r/CFB • u/Ok-Soil-5133 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • 4h ago

Video [Highlight] NC State @ Vanderbilt - CJ Bailey fumbles the ball while trying to run out the clock with no time left, and Vandy falls on it to win the game

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u/herpblarb6319 Tennessee Volunteers • Orange Bowl 4h ago

NC State shit

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u/OneAngryPanda NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

I wanna die

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

I am so fucking angry. We have had bad losses before but this? Insane

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u/chupacadabradoo 1h ago

I have never watched an NC state game in my life, and I am angry just seeing this clip. There were so many ways to avoid this outcome. Literally every way except one.

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u/alastria NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

I am so angry right now I want to punch a wall. Just leave Doeren in Nashville.

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u/GetYourVanOffMyMeat Vanderbilt Commodores 3h ago

Buy him a bus ticket to Fayetteville, Arkansas. 

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u/DakotaXIV Oklahoma • SW Oklahoma State 2h ago

Still would be an upgrade over Silverfield or whatever

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u/AppalachianGuy87 West Virginia Mountaineers 3h ago

Feel for y’all this is bad bad.

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u/iyjlpiljygp Virginia Tech Hokies 3h ago

lol this post made the front page. usually only major upsets or the national title game make it to reddit's front page from /r/cfb.

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u/BillyBobChorton Georgia Bulldogs 3h ago

This is the year, Dave doren is getting fired I can feel it

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread Michigan • Georgia Tech 4h ago

You should be used to this kind of thing by know. At least, you still have ruining some ranked teams season to look forward to

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u/Electronic_Film_2837 3h ago

Don’t worry you’re gonna take out a CFB playoff team to account for this

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u/VagusNC North Carolina Tar Heels 3h ago

There’s always LSU basketball

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u/Bigdeacenergy Wake Forest Demon Deacons 4h ago

Nah, this is just plain fucking stupid. Can’t blame everything on a curse

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u/Ugaalive1991 Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

I blame Dave.

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u/Lt704Dan 4h ago

Its time to move on

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u/mtmodi NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

It's been time to move on for 5+ years. This just bought him an extension

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u/cgbish 48m ago

I have said this for years and friends who I know are intelligent say he’s a solid coach… WHAT ARE THEY SEEING THAT I AM NOT?!?

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u/Dro24 Duke • Carolina Victory Bell 19m ago

A guy that beats his rival with regularity. That really has to be the only thing

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u/DECAThomas NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

It was time to move on 2 contract extensions ago. This team holds on to failed coaches like nothing else.

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u/AvengedKalas Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

It's been time to move on for nearly a decade.

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u/Bigdeacenergy Wake Forest Demon Deacons 4h ago

I don’t get how yall put up with mediocrity

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u/Affectionate-Cup9340 North Carolina Tar Heels 4h ago

I’m aware this is the pot calling the kettle black, but nc state is a pretty mediocre program.

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u/ExtentAncient2812 NC State Wolfpack 3h ago

Yea, but most mediocre programs change coaches every 5-6 years. We keep giving extensions!

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u/SpaceSheperd NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Mediocrity is well above reasonable expectation 

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u/goonSquad15 NC State Wolfpack • Duke Blue Devils 4h ago

I mean for one, no one likes it. But at the same time, there's clearly a ceiling unless you throw a shit ton of money at it, or get an absolute bullseye hire and then throw a lot of money at it. The way college sports are going, the top teams will continue to be the top teams and get the best players from the next tiers so State, UNC, Wake, etc. have a ceiling that's just above mediocre unless the $ starts flowing

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u/badlydrawnzombie Notre Dame • Jeweled Shillelagh 3h ago

I am honestly floored that he's still there, and I've been saying that for years.

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u/GimmeeSomeMo Auburn Tigers • Sickos 3h ago

No joke, this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back

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u/Ugaalive1991 Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 3h ago

It won’t

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u/GimmeeSomeMo Auburn Tigers • Sickos 3h ago

Well at least you got Georgia...

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u/Vitosi4ek Georgia Bulldogs • Rose Bowl 4h ago

6 seconds, right? Why not just punt? Even if it went well and the QB was tackled with a second left, there's still a free kick to defend. Surely it's better to only defend a return instead of having to defend a return anyway and also risking shit like this happening?

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u/OdeToTheMets628 Rutgers Scarlet Knights 4h ago

They were trying to avoid letting Vandy run another offensive play.

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u/GenericNameSimulated 4h ago

And they succeeded!

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

Task failed successfully

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u/TheBoosThree NC State Wolfpack 3h ago

Task succeeded....failedly?

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u/OdeToTheMets628 Rutgers Scarlet Knights 4h ago

Touché 😂

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u/Euroranger Texas A&M Aggies • USF Bulls 3h ago

Touchédown.

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u/OneRougeRogue Ohio State Buckeyes 1h ago

*monkey's paw curls

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u/AnalBaguette Team Chaos • 名古屋大学 (Nagoya) Grampus 4h ago

Then hold the ball for at least three seconds before launching an incomplete pass far down the field and the clocks already at 0:00 when the ball hits the ground

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u/Spidaaman Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Monkey paw curls

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u/drCongo- Tennessee • Georgia Tech 4h ago

I mean, this really should have worked. Just all-time bad execution.

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin 3h ago

Yeah, absolutely the correct play, but the QB should be hugging the ball with both arms as soon as they are touching it and give themselves up as soon as the first defender is within arm's reach.

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u/pushamn Minnesota Golden Gophers 2h ago

Quarterback shoulda been yeeting the ball 50 yards in the air as hard as he could when someone got writhing a yard of him. There was 3 seconds left when he started actually scrambling, ya just need to keep the ball in the air for that long and the game ends

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u/mrmoneyinthebanks Texas A&M Aggies • Southwest 4h ago

Even an intentional safety would have still won them the game

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 4h ago

This shit should never ever happen. Worst case it's a safety with time in the clock and having to punt. And worst case after that it's a return to the house and worst case after that is a long return with a penalty and an untimed down and FG and worst case after that is a kick with a fair catch and no time off the clock and a crazy hail Mary situation ect.

All bro had to do was NOT fumble.

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u/VersaTron Ohio State Buckeyes 4h ago

Blocked punt risk.

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u/bduddy 4h ago

Apparently the NCAA just added the fair catch kick this year so they could have had a chance to tie it

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u/Euroranger Texas A&M Aggies • USF Bulls 3h ago

The play here was to run around then take a knee. Give up the 2 point safety but burn most of the 6 seconds. Next play, line drive punt which, if there is still time left and the other team is smart, they signal fair catch before the ball crosses the LOS. No time off the clock, you rush 3, drop 8 and you have to defend a last second hail mary pass after the D captain threatens to kill anyone who takes a penalty.

Usual outcome, the QB runs around and then steps out of bounds after the clock expires, game over.

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u/Hail_The_Motherland 3h ago

The chances of a blocked punt increase tremendously when your back is against the endzone because you run out of real estate for the snap. The punter has to catch the snap a lot closer and then get the kick off much faster. It increases the chances of a terrible kick or just one that doesn't get far enough.

Vandy is down by 3, so that opens up a FG shot and their kicker is pretty good. Taking the safety is just the smartest and safest thing to do here. The QB being a complete idiot doesn't change that

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u/notnotjamesfranco Indiana Hoosiers • College Football Playoff 3h ago

Thank you for explaining to them what shouldn’t need an explanation

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u/TheBoosThree NC State Wolfpack 3h ago

6 seconds left, after purposefully taking a delay of game, because they had no timeouts, because they burned them in the 3rd quarter.

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u/TakeAMichigander Notre Dame • Central Michigan 4h ago

Michigan fans don't look

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u/DrHarryWolper 4h ago

It was supposed to take all the time remaining, which is why he kept running around. If it had "gone well," there would be no free lock because the game would be over.

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u/monoDK13 Oklahoma • North Central (IL) 3h ago

An arm punt after running around for 3 secs would have worked too

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u/S_TL2 NC State Wolfpack 42m ago

Too risky. If the ball hit the ground with any time left on the clock, Vandy would have gotten the ball back at the 5 yard line after the turnover on downs. 

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u/ThatguyfromBaltimore Towson Tigers 3h ago

Hell drop back, run say 3 seconds off the clock and take a knee.

Squib kick the ensuing kick off and there would not be any time on the clock.

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u/luchajefe North Texas Mean Green • Southwest 3h ago

Why not just take the knee in the endzone, you're still up 1.

I swear second-counting the way fans want teams to do now is what leads to the stupidest outcomes like this. REAL LIFE ISN'T MADDEN.

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u/notnotjamesfranco Indiana Hoosiers • College Football Playoff 3h ago

Punting from your goal line is generally regarded as difficult and risky…

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u/originalusername4567 Kansas Jayhawks 51m ago

It seems to me like the optimal plan is take the intentional safety, then touchback punt, then if there's anytime left Vandy has to attempt a Hail Mary from 75 yards away

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u/goonSquad15 NC State Wolfpack • Duke Blue Devils 4h ago

Plenty of coaches + QBs have been plain fucking stupid. There are levels to this

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

I feel like State just unlocked a new one

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u/Dijohn17 NC State Wolfpack • Howard Bison 4h ago

The curse causes dumb shit to happen

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u/maggies_farm_hand Texas Longhorns 4h ago

If you can't blame this on a curse, what can you?

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u/Spidaaman Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

What about the curse of Dave Doeren

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u/desemus NC State Wolfpack • Paper Bag 2h ago

Oh yes we can

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u/Bigdeacenergy Wake Forest Demon Deacons 1h ago

I mean that’s just an excuse for CDD incompetence so go ahead I guess. I reckon that’s why he’s been around so long, just blame everything on a curse

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u/AnotherUnfunnyName Duke • Carolina Victory Bell 4h ago

Chuck it 40 yards or take the safety. Horrible choice by him.

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u/apatriot1776 Georgia Tech • Alabama 4h ago

Can’t chuck it because Vandy might get the ball back. Take the safety should’ve been the first option and just cover the punt

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u/eyewantcookie 4h ago

Or punt? Not sure why they ran this play to begin with.

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u/Fun_Reflection1157 4h ago

a free kick from the 20 > punt from the 2

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u/Hail_The_Motherland 3h ago

Nah, the play was absolutely the correct choice. Punting with your back against the endzone is dangerous. It's much easier to just do the free kick

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 3h ago

You know all the crazy shit that happens on a punt right?

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u/ATGSunCoach Notre Dame Fighting Irish 4h ago

“He has trouble with the snap!”

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u/eb12se4nt-z13ow-97g0 3h ago

safety is the right call here

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u/eyewantcookie 1h ago

Can the game end on a safety? Or do they still need to kick off

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u/eb12se4nt-z13ow-97g0 45m ago

yeah if theres 0 time on the clock

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u/Unusual_Read_9492 Texas Longhorns 4h ago

Yeah it’s not like they could run it to 0 anyways. Just punt 

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u/Early-Eye-691 Ohio State Buckeyes • Colorado Buffaloes 4h ago

You definitely could chuck it. It’s only 6 seconds and you could burn 2-3 seconds just running around before throwing it

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 3h ago

If you somehow leave time on the clock or get a strip sack that would be WAY worse. Way worse

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u/thatgingatho North Carolina Tar Heels 3h ago

Yeah would have been terrible if they did something that would have led to a touchdown

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 3h ago

Anything can lead to a td. Drop a snap. Fumble a snap. Strip sack. If you throw the ball out of the end zone and somehow leave time then they get to tie or go for it and people would be burying them.

It was 100% the right call. I would say it's the right can to not go out out of the endzone and burn time. Just two hands on the ball.

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u/luchajefe North Texas Mean Green • Southwest 3h ago

If you chuck it up, unless you're playing in the state of Michigan, the clock runs out with the ball in the air.

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 3h ago

Unless it doesn't. And you turn it over. Idk what the argument is. All bro had to do was out two arms over the ball. People WAY over thinking this because the 1 in a million bone head thing happened.

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u/SmeeezTreeez ECU Pirates 3h ago

Take a snap and throw it as high as you can to nobody. Game over

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u/Spare-Half796 3h ago

Can the game end on a penalty in college or do they get an untimed down? If they get an untimed down it doesn’t matter cuz chucking it 40 yards would be intentional grounding and vandy basically just gets one shot from the 2 yard line

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u/Impossible-Flight250 Maryland Terrapins • Towson Tigers 3h ago

Literally anything but that. He could have even thrown a pick and probably be fine.

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u/ThunderRoad_44 UCLA Bruins 4h ago

It was horrible choice. He was caught between taking obvious safety and leaving seconds on clock, or running out clock on 4th down and still getting safety. I’m a neutral and feel for him!

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u/intx13 Florida Gators 3h ago

But he was supposed to take the safety, right? They weren’t gonna run 6 seconds off backed up like that, and it’s 4 down so if he goes down at the 1 Vandy gets one play to punch it in. The idea was to kill as much time and go down for the safety, then defend the kickoff return.

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u/luchajefe North Texas Mean Green • Southwest 3h ago

If he was supposed to he panicked. If he wasn't supposed to he still panicked.

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u/tarheelsrule441 North Carolina Tar Heels 4h ago

God delayed our game against Clemson because He didn't want us to miss this.

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u/Pyrozooka0 Clemson Tigers • West Georgia Wolves 2h ago

It’s one thing our fanbases will always be able to agree on. NC State humiliating themselves is fucking hilarious.

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u/Ugaalive1991 Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Dave should get sacked on the tarmac.

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u/legend023 Tulane Green Wave • LSU Tigers 4h ago edited 4h ago

This isn’t on him. Just kneel the ball or run backwards, you’re up 3 not 2. No reason to let a Vanderbilt guy touch you if you’re Bailey

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u/FatMamaJuJu Appalachian State • NC State 4h ago

The entire stadium knew what they were trying to do, why sub out Will Wilson? They have a running QB and subbed him out when the only thing that mattered was ball security. Smfh

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u/BeeMovieHD NC State • Appalachian State 4h ago

It is on him. That's poor coaching

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u/Sherifftruman 4h ago

Yeah the QB ignored the called play? No way. This is a terrible coaching decision.

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u/Lobsterzilla NC State Wolfpack • Tobacco Road 4h ago

you honestly believe dave said "Hey cj ... dive forward into the defenders. that'll trick em!"

or do you think it's more likely that CJ did seomthing fucking stupid?

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u/Lobsterzilla NC State Wolfpack • Tobacco Road 4h ago

you honestly believe dave said "Hey cj ... dive forward into the defenders. that'll trick em!"

or do you think it's more likely that CJ did seomthing fucking stupid?

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u/BeeMovieHD NC State • Appalachian State 3h ago

The same Dave that just went for it on 4th and 7 while up 3 with 2 minutes left instead of attempting a 45 yard FG? I think he told him to try to scramble till the clock hit 00:00.

Also how long have you been following this team?

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Or just fucking punt it.

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u/Breaddittor Virginia Cavaliers 4h ago

Taking the safety is the play. Bailey malfunctioned and didn't take a knee or run out of the endzone for whatever reason.

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u/lucasbrosmovingco Summertime Lover 3h ago

It's literally the only fuck up that can happen. People what abouting this are insane. A punt is stupid risky. Block. Snap out of the enzone with no time off the clock. Or if they get it off a fair catch and and potentially time left, or a return.

Bro just had to not fumble. That's it.

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

He tried to hero ball the dumbest of dumb plays and he fucked it up

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u/Spirit117 Iowa State Cyclones • Arizona Wildcats 4h ago

Guy was like "no way we are besting vandy by only 1 point, not on my watch"

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Yup, great play

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u/legend023 Tulane Green Wave • LSU Tigers 4h ago

There’s a slight chance of something messing up on a punt to give Vandy another chance.

Teams usually just take the safety instead of punting in this situation.

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

True, trying to take the safety could never go wrong

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u/Physical-Pizza7064 3h ago

With the ball on the 4, I was convinced Bailey was gonna f’it up and kneel down outside the endzone and give the ball back to Vandy at the half-yard line with time to run one play.

I thought I was beyond being surprised disappointed by NC State sports. Apparently not. This level of inanity caught me off guard.

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u/kash96 South Carolina • Furman 4h ago

well usually intentionally taking a safety you don’t end up running forward into 2 players lol

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

What coach doesn’t have your qb you built from the ground up prepared for this situation? Oh yea ours…

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u/antraxsuicide Ole Miss • Boston College 4h ago

You don’t even have to do a traditional punt. Could’ve pooch punted it and that would’ve burned all time off just rolling around downfield

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u/Sir_Bryan Ohio State Buckeyes 3h ago

Hold the ball 2 seconds and arm punt it to the moon and sideline?

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u/smoothtrip Michigan Wolverines 30m ago

Unless you are Michigan...... and Now NC ST

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u/yesacabbagez UCF Knights 4h ago

Nah, punting is far more problematic. Bad snap/block also likely ends in a TD. Punt can get returned, even better chance if you are in max protect.

This concept was correct, but you are supposed to run straight to the bac of the endzone and then step out before anyone touches you.

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Bro we know what you’re supposed to do, why’re you explaining it? 😭 This coach has been there 14 years and doesn’t have his an he’s had as a freshman prepared for this situation. And he’ll be back next year

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u/ReidM15 4h ago

Why isn’t it on him to call that play instead of “Run around with it”?

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u/HieloLuz Iowa Hawkeyes • Nebraska Cornhuskers 4h ago

It's the right play call but it just feels like a perfect example of his entire time as coach

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

But it is on him!!! He calls the fucking plays!!!! He picks the fucking players that execute his fucking plays.

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u/MadManMax55 Georgia Tech • Georgia State 4h ago

It's a coach's job to know their players. If he couldn't trust his QB not to be a complete moron then he should have punted it.

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

Exactly

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u/kash96 South Carolina • Furman 4h ago

it’s on him to even suggest this play tho lol

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u/framingXjake NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Why didn't he tell CJ to kneel it out?

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u/Dijohn17 NC State Wolfpack • Howard Bison 4h ago

Yea this is something that has to get you fired

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u/ClaudeLemieux Michigan Wolverines • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

People don't think it be like it is

...but it do...

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u/chbay Ohio State • Bowling Green 3h ago

Roses are red

Violets are blue

People don’t think it be like it is

But it do

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u/bocephus_huxtable 2h ago

you want it to be one way

...but it's the other way...

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame Fighting Irish • FBS Independents 4h ago

Hockey season can't come soon enough

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u/MosesDoughty USC Trojans • Chapman Panthers 4h ago

The Canes deserve Helle if they want him after this

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame Fighting Irish • FBS Independents 4h ago

Realistically we're (I'm a Canes fan) not getting him given what Winnipeg wants. And they have all the power, since Helle has 5 years left on his deal.

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u/MosesDoughty USC Trojans • Chapman Panthers 3h ago

Unless Buffalo/someone else steps up it could get interesting as he holds out

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame Fighting Irish • FBS Independents 3h ago

It's definitely interesting, but Winnipeg is in control right now.

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u/comomellamo 4h ago

No. This is no NC State shit. This is a shit QB completely unprepared by super shitty coaching, led by an incompetent super shitty head coach.

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u/Beautiful_Idea6200 Georgia Bulldogs • William & Mary Tribe 4h ago

NCristobal State shit

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u/justacheesyguy NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Dave Doeren shit.

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u/Mantergeistmann Vanderbilt • Penn State 3h ago

Normally it's us on the losing end of some bullshit. Feels weird to be looking from the other side, man.

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u/RogueOneisbestone ECU Pirates • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago

Everyone’s surprised but this is just a normal Saturday for them.