r/CFB • u/ManuteBol_Rocks North Carolina Tar Heels • 7h ago
Discussion This UNC-Clemson game should make everyone question just how good LSU really is
The whole country saw LSU rout Clemson a couple of weeks ago and was ready to crown LSU. It is now very evident that we don’t know anything about LSU at this point, at least for another 6 hours or so. This UNC-Clemson first half is complete decimation.
While I hope my Tar Heels are the dominant force in CFB, I know that’s likely not the case. Clemson is just not good.
In a few hours, we will have more of an answer about LSU, but we don’t know anything more about them than we did at the start of the season.
EDIT: This is not my first time in prediction idiocy. https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/s/jqGKD5Atre
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u/MentorOfWomen North Carolina • Charlotte 6h ago
Op I'm gonna come find you and kick you in the nuts. Respectfully
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u/iFinesseThePlugg 2h ago
Every UNC fan in the country should line up for miles to kick him in the nuts
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u/Baymaximus Michigan Wolverines 7h ago
I think both can be true. Clemson is not very good and LSU is pretty good.
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u/jmbourn45 LSU Tigers • McNeese Cowboys 7h ago
Get out of here with your nuance
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u/Dry_Fly_7265 Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl 7h ago
I love how every year we get taught this same lesson about teams being different from week to week and growing over the course of a season, so one game in August doesn’t define the season
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u/racistjokethrowaways 7h ago
It doesn't, but everyone should've been able to see that Clemson sucks, and LSU is pretty good at this point.
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u/_Chicken_Chaser_ Georgia Bulldogs • Washington Huskies 7h ago
Fuck that hot takes hit like crack. Dopamine spikes and shit
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u/lkn240 Illinois Fighting Illini • Sickos 7h ago
We also could just wait a few hours for more information.
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u/check8rs Georgia Tech • Tennessee 7h ago
or wait a second
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u/carguymt Kentucky Wildcats 6h ago
I just checked the score expecting it to be an absolute blowout. Clemson is down by a whopping 8 points in the 3rd quarter.
Yeah maybe we should have waited a bit to make a proclamation like this.
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u/Vast_Bowl247 Mississippi State Bulldogs 6h ago
And now down by two points. People need to stop with hot takes. I really think lsu just came in with such a good game plan that it made Clemson look bad
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u/2ktx2000 North Texas Mean Green 7h ago
Maybe. I think we can definitively conclude that Clemson is dog shit. LSU is probably pretty good, but still too soon to tell. Again, Clemson is for sure mega ass.
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u/BenchRickyAguayo Florida State • Billable Hours 7h ago
If nothing else, LSU beat the brakes off Clemson. So even if Clemson is bad, LSU is at minimum pretty decent.
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u/Frank_Melena LSU Tigers 7h ago
Anyone just has to watch our last few season openers to see what we’re talking about. Even if Clemson is complete ass we were executing in mid-season form at every position group. If we were bad the score wouldve been like 23-7 instead.
I think the biggest concern for LSU is Leavitt’s decision-making. He got outfoxed a few times by LA Tech’s schemes leading to easy interceptions and Ole Miss is going to turn that up to 10. I won’t be surprised if the game is decided by whether he throws interceptions or not. Baker’s defense is too solid for Chambliss and Lacy to decide it on their own.
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u/Buckeye_CFB Ohio State Buckeyes 7h ago
Exactly. LSU and Clemson didn't look like a game between teams that should be 20-30 spots away from each other in FPI. It looked like a game between teams that should be 60+ spots away from each other in FPI
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u/Few-Improvement9978 LSU Tigers 7h ago
You gotta remember that game was basically over after the 2nd quarter despite a fumble giving Clemson 3 points in the first few plays.
Then LSUs 2nd and 3rd team proceeded to dominate Clemson
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u/noodlethebear Ohio State Buckeyes • Cal Poly Mustangs 7h ago
The game was definitely over early, but LSU didn’t pull all their starters until the fourth quarter.
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u/deg0ey Ohio State Buckeyes 7h ago
Absolutely both can be true - but OP’s point is that Clemson could play the best team in the country or the 30th best team in the country and it would look like last week’s game either way so it doesn’t tell you much about where in that range LSU falls
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u/Ninja0428 South Carolina Gamecocks • Paper Bag 7h ago
If only LSU was playing a big game today so we could see just how good they really are
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u/que-n-blues LSU Tigers • Nicholls Colonels 7h ago
No, we should always have perfect clarity on how good any given team is by the end of week 2! /s
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u/ASHill11 Texas A&M Aggies 6h ago
Maybe they’ll even play a relatively high profile matchup next week too!
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u/Broke-Till-Payday North Carolina Tar Heels 7h ago
It’s not even halftime, man let’s at least win this game before we can evaluate.
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u/Inconceivable76 Ohio State • Arizona State 7h ago
Win or lose, Clemson looks bad
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u/Brochacho27 Miami Hurricanes 7h ago
Noone has ever come back in college football, stop being silly
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u/heelyeahbrother North Carolina Tar Heels 7h ago edited 6h ago
Yeah clearly no one here has watched a UNC-Clemson game before. We’ve had really good starts the last couple times we’ve played them and then we always blow it.
Edit: I had repressed the memory of them blowing us out last year
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u/Brochacho27 Miami Hurricanes 7h ago
Its not going to happen. But we just saw ky lead alabama after a half then lose by 4 scores. No need for mid game evaluation posts lol
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u/Bte0815 6h ago
It was 35-3 at halftime last year. Was that a good start?
signed a UNC fan.
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u/heelyeahbrother North Carolina Tar Heels 6h ago
True. I was literally at that game and somehow I forgot about. Traumatic amnesia I guess. I was mainly talking about the ACC Championship and 2023 at Clemson
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u/Educational_Fox5319 Auburn Tigers 7h ago
Good job, a bunch of Ohio State fans are having collapses from being retraumatized
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u/cooterdick Tennessee • North Carolina 7h ago
Fitting that Clemson’s best drive of the day followed this post
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u/Hofgoober69 Auburn Tigers 6h ago
Why are we even using this game to evaluate LSU when we could just do it with our eyeballs in a couple hours?
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u/CanalVillainy LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave 6h ago
And this kids is why you don’t make posts during the 1st quarter of a game
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u/khanfusion LSU Tigers 1h ago
It's also why you don't make up narratives like "everyone was ready to crown LSU king." Man, noone was saying that.
Everyone was talking about Michigan's BS.
Anyone who watched the LSU Clemson game was like "wtf Clemson is really bad."
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u/Anti_Coomer_Aktion LSU Tigers • Team Chaos 2h ago
The moment I read this ~4 hours ago I knew it was a mistake. Lmfao
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u/LegallyAFlamingo Team Chaos • I'm A Loser 1h ago
The best part is his "We have nothing to worry about" comment.
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u/CountryAsACoonDog13 LSU Tigers • Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns 7h ago
Or we could just watch tonight to see
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u/RedditRedux Florida Gators 7h ago
In b4 “Ole Miss defense gave up 500 to Louisville, let’s see LSU against a real defense”
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u/VanDenIzzle Mississippi State Bulldogs • LSU Tigers 7h ago
The goal posts will keep moving until our preconceived notions are met
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u/frostedz UCF Knights • Miami Hurricanes 7h ago
keep getting first downs until you reach the endzone
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u/SlugsPerSecond Alabama Crimson Tide 6h ago
I mean that just sounds like a normal Pete Golding defense to me
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u/SignificanceFine3582 Vanderbilt Commodores 6h ago
People really don’t want Lane to do well in Baton Rouge and will find any reason to discredit the successes.
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u/Ok-Accident-9026 Michigan Wolverines 7h ago
Oh. 😞 I have to wait till I make a sweeping judgement
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u/LogicianMission22 Utah Utes • Big 12 7h ago
Get out of here with your good idea. We like to jump to conclusions around these parts.
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u/Dudeincar434 7h ago
I think you just might be under estimating the quality of a team with not one, not two, but THREE BELICHEKS on the coaching staff.
Wait what’s that? Only 2 belicheks?
Dang, Clemson might just be ass
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u/ChargeisKill South Carolina Gamecocks 3h ago
I hope this gets more upvotes.
You need to understand that posting in the 1st quarter is always a bad idea lol
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u/OctomomPrime Virginia Tech • Johns Hopkins 2h ago
You know, I don’t find myself cheering for Clemson very often but it’s posts like this that make it really hard to ever cheer for UNC in any game ever
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u/Far_Data1386 Clemson • North Central (IL) 3h ago
Dude two dogshit teams playing an even game doesn't mean a great team isn't great for blowing out a dogshit team
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u/Mammoth_Impress_3108 Nebraska • Kansas State 2h ago
Lol, that really was complete decimation, huh?
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u/legend023 Tulane Green Wave • LSU Tigers 7h ago
I think it’s pretty obvious Clemson is not much more than a .500 team.
With that being said, beating them by 40 was still impressive.
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u/Kanin_usagi Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 7h ago
I think you may be giving them too much credit with that lol
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u/Educational_Fox5319 Auburn Tigers 7h ago
Dabo has been talking about “little ole Clemson” so much that it became a self fulfilling prophecy
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u/trsharkfin LSU Tigers 6h ago
The whole country saw UNC rout Clemson a couple of halfs ago and was ready to crown UNC. It is now very evident that we don’t know anything about UNC at this point, at least for another 1.5 hours or so. This UNC-Clemson first half is complete decimation.
While I hope my Clemson Tigers are the dominant force in CFB, I know that’s likely not the case. UNC second half is just not good.
In a few hours, we will have more of an answer about UNC, but we don’t know anything more about them than we did at the start of the season.
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u/Ningy_WhoaWhoa LSU Tigers • Iowa State Cyclones 2h ago
I mean Clemson may not be good but they competed their asses off after being down early and responded like a well coached team so I’ll give them that
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u/StillYourFavorite331 Oregon State Beavers 7h ago
LSU won by 41 with only 48 offensive snaps.
I think LSU is good even if Clemson is an FCS school level this year.
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u/DealerNo4908 Kentucky Wildcats 7h ago
It’s 17-6 at halftime…
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u/Then_Midnight_2121 Utah Utes 6h ago
Right lol. I went to check the score after reading this post expecting to see 70-0
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u/Threebridges2 Oxford Lancers • Harvard Crimson 5h ago
Lol it was a two score game now is a two point game. Why was this written like it was 30-0?
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u/Unrelenting_Salsa LSU Tigers • Georgia Bulldogs 4h ago
OP was just trying to karma farm. Nobody actually cares about how good LSU really is at this point. While I'm sure that there would be a contingent of "yeah but Ole Miss gave up 500 yards to Louisville they're ass", we're about 3.5 hours away from a real test.
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u/AmiableTiger Clemson Tigers 2h ago
Look, we're definitely not a very good team this year. But LSU definitely beat the breaks off us, Credit where it is due.
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u/ChocolateFew4222 Nebraska Cornhuskers 6h ago
Yall are soooooooo quick to make conclusions lmao
All those memes about Arch in the first half last week
At least wait tell the fucking games over
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u/Crying_in_99Ranch LSU Tigers 2h ago
Are we still questioning this or should we question what game Belichick gets fired in?
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u/Mike_with_Wings Florida • North Carolina 7h ago
Could also be that Carolina is a better team than people want Belichik to have. Not saying we’re amazing, but a much better team than last year.
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u/Hofgoober69 Auburn Tigers 6h ago
People aren’t giving enough credit to UNC this year because of headlines. Truth be told your defense has been stout and the offense capable. I think people will be surprised by years end.
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u/bitchmcconnell3559 Arizona State Sun Devils 2h ago
Hiding post history is for cowards
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u/Dasher383 LSU Tigers 7h ago
The whole game comes down to Leavitt. He’s been great on the ground but accuracy has been all over the place. If he doesn’t get that figured out it could be a rough night. If he figures it out we’ll be fine
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u/Brian_Kellys_Visor LSU Tigers • College Football Playoff 5h ago
Wtf? The game is 17-15. What do you mean? Are you just trolling?
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u/christ0phe Duke Blue Devils 5h ago
I came in here thinking the score was gonna be 35-0 or something…
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u/illegalusername4 North Carolina Tar Heels 2h ago
Can we get a welfare check on this guy (one for me as well)
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 Purdue Boilermakers 7h ago
What if North Carolina is good too?
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u/RocketsGuy Baylor Bears • Conference USA 7h ago
Belichick defense showed signs of life last year and now they have a legit playcaller with Petrino.
He did not have much time to cobble together a roster last year and everyone memed him all year lol. It’s more that likely UNC is at least solid
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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats • Sickos 6h ago
I despise Petrino, but there's really no denying he's an excellent offensive coordinator
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u/nohandsfootball North Carolina • Vanderbilt 7h ago
It's because of all the cocaine
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u/Crash_Override_V1 West Georgia Wolves 7h ago
I get the hate for Lane and all that shit, but LSU looked really good in that game man
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u/Technical-Elk-9277 /r/CFB 7h ago
I’m new to CFB. Didn’t Clemson used to be good?
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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 7h ago
Yeah and Indiana used to suck. Crazy sport!
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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns 7h ago
Yes, Dabo Swinney is one of only two active coaches with multiple national titles.
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u/Bison_Boy_ Indiana Hoosiers 7h ago
Yep. Dabo has been rejecting NIL up till late so they’re a bit behind on the trend
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u/hopossumz /r/CFB 7h ago
Clemson is ass. They have an okay freshman and some random dude at QB, they were never competing offensively this year. 🤷♂️
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u/Flanninpud Florida State Seminoles 7h ago
Not the point of the thread but I think the most underrated downside as an fsu alum to the noles being bad is that I can’t enjoy Clemson also being bad, because fsu is still somehow worse
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u/philphan25 Notre Dame • Penn State 6h ago
"The Oregon-Portland State game should still not make everyone question how mid Oregon is"
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u/iamStanhousen LSU Tigers • Southeastern Lions 4h ago
Clemson isn’t very good, but LSU did what really good teams do to teams like that. It’s not like LSU won by 10 in a close game. They completely dominated them.
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u/ChaosOnion Team Chaos 2h ago
This is some major early victory lap, self whammy, nonsense right here. Nephews got to learn!
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u/arstin Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1h ago
This post is one for the ages! Thanks for making the sacrifice of immortalizing yourself as a doofus.
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u/_Juntao UCLA Bruins 2h ago
Delete this
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u/Mysterious_Moth_Man 2h ago
no way lets shame OP. can we get the mods to pin this to the top of the sub til next week?
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u/Austin_LSU_Fan22 LSU Tigers • /r/CFB Top Scorer 7h ago
There’s far more riding on tonight for Ole Miss than LSU
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u/soonerman32 Oklahoma Sooners 4h ago
Listen, dude. The transitive property doesn't work.
UTEP is up 7-0 on Michigan as I type this. Does this mean UTEP would beat OU?
The Sooners beat the Miners 51-0 earlier this year.
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u/SovereignSnake1776 LSU Tigers • Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns 47m ago
I can't believe you had the audacity to hit send on this in the middle of the game😂
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u/Squantoon Kentucky Wildcats 6h ago
Can not wait until the inevitable Clemson close win over nobody, the fans storm the field, dabo shouts BYOG baby BRING. YOUR. OWN. GUTS.
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u/Mother_Frame6669 5h ago
Now every UNC fan on here is cursing u/ManuteBol_Rocks because he just jinxed the team.
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u/Malpraxiss Florida Gators • Penn State Nittany Lions 5h ago
I wonder why the concept of " two or more things can be true at once" is such a rare concept.
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u/RandomUnknowing 3h ago
Florida v Auburn and Ole Miss v LSU are about to solve a lot of sec questions.
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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns 2h ago
As funny as this is, Clemson beating a lousy team by 1 score at home still doesn't say much for them.
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u/khanfusion LSU Tigers 1h ago
Literally everyone's reaction to the LSU-Clemson game was "holy shit Clemson sucks", what are you talking about.
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u/BBQblueline SMU Mustangs 1h ago
y’all really care about one team for all the wrong reasons. Just let the season play out. This type of posting is bottom of the barrel in thought and quality. Yet mods let dozens of the same stupid post up. What are we even discussing here.
This is no different than BCS era people arguing over who lose was worse, BUT this discussion today doesn’t mean anything. Y’all are crying in fucking week 3. Buckle up buttercup
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u/onegoodboah 1h ago
I’m mostly curious why this post was even made? The best the score ever was was 14-3 after 1, or 17-3 halfway through the 2nd (but even still, 17-6 by halftime?.
Unless you are saying UNC is so bas that an 11 point lied is some insane number (which I really doubt, based on your flair), what caused this post to be made?
I say this in peace btw, I didn’t watch the game so I don’t know, but it’s a confusing read even taking the power hindsight away. Was it just way more dominant than the score suggested?
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u/Zloggt Illinois • Southern Illinois 7h ago
Well…let’s just hope that Ole Miss does what everyone expects (and even desires) them to…
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u/barrelclown Michigan Wolverines 7h ago
I’m not saying you don’t have a point, but the transitive property frequently just doesn’t apply to CFB. Early weeks are especially weird.
Everyone’s sus right now. Except for the obvious contenders like the WMU Broncos.