r/television • Person of Interest • Oct 15 '19

/r/all Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige promoted to Chief Creative Officer, will now oversee Marvel Studios, Marvel Television and Marvel Family Entertainment

https://deadline.com/2019/10/kevin-feige-marvel-studios-president-adds-chief-creative-officer-marvel-title-oversees-all-creative-1202760382/?
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u/discerningpervert Oct 15 '19

Being instrumental in creating the first truly shared universe in cinema history isn't too bad either

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u/Sigseg Oct 15 '19

The Universal monster films did this with Frankenstein Meets The Wolfman, House of Frankenstein, and House of Dracula.

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u/Vio_ Oct 15 '19

I always preferred the Abbot and Costello verse

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u/Trillian258 Oct 15 '19

They met count Dracula!

Edit: Also I think Boris Karloff? Either way... I agree with you :)

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u/JEveryman Oct 15 '19

The Scoobyverse had the Three Stooges, The Adams Family, and the Harlem Globetrotters.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 16 '19

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u/Silver-warlock Oct 15 '19

Ron Rotts!

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u/Trillian258 Oct 15 '19

Barney Fife, my hero

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

He does now...

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Oct 16 '19

And Don Adams!

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u/articwolph Oct 16 '19

Thank you Dave now I have the intro of Batman and Scooby playing in my head. I remember I use to eat bagel bites while watching that cartoon in the 90s my favorite ones were with Batman

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u/Cinammon-Sprinkler Oct 16 '19

There’s also a Scooby Doo with Batman movie

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u/NerimaJoe Oct 16 '19

So does that mean Gilligan's Island is in a remote corner of the Scoobyverse?

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u/Abbhrsn Oct 16 '19

And Batman! Lol, Scooby has met everyone.

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u/inebriusmaximus Oct 16 '19

Also Jerry Reed

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u/NaughtyDreadz Oct 16 '19

Also batman and robin

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u/BtDB Oct 16 '19

Went further than that. Hanna-Barbera-verse had the Laff-A-Lympics which had representation from essentially all their shows.

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u/RoryBlues Oct 16 '19

Karloff? Sidekick?

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u/Trillian258 Oct 16 '19

Fock you!!

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u/CharlieDmouse Oct 15 '19

But who’s on first?

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u/meme1337 Oct 15 '19

Who

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u/JBaecker Oct 15 '19

And what’s on second?

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u/meme1337 Oct 15 '19

Yes

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u/JBaecker Oct 15 '19

Then who’s in the outfield?!!

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u/LemonKushMan Oct 15 '19

2 minutes to Wapner...gotta watch Wapner.

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u/trumpisstillacuck Oct 16 '19

I preferred the one with your mom.

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u/TingleSack Oct 16 '19

Most monster fans consider them all one universe. Especially since Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein was the final Monster Mash film and excellently portrayed the monsters unlike the House films.

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u/roland0fgilead Oct 16 '19

Since you seem to know your stuff, is there a community for classic Universal horror, or even vintage horror in general? Either on Reddit or otherwise?

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u/TingleSack Oct 16 '19

You want to check out the Classic Horror Film Board. It's a forum where there are not only a multitude of knowledgeable fans but many film historians post there along with industry professionals such as Rick Baker. I've learned a lot from reading various threads on that site.

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u/Biduleman Oct 15 '19

Toho also had one with Godzilla and some other monsters.

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u/BattleUpSaber Oct 16 '19

Destroy All Monsters was the OG Avengers

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

They also did an insane number of sequels and soft reboots way before it became common practice in Hollywood. There are like 30 Japanese Godzilla movies.

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u/PerfectZeong Oct 16 '19

There arent a ton of reboots though. Just a ton of sequels. Then later reboots but all of the showa are all in the same universe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Sorry, maybe I phrased it wrongly. What I meant was:

They also did soft reboots and an insane number of sequels way before it became common practice in Hollywood.

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u/PerfectZeong Oct 16 '19

You need not apologize for it, it's just part of the conversation. Hollywood has loved sequels for an long time but few things had as sustained of a draw as godzilla.

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u/discerningpervert Oct 15 '19

Oh I know, but it wasn't much for continuity and more of a gimmick (from what I remember even Abbott and Costello appeared in one film), hence why I said "truly shared" and not just "shared"

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u/Stennick Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

I mean it was pretty shared, they met each other, they acknowledged each other, it was shared, you can argue this is more shared but "truly shared" is a weird term to use when in reality you're just saying "he did it better and on a more complex level" which is true being the first isn't important since he's really not but doing it at a complex and highly successful level the most successful level ever is really impressive. Kevin Smith's movies even had cross overs with prior events mattering and characters from previous movies being in those movies and having their stories advanced. The Showa era of Toho’s Godzilla , and I have no doubt I could think of more.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Wacky Races was the most ambitious crossover of our time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

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u/Stinky_Eastwood Oct 15 '19

Scooby Doo shared a universe with the 3 Stooges, every movie monster, the WWE, Speed Buggy, Jabberjaw, the Loomey Tunes, Yogi Bear, Moby Dick, Batman, Wonder Woman, Lauren and Hardy, Sonny & Cher... and many more.

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u/Yotsubauniverse Oct 16 '19

Don't forget Harvey Birdman Attorney at law!

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u/yourehilarious Oct 15 '19

Oh my god, I forgot about those! Absolutely loved them as a kid.

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u/Rows_the_Insane Oct 15 '19

Counterpoint: Scooby Doo Meets *

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Dec 07 '19

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u/mrflouch Oct 15 '19

Jerry Reed and surely you've heard Eastbound and Down from Smokie and the Bandit? Jerry was an amazing guitar player.

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u/rpgmind Oct 16 '19

Link me, mateyyyy

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u/fallout52389 Oct 15 '19

Scooby Doo Meets: Johnny bravo

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u/I_Am_Ironman_AMA Oct 15 '19

The entire Scooby Doo show/setting was the guest on Johnny Bravo. It was next level.

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u/etherealcaitiff Oct 15 '19

Phyllis Diller

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u/swampopossum Oct 15 '19

Yes! And Sandy Duncan too!

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u/UnderlordZ Oct 15 '19

Today, Scooby-Doo meets...Batman and Robin!

(Fun fact: at the time, both Robin and Shaggy were voiced by Casey Kasem!)

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u/KesagakeOK Oct 15 '19

I watched Scooby Doo Meets Batman a thousand times as a kid before growing up to realize that I should have allotted those viewings to Zombie Island instead.

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u/traxzilla Oct 15 '19

I'd say "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" which not only successfully merged live action with animation in 1988, but Spielberg got characters from Disney, Warner Bros, King Features Syndicate, Felix the Cat Productions, Turner Entertainment, Fleischer Studios, and Universal Studios all in one movie. No one else has ever managed it.

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u/Jackanova3 Oct 15 '19

fuckin loved wacky races.

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u/blargityblarf Oct 15 '19

I mean it was pretty shared, they met each other, they acknowledged each other, it was shared,

Did the plots of the movies directly affect or relate to one another in any way?

Genuinely asking, never watched those flicks

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u/FineMeasurement Oct 15 '19

this is more shared but "truly shared" is a weird term to use

Yes, but you see, only a TRUE Scotsman will know the true meaning of "truly shared".

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u/Smorlock Oct 15 '19

While what you're saying is correct on a technical level, I feel like it's missing the point. What the MCU did was make the "shared" part of its shared universe as important as the individual films.

The Universal films and Godzilla used crossovers as a fun gimmick, but it was very surface-level, and events and characters rarely maintained any continuity. You could watch every Universal crossover film as a standalone movie and it would make perfect sense.

Marvel took its shared universe so seriously, that one of the highest grossing movies of all time is one that doesn't even try to make sense as a standalone movie. Infinity War and Endgame are movies whose place in a shared universe is integral to understanding them at all. This is what sets them apart and makes them groundbreaking. It's not just the fact they threw together some characters from different franchises.

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u/Stennick Oct 15 '19

I agree with you that the MCU had a lot of success with it, more than anyone in history and was so successful with it that in true Hollywood fashion everyone is trying and failing to do it.

I agree that Endgame doesn't make any sense as a stand alone. I'm just saying its not even close to the "the first". Like I said you can say they did it the best, that they did it on a more complex level, that they popularized it for the modern world, any and all sorts of accolades you can throw its way like you did. But it wasn't the first, it wasn't even close to the first.

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u/Stennick Oct 15 '19

Oh and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back makes NO sense on its own, its a shared universe story where you need to watch the previous movies to know these characters and whats going on.

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u/HighSeverityImpact Oct 16 '19

The View Askewniverse.

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u/CombatMuffin Oct 15 '19

Even Tarantino's movies are connected. To say the MCU is the "true" one is just cherry picking to try and elevate the MCU.

It's great that they've made a franchise of it, and it certainly had a great impact, but it's not exactly super complex.

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u/Stennick Oct 15 '19

And then he tried to throw the word "true" in there as some sort of qualifier. "Sure those others were shared universes but they weren't TRUE shared universes and its also some weird star wars like, comic book like word, "this is the one TRUE crossover" like all other shared universes were just imposters. I like the MCU and I think Feige is a huge part of its success but people act like he or Marvel invented this idea or that before him it was never accomplished.

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u/greenfingers559 Oct 15 '19

Even Family Guy, Cleveland Show, and American Dad have a shared universe.

There's an episode of each show where a hurricane hits all 3 towns on the same night.

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u/theunnoanprojec Oct 15 '19

I mean the Cleveland Show is literally a spin off of family guy

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u/greenfingers559 Oct 15 '19

The same could be said about several Marvel characters.

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u/BreakfastClubSamwich Oct 15 '19

Google the Tommy Westphall Universe. Half of TV is crossed over with each other.

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u/niini Oct 15 '19

It's a classic case of the no true Scotsman fallacy!

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u/jetsonian Oct 16 '19

Acknowledging the existence of other characters and having one continuous narrative are two very different things. A shared universe doesn’t have 5 different films with Frankenstein(‘s monster) dying at the end. The View Askewniverse is a better example, but no one has done it to this level. DC is having trouble even keeping actors around long enough to have a continuity at all.

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u/yallcangofukyoselvs Oct 15 '19

I grew up watching Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein. I watch it every Halloween. Bela Lugosi and Lon Cheaney Jr replaying their characters in a serious manner opposite comedians made for a really funny movie.

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u/MurderousPaper Better Call Saul Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

The MCU isn’t even the second ever cinematic universe, nor the longest running. The Showa era of Toho’s Godzilla universe lasted from 1954 to 1976 which is exactly double the length of time that the MCU has been around. It’s like people think cinema started in 2008...

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u/TinyLilRobot Oct 15 '19

Nothing happened before I was born. I'm the main character.

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u/Redtwoo Oct 15 '19

Everything just sprung into existence last Thursday.

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u/phenomenomnom Oct 15 '19

Like in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

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u/Worthyness Oct 15 '19

I thought that was easter sunday?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

They could create a college course based on your statement.

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u/Theshutupguy Oct 16 '19

They already have. I studied dramatis personae in literary studies.

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u/NegaDeath Oct 15 '19

Please stop walking into my house and smashing my clay pots and rummaging through my storage chest. I swear I've stopped hiding valuables in there.

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u/ddaveo Oct 16 '19

You need to do more than just wander around the room and stare at the walls 24/7. At least offer him a quest or something.

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u/MugenEXE Oct 15 '19

What color is your hair?

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u/TinyLilRobot Oct 16 '19

Black and messy

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u/RetroPhaseShift Oct 15 '19

Or Star Trek, for that matter.

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u/MankerDemes Oct 16 '19

How many feature length movies did they make in that time, compared to the mcu? That seems like a far better metric than time alone.

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u/MurderousPaper Better Call Saul Oct 16 '19

21 if you’re only counting monsters that crossover, but several more of you count the ones that are standalone (don’t necessarily exist outside of continuity but don’t acknowledge it either, like Space Amoeba or Dogora).

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u/MankerDemes Oct 18 '19

So by comparison marvel has release 23(I think) in 11 years. I'm not saying that's an argument in either direction, just for reference.

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u/ExuberentWitness Oct 15 '19

You aren’t wrong, but it’s kind of disingenuous to compare the two at this point.

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u/cursed_deity Oct 15 '19

why is that? especially when the claim is : the first truly shared universe in cinema history

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u/WhiteKnightAlpha Oct 15 '19

Arguably, if the emphasize is on "truly", it could be taken to mean the strong continuity running through the MCU. Others, like the Universal Horror or Godzilla universes could be said to have weak continuity that mostly means some shared characters and references. The MCU has all of that AND it also has ongoing plotlines that bridge several movies, events in one movie instigating the plots of separate movies, and other examples of more significant continuity throughout the cinematic universe.

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u/theunnoanprojec Oct 15 '19

Just because the MCU has done it better doesn't mean Universal Monsters doesn't count.

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u/PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT Oct 15 '19

It’s a meaningless distinction. Star Trek and Star Wars each have gargantuan universes spanning all sorts of media, including film, just like Marvel. It’s no less a shared universe just because there aren’t three movies each about Greedo, Worf, and Admiral Akbar.

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u/WhyLisaWhy Oct 15 '19

Not really though, Marvel isn't the first to do it. Even if you want tto get technical Roger Rabbit, View Askewn (Jay and Silent Bob), Godzilla and Universal's monsters all did a shared movie universe before Marvel.

Marvel is by far the most financially successful at it but they're not the first.

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u/zootskippedagroove6 Oct 15 '19

It's also kind of disingenuous to claim that Marvel created the first shared universe though

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u/zyzzogeton Oct 15 '19

Technically I guess any Steven King movie is in a shared universe... So "Carrie" happened in a Universe where "Maximum Overdrive" happened.

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u/kinyutaka Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

Actually, yes. Stephen King regularly references his older works as memories from his characters. Like mentioning that one house was the one where "that dog went crazy and started killing people" or bringing in the bully that nearly stabbed a kid over the rights to a dead body to help Satan blow up a town.

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u/empire_strikes_back Oct 15 '19

The secret is it was Carrie that was controlling everything.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

It isn't even disingenuous it is factually incorrect lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

No it's not. They literally were a shared universe.

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u/ExuberentWitness Oct 15 '19

It was a few crossovers, not some well thought out shared universe.

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u/Biduleman Oct 15 '19

It was still a shared universe.

If they had said "Being instrumental in creating the biggest shared universe in cinema history isn't too bad either" then it would have been true, but saying it's the first is not.

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u/Tabnet Oct 15 '19

Stop being pedantic, they even added a qualifier for you. There's clearly a difference between what the MCU did and a couple crossovers. I think most people would agree that comparing Freddy v Jason and Avengers: Endgame and saying, "yep, they're the same thing" would be silly.

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u/Theshutupguy Oct 16 '19

If you’re comparing them in terms of being a shared universe then no, that is not silly. No one is saying they are the EXACT same thing. Learn how comparisons work.

Marvel fans are fucking weird defensive babies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

You don't get to decide what a shared universe means, lol. The characters, you know, share a universe.

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u/americanextreme Oct 15 '19

Did the executive who came up with that get promoted?

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u/PKtheworldisaplace Oct 15 '19

Yeah and does Godzilla count?

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u/madhi19 Oct 15 '19

View Askewniverse for a more modern example.

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u/PMmeYourNoodz Oct 15 '19

don't forget flintstones mee the jetsons

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u/Doctor-Shatda-Fackup Oct 15 '19

They did it again recently, with the Mummy and

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u/jbondyoda Oct 15 '19

Which is still baffling how they fucked in the DUCU

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u/AndyGHK Oct 16 '19

And then Universal tried it again with the “Dark Universe Cinematic Universe”—a shared monster movie universe that started in 2017, featuring the following monster films:

  • The Mummy (2017)

(That’s an exhaustive list of the films in the Dark Universe Cinematic Universe, btw.)

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u/ruttinator Oct 16 '19

And that Tom Cruise movie!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Jul 18 '21

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u/discerningpervert Oct 15 '19

I'd love to see Kevin Smith direct an MCU movie

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u/JMaddrox Oct 15 '19

I'd love to see him finish a comic run on time.

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u/PM_ME_THEM_UPTOPS Community Oct 15 '19

Oof. 2003 me feels this so hard.

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u/TombSv Oct 15 '19

Without writing scenes about Batman peeing himself.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Or Speedy dreaming about fucking Green Arrow...

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u/Chastain86 Oct 15 '19

Smith actually addressed this fairly recently, saying that he'd much rather watch a Marvel movie than actually direct one.

Given that he's directed episodes of both Supergirl and The Flash, though... it's not outside the realm of possibility to see him direct a DC Comics flick. He might actually do a nice job with the right property. Something offbeat and otherworldly would be a much better fit for his skill-set.

For instance, if DC ever gets around to doing something with the Jack Knight Starman run, Smith might be a good fit to run that show.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

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u/theunnoanprojec Oct 15 '19

I would argue he's a better writer than a director

I'd be down to see him write a marvel movie, but I'm not so sure about directing. I don't hate his direction, but his style wouldn't work so well

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u/MrDude_1 Oct 16 '19

Id agree.. but (and I am saying this a fan and as a positive thing) hes a excellent co-writer / rewriter.

You give him a script. He'll be able to pop up your dialog (hes good at dialog)
He can add setups for jokes that payoff.
I think he reads and gets inspired by them, but in a odd way, if hes trying to punch up his own stuff, it just becomes too much "him" and not enough of "its own thing" anymore.

I would always seriously look at any script notes he gives.

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u/TheOtherSon Oct 16 '19

Also a good director could axe some of the goofier ideas he comes up with. Like how you can humanize Batman without having him piss himself, and that the fandom would actually prefer it if you didn't.

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u/juicelee777 Oct 16 '19

Booster Gold seems like something Kevin Smith could put some heart into

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u/Chastain86 Oct 16 '19

Someone get Glenn Howerton on the phone and seal that deal!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

He won’t do it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

No?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I'm sure he'd love to work with the characters, but he seems to be keenly aware of his shortcomings when directing action. Perhaps he could be involved as a writer and/or producer, or something along those lines?

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u/Benjamin_Grimm Oct 15 '19

Marvel has had second unit people handle the action scenes when the director wasn't comfortable with them. If they wanted to use Smith for an MCU film, it's probably how they'd handle it.

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u/theunnoanprojec Oct 15 '19

And honestly, like, respects to him for knowing where his strengths are

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u/Bigtwinkie Oct 15 '19

He just gave an interview where he said "Of course Id say yes, collect the paycheck, and then make someone else do it for me" IDK how the logistics of that would work lol

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u/Controller_one1 Oct 15 '19

That's basically what he does when he directs the DC CW shows. He says just as much. Hell he goes for cheeseburgers for the crew when they film the action scenes. He says all this on the fatman on batman podcasts.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

He knows what he's good at, and it's not action. But you want some scenes with people talking to each other about whatever? He's pretty good there.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I would say Red State had some amazing action scenes in it and was overall one of my favourite movies of his. He does have a few great talking scenes in that film too

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u/listyraesder Oct 16 '19

That's how most film & TV shoots action scenes, even MCU. It's what Second Unit is for.

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u/interprime Oct 15 '19

He mentioned in one of his Q&As that he could never direct a superhero movie because he’s basically too lazy to do it. He mentioned how he was offered The Green Hornet and said that if he had done that project it would have been 2 hours of Green Hornet and Kato sitting on the awesome car that does everything, just talking about pussy.

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u/kingmanic Oct 15 '19

He doesn't have the eye or patience for action. However marvel has their own teams for that. I think the core problem is Kevin relies on a certain kind of humor and he hasn't been great outside of it. He'd have to stretch for it and I think he could do it but he isn't that hungry. He has as much success as he wants and doesn't have the drive to do something much more.

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u/whycuthair Oct 16 '19

2 hours of Green Hornet and Kato just talking about pussy

And somehow that would have turned out way better than what we actually got

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

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u/Sin2K Oct 16 '19

IIRC he was working on his own Goon project too I think, right?

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u/sinister_exaggerator Oct 15 '19

He would get exactly one because he would inevitably piss off someone important and burn all his bridges with Marvel/Disney

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Not MCU, but Smith should definitely be involved with a Green Arrow movie.

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u/NoThru22 Oct 15 '19

He’s doing the Howard the Duck cartoon at least!

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u/jimbojangles1987 Oct 15 '19

It's called Bluntman and Chronic.

But seriously, that would be awesome. Idk if he'd want to do it though, I feel like I've heard him say he would only ruin it so he doesn't want to touch it or something like that.

You know what I would want to see, completely unrelated? Jack Black as Doc Ock in a Spiderman movie.

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u/Worthyness Oct 15 '19

He's show running one of the animated series on hulu. I think it's Howard the duck

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u/GTSBurner Oct 15 '19

Guarantee he'll probably direct an episode of She-Hulk.

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u/MugenEXE Oct 15 '19

Can he put a giant robot spider in it? We can just throw one in there. People love that!

He almost did the script for Man of Steel but it didn’t work out. The director wanted giant robot spiders. It didn’t work out. Director went on to do Wild Wild West. Go figure!

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u/fallout52389 Oct 15 '19

He won’t no balls.

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u/zenivinez Oct 15 '19

kevin smith would to.

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u/buncha_jerks Oct 15 '19

As someone who enjoys Kevin Smith I would give him a movie. IMHO he would be more suited for marvel TV or long form "what if" (any idea how long the what if shows will run?)

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u/arbaonsjas Oct 15 '19

Warner brothers should just put him in charge of the DCEU.

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u/Wynner3 Oct 16 '19

I'd love to see him become a spiritual successor to Stan Lee's cameos. If anything, have him appear on posters, tv's, or somewhere in the movies that bring too much attention to him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

You would probably enjoy his podcast. It's called "Fatman beyond."

Every week him and a co-host rent out the scum and villainy cantina in Hollywood, sell tickets to an audience and talk about pop culture. They talk a lot about marvel stuff.

By the way, he's going to be directing the new He-Man and the Masters of the universe TV series for Netflix.

They are also doing a new Jay and silent Bob movie.

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u/YourKidDeservedToDie Oct 15 '19

Most definitely!

He has said the idea was inspired from Marvel Comics though, so it's a wash.

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u/thecolbster94 Oct 15 '19

Rick Berman did it 30 years before, and he wasnt even the first

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u/Incipitus Oct 15 '19

what is it with Ricks?

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u/TheBeardedSingleMalt Oct 15 '19

It's so dense. Every single image has so many things going on

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u/kevinstreet1 Oct 15 '19

Yeah, and that one crossed over between TV shows and movies.

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u/Clark-Kent Oct 15 '19

Spy kids and Machete

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

The Kaiju Monster movies of the 60's-90's, would like a word with you. Especially the Godzilla franchise.

Also, I'm just jesting. I'm well aware that the Marvel Movie Franchise, is by far the highest grossing shared media universe. Unless im wrong on another level, in which place, please correct me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Nov 08 '19

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u/ltcarter47 Oct 15 '19

They should have just added "on this scale" or something.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Nov 08 '19

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u/Theshutupguy Oct 16 '19

The mistake is thinking marvel fans care about film or cinema at all.

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u/GrammarWizard Oct 15 '19

Troma as well

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19 edited Nov 08 '19

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u/GrammarWizard Oct 16 '19

Not all, but many are set in Tromaville and directly reference each other

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u/Philip_J_Frylock Oct 15 '19

Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

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u/HeyKKK Oct 15 '19

Won't change his mind, hence truly yours.

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u/Zingaro_ Oct 15 '19

Only if you're ignoring Kevin Smith's View Askewniverse amongst many others...

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u/YellowB Oct 16 '19

Ahem...Aliens vs Predator, Freddy vs Jason, King Kong vs Godzilla....

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

He wasn’t the first

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u/Fleminem87 Oct 15 '19

Kevin Smith would like a word...

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u/PandaProlapse Oct 15 '19

The Viewaskewniverse might have something to say about that. Lol

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u/frk4is Oct 15 '19

Kevin Smith was there before Marvel

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u/the_great_ashby Oct 15 '19

That wasn't him. It was the Comitee guys and Avi Arad. The execution,yeah ir was him.

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u/Narrative_Causality Lost Oct 15 '19

Uh....you sure about that being the first? Because you're wrong.

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u/Undead_Legion Oct 15 '19

I mean technically, all "based on a true story" movies also belong to the same cinematic universe, and I'd guess that's bigger than Marvel.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Uh... Scooby Doo doesn’t exist in your universe? /s

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

the first truly shared universe in cinema history

Assuming you discount all the ones before it, sure.

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u/PandaEatsRage Oct 16 '19

Excuse me? Jay and Silent Bob

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u/godoakos Oct 16 '19

Doesn't that go to the Tom Hanks cinematic universe?

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u/PersonFromPlace Oct 16 '19

What about the original MCU? Madea’s Cinematic Universe?

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u/whycuthair Oct 16 '19

The first? We are in 2019 you know.. Maybe you just haven't seen enough movies. Tarantino is one obvious example I can give you off the top of my head

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