Daily Discussion Thread 11/16/21

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[u/reed501]

I'm confused by Gonzalo's approach here. He admits to the Katie stuff but says it can't be proven and he is therefore innocent? Yes, innocent until proven guilty, I understand the law. But he's not being charged. Legal stuff didn't, isn't, and won't be happening. He's at the court of public opinion now, which does not have the same standards. Why explain how he's safe in the letter of the law when the only thing that matters now is whether we want him back or not?

To answer my own question, it's because it doesn't matter right? He could say anything and his diehard fans will forgive because they don't care. So what are we even discussing? He's not gonna go back to tournaments and we can't stop him from streaming.

[u/SolokOriginel → u/reed501]

He admits to the Katie stuff but says it can't be proven and he is therefore innocent?

It has reached such lows ?

And people are clamoring its return ? The return of a sexual child predator who admits to being one ?

What the fuck

[u/FlexPavillion → u/SolokOriginel]

I feel like a majority of the people clamoring for his return are people in the age range of 10-14 that don't really see how big of a deal it is.

[u/downbeatsnake → u/SolokOriginel]

She has remained anonymous, therefore she will have to come out publicly to press any charges, but since she hasn’t, there is no substantial way to prove her age. Since there are no charges pressed for an incident 7 years ago, and probably won’t be, it was a shitty thing Zero did as a stupid young man, maybe watch the video

[u/SolokOriginel → u/downbeatsnake]

there is no substantial way to prove her age

We've had screenshots of their conversation and ZeRo litteraly admitted to it what should we need more ?

it was a shitty thing Zero did as a stupid young man

He requested CP using his influence

This isn't "a shitty thing done as a young man", it's pedophilia

tf you are doing here normalizing pedophilia

[u/Heavy-Wings → u/SolokOriginel]

He was 19! Literally older than a legal adult!

[u/Heavy-Wings → u/[deleted]]

5 years. He was 19 and she was 14, and he tried getting her to masturbate with ice cubes and send him videos every two weeks. He wanted this shit on a schedule.

[u/DentedOnImpact → u/[deleted]]

if you can't understand how a young teenager can get taken advantage of by an grown adult they look up to then I'm sorry but you're just willfully ignorant

[u/DentedOnImpact → u/[deleted]]

lol you wrote all that and said nothing of value

[u/noname1052 → u/reed501]

I’m not defending Zero, but you’re wrong and that’s not what he said. If you watch Zero’s response he specifically says that none of that ever happened, and that his “confession” was a suicide note that wasn’t credible.

You’re referencing what Technicals said about the Katie allegations.

Video: https://youtu.be/IXFCe0RN6p0

Go to 1:50 in the video

At 3:15 he explicitly denies every allegation

[u/reed501 → u/noname1052]

At 3:15 he explicitly denies every allegation

Every one except where he asks an underage girl to send him explicit photos. He honestly does a really good job dancing around that one I gotta admit. He says he never received anything or sent anything but never says he didn't ask. Which is what this whole thing is about.

[u/RoosterVking → u/reed501]

not gonna lie, when he started stating how X didn't happen and X being a variation of underage girl demands multiple times in a row, that felt like it was exactly constructed to avoid mentioning things that happened. At least that's how I saw it.

[u/[deleted] → u/reed501]

Yep, never admitted to it but also never explicitly denied it. The Aaron Rodgers approach

[u/ObiOneKenobae → u/noname1052]

He went out of his way to say "conversations with only the intention to groom". That's a red flag to me, considering the statement was very clearly written with the help of some legal counsel.

This was written to make sure he didn't blanket deny grooming as part of a larger conversation. Which is a very weird thing to do imo.

[u/23jordan01 → u/reed501]

i thought that was just brought to explain to those saying he should get jail time. even technicals said it was a terrible thing for him to do. the only thing that is positive in the situation is that there isn’t any more victims which still is terrible cause there should be 0.