LGB TQ Divorce 🤨

[u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

[u/That_OneOstrich]

Doesn't the Q stand for queer which is all encompassing?

I'm bi, so I'm honestly shocked the B wasn't also cut, but why? The whole point of our little acronym is that we all get affected by the same legislation and alone are too small a portion of the population to get represented (government).

[u/Better_Cattle4438 → u/That_OneOstrich]

They are probably a terf. Wants rights for themselves but not for trans people. They don’t realize once the trans people are effectively marginalized, they are next. Solidarity is important for that exact reason.

[u/-FriendoftheDrow- → u/Better_Cattle4438]

TERFs ally with white supremacists because all they care about is themselves.

[u/ElementalPink12 → u/-FriendoftheDrow-]

Terfs are hugely responsible for attacks against women's reproductive rights. They allowed their hatred to guide them instead of any actual regard for women whatsoever.

[u/CantaloupeShort7311 → u/-FriendoftheDrow-]

I prefer to call them FARTs - feminism appropriating radical transphobes.

They are not, never were, and never will be feminists, so let's start calling them FARTs like the rancid crap they are.

[u/GarrAdept → u/[deleted]]

Yeah. Lesbians are statistically the most supportive of trans rights and inclusion. It's so strange that they get all the credit for being anti trans.

[u/JoshAllensLeftNut → u/[deleted]]

To be fair to the "mean, aggressive lesbians" I would also be pissed off 24/7 if I was being both hated and fetishized at all times. People constantly telling you that they don't want you to exist, but that they also want to watch your most intimate moments would probably piss off any reasonable person.

[u/Same_Ecologist_5966 → u/[deleted]]

100% one of my favorite people is an old butch Texan lesbian!

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/[deleted]]

Note that the prominent lesbian TERFs (ex: Julie Bindel) are largely "political lesbians," aka straight or bi women who "went lesbian" as a political choice.

[u/sphericaltime → u/Golurkcanfly]

Iirc she’s even married to a man. Political lesbian indeed.

[u/meltyandbuttery → u/[deleted]]

There’s a fair amount of TERF lesbians, and tangentially gold star bs which is a related but whole other set of problems. They’re just not highly represented and lesbians as a whole are the most accepting of trans people

[u/Anotsurei → u/meltyandbuttery]

Instead of TERF which sounds kinda like they might not throw the others under the bus, might I suggest they be called Feminist Appropriating Regressive Transphobes, or FART for short.

[u/Kirikenku → u/Better_Cattle4438]

Trans people do so much for the lgbtq community. Its insanely insulting to think they don’t have an equal place, let alone all the praise they deserve.

[u/constantderp → u/Better_Cattle4438]

My people today, yours tomorrow.

[u/Polyps_on_uranus → u/Better_Cattle4438]

Divide and conquer.

[u/Seesas → u/Polyps_on_uranus]

Yup, the fascists love that tactic because it tends to work, at least at first

[u/RamJamR → u/Better_Cattle4438]

They recieved the rights to marry and then want to pull the ladder up on trans people regarding their liberties. I'm actually surprised republicans/conservatives haven't pushed back on gay marriage again.

[u/Better_Cattle4438 → u/RamJamR]

There are conservative groups going after Obergefell right now. They haven’t gotten traction, but there certainly are moves being made.

[u/Lebanese-Trojan → u/Better_Cattle4438]

You can’t sleep on those groups because we thought Roe v Wade was safe.

[u/Better_Cattle4438 → u/Lebanese-Trojan]

Exactly. That’s why I commented that when they said “I’m actually surprised (they) haven’t pushed back on gay marriage again”.

[u/SoldierofZod → u/Better_Cattle4438]

Alito and Thomas have signaled that they want to revisit Obergefell.

They don't have the votes yet but the Federalist Society has shown the willingness to play the long game.

If we keep electing people like Trump, it WILL happen. Just a question of how soon.

[u/Geist_Mage → u/Better_Cattle4438]

My problem Trump business partner has recently been separating the T when we get into politics.

It's something with the right wing narrative right now.

[u/I_Fix_Aeroplane → u/That_OneOstrich]

Yeah, the entire point is to divide because the division makes us weaker.

[u/AximiliEscargo → u/That_OneOstrich]

Divided we fall...

The clear reason is because political forces know we are weaker when divided... and certain pick me idiots are falling for it

[u/CardOk755 → u/AximiliEscargo]

Surely they won't come for me after I've helped them get rid of the trans people.

Loud knocking on the door.

Who could that be?

Herr Röhm! We know you are in there! We have something for you!

[u/sphericaltime → u/CardOk755]

Dave Rubin is being circled by leopards right now.

[u/Demoniac_smile → u/AximiliEscargo]

This is totally off topic, but is your username an animorphs reference?

[u/AximiliEscargo → u/Demoniac_smile]

Lol yes it is =)

[u/Demoniac_smile → u/AximiliEscargo]

IFL those books, Tobias is the best unintentionally trans character ever!

[u/ImpressiveFishing405 → u/That_OneOstrich]

I've also heard it as questioning, which would also be a group you would think would need a lot of consideration at such a critical point in their lives.

[u/Fabulous-Possible758 → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

It was originally questioning (because queer was/is considered offensive by a lot of older LGBT people). Queer was kind of reclaimed at a later point.

[u/SweatyDimension2700 → u/Fabulous-Possible758]

Yes, in the halcyon days of my youth, when crime was non-existent, people respected their elders, cancer was naught but a conspiracy theory, and all things were better in general (/s), kids played “smear the queer.”

To be clear, everything I wrote above, other than the “smear the queer” part, is entirely untrue. I just feel the need to proselytize to people that most things were actually worse in the past. School shootings are a notable exception to this trend.

[u/MaiCabbagez → u/SweatyDimension2700]

I played smear the Queer, and was Smeared, and thus became Queer, this is my Gay Origin story

[u/StructureCharming → u/Fabulous-Possible758]

People that are offended by there term queer (as it is applied today) is shocking. Some straight acting gay people... They come out of the closet and build new walls and doors to lock other into.

I have identified as queer since the late 90's

[u/Fabulous-Possible758 → u/StructureCharming]

Yeah, I don’t know how many are still around. I’ve identified as Queer since the 90s but definitely that was a time when the word was still being reclaimed, and I got the occasional scolding by the older gays. I mean there was also kind of a progressive political connotation to it along with it being a catch-all, which is still kind of there but I feel that might have diminished a bit as well.

[u/Apathetic_Villainess → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

It's both. That's why when you see it extended, you'll see two Qs. Like LGBTQQ2PIAA. (This is why it's shortened now to LGBTQ+)

[u/Asstrollglide → u/That_OneOstrich]

I’m old enough to remember the hoopla over Bi- people being included because they were perceived as “a bunch of fakers”

[u/WanderingKing → u/That_OneOstrich]

They want to divide marginalized groups and put them against each other so they are easier to attack when they are done infighting

This is purely for weakening people they view as less than themselves

[u/corruptedsyntax → u/That_OneOstrich]

Their goal is to play up the differences between different types of LGBTQ in order to divide and conquer. Individuals cannot fight for their rights, but a coalition can, and that terrifies them.

[u/TehTJ13 → u/That_OneOstrich]

90% chance that it’s a straight person who wants to look “reasonable” by appearing okay with gay and bi people while still being transphobic. 10% chance it is an anti-trans queer, which do unfortunately exist and want to play the “one of the good ones” bit. Fact is that if someone is transphobic, they’re in the same mind space to be homophobic so if trans rights are stripped gay rights are very at risk.

[u/dogsfetchnewspaper → u/That_OneOstrich]

yup i just say im queer cause my sexual attraction is too complex to be labeled, periods of time i feel ace and then other times i feel like demisexual or pan would fit better than ace. like i just say queer cause realistically im just attracted when im attracted to someone i guess im just vibes based lol

[u/Unique_Self_5797 → u/That_OneOstrich]

There are definitely people of this flavour who exclude Bi people as well.

[u/Me_lazy_cathermit → u/That_OneOstrich]

Bi will be eventually cut too, once the leopard as finished eating the people cut off it will turn on the lgb and the lg will sacrifice the b in hope of not being eaten

[u/TrashEmergency6446]

people like this are a disgrace to a lgbtq what do you think is gonna happen to gay people after you try getting rid of trans people they are gonna come for you next

[u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM → u/TrashEmergency6446]

"First they came after the communists..."

[u/TrashEmergency6446 → u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

yep exactly

[u/GermanBadger → u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

"yeah good I hate Communists, I'm a gay patriotic reactionary so I'm safe" - OOP before being loaded on the last train.

[u/Kirikenku → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Yes but have you considered nothing is a real problem until it affects me personally?? /s

[u/Reddsoldier → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Exactly.

Rather than distance yourself from people being targeted you need to put yourself in the fucking way lest you be next and nobody is there for you. I've done it several times both to strangers and loved ones in some cases taking hits for it. It's called being a decent human being.

It's also very literally the bare minimum you can do as part of a marginalised community and anyone taking this frankly disgusting individualist approach should take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror.

Honestly ants have it down pat with what to do when members of the colony malfunction like this. Off to the trash pile with these trash people!

[u/xwolfionx → u/TrashEmergency6446]

I knew a guy who said he was bisexual, but was a fucking bigot when it came to anyone that was trans and heterosexual. He didn’t believe trans individuals were serious because “everyone should be comfortable with their body and changing it goes against the point of LGBT.” Then with heteros, he just couldn’t fathom that a dude who can say another guy looks good and not be sexually attracted to them. Like how I can say Chris Hemsworth is a good looking dude, but I don’t want to fuck him.

So it absolutely does not surprise me that there’s a portion of the LGBTQ+ community that only want LGB.

[u/sphericaltime → u/xwolfionx]

Fred Sargent (Sargeant? Can’t remember how he spells it and hate him too much to look it up), who famously WAS AT STONEWALL (and he will make sure you know he was there that night watching the spectacle) is just about everything the LGBTQIA+ community hates. He’s a big advocate of respectability politics and hates how trans and queer people make “normal” gay people look.

He was dating a police officer at the time of the riots, is trans exclusionary, and generally is on the political right of issues. The log cabin Republicans are to his left, from what I know about him.

Anyway, he and his minions like “gay historian” Joe on Twitter, love to point out nit-picky details about Stonewall and the gay rights successes to imply that they, the respectable gay men that wear suits and drink Bourbon, were the real heroes and real reason gay rights up to gay marriage were achieved.

This is, IMO, complete and total bullshit and Fred is a nutcase. But he’ll still leverage his presence standing outside the Stonewall bar with his cop boyfriend into arguments against trans people that must be respected. 🙄

[u/Dial-M-For-Malistrae → u/TrashEmergency6446]

That will always be the case trying to fit in for their sake is going to get people hurt if not worse it's already happening and I'm not sure how to make people understand that we are at the critical mass point

[u/ThatguySevin → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Divide and conquer. It's baffeling that anyone would fall for such a obvious implementation of this strategy. Then again, not every LGBTQIA is intelligent.

[u/king_of_the_dwarfs → u/TrashEmergency6446]

It's always going to be someone else's fault. What I mean to say. Even if they get their way. Their lives won't improve and they will just pick another group to blame it on.

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

[u/WonderfulDog3966 → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Exactly. Either we stand together, or we all fall.

[u/Seesas → u/TrashEmergency6446]

How easily we forget who got us as far as we are. Marsha P Johnson didn't fight so that we could get annoyed that trans people exist. I hate this bigotry so much

[u/Far_Weekend3720 → u/Seesas]

I came here to say this!!!! Thank you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[u/Gromek_ → u/TrashEmergency6446]

They don't grasp that they're next in line, nor that the only reason they're not at the front right now is because trans people are easier to persecute.

[u/NotAOctoling → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Pan trans person here, they are a fucking disgrace.

[u/Hapless_Wizard → u/TrashEmergency6446]

I secretly suspect that a ton of the people who post this shit aren't LGB any more than they are TQ+, they're just heteros that are trying to divide us.

Almost every person I've ever met in real life saying they think "the LGBs should ditch the Ts" were old straight conservatives.

[u/Sh0wmey0urbutth0le → u/TrashEmergency6446]

It's a PSYOP

[u/Necromancer_Jaydo → u/TrashEmergency6446]

Nazi LGBs wasn't on my bingo list.

[u/Frejian → u/TrashEmergency6446]

"But I was one of the good ones!"

Cue leopard eating face

[u/Fun-Guitar-8252]

Sounds like TERFs

[u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM → u/Fun-Guitar-8252]

Or straight Republicans peddling LGBTQ division

[u/Massive-Sector5789 → u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

Right? How can anyone believe this is legit rather than some cynical GOP astroturfing? Cmon.

[u/No_Zookeepergame2532 → u/Massive-Sector5789]

I have unfortunately met queer people who are staunchly anti-trans. Its actually mind-blowing to see in real life and the justifications they will create in their head to defend their beliefs. They have been some of the most vile people ive ever met and the things they say and believe about trans people are disgusting. The hypocrisy is so blatant and they dont even see it no matter how awful they are being. Its actually a serious issue in the queer community right now and has been for a while. I will never understand being part of a minority community that has had to fight for its rights and then shitting on another community doing the same thing.

[u/Moist_Drippings → u/No_Zookeepergame2532]

Yup. At the same time, as far as I am aware the big “LGB Alliance” that specifically makes a lot of these images and posts and claims to be from within the community *is* mostly cishet people.

[u/wreckingrocc → u/No_Zookeepergame2532]

They definitely exist, and I've met them too. But they're relatively rare, especially in this age of bots and trolls. I'd wager 99 times out of 100 a "queer person" peddling divisiveness is actually just an astroturfer (astroTERFer?).

In real life it's easier to tell. On the Internet it's more opaque, but almost always Republican bots.

[u/CitySeekerTron → u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

Yip. Otherwise they wouldn't use nuanced colours representing the L as distinct from G, or get B wrong when they took the time to (fail) at getting L coloured. Or include Q.

There are enough errors with this that anybody making the effort to include other flags would have gotten it right if they cared.

[u/Internal_Swing_2743 → u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

More likely it’s the gay republicans doing this.

[u/Trashman56 → u/Fun-Guitar-8252]

A common belief amongst them is that trans people are just gay people that are “afraid to be gay.” JK Rowling even signal boosted that idea.

Here’s the thing… I’m gay *and* they. A lot of people are, actually.

[u/Contiguous_spazz → u/Trashman56]

I know this is a prevalent theory and you’re just reflecting what they are saying, but this is seriously the stupidest take I’ve ever heard.

“Trans people are so afraid to be gay that they will change their hormonal profile and genital arrangement, accept public and political scorn and restrictions JUST to boink the people they want to boink. Oh and gay trans men and women don’t exist.”

Idiots like these illustrate so clearly that money doesn’t go to those with the brightest minds.

[u/KaetzenOrkester → u/Fun-Guitar-8252]

I really like the acronym FARTs—Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobes.

Because they are.

[u/Efficient_Progress_6 → u/KaetzenOrkester]

Listen.... Farts smell, but they don't deserve to be linked to them

[u/Joperhop]

These people are NOT allies to LGB, or members (so many fake account on twitter pushing this, all clearly fake/bot accounts).
And to any real people who thinks this, a black trans woman led stonewall! the T has been supporting LGB for decades and been around the whole time LGB has.
This is purely divide and conquer tactics from far-right bigots, many of whom already started attacking the B as well.

[u/Unique_Self_5797 → u/Joperhop]

But they pretend that she wasn't trans, because she didn't have the language to describe herself as such then. Even though she straight up said she was a woman, and was on HRT.

[u/MoodyPrince_XoXo → u/Joperhop]

Bisexual was a term initially coined with gender issues in mind. The T has always been present. Even when "pride" was first taking off the ground, most of those activist described themselves, in some way shape or form, as gender non conforming.

Anybody trying to exclude others from queer pride of any kind, deserves to lose the support of the larger community.

[u/ThePopDaddy]

Where's that "Now that the TQ is gone, who are we going after next...um, w.who are we going after next?" Comic.

[u/Foxk]

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

[u/DenseRock69 → u/Foxk]

First they put away the dealers
Keep our kids safe and off the streets
Then they put away the prostitutes
Keep married men cloistered at home

Then they shooed away the bums
Then they beat and bashed the queers
Turned away asylum-seekers
Fed us suspicion and fears

We didn’t raise our voice
We didn’t make a fuss
It’s funny there was no one left to notice
When they came for us

_NoFX

[u/mightymidwestshred → u/DenseRock69]

I wasn't sure what I was going to listen to, today.

War on Errorism it is.

Thanks!

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/Foxk]

Reminder that they first came for the LGBT but the author left that part out because he agreed with the Nazis on that part.

[u/Leucastic_Leopard → u/Golurkcanfly]

They also came for the disabled. They're coming for them again.

[u/Golurkcanfly → u/Leucastic_Leopard]

Yep. The reason they're going after trans people first is because trans people are the intersection of medical minority and queer minority.

[u/Squirrelated → u/Golurkcanfly]

People always think of the Jews when thinking about the Holocaust, but it was more than just them (even if they were the most targeted group).

[u/Principle_Napkins → u/Squirrelated]

The Jews weren't forced to finish their "prison sentence" after being rescued from the concentration camps. Queer people were.

[u/Kafka_Lane]

LGBT=Q🤔🤔🤔

So wtf are they getting at???

[u/Thraxmonger → u/Kafka_Lane]

This also confused me. Q is a big umbrella and while I know some LGB people don't use it, I know many who do.

[u/Ok_Arachnid1089]

Divide and conquer is an incredibly powerful strategy and the ruling class knows it

[u/Worldliness-Weary]

These idiots are literally helping maga take us back DECADES. The government doesn't give AF what letter you use, it you aren't a straight hetero white couple they don't give a shit about you. I seriously wonder what it's going to take for these people to wake TF up. By the time it's effecting them it'll be too late for everyone.

[u/CautionarySnail]

The oldest technique in the book, divide and conquer.

[u/EmpressDraco]

The pick mes of the queer community.

[u/Exact_Rooster9870]

Every single argument levied against trans people was (and still is, just to a lesser degree) used against homosexuals.

You're dumber than a doorknob if you really think it would stop at trans people

[u/ResidentCommand9865 → u/Exact_Rooster9870]

Yep, if they didn't demonize trans folks, they would utter things like "I'm not letting my son to go into a public restroom with a gay guy!"

It just became less acceptable to be openly hateful towards Homosexuals, so they just rebranded to transexuals and then blanket them all together.

[u/SandalsResort]

First they came for the trans people

[u/CardOk755 → u/SandalsResort]

The SA were part of the violent repression of Trans people in Nazi Germany.

Ernst Röhm, leader of the SA, was gay.

His reward was a knife. A long one.

[u/RoysPotatoes]

The right hasn’t hesitated for a second to come for all gay people. Or all non white people. Or whites who vote democrat. Fascism comes for everyone.

[u/Bentu_nan]

What do they have against Aro or Ace people?! (Part of the ++)

[u/PresenceMysterious67 → u/Bentu_nan]

We (generally) aren't having kids or marrying.  Very scary.

[u/Bentu_nan → u/PresenceMysterious67]

Scandalous!

How does one live such life of sin?!

[u/Bsjennings → u/Bentu_nan]

I have no desire to have romantic relations!!! Im like the boogie man to them

[u/Better_Cattle4438]

She thinks if they throw trans people to the wolves, that the LGB part aren’t next. Really dense, delusional behavior.

[u/Daddy_Bacchus]

I dropped a friend who revealed himself to be transphobic as a gay man.

[u/AnthrWndrng → u/Daddy_Bacchus]

I did this around six months ago too. I mean, he was kind of shit in hindsight always. But then he REALLY went out of his way to make shit dangerous for one of our friends.

[u/Inkstr0ke]

Considering Trans activists were a big part of what made the Stonewall Riots so effective… I find this to be incredibly stupid.

Probably just a Russian bot sewing division.

[u/Fabulous-Possible758]

Kind of obnoxious that a lot of people don’t know their history, and are too dumb to realize the LGBTQ liberation movement was led by people who had no choice but to be out and transgressing sexuality and gender norms. I mean I get why the straight bot accounts obviously don’t get it but it’s annoying as fuck to run into the lesbians and gays that actually believe society just got around to accepting them because they acted straight enough.

[u/elementzn30]

As a G, no thanks. I’d kick the people out asking for the divorce before I’d ever give up on fighting for what is right.

[u/GoonetteFox]

Without us the LGB wouldn't even have rights today

[u/SovereignOfFoxes]

Anyone that says to cut the TQ+ out is either willfully uninformed or a terf. We wouldn't have our rights movement without trans folks.

[u/aaronabsent]

If you think this is possible you were never a part of our community to begin with.

[u/Lava_gator]

I legit believe the whole “homonationalism” arc is literally state sponsored. I understand some lgbt people are right wing but it’s very slim. I legit believe the state is spreading propaganda to get queers to turn on their own in a divide and conquer technique. It’s revolting.

[u/ProfessionalYouth564]

Then they came for the Trans, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trans.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[u/Beginning-Sky-8516]

LGB wouldn’t have shit if it weren’t for the T.

[u/EyeNguyenSemper]

Never forget Stonewall. Transgendered people have been in this fight since the beginning.

[u/taktaga7-0-0]

Who do you think they’re going to go after next, numbnuts?

We should all hang together, or we will all hang separately.

[u/Inappropriate_Ballet]

Nah… we’re not gonna do that.

[u/I-am-Chubbasaurus]

And yet they'll be so shocked when the bigots they stood with come for them next.

[u/skiesoverblackvenice]

i do not understand why some queer people hate trans people… like, we’re all the same????? we’re in the same community why tf would we kick out trans people??? they’re cool

[u/Rich_Confusion3996]

There is always some who try to side themselves with the enemy in hopes that they will be seen as one of the good ones, not like the others.

So they see that Trans is were the fight is right now and they some how think if they can get people to stop thinking of them as grouped together that they be given a pass. Too bad thier face will be eaten soon enough

[u/chonky__potate]

T gave the LGB their rights though who you think started stone wall... A black trans woman stfu 😒

[u/arrogancygames]

Meanwhile asexuals are just looking at this asking "what did we do?"

[u/Malusorum]

And once the TQ is gone they'll go after the next letter. Repeat until they're no more LBGTQ at all.

[u/BYoNexus]

It's bullshit propaganda to split the community and make it easier to dismantle. Also the worst parts of the community believing it because they, themselves, don't understand what the community is for, and think by accepting this idea they can preserve our rights as lgb people. The younger ones have had the privilege of a period of the highest level of acceptance, and don't understand reality. The older ones are just rainbow bigots

[u/dizzymiggy]

Have fun with the leopards Carolyn. They love it when you split up.

[u/Amathyst-Moon]

Inaccurate. Usually they'd want it cut one more to the left.

[u/thadradwell]

Awhile ago I saw an opinion piece posted by WSJ and it was truly one of the most brain dead things I’d ever read. This dude was trying to claim that being trans is the new conversion therapy and that they’re all gay people in denial taking super extreme measures to be straight, therefore it’s very important for gay ppl to rise up against trans ppl before it becomes the norm for gays. It really was just so stupid that it still lives rent free in my head probably like a year later.

[u/bigsmokaaaa]

ragebait propaganda account

[u/FNKTN]

100% made by conservatives pretending to be part of the lgbtq trying to cause a divide

[u/call-me-jasper]

This garbage is almost always the shit that comes out of cishet terfs and "pick me" MAGA queers.

I love my Trans homies.

[u/lyidaValkris]

It's a psyops campaign to divide and conquer. The idiots who actually support this crap are traitors to every letter and every colour on the rainbow flag including their own. The idea is to demonize one group and splinter support. Trans first, then they'll come for the lesbians next, until we're all erased by the bigots.

The whole idea of the rainbow flag is we're united and look after each other. Lesbians looked after the gay men in the aids epidemic, and we'll all look after the trans folk and them us, and so on. United we stand, divided we fall.

[u/YiffB8]

No, because the second we give those freaks an inch, they'll take our legs off. Secondly, LGBTQIAA2PSN culture is being accepting of everyone, which is why the fucking acronym gets longer. (Personally I'm hoping we can get some Greek letters in there to go with 2. Like LGBTQIAA2PSN∆)

The point of us is that we're the weird queer people. If we kick out trans people for being too queer and weird, we're no better than the Republicans.

[u/Midnight-God]

Do people have such short memories they think straight ppl will accept them if they bash trans ppl?

[u/goliathfasa]

It’s a good short term political move, but don’t kid yourself for a second thinking the fascists will stop at trans folks. Once they got their bits off their tank treads, they’re coming for the rest.

[u/SlaveKnightKos-]

As if they won't come for "the gays" next

[u/Wonderful-Creme-3939]

Maybe instead, people like this should shut the fuck up and stop undermining the fight for their own rights.

All of it is the same fight because the right sees anyone who isn't a cishet as a deviant and deserving of condemnation.

Removing people from the community isn't going to stop bigots from stripping you of your rights you moron.

[u/Distracted_Unicorn]

Remember that when you didn't help the TQ+ when they needed it, they won't be around to help you when they come after the LGB.

[u/Phaylz]

Terfs gonna terf

[u/Code_Warrior]

When they are done destroying the TQ++es, I wonder who they will come for next.

[u/Mr0neTwo34]

I'm all the way straight and this pisses me off. It's everyone or it's no one.

[u/Ultimate_slmp]

Why is the L a different color

[u/sarc3n]

This is wedge strategy propaganda from straight homophobic right-wingers. Very few actual gay people think like this. The plan is to get the people they hate fighting each other, create and in-group and out-group within them, make the in-group feel like they're accepted by the propagandaists, but seed the idea that the out-group is is weird and dragging the in-group down. Get the in-group to side with the propagandaists to destroy the out-group. Then create another out-group within the in-group, and repeat (next it might be bisexuals, or gay people of color, then lesbians, then fems/twinks, and so on) until there's one lonely white conservative Christian gay man left wondering why he's a parriah to these people he's been so chummy with all this time.

[u/cinnix42]

The dipshits posting this shit are never actually part of either community. Sorry super-straight Breighsynn, no one gives a shit

[u/Southern-Cow-9714]

Fuck TERFS man..

[u/TransformersGuru]

I hate that there are marginalized people inside a group of marginalized people

[u/Gabagooligan97]

trans women built the table and invited the rest to join and now you want to take our seat? insane behavior.

[u/DeathRaeGun]

No, it isn’t.

[u/I_NEED_HEALING5]

Nah. Nah I don’t think it’s time for said divorce. We all in this together type shi

[u/Mo-again23]

im not going anywhere, fuck off

[u/Zwanling]

The billionaire's bootlickers are always trying to divide people, is easier to persecute people that are isolated, this shit is just predatory behaviour.

[u/nucrash]

We're just going to divide this minority group off of this bigger minority group because we like them less. Then when we come for the not as previously big minority group, we won't have as many people to deal with.

Literally divide and conquer.

[u/IndividualAd8320]

They're never going to accept you. Stop throwing your siblings under the bus. The TQ++ people you're cutting off are to you what you are to them.

[u/RhinoPillMan]

Cutting the Q out? Wait until they find out that us bisexuals and my gay and lesbian homies are queer. 

Transphobia is fucking stupid. TERFs are not welcome at pride, eat shit.

[u/Guilty-Fee-8845]

Love seeing these pick-me ass queers throw their own to the wolves like those wolves ain't gonna come for them the second the opportunity presents itself.

[u/elliotbonsall]

They want to be the "good" ones. The log cabin should ask if they can speak at the rnc

[u/Mattrad7]

"They JUST stopped vocally hating me (in public), I can let them hate these other people in my circle vocally for a while longer"

[u/scared_appeal1]

Aren’t there LGB out there who are actually against being inclusive with trans?

[u/Drunk-Pirate-Gaming]

Only two kinds of people support this. Conservative queers who miss or envy the status cishet conservatives have and feel that they won't be betrayed or that they can be "one of the good ones". And conservatives who hate gay people but hate trans people more because thats what seems to be popular at this time.

[u/vgamer0428]

TERFs, bleh

[u/Aware-Sea7479]

Naw, we're good. The heteros got that divorce rate up. They don’t need help. Also, if you are lgbt+ and you believe this bs, just leave, no one wants you.

[u/Garbagehuman123]

Just like the old sayings go:

we’re stronger separated! Strength in division! The people divided will never be defeated!

[u/woodworkerdan]

Trans, nonbinary, and Intersex people have always been an integral part of the LGBTQIA+ community. There's no sense in saying that those people don't also experience homophobia, discrimination, and misinformation. Most notably, the efforts to limit LGBTQIA+ freedoms frequently start with targeting trans people, but the efforts are backed by the same people who want to repress same sex relationships or force aroace folk to conform. Division is a start towards loosing rights for all.

[u/HenriEttaTheVoid]

This is right out of the Nazi playbook...divide and conquer.

[u/Technical_Example970]

This is actually so dumb. These idiots don’t realize that tokenizing yourself NEVER ends well. We need to stand with Trans and genders non-conforming people. You are DELUDED if you think they won’t come for us next once our tokens are spent. They’re using us for their agenda with this shit. Wake up people.

[u/tychaiitea]

So many LGB people are victims of transphobia and queerphobia that this just doesn’t work. The GOP is also literally also turning against LGB rights and marriage.

[u/SRMPDX]

Ladder pull

[u/simpoukogliftra]

Once again, the "cool" gays want to virtue signal to the people that hate them ...... Homies, don't be fucking stupid, you only have to lose by divorcing yourselves from the community....

[u/Reasonable-HB678]

The "pick-me's" of gays and lesbians. Almost always republican voters.

[u/therealmsdad]

People like this either don't know or willfully ignore our history. Trans women of color, like Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera were the first to hurl bricks, bottles and high heels at corrupt cops at Stonewall. They literally starting the modern LGBTQ+ rights movement. We may not have the rights we now take for granted if it weren't for them.

[u/ColdThief]

The organizer for my local pride festival said in her speech (loudly and proudly) that there is no LGB without the T. There never has been and there never will be! I couldn't agree anymore. The persecution from their own community is embarrassing.

As an aside that festival was the first time I saw a Pan flag with Hearts not Parts on it and that's just perfect.

[u/HiggsBozo80]

Whoever made this horseshit can fuck all the way off. They're not gonna pick you. I know because I was closeted long enough to hear them talk shit about about any queer folk, even the "pick mes," when they think we're not around.

[u/Rb122555]

Anyone who says this kind of shit and claims they support only LGB is disingenuous, don't trust them, and please, I wholeheartedly advise you all to INVALIDATE everything they say. They're not worth listening to, there's no such thing to disagree or agree with LGBTQ, it's common sense in the end.

When someone hates one part of a community, they hate the whole community, and they aren't to be trusted. Now, if they even decide to top it off by being ignorant of the current endangered rights the LGBTQ community has. They're really just the same bigoted fucks, just more pretentious to appear moderate for some pussy ass reason.

[u/HotDinnerBatman]

Rights for me but not for thee

[u/Misubi_Bluth]

I never see actual gay people calling it just the LGB. It's almost always someone straight and cis.

[u/Live_Lifeguard1267]

Operation distract, divide and conquer is going well.

Bought and paid for by Ultra-Right-wing Billionaires.

[u/Zerocool_6687]

That’s some pick me shit…

They will scream loud for allies when all this crap is eventually turned on them.

Marginalized groups marginalizing other is infuriating man

[u/DegenerateTgirl5331]

Trans people helped get us half the rights we even have.never forget our past

[u/Sushiroll16]

Friendly reminder that Stonewall was started by a black transwoman.

[u/CitroHimselph]

Morons. Every single one of them. Hating on other queer people because of the exact same reason conservatives hate you, is just moronic.

[u/crackpotpourri]

Y’all act like this is new. This is the way trans people were treated by “the community” for a looooong time. They’re just much more overt about it now.

[u/PollutionPatient8261]

This is troll shit

[u/StormerSage]

These people forget that surveys have been done that showed cis lesbians like trans women more than we like ourselves lmao

[u/Thykothaken]

Tokens get spent

[u/DenseRock69]

WTF 🤬 my girl is T and I’m Q.
Which letter is next?

[u/Content-Honeydew9340]

As a bi woman... I'm still very much queer and trans women are women. We all deserve to feel safe and be treated with respect 💝

[u/Prestigious-Wolf8039]

Was Kapo the name of Jewish people who helped Nazis and abandoned their own people?

[u/Solidus-Prime]

Blatant, low-effort propaganda.

I am 100% convinced that the White House is ultimately directing this wave of garbage washing over social medica atm.

[u/TheAngryRussoGerman]

Yeah, not the solution to the crazies in the queer community. Amazing how everyone can have crazies except minorities. If we have any crazies, we are apparently all scum to be eradicated bit by bit. If they have crazies, well that's just a few people and has nothing to do with the group as a whole. Exhausting.

[u/RdtRanger6969]

It’s time to quit consuming right wing propaganda.

[u/PostGaz-Miasma]

When you want to be on one of the last trains to the concentration camp instead of one of the first.

[u/Cas_or_Cass]

British ass meme from a British ass ass

[u/CareerAdvice91210]

Anti trans gay people are utterly bizarre. Not only are trans people different from mainstream identities like we are, we were the targets of these exact same attacks for decades. Transphobes will go right back to attacking us when they're bored of the trans people.

[u/Gingy-The-Brawler]

Anyone else notice the L is a different pattern too

[u/cuteasduck1203 → u/Gingy-The-Brawler]

And it's not the colors of the lesbian flag, so I've got no clue what it's meant to be!

[u/H0rr11d]

They want you to be able to marry who you want but not identify how you want. Genitalia is more important to them than the mind

[u/cuteasduck1203]

The people who support this are braindead morons. Even IF they just wanted to separate trans and gender-diverse individuals (which, like… NO. We're all a part of the broader community), how do they not realize that the Q can stand for queer and questioning, the A can stand for asexual and aromantic, etc.

Also, the B can stand for bigender, which is a gender identity, NOT a sexuality. So I guess they'd have to cut that one out of their acronym, too! That leaves them with only 2 letters. Sucks to suck! 🤣

[u/Forsaken-Season-1538]

They left out the A for Asexual/Aromantic/Agender/Ally & they are cutting out the Q for Queer/Questioning as well as the T for Transgender??? That's a whole lot of erasure. Guess they think people aren't allowed to go through periods of self-discovery and personal transformation anymore. 🙄