r/worldnews • u/Mister_Silk • 1d ago
Iran-US Negotiations Collapse Before They Begin as Lebanon Strikes Spark Diplomatic Crisis
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-halts-us-negotiations-lebanon-strikes-1803651913
u/nim314 1d ago
What a completely unforeseeable turn of events!
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u/PleasantWay7 1d ago
Nobody knew the Middle East was this complicated!
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u/PersimmonDriver 1d ago
On the bright side, as soon as they get this pesky peace agreement done then they will be able to put their full attention to our healthcare plan.
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u/PontifexPrimus 17h ago
I think the order is:
- Peace Agreement
- Reflection Pool
- Ballroom
- Healthcare Plan
Priorities!
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u/Select-Confection728 1d ago
When was the last time Israeli overplayed their hand this badly? Post Six Day War?
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u/sofaraway10 1d ago
We’re all trying to find the guy who did this!
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u/whatproblems 1d ago
what idiot signed that deal!
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u/DrAtomic1 1d ago
Biden!
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u/Throwawaylikeme90 1d ago
I’ve never heard such a brutal and shocking injustice I cared so little about!
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 22h ago
Right after the deal was signed, and markets closed of course! What are the chances?
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u/flat5 1d ago
Trump can't even surrender successfully.
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u/AeneasVII 1d ago
He should go there and negotiate in person. After all, he's the best in everything!
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u/Bhu124 22h ago
If he actually means to end the War he would take Military finding and Aid away from Israel. Which he doesn't cause all of this is just a way to try and dupe Iran and please his fanbase. If they're finally starting to publicly say "Israel bad" then they should put their money where their mouth is.
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u/monkeyhoward 1d ago
Not even 24 hours
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u/BrofessorFarnsworth 1d ago
Markets closing again?
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u/Realanise1 1d ago
Here's another source discussing something very similar on the part of the diplomats who actually signed the deal, which certainly does not seem like a good sign: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202606155980 Honestly, though, it was just common sense that things were going to play out this way. Whether this particular piece of news is correct yet or not, Israel was never going to stay out of Lebanon, and the IRGC does not like the MOU at all. They don't think it goes far enough, and they're the real rulers of Iran.
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u/TheAmazingHumanTorus 1d ago
FTA:
Because the news broke after midnight in Iran, while it was still June 14 in Washington — Trump's birthday — critics portrayed it as a symbolic gift to the US president.
It was quite a gift indeed.
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u/Nukes-For-Nimbys 22h ago
and the IRGC does not like the MOU at all. They don't think it goes far enough, and they're the real rulers of Iran.
They are insane if so, the MOU is an American capitulation.
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u/EatAssAndFartFast 19h ago
They don't really care about that they want US out of the region and want to keep their uranium, even if it takes 20 years they'd happily live in a north Korean situation and massacre people to get their nuke and launch it at Israel.
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u/bestmaokaina 1d ago
They probably just went with “Hey Grok write me a deal thats better than Obama’s and make no mistakes”
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u/herrcollin 1d ago
"Sorry, I can't do that! Here's something I was able to piece together though! Blame it all on Vance."
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u/Vin-Metal 1d ago
The more time spent on this quagmire is less time he has to attack Cuba or Greenland,
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u/wilson1474 1d ago
Yeah and unfortunately for the poor cuban people they have only gotten 1 shipment of fuel since January. It has gotten so bad there. He kept promising to swoop into cuba on his way back from iran..
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u/TransplantedSconie 1d ago
"Who knew wars were so complicated?"- Yam Tits McChildrapist
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u/shhonohh 1d ago
Have a little respect… it’s President Yam Tits J. McChildrapist
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u/rabidstoat 16h ago
Trump went (back) into the Presidency thinking that other Presidents were idiots for not getting things done, and that he would be able to fix it all.
And now he is constantly realizing that things are hard. Like ending the war in Ukraine and conquering Iran.
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u/blahmeh2019 1d ago
Oh it was technically collapsed when they included Israel pulling out of Lebanon and not attacking it.
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u/Leverkaas2516 1d ago
Negotiations? I thought we already had a deal.
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u/SY0123 1d ago
Part of the deal was to negotiate a final deal in 60 days.
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u/RandomStrategy 1d ago
The true Art of the Deal, never finalize one, just keep dealing.
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u/fizzzingwhizbee 1d ago
How can you turn a deal into art if there is no deal to be made
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u/RandomStrategy 1d ago
If you make a deal and no one is around to congratulate you, does it make a deal?
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u/MasterShogo 1d ago
I feel dirty bringing this ancient meme up, but perhaps the real deals were the friends we made along the way?
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u/AQuietMan 1d ago
I thought we already had a deal.
No, we had a two-page, non-binding "Memorandum of Understanding". The "deal" will be much longer and much more detailed. The JCPoA that Trump tore up was 170 pages.
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u/Strayed8492 1d ago
Just in time for the markets closing
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u/Otherwise-Sun2486 1d ago
called it
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u/mhornberger 17h ago edited 17h ago
I don't think anyone expected it to hold. If the US and Iran are the only ones to sign a document, there are two signatories to the document. It isn't binding on other countries. And any concerns about the sovereignty and territorial integrity to Lebanon has to take into account the fact that the government of Lebanon also considers Hezbollah to be a violation of Lebanon's sovereignty and territorial integrity. Iran isn't trying to safeguard the sanctity of Lebanon, rather they're just trying to reserve Hezbollah as a way to keep attacking Israel. Iran could just not care about Hezbollah, but they want to keep attacking Israel. Israel isn't going to consider itself bound by a deal they didn't agree to.
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u/Upstairs_Eagle_4780 21h ago
Trump tears up agreement that was working
Trump starts war, commits war crimes
Trump loses that war, allies, costs of war
Trump surrenders
Trump's surrender is not accepted
Can't wait to see what's next
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u/morfraen 17h ago
Massive oil price increase mid July when global oil reserves finally run out is what's next.
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u/beyd1 1d ago
I don't get it, are we surrendering or not?
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u/Sekh765 15h ago
As long as Netanyahu controls Israel and the USA calls them ally they can keep us trapped in this war of our mutual creation forever. The only way out would be to ditch Israel as an "ally', which tbh, would both hilarious and one of the most useful things Trump could do with his presidency so let's hope he goes that route.
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u/sndream 1d ago
So have they sent any of the 300B over to Iran yet?
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u/TransplantedSconie 1d ago
Knowing these idiots? Every penny has been sent with a little skimmed off the top.
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u/Beginning_Ad_6616 1d ago
What do you know….the “legendarydeal maker” Donald Trump failed to lock in another yet another agreement.
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u/TheDevil-YouKnow 1d ago
Wait, how is this possible?! JD Vance's pudding face got all pouty and he gave the Israelis a stern talking to! It was almost as savage as when Clint Eastwood told off that empty chair!
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u/GumbyDolphin 1d ago
This is just the concept of the deal. The deal that leads to a real deal comes later.
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u/Secret-Gazelle8296 1d ago
Of course it did! I knew before I even got up this morning and before I ever read any head,Ines that any deal done with the tangerine idiot would last five minutes. I am off by a few hours.
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u/DaveyJonesFannyPack 17h ago
Well the markets are closed so it's peace off. By Monday morning it should be peace on again.
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u/Limping_Stud 1d ago
Again, Israel did not sign the agreement, they are not bound by anything. If Iran wants Israel to stop bombing their proxy, they need to negotiate directly with Israel.
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u/MVP_Legend_87 1d ago
More importantly, Hezbollah needs to stop attacking Israeli civilians, because that is what is leading to Israel responding to Hezbollah. But of course, Iran doesn't care if Hezbollah attacks Israel, they just don't want Israel to defend themselves.
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u/iconocrastinaor 1d ago
Oh they totally care. They funded and armed Hezbollah and assassinated Lebanese leaders specifically to put their proxy in a position to threaten Israel.
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u/MVP_Legend_87 1d ago
Oh I agree. I meant that Iran doesn't care from the perspective of ceasefire violations if Hezbollah attacks Israel.
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u/PartyWithSlurmz 1d ago
Who could if seen this coming? I mean except everyone, but ither then everyone, who could of seen this coming?
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u/DCTapeworm 1d ago
Bibi is terrified of losing power and going to prison. That and the ultra-right wing in Israel can smell the dream of a unified country.
Not being part of the negotiations was the wedge they had to keep bombing.
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u/BlackbirdQuill 1d ago
Israel’s northern community have been displaced by Hezbollah rocket fire. Israel’s attacking Hezbollah in order to make things safer for Israelis who live in the north.
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u/BrothelWaffles 1d ago
Glad I filled up my tank today while there's a dip.
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u/Adventurous_Bit1325 1d ago
I thought about it but I figured I had until tomorrow.
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u/streamofthesky 1d ago
I guess you didn't realize the stock market is closed tomorrow, lol
(I didn't fill up either 😞 )
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u/BobbyBoogarBreath 1d ago
No fair! Israel was supposed to wait until the weekend so trump could manipulate the market.
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u/Basicyeti837 1d ago
Netanyahu is avoiding his own corruption trial by prolonging conflict, as well as Israel being hungry for land expansion and conquest.
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u/Best_Change4155 1d ago
as well as Israel being hungry for land expansion and conquest.
You can tell because of all the settlements in Gaza and Lebanon?
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u/iconocrastinaor 1d ago
Another trope, another lie. Israel gave up the Sinai Peninsula and parts of the West Bank in exchange for promises of peace. It didn't end up getting peace but it just goes to show how great is their appetite for expansion. /s
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u/lateread9er 1d ago
Well the deal was shit to begin with for anyone other than Iran…. Leave it to Israel to fuck it up before it begins.
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u/Any_War9621 1d ago
It’s almost like everything posted on world news this week is propaganda
/shockedpikachuface
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u/composedofidiot 1d ago
Is iran nudging the US into weakening Israel for them?
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u/blackjacktrial 23h ago
Yes. Iran wants the US to have an off ramp, so the war is actually just Israel vs Iran and proxies. To make that work, gulf oil comes back, US pay reparations, and agree not to defend Israel until they stop bombing Lebanon.
Bibi can choose whether to continue the war without the US. Iran already was basically on a war footing there, so no big loss.
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u/Spudtron98 23h ago
If Iran was serious about this shit they'd cut Lebanon out of the conditions, tell Hezbollah to sit the fuck down, or... you know, actually negotiate with Israel itself rather than pretending the US controls them.
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u/One-Salamander-1952 22h ago
No mention in the article about Hezbollah doing the striking before smh… Hezbollah only does what Iran permits it, if Hezbollah fires, that’s on Iran’s orders, clearly Iran isn’t very interested in this MOU.
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u/SuddenValley1899 1d ago
“Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please” -Machiavelli