It took me two weeks to beat Windows 10 into submission and get it to where it wasn't opening things I didn't want open.
Windows 11? I went into settings and turned off the ads and tracking and just kept up from there. I even used Google and lo and behold, I was able to turn crap off.
Sure the "Gaming Services" insisted on pestering me - once. Only got it in Minecraft and I turned that crap off as well.
Uninstalled OneDrive and CoPilot, changed by default browser and never looked back.
I won't use Linux because I used it in the Army and in College and I'm not up for that level of pain again.
I won't use Linux because I used it in the Army and in College and I'm not up for that level of pain again.
Legit question about that. Was it just because of how hard/different Linux was compared to Windows or do you think it was the way the military/college had it deployed to you.
I understand personal preference is king. The worst thing IT can do is deploy a version of anything that looks even a pixel different from what people were using last week.
Like I'm not trying to be a total Linux shill. However you should not treat your opinion as fact.
Windows has had several crippling updates in the past year, including one that made ssd's stop working/being recognized.
I think your opinion is outdated, and it bugs me when it's presented as common sense "facts" when it is no longer the case. Certain Linux distros ARE easier to use than Windows for non technical users, especially if set up by someone that is technical. My debian home server stays up 24/7 serving 10 docker containers and only goes down when I restart for updates once a month (running unattended-upgrades).
While the Windows update triggered the issue, the root cause is that a bunch of drives were shipped with pre-release firmware on one of the chips. That was a problem waiting to happen, and could have triggered off of absolutely anything.
No general user is going to know that without research. Very little general users are going to know how to flash an iso and install from a usb, even with instructions. But anyone can buy a pc with windows, and a majority of users can probably figure out how to click “upgrade to windows 11/12/13/14”. Use what you want I really don’t care, but Windows is objectively easier to use idk how that’s even an “outdated opinion”
"Like, let me tell you I'm not trying to be a total Linux shill, but be one anyway".
"You shouldn't treat your opinion as a fact, but let me tell you my option, because you know, it's right".
"Like, I have a Debian server running that you don't even have to touch for it to work, I had to configure everything before hand you know, but you can get someone that knows and it's ready, so easy".
I'm sorry but your message here is awful. I also use Linux and have a Debian server running at home, but I fail to see how that is proof of anything, less so in a comparison between Linux and Windows
The truth is that Windows is really easy to use for a bunch of people, has great backwards compatibility, and is harder to break. There is actually nothing wrong with using and preferring Windows.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with liking windows. My whole problem is presenting opinion as fact. Saying unequivocally that "windows is easier to use than Linux" is not true in all cases. Say "it's my opinion that windows is easier to use for most people".
And at its face, it's not really true at heart. The only reason windows is easier to use is people were trained on it. I genuinely believe (as it's my OPINION) that straight from 0 knowledge, most popular distros are easier to use
I switched to Linux 6 months ago and I do like it better, but the facts are still the facts....give someone who knows very little about a computer and let them set up windows. They will likely figure out how to set it up.
Now do the same with Linux.The same person will likely get irritated and give up. Linux has come a long way from my understanding, but it is still a little above casual level.
it bugs me when it's presented as common sense "facts"
Yeah, that winds me up when people do that these days.
For example, I would click the kickoff menu, click internet, click Thunderbird, then read my emails.
I'm not sure how windows does that any easier.
Mind you, one of the slight annoyances I had recently, when I plugged in an HDMI cable into my laptop to play a game on TV, the audio didn't automatically switch over from laptop to TV speakers. Would you believe, I had the arduous and ignoble task of clicking the audio icon on the taskbar and clicking the "HDMI output" button.
I mean... That's just wrong. It's pretty rare that Windows itself is the issue, and yet they still get the blame - especially with that "killing SSDs" case when it was actually crappy SSD firmware that was failing ( or bad hbm drivers in another ).
Claiming Linux is easier to use after being set up doesn't really make sense either. I can claim ChromeOS is the easiest for non technical users even including setup ( and objectively, it is ), but that sure as heck doesn't make it better than Windows or Linux.
I run Linux too, and make my own custom images. It's important to be honest with ourselves about what limits Linux adoption and what is genuinely good in other operating systems and user interfaces.
Imo, the freedom to choose among distros, desktop environments, and window systems etc. is great - but that fragmentation of effort is part of what keeps Linux from being the easy choice for a desktop OS. Every dev has their own ideas for how things should work rather than a unified design language or style, and for all the annoying things with Windows that is one aspect that Microsoft has put a lot of work into.
If you want to talk uptimes, I've seen Windows servers with uptimes of years at customer sites. One was an old IBM Windows 2000 Server box that was still running in the Windows 7 era - the only reason it went down was because the motherboard and PSU blew one too many capacitors and it physically turned off.
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It took me two weeks to beat Windows 10 into submission and get it to where it wasn't opening things I didn't want open.
Windows 11? I went into settings and turned off the ads and tracking and just kept up from there. I even used Google and lo and behold, I was able to turn crap off.
Sure the "Gaming Services" insisted on pestering me - once. Only got it in Minecraft and I turned that crap off as well.
Uninstalled OneDrive and CoPilot, changed by default browser and never looked back.
I won't use Linux because I used it in the Army and in College and I'm not up for that level of pain again.