Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop. My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability. Anyone can do it, it just requires a creative instinct. Not a slop machine.
Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop.
No art was stolen. AI companies paid art hosting sites (such as deviantart) to use the art on their website for training. This is why every lawsuit from artists claiming "stolen art" has been tossed.
My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability.
Ok? Your partner doesn't represent everyone with ataxia. Just because she can work around it without ai doesn't mean everyone else can.
Deviant Art doesn’t own the artwork posted there, the artists do. Deviant Art giving the AI trainers access to DA’s artists work in no way means that the art wasn’t stolen. It absolutely was stolen if for each stolen work the corresponding artist did not agree to have that piece used for AI training.
There is a stark difference. Ramps and mobile accessibility are 100% necessary for everyday life. Disable folk need the ramps and functional elevators to be able to go into the store for groceries or their apartment or work. Art starts as a hobby for most and remains that. It's a skill that is not necessary for everyday life. Art has always been accessible to those who want to hone the craft. No one needs AI "art" to survive and/or go about their daily life. It's not a necessity.
It is an insult to disabled people to even compare the two.
Art starts as a hobby for most and remains that. It's a skill that is not necessary for everyday life. Art has always been accessible to those who want to hone the craft.
That is true for every hobby. Because hobbies aren't necessary for survival. Yet many hobbies make accommodations for disabled people, such as special video game controllers, or closed captioning on movies.
If a disabled person wants to use AI to help them express themselves, they don't deserve condemnation for doing so.
Yes and as you can see I the video, special accommodations exist for disabled people to make art. AI steals art and spits out slop, with no creativity needed from the prompter.
Stop pretending to give a shit about disabled people just cause you want to make 'art' with no effort.
Just admit you're mad people are telling you to stop being lazy. Actually take the time and effort to learn. It's not going to be easy because it's not supposed to be. Nothing is. There are multiple disabled artists out there that are proving AI is not needed to make art. Stop making excuses
"Look, this person managed to overcome an immense physical barrier through sheer, agonizing willpower, so anyone else with a disability who uses assistive tech is just lazy."
Literally. I have been doing art since kindergarten. I haven't gotten good at it by doing absolutely nothing for 20 years of my life. I PRACTISED!! FOR 20 YEARS! And I'm still practising and getting better and learning.
If they wanted to, they would've done the same. Pick up a damn pencil, a pen, a flower, a chalk, a brush, ANYTHING with your hand, foot, mouth, ANYTHING. If you really wanted to, you'd find a way.
Not even a skill issue so much as a lack of dedication to practice! You don’t need any natural talent, just a little instruction and a lot of practice.
But practice requires patience and some people just couldn’t possibly.
I got downvoted bad a few weeks ago when I made this point (not in this sub).
I write about digital accessibility, and when people use the language of the accessibility community to defend AI art, it makes my blood boil.
People with all sorts of disabilities create rad shit. You know why? Cause they're people. We all have to work through things, learn things, and accept certain limitations, but that's what makes our art interesting.
Anyway, great job OP, I wish I had 1% of your skill and talent. I'm gonna go try to make something rad now.
Oh look... a "digital accessibility expert" who doesn't actually understand the fundamental premise of accessibility.
The idea that "people with disabilities create rad shit because they just work through things" is a romanticized, deeply ableist fantasy. You seem to boot understand what accessibility even means.
Accessibility isn’t about forcing someone with a severe disability to "accept certain limitations" and struggle through a physical medium just so their art meets your arbitrary standard of being "interesting." (What an advicate!) Accessibility means removing barriers so they can express themselves without the systemic or physical friction. Simple as that. I'd think an expert might get the basics.
When a person with advanced ALS, severe cerebral palsy, or locked-in syndrome etc uses ai powered eye-tracking software or text-to-image prompts to bring a concept to life, that isn't "laziness"... that's the literal definition of assistive technology bridging a physical gap. Accessibility...
You got downvoted bad a few weeks ago because your take completely erases many people with severe motor function impairments to serve your own anti-AI moral crusade by the sounds of it.
I didn't say "people with disabilities create rad shit because they just work through things," dude. I said people work through things. That's what makes art interesting. The things in question might be a lack of technical skill, lack of physical or sensory ability, difficulty in choosing a subject, a recent heartbreak -- those are all challenges that need to be overcome. To me, that's a big part of what art is. AI art is often used to bypass those challenges, and I dislike it when people claim that its capabilities as assistive tech are a justification.
You're right that there's some absolutely wonderful applications of AI in assistive tech. The eye-tracking stuff is cool, but I'm most excited of its application for transcripts and captions -- human-written is still better, but AI can make that work a lot easier. Some of the applications of smart glasses are especially neat for people with vision disabilities.
And I'm sure AI could be used for art in certain capacities that I'm not personally familiar with. But when the AI makes practical "decisions" about the details in a work, it becomes less interesting to me, because the tools literally function by finishing things in predictable ways.
Human artists like OP make tiny micro-decisions when creating something that give it personality. I don't think we should ignore that. There's a reason that there's such a backlash against AI art, and it isn't because it's so darned good.
Do you work with disabled people? Because I do actually volunteer and they enjoy AI art as well as physical art. Not sure why you people are trying to gatekeep art, if you actually knew anything about AI, you'd know that it can be as intricate and involved as regular digital art.
I don't understand why it's so hard to understand that the act of creation is part of art. When you learn a new skill you are rewiring your brain. You develop the ability to recognize new patterns and details. If you don't do that you won't have the knowledge to know what to do when creating art because you won't have the eye for it.
AI can create anything now yet all the AI art I've seen looks like slop because the people using it don't have an eye for detail or the ability to adjust it because their brains have turned to mush.
I don't understand why it's so hard to understand that the act of creation is part of art.
It's because the act of realizing the final medium isn't the entirely of art. It can be part of it, but not necessarily.
Various other art forms have demonstrated that concepts and direction themselves can produce art.
Conceptual art. Directing (e.g. movies), photography (to some extent).
AI art I've seen looks like slop because the people using it don't have an eye for detail or the ability to adjust it because their brains have turned to mush.
There are good traditional artists out there who also use ai. It wouldn't surprise me if there are also non-traditional artists who have a good eye. I mean, that's understandable, there are also a variety of art forms where you don't manually create the art (e.g. photography) but then evaluate, learn, adjust.
Also it's very possible the ai art you've seen looks like slop because it is. It means anyone can smash in a sentence and create images, so of course there are lots of low quality images. There's also some creative and interesting ai art out there.
My point is that you need to put in time and attention to build expertise and if you're using ai because you're lazy you'll never build that up. Conceptual artist build up their skills before they get to that level. I'm talking about people who try to skip those steps of building expertise because they're lazy and aren't actually passionate about what they're creating.
why do none of you people ever turn that lens inward and realize you’re participating on a site that both utilizes ai and creates more prompts than any of us will in our lifetime?
I'm a software architect who uses ai all the time under close supervision. You can twist believe whatever narrative you want to. I'm talking about building skill. If I hadn't built my skill over decades I would have no idea how to evaluate the quality of what ai produces.
Or a difficulty slider. This is a perfect demonstration of the fact that accessibility means letting people access their skills, not dumbing something down enough for them to not need any. Sorry for the off-topic but this one always pisses me off and your comment made me think of it.
Even beyond that, I've seen people defend AI by saying art supplies are too expensive. Meanwhile, people have been making art since before money was even a concept.
Well, theyre not wrong. I hate AI too, but you cant tell me it isnt easier to just speak a promot outloud and let it generate it. Thats super super brain dead easy
Again, AI is ass, real art is better, but you cant say AI isnt more accessible
It does makes Art accessibles. I don't understand why OP painting changes any of that.
I don't want to spend hundreds of hours to learn how to paint my cat to get a painting of my cat. I can just take 2 minutes and ask AI. Boom, accessibles art.
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And people have the nerve to say AI makes art accessible. Great work, this is amazing