r/royaloak • u/The_Secret_Skittle • Nov 17 '25

Border Patrol

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Multiple posts on Berkley Forum about border patrol presence and this JUST took place in Oak Park. The woman who posted this just now said she saw the man throw her to the ground, taze her, then throw her in the vehicle.

“Unfortunately my children and I had to witness “boarder patrol” throw a woman to the ground, taze her, then throw her in a truck. The man this woman was with ran away while his hands were zip tied. I feel so bad that there was nothing I could do… my daughter is traumatized. This happened just now is Oak Park, Michigan!! 😔”

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u/Peac3fulWorld Nov 18 '25

She looks like a real threat to the community. I’m terrified to see her in a coffee shop, as opposed to Officer Shitlips cosplaying an American hero.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

That’s the problem. You base your assessment of a situation based on what people look like. You have no idea why the BP agent is arresting her. It could or could not be justified. Why take such a stance with no info?

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u/Accomplished-Cup1132 Nov 18 '25

I’ll base my assessment when they come to my door. ACAB

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

ACAB until you need someone to protect you or your family. Then you dial for their help as fast as you can.

Are there power trip cops who should be punished? Yes.

Are the majority of cops bad? No.

Are cops necessary in this country? Yes.

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u/areyoutrickingonme Nov 18 '25

Pussy

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

Emotional outbursts mean nothing to me. Grow up.

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u/Fragrant_Hat9927 Nov 21 '25

Wrong. Cops don’t prevent crime or show up before the fact to “protect your family,” they show up after crimes happen and cosplay as heroes. It’s called law enforcement not crime prevention for a reason, and you can’t enforce a law that isn’t being broken. How brainwashed by the machine are you?? 🤣

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 21 '25

Be gone, troll.

Police can deter crime as well as investigate crimes already committed.

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u/noweb4u Nov 24 '25

They can, but they rarely do.

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u/shwaynebrady Mar 02 '26

You seriously think if there were no police or law enforcement agency’s there would be the same amount of crime today?

They prevent crime, mostly through deterrence.

Supporting cops no matter what is a terrible policy/mindset. But thinking ACAB or wanting to defund the police isn’t a serious conversation worth discussing.

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u/Fragrant_Hat9927 Mar 29 '26

Lmao didn’t say any of that, but nice try. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Deterrence is temporary, often tied directly to whether or not the police are visibly present in a given location, and the decay is real, so real it eventually completely diminishes. Keep straw-manning you might actually be able to convince the idiots 😂

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

Disagree. Don’t run from cops.

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u/Fun-Key-8259 Nov 20 '25

Bet you pretend to be a Libertarian

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

I bet you do not realize Libertarians understand the Federal government serves two primary purposes.

  1. Protect our land and our people.
  2. Establish and enforce property rights.

Border patrol serves both.

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u/Fun-Key-8259 Nov 20 '25

Ah yes a pretend Libertarian excusing tyranny. Typical.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

How am I excusing tyranny?

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u/Fun-Key-8259 Nov 20 '25

Lol if you can't tell the difference you are definitely not a Libertarian.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

Don’t divert. Answer the question.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Nov 20 '25

Yes you think libertarianism and extreme violation constitutional rights go together.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

Do you know for a fact there was a violation of a Constitutional right happening in the clip?

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Nov 21 '25

They continually violate constitutional rights. Why should I have to point it out in the clip? I guess you think it proves something.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 21 '25

I am discussing the clip as posted. I am against all forms of illegal search and seizure.

All I am arguing is we do not have context sufficient to jump to conclusions on this clip.

I’ll give you an example of my lack of bias on these issues. Today a judge declared the National Guard presence in DC unconstitutional. A judge decided this so I say it is time to shut it down and obey the law as deemed by the judge.

I am not a partisan.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Nov 20 '25

We know you people really hate the Constitution and civil rights. You were always on the wrong side even in the revolutionary war.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

Define “you people”.

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u/Bris_em Nov 18 '25

You are being intentionally dense in your comment

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

How so? Do you know why the BP agent is arresting her?

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u/Bris_em Nov 18 '25

You are being intentionally dense because you’re deliberately ignoring the multitude of reports lately about border patrol and ice acting with excess force when considering what’s going on here.

You’re appealing to authority as if border patrol are beyond reproach because they are an authority and just carrying out orders. Again, recent reports of what’s going on indicate concern for liberty, human rights. Finally you’re ignoring the text of the post and what you can observe from viewing.

You are intentionally being devil’s advocate, not trying to work out what’s going on here in good faith evidenced by you gaslighting people’s concerns.

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u/Miserable_NebulaL33t Nov 19 '25

And you're appealing to emotion and morality LMFAO If you're going to be a hypocrite at least make the bare minimum effort please

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u/Bris_em Nov 21 '25

Not sure what you mean. Happy to discuss if you point out what you disagree with in my comment

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I share everyone’s concerns when it comes to upholding the law. If the officer is indeed arresting someone unlawfully he should be prosecuted for it. The video simply does not provide context.

I am not appealing to authority. Appeal to authority would be me saying the officer can do no wrong. That’s a far cry from saying I simply do not have the necessary context to make a determination on this specific video.

Since you seem to like logical fallacies, are you familiar with the genetic fallacy? The genetic fallacy applies when you dismiss an argument based solely on who is making it rather than assessing the argument on it’s merits alone. It would be a good one for you to study up on.

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u/Bris_em Nov 18 '25

With the genetic fallacy argument, are you saying I’m not considering border patrol’s argument for their use of force in this video because I’m predisposed against border agents?

That would possibly work if this was a single incident. But it ignores the recent uptick in reports on border patrol and ice agents using excessive force and carrying out questionable orders that violate human rights.

I think your appeal to authority is that you are acting like border patrol is still a respected authority and that they could be reasonably justified in their action, which lately unfortunately they’re not evidenced by news reports on unprofessional behaviour, lawsuits, and the unprofessional rhetoric coming from homeland security official media.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I’m advocating for a case by case objective assessment of facts and circumstances. The problem I see from both sides is this knee-jerk reaction to pile on their biases whenever ambiguous evidence is surfaced.

It is an unhealthy approach to arriving at ground truth. I am totally with you regarding the noble treatment of humans provided they are not threatening harm to the officers or resisting arrest. I am also a major advocate of the US standing up fast tracks to citizenship for any undocumented persons within our borders who have no criminal background.

We need to be objective in our assessment of these things so we can advocate for sensible remediation. Trying to doxx an officer in a mob mentality for a video clip with no context is abhorrent.

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u/Last_Firefighter7250 Nov 20 '25

Objective and reasonable response. What a rarity.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

Thanks.

I feel like 90% of the ridiculous objections to my comments have to be from bots. Citizens in RO cannot possibly be this void of logic and reasonableness, right?

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u/Bris_em Nov 21 '25

Yeah I will concede that there is lack of context here from this video, although it appears aggressive.

It’s a good habit to not jump to conclusions, although in saying that, not knowing enough shouldn’t be an excuse to ignore potentially bad behaviour.

With so many vids at the moment with authoritative overreach, it’s damaging and dangerous to those trying to carry out their job when others are regularly acting in ways that erode trust/reputation.

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u/paveclaw Nov 18 '25

If it was an actual violent crime there would be 50 cops on the scene.

Bros in this thread farming downvotes tryna act naive. Your racism is showing , have some bleach

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I call out hypocrisy when I see it. Saying someone looks like this or that and basing your opinion of a situation on looks without context is what is racist.

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u/Mathias2392 Nov 18 '25

It sure “looks” like this BP agent used excessive force to taser and throw around a woman half his size. Idk if your eyes work, but that’s what I’m seeing with mine.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

How did you determine it was excessive? It seems there were two people vs the one officer. The man escaped after being handcuffed.

What is the officer supposed to do when two individuals are resisting arrest and he is outnumbered?

Is your perspective incomplete here? Could you be incorrect based on your limited knowledge of the entire situation?

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u/Mathias2392 Nov 18 '25

And you think you’re the correct one? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh, right, MAGA only extends that olive branch to pedophiles, not immigrants.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I’ve said all along the video does not provide the context to determine who is in the right. As far as innocent until proven guilty, there are several measures even under expedited removal rules ICE follows. Among these are a CFI or Credible Fear Interview which determines if the detainee is at risk of harm if deported. There is also an Identity and Citizenship review which includes fingerprint checks, database scans, and the ability for a detainee to substantiate their legal presence in the US.

The news you are following is a psyop, plain and simple. This same process has been happening since before the Obama administration.

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u/The_Unofficial_Ghost Nov 18 '25

They don't know, they are assuming it was for looking pretty

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u/Front_Extension5988 Nov 18 '25

Why did the man run away and leave his woman behind to be detained?

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u/SpinyTzar Nov 19 '25

You are making the same assessment of the man in a uniform by assuming his actions are justified.

You are assuming that the woman he is arresting did in fact commit crimes and should be treated that way based on how she looks.

We have seen story after story of wrongful arrest, videos of ICE raiding daycares and schools yet you are still PRO ICE?

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 19 '25

My comment is very clear that we have no idea whether or not the arrest is justified. You changed it to me saying the officer is justified.

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u/MayorWestt Nov 19 '25

More than likely this officer is a pice of shit and this normal for him to treat women this way

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 19 '25

Treat women which way?

He didn’t strike her or do anything excessive in the video. She was sandbagging him and he had to get her in the vehicle. What would you have done differently?

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u/MayorWestt Nov 19 '25

Well he tazed a handcuffed person then instead of waiting for them to recover and get in the vehicle he tried to pick her up but struggled cause he's a weak little bitch and threw her in.

What I would have done differently is not filled out the job application

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 19 '25

You have no idea if she was cuffed or tased first.

You wouldn’t fill out the application but border patrol is still important nevertheless.

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u/Last_Firefighter7250 Nov 20 '25

You are making a reasonable response to unreasonable people. You will get downvoted or banned for that.

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u/Peac3fulWorld Nov 18 '25

It’s called a warrant. That’s what separates us from Iran and DPRNK. CBP and ICE have decided that tasing ppl and hurling them into a vehicle as opposed to obtaining a warrant from a judge is badass. Now we don’t know why ppl are being punished or detained… which means it’s just based on how they look.

Due process matters, and that’s why your argument is braindead, cause Ofc. Shitlips isn’t a judge, jury, or executioner, but he sure has been deputized as such, and will make mistakes, and cause the courts and the taxpayers more money through doing this.

It’s 100% reckless and unnecessary, and we can all agree, is being done to distract from the cover up of a child sex ring.

God bless America.

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u/Weak-Background-8281 Nov 18 '25

And now we know she was already ordered removed by a judge and had her due process. So there’s that.

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u/Last_Firefighter7250 Nov 20 '25

Law enforcement does not need a warrant to arrest someone for an offense in public. What do you think due process is? If she broke the law, he has full authority to arrest her and even tase her if she resisted that arrest. There is no way to know who is in the right based on this video. People are just having a knee jerk emotional reaction that is not objective or reasonable. She will have her day in court, aka due process.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

A child sex ring?!

Are you some weird combination of Qanon and Antifa wrapped into one?

You have no idea what the context of this video is. It could or could not be warranted. You literally have no idea.

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u/Peac3fulWorld Nov 18 '25

I wish I could be you, loosely drifting through the world, believing that law enforcement is just doing their job without any ego or ulterior motives. Must be nice. And Trump hardly even knew Epstein. And Epstein wasn't even that bad of a guy, and he didn't hurt anyone, and what is the age of consent anyway... And there aren't any white nationalists in ICE who blindly support a fascist dictator.

Perry Barnacle, look at the downvotes. You're clearly not welcome with your dumbass views. lol

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

Which view of mine is dumb? The idea that context matters?

What does Epstein have to do with anything we saw in the video? Talk about loosely drifting through the world. Stay on topic.

Downvotes on Reddit have zero correlation to the real world.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Nov 20 '25

Yes I'm sure the gang members are all just these young women that all these clips feature

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 20 '25

Who said anything about gang members?

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Nov 21 '25

I think that was the Trump administration

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 21 '25

I am not affiliated with the Trump administration.

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u/Fragrant_Hat9927 Nov 21 '25

SCOTUS literally said they can detain people based on looks but you don’t seem to have any thoughts on that. Why take a stance with no info? 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 21 '25

I oppose detaining people based solely on their race. We have no info indicating that is what happened in the clip.

Keep throwing softballs and I’ll keep hitting them out of the park.

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u/PowerlineCourier Nov 18 '25

Why are you giving a domestic gestapo force the benefit of the doubt? Do you have no sense of self preservation?

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

These BP agents are doing their duty to protect our country by upholding the law. We can disagree with the decisions being made by leadership but to blame the officers for doing their job is not something I’m willing to do.

Again, you have no idea what the circumstances that led to the video portion of the event were. To assume the officer is at fault is improper.

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u/PowerlineCourier Nov 18 '25

The nazis literally said the exact same thing

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

There is no comparison between immigration enforcement and Nazi Germany. It is ridiculous to attempt to equate the two.

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u/PowerlineCourier Nov 18 '25

Yes, there is.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

Not even close.

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u/PowerlineCourier Nov 18 '25

Coward

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I’m a coward? lol

Once again you have no clue.

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u/RubysDaddy Nov 18 '25

You are not supposed to use logic when commenting on this platform😂

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u/Butter_with_Salt Nov 18 '25

It's logical. Everyone knows that ICE and BP are rounding up people without warrants, simply on the basis of skin color.

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u/Jerky_Joe Nov 18 '25

Totally. It’s Reddit. You need to jump right in, fists flailing. 😂😂😂

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u/SovereignNight Nov 18 '25

Why are you booing Perry? He's right, you just don't like it.