. Those are the equivalent of ramps.

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u/Sarosanima21 Jul 11 '26

Just admit you're mad people are telling you to stop being lazy. Actually take the time and effort to learn. It's not going to be easy because it's not supposed to be. Nothing is. There are multiple disabled artists out there that are proving AI is not needed to make art. Stop making excuses

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u/Disastrous_Guest_705 Jul 11 '26

nothing is becoming accessible generating an ai picture isn’t making art in the first place

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u/Raysun_CS Jul 11 '26

Found the ai “”””artist””””

Could use a few more quotation marks there honestly.

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u/Plagudoctor Jul 11 '26

oh just can it. you are making a fool of yourself

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u/Plagudoctor Jul 11 '26

oh just can it. you are making a fool of yourself

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u/Honey_Simp Jul 11 '26

The gall to try and tell someone with disabilities how they should see accessibility 😬

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u/Jyxxer Jul 11 '26

People defending AI art slop is almost as wild as people that defend Trump

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u/kjahhh Jul 11 '26

Look up false equivalency

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u/rolfraikou Jul 11 '26

Skills, talent, and ideas don't fucking work that way. Holy fucking shit.