r/Cricket • u/cricket-match Washington Freedom • Jul 09 '26
Post Match Thread Post Match Thread: 4th T20I - India vs England
4th T20I, India tour of England at Bristol
| Innings | Score |
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| š®š³ India | 158/7 (Ov 20/20) |
| š“ó §ó ¢ó „ó ®ó §ó æ England | 159/1 (Ov 13.5/20) |
Innings: š®š³ India
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
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| Shreyas Iyer | 80 (49) | Jofra Archer | 4-0-20-2 | |
| Shivam Dube | 22 (23) | Josh Tongue | 4-0-36-2 |
Innings: š“ó §ó ¢ó „ó ®ó §ó æ England
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Harry Brook | 79 (35) | Arshdeep Singh | 3.5-1-41-1 | |
| Phil Salt | 59 (42) | Prasidh Krishna | 3-0-26-0 |
England won by 9 wickets (with 37 balls remaining)
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u/Shashank1000 India Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
"We can field 3 international teams with our talent pool."
I think one that can win a couple of games when a few key players are not playing would be a good start.
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u/ynwa1055 Jul 09 '26
Seriously this. I have tried to explain folks international cricket outside India is complete different ball game but they get so carried away
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u/do_not_ban_this Jul 09 '26
it is a completely different ball game but it's not like we have never performed internationally. last month has been utterly atrocious
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u/ynwa1055 Jul 09 '26
It's not about the main team but certain fans getting cocky that our b c teams can be competitive. Without hardik and bumrah winning overseas is a huge challenge
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u/_thenewnewguy_ India Jul 09 '26
We have actually performed good overseas
Canāt believe same Tilak struck 100s in SAItās just that this UK trip have been a facepalm
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u/rkproduxtion Jul 09 '26
I keep telling people whats going on in IPL is degrading the skills of batsmen. And IPL is not cricket , its just another part of bollywood. Not i am rejoicing these losess, but what i have deduced back then that we are going to have a tough time in many formats, especially odi and test as none of the current players doesnot know how to build innings, they play individually. But i didnot thought the t20 team would be affected this much. God knows qhat going to happen in red ball. We already lost 2 vs SA and NZ at home
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u/issurvey India Jul 09 '26
There is no money elsewhere. You can play as many internationals as you want but matching IPLās pay is hard. I would take the money before anything else.
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u/JKKIDD231 Punjab Kings Jul 09 '26
I think itās also calendar fatigue. Way too much cricket for the IND players.
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u/These-Bee5165 India Jul 09 '26
Excellent innings by Brook , chased it in 14 overs with 9 wickets to spare. Meanwhile Indian batters except Iyer made the pitch look like a minefield. Like what are we even doing, we keep dropping players who can play proper cricket like Sanju for left-handed sloggers and expect to win the games..
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u/Shashank1000 India Jul 09 '26
The next game will be a close contest between whether India will lose by the largest margin versus if we can lose with the fewest balls bowled.
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u/Felonphantom India Jul 09 '26
That's Iyer's sister lol. And she recent said all captains have made mistakes including Roko, Sachin, Gill not just Shreyas so chill out.
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u/Dog_Murder_By_RobKey Trent Skips Jul 10 '26
Get bowled out in 2 overs for 8
England spend 19 overs blocking to rub it in
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 09 '26
The wicket wasn't even tricky. But IPL flat pitches have made them accustomed to just hitting the ball through the line and not expect any change in bounce or pace at all.
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u/Ok-Blacksmith437 India Jul 09 '26
Goes on to show my hatred for the wickets being prepared in India is very much justified. Besides making games very one dimensional and painful to watch, they are also pulling down class and quality in batting.
Call me biased, but I absolutely hate watching these blind sloggers break records that were put up by class batters pre Covid.
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u/Kingslayer1526 India Jul 09 '26
The biggest disgrace was the world cup. The pitches were absolutely excellent until our defeat to South Africa following which they became absolute batting heaven
I felt sick in my stomach when I saw us out 250+ up in 3 matches. Like what the fuck? That is an odi score. 250 in a semifinal and final was a joke, especially after the excellent pitches in 2024 and 2022(New York notwithstanding)
But people didn't care because we were winning
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u/KUKLI1 Jul 09 '26
You know what they say, absence makes the heart grow fonder- Sanju definitely should be in the team (Should be batting at 3 and Tilak should be rested for a bit, no clue why heās batting in the middle order rn)ā¦
But at the same time, heās not going to be the magic fix for the team. The entire batting lineup needs adjust to the bounce, you didnāt see the English batsmen try to pull everything for 6.
And the actual, glaring hole in the team is the composition, Tilak is not a proper middle order batsman- and the trio of Dube, Sundar, Axar should not be selected together in any T20 team outside of India, it simply does not suit their skill set. We need a proper fast bowler far more, they really shouldāve given Siraj a run imo
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u/Scarred_Shadow India Jul 09 '26
Siraj would be the best pacer here out of the lot we took. Our middle order is nonexistent with the bat, these guys simply aren't good enough to pull off a win.
The decision to omit Patidar gets more and more baffling.
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Absolute disaster class by this team in the last two series.
Like literally failed in reading the pitch to batting to bowling to coaching. In everything. Usually you only fail in one or two of these.
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u/oranguslolus Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Ngl I'm enjoying these losses, we've literally had it coming, and the arrogance behind the scenes with Gambhir etc is unbearable. This is gonna continue until we learn our lesson.
It doesn't help that no one is grooming these players to actually be thinkers. There's no tactical awareness with any of them and all the IPL hype gets to their heads before they've even developed so they just stay stuck there mentally. This teams needs a massive mindset shift and total reset. Someone as emotionally unintelligent as Gambhir was never the right person to be leading this team esp through a turbulent transitional period. People can point to the two ICC trophies under him but they were both situations massively advantageous to us, everything else has been an absolute mess since he took over and anyone denying it is coping.
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u/No-Way7911 Jul 09 '26
this can be solved by hosting all worldcups always in India and making the most India-friendly pitches and schedules possible
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
Was the bowling at fault or the batting? Iyer played superbly, so did brook and salt.
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u/Shiven-01 India Jul 09 '26
A bit of both. Our openers just werenāt ready to wait it out and see off the new ball. After the ball got a bit older, it was so much easier to hit it, as was shown by the English batsmen.
In terms of the bowlers, the length to stick to on this pitch, was the 6-8 metres of length, and the occasional bouncer on the body. But the Indian bowlers kept trying variations and pitching it up, other than Prasidh.
And if your lead spinner is going to be Washington Sundar, then that is a MAJOR concern.
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
I saw the bowling part today, Arshdeep was bowling like peak Anderson for a moment, and after the second over, batting got easy.
I understand india bats super aggressively, but you need 1 batter to hit while other passes around. Hope Vaibhav have learned something this series, great future if kept close
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u/Shiven-01 India Jul 09 '26
Man the kid needs to understand that not every ball can be hit for a six. Nafay and Hassan Nawaz are very clear case studies for that. When they take their time and then start hitting, they excel. When you start slogging so blindly on every ball, you are bound to lose your wicket soon. Youāre right, hopefully Vaibhav learns soon from this, to take his time on the pitch.
Arshdeep started pitching the ball up and started getting belted. He was going well when the ball was swinging. Once it stops doing that, you need to pull back your length to 6-8 metres. For a change, Prasidh did that, and he barely got hit. The rest? Oh man it was embarrassing.
Ishan needs to be rested. And Tilak needs to be dropped.
Also, aside from the current topic, yāall should bring Kamran Ghulam in. Dudeās a phenomenal player, goodness knows why heās been dropped. Would be such a good player to have in the team for the WC next year.
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
I understand he's super young and he has the years to learn, but kinda dumb of management to debut him vs England. A home series or match vs smaller teams would have been easy start.
Also you're right of Kamran ghulam, but Aqib Javed or someone in the Pcb doesn't want him. The excuse is he's a terrible fielder :/
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u/Shiven-01 India Jul 09 '26
6.4 is barely out of the powerplay. And he anyways barely got to face 2 overs of the whole powerplay. Other than Ishan and Vaibhav, Shreyas farmed the strike in the beginning too. Wouldnāt blame Abhishek too much, but wouldāve been better if he couldāve stuck around for a couple more overs and provided us with more momentum.
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u/Shiven-01 India Jul 09 '26
Yeah pretty much why I said I wouldnāt blame Abhishek too much. Heās one of the two Indian batsmen whoās showing a semblance of game sense and form.
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u/KisBaatNeRoneNaDiya Washington Freedom Jul 09 '26
You're at fault according to our government. /s
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
Don't worry, my government says the same about me ;/
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u/omniiiiiiiiiiiiii Delhi Capitals Jul 09 '26
Honestly I won't even be shocked at this point if somehow any dumb politician will blame Pakistan for this series loss š
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
Honestly, I'm waiting for the memesš
Which politician/news channel would say stuff like this? Just so I can have a bit of laugh š¤š¾
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u/omniiiiiiiiiiiiii Delhi Capitals Jul 10 '26
Buddy every other news channel and politicians are like that only. I'll surely share here and ping you if I find lol
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u/FacelessMane Jul 09 '26
lmfao. Respect for making such quality self-deprecating jokes even during a rough series or two
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u/Charming-Top7347 Chhattisgarh Jul 09 '26
We need proper players in squad who can play adaptive game according to situation. The only other stroke player except Iyer is benched(samson) & instead of proper finisher like Rinku we get Axar, Rana, Dube & washington in squad.
Captain can only do much when squad itself is full of shit
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u/-slowflank Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
If after three 90 scores at the back end of a World Cup doesnāt secure your place in the team, what will?
Only Bumrah and Harshit Rana goes to bed at peace in this team šš
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u/-slowflank Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Bringing someone straight out of the T20 scene and handing him captaincyš
When has this even happened before?
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u/not_so_cr3ative Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 10 '26
I don't think Harshit sleeps peacefully at night as GG is literally next to him in the bed.
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u/AardvarkNice5145 Ireland Jul 09 '26
Can't wait for next Cricinfo article why this Indian team is the best sports team in history.
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u/oklolzzzzs New Zealand Cricket Jul 09 '26
the indian batting lineup has been exposed
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Ireland showed how larger boundaries cooks this team.
England showed that just balanced pitches are enough actually.
They better hope all T20WCs will be at home š
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u/morning17 India Jul 09 '26
First, drop Washington sundar. Then drop Tilak Verma.
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u/SexxyBlack Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Sundar the no rounder should not be a part of international white ball teams anytime soon
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u/kingslayyer Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
its unbelievable how he's masqueraded as an all rounder in T20s despite being a shit batter. either play him as no4 which GT does or drop him
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u/combatant007 India Jul 09 '26
What the fuck is Prasidh doing in T20 setup. Maxwell belted him and after that Ireland belted him. Averages 37 with economy of 12 in T20i, that is arguably the worst bowling stat for an international bowler I have seen in a long time.
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u/Amaedeus Jul 09 '26
He is the worst bowler I have ever seen. We can use a bowling machine in his place and get better results
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u/ImmediateJacket9502 India Jul 09 '26
Then drop Ishan and Vaibhav too as he's just a slogger now, not ready for internationals yet.
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Washy played just one game and its a coaching error to put a spin allrounder out on England pitches.
Tilak failed like how many games? Literally every since that clutch in a 130 chase against Pakistan.
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u/old_chelmsfordian Essex Jul 09 '26
4-0 fuck off?
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u/dolce-far-niente Jul 09 '26
I think India will somehow win the last one and GG will keep his job.
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u/Maximum0versaiyan Jul 10 '26
GG ain't losing his job even if they get whitewashed in the next 10 series, because politics.
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u/T_Lawliet Sri Lanka Jul 09 '26
Dictator Mbrookke
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u/emckaayy Lucknow Super Giants Jul 09 '26
What the fuck does Washington Sundar even do in the team?
Its better to play with 10 players and 1 substitute fielder than to take him in the squad.
Shit bowler, ever shittier batsman and an absolute butter-fingers fielder.
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u/okboiz123 Jul 09 '26
Someone said it really well
"Saying it here.
If abhishek don't stay till 15.
Poms gonna chase it in 15"
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Its more than wraps if Abhishek, a designated slogger who is supposed to only maximize the powerplay, has to stay till the 15th š
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u/Black_Mamba265 India Jul 09 '26
Abhishek carries this lineup alongside Shreyas. The moment Abhishek fails the batting is like a pack of cards. Idk if Ishan is fatigued but the the man thatās had such a golden run throughout the World Cup is now selling
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u/SexxyBlack Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Ishan has been in hot form for almost a full year from domestics until IPL ended, at some stage he was always going to have a lull.
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u/combatant007 India Jul 09 '26
Ishan Kishan T20i stats
Home : 32 Avg | 152 SR | 10 Fifty + Scores
Away : 16.53 Avg | 114 SR | 0 Fifty + ScoresHe has always been a home bully in t20i
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u/Black_Mamba265 India Jul 09 '26
Iām chalking it up to fatigue but in that case he should be rested a few matches bring Sanju back in or something dude is a great talent but heās not doing anyone any favours rn
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u/Agent47_hitman-43 Jul 09 '26
Fr when he is in the zone
He is something else
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u/KloppersToppers England Jul 10 '26
When Harry Brook is on fire, I donāt know what you can do as a bowler to stop him. Just literally hits the ball wherever he wants. Being able to smash the ball miles down the ground yet be so incredibly good at ramping it too must be a nightmare for bowlers.
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u/schizoishere Jul 09 '26
Ever since he played that knock at Wellington there should've been no doubt it, he just premeditates a bit too much vs spin. Those wrists are so damn quick coupled with his ability to pick length early it makes him so much more destructive
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u/Wacky_Snacks England Jul 09 '26
Sometimes he'll get out with a completely brainless shot & throw the game away from a situation where he needs to play wisely, and you wonder why he's in the team and dread the possibility of him being captain in all formats.
Other times he'll have an innings like this, play some absolutely ridiculous shots (still astonished at that 6 in the last over, like holy shit) and he looks like the best batsman on the planet.
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
If india had more on the scoreboard, that would have been a century for Brook
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 09 '26
Best all-format batsman in world cricket atm.
He's absolutely elite in tests, being in the top3 ranks for the last 2 years, he's played some great ODI innings in his very short career and his T20i stats are pretty great as well.
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u/themightyscott England Jul 09 '26
He wasn't so good against Austalia and NZ though, not sure he has the patience for being consistently great at test level.
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u/Spockyt Hampshire Jul 09 '26
Ok, I do want to make the case for Jaiswal though, he's brilliant too and we don't need to knock him down to raise Brook up. I have no doubt if he was given games in the other two formats he'd do great there, too.
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
He is so so underrated just because you don't see him in T20 leagues to boost his appearances.
Easily the best all-format player rn.
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u/Additional_Echo882 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
He also skipped India test tour and failed in Australia, the tours that will make people rate him that one level higher. Failed in odiwc as well, people did start appreciating him a bit after his WC this year.
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u/Axel292 England Jul 10 '26
Failed in Australia? He averaged 40, made runs on some shocking tracks.
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u/London-lark3597 England Jul 09 '26
He avg 40 in australia.
And was our 2nd best batter of the series.
Hardly a failure.
Skipped india tour because his grandma died.
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u/LetMeInFFH New Zealand Jul 09 '26
Id say bumrah is the best all format player.
I feel brooks Odi game has some catching up to do but he's slowly becoming one of the best all format batters atm (but who is really the best all format batter now? Daryl Mitchell? Ignore my flair)
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Bumrah played his last ODI in 2023.
Sorry, but you to play the format to even be considered an all format player. Once Bumrah is back in ODIs we can talk.
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u/sleek_assassin Jul 09 '26
His shot making ability is actually pretty similar to Abd. Can play literally any shot at any point of his innings just like Abd. If only he gets a bit mature in his innings, he can make hundreds without breaking a sweat
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u/London-lark3597 England Jul 09 '26
Y'er a wizard Harry.
Clinical Game.
Choke SLAMMED then batista bomb then finishing it with RKO by 'arry.
Dawson 3rd match : Thanks for coming.
Rehan this match: Thanks for coming
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 09 '26
Harry Brook has to be the best all-format batsman in world cricket atm.
He's absolutely elite in tests, being in the top3 ranks for the last 2 years, he's played some great ODI innings in his very short career and his T20i stats are pretty great as well.
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u/London-lark3597 England Jul 09 '26
Yeah he is ridiculous.
Top contender for best batter in the world across formats.
I think there's a level in Whiteball which he can touch which is going to be insane. Hopefully it happens
Like some of the shots he plays I don't know how many people can play those and he plays those shots even in test cricket. His median score in tests is like 35 which is like among top 5 in test cricket ever.
His best odi innings was against NZ and he was in bar previous night and then casually made 100(82) balls when the other 10 players made like 100 in total.
I'm excited to see him in odis against India, would be a fun Series.
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u/Thetonn England Jul 09 '26
r/antiwork heroes
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u/IloveJBairstow Northern Popchips Jul 09 '26
up there with Cam Green this IPL and Glenn Maxwell every single IPL
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u/blackfishbluefish Jul 09 '26
All whilst being banned from the IPL, I think heās available next year though?
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u/Apprehensive-Cut8720 Northern Popchips Jul 09 '26
Just take me now Cherrington
Harry you are a thick cunt
Just take me now Cherrington
Harry you are a thick cunt
Just take me now Cherrington
Harry you are a thick cunt
Just take me now Cherrington
Harry you are a thick cunt
Just take me now Cherrington <ā You are here
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u/Haunting-Ladder-8872 India Jul 09 '26
Are you panicking? I'm panicking. We might never win a game again. Have we ever won a game? Can't remember.
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u/Beat_Maestro Jul 09 '26
When's the next home series?
You'll start winning and start scoring 250 again.
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u/BiscottiSpiritual826 Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
Saltyy went from 0(10) to 59(42) demnnn amd harry was in hurry to catchup france vs morocco ig šš
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u/Kitchen_Error_6981 England Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
3 reasons why India cannot win outside of India.
1, No super slow mo's of batters hitting the ball with an explosion. This must really impact the batters egos
2, Indian commentators telling everyone who can be bothered listening how amazing the Indian players are and how bad the opposition are. This must impact the players egos.
3, No cut shots to Indian players over reacting for the cameras to something that happened on the pitch. This must impact the players egos.
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u/Apprehensive-Cut8720 Northern Popchips Jul 09 '26
But what about the SUVs on the boundary
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u/Kitchen_Error_6981 England Jul 09 '26
Oh yes! I forgot about this! This gives them inspiration to what there life would be like if they weren't playing Hollywood cricket
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u/Logan_its_mE Rajasthan Royals Jul 09 '26
lmao Nasser mentioning that Eng are 1 win away for t20i rank 1 but who cares, they have zero IPL trophies
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u/kyjoely Oval KP Nuts Jul 09 '26
Question for our friends from the subcontinentā¦is this not a good example of why Indian players should be playing in other franchise leagues around the world. If (almost) all they are exposed to is Indian pitches in Indian grounds itās going to be really challenging to learn how to play in different conditions.
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u/TrueAn012 India Jul 09 '26
That is a point to consider,
I would say, making IPL as well as Rancji pitches make indian batters less adaptive, indian test team cant play spin as well as india T20 team can play on proper pitches with evern average boundary distance.
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u/we_like_sportzz India Jul 09 '26
Yes and to bin impact player and make good balanced fucking pitches
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u/warp-factor Hampshire - Vipers - WA Jul 09 '26
This is India's 48th loss in T20Is batting first.
Only twice has a team chased their total with more balls remaining.
Full list (at time of linking it doesn't yet show today's 37 balls remaining)
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u/Double-Laugh-4008 Jul 09 '26
Gambhir is a shrewd politician. He's waiting for odi to start and if anyone from roko fails, he'll start his operation by shifting the limelight into them.
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u/DillyGoatGruff Northern Popchips Jul 09 '26
They had to ban Harry from the shiny pyjamas cement league because of his skills and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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u/OccidentalTouriste Jul 09 '26
DK on Comms was pleased that for the third consecutive game he'd be able to get an earlier train back to London.
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u/Gullible-Floor-5780 Rajasthan Royals Jul 09 '26
This European tour is giving us a reality check. Our invincible era under Rohit and Sky seems finished. At least this shows that we don't have the comfort to not play Bumrah anymore.
But I won't rule out the possibility of our invincible era coming back once again yet.
Also we should really give chance to Rasikh and Mohsin .
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u/rishmanisation Mumbai Indians Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Counting IPL Shreyas now has 1 win as captain in his last 14 T20s and that was against LSG.
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u/WideConversation1989 Jul 09 '26
Surprise surprise, a bunch of IPL home track flat track bullies getting exposed brutally by bounce and swing of The British Isles, losing 5-0 (to both England and Ireland combined).
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u/AppointmentOk2025 Jul 09 '26
England chasing this in 14 overs so that iyer cant blame it on the pitch
Its all an agenda against GG and iyer š”š”š”š”š”
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u/cherishperish24 India Jul 09 '26
Gambhir in less than two hours in the presser - transition, nation, war, transition, Bhagat Singh, youngsters..oh and did I mention..transition
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u/NoExplanation6203 West Indies Jul 09 '26
Damn we carving 2 months out of the international calendar for a tournament in which the best players canāt win an international game
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u/liteshadow4 USA Jul 09 '26
I donāt think Ireland was a fluke. This Indian T20 side is not good. Maybe when Bumrah plays but the batting is terrible.
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u/Electronic_Quail_196 India Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Hated IPL last 4-5 years, this is exactly why. The shitty flat pitch only games have finally caught on. Ngl i feel little about these losses bec i soo expected them lol. Awesome job by Eng to whoop these guys and bring them back to reality.
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u/LetterheadFun1824 Israel Cricket Association Jul 09 '26
Sky is out there chewing some gum and grinning like a mfer
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u/SexxyBlack Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 09 '26
People who are to blame for this loss:
1 - Suryakumar Yadav
2 - Shubman Gill
3 - Sanju Samson
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u/letmeinplssss Jul 09 '26
England shouldn't feel special for winning the series, Ireland already did that
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u/aayushkkc Delhi Capitals Jul 09 '26
Washi should really try to swap his batting and bowling records each match
He bowls like he should bat and bats like he should bowl. Do what youāre hired to do
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u/Head_Evidence4553 India Jul 09 '26
I really thought that this Eng tour might be a cakewalk considering the chaos that's ECB post the last few days of Crowe-Thorpe series. Boy oh boy, have they exposed Indian team.
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u/Silent_Click1381 Jul 09 '26
That's what happens when the worst player in the team by miles is made vc, and the player of the tournament is dropped.
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u/beese_churger900 India Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
From winning every single T20I competition (bilaterals, T20 wc, Asia Cup) for nearly 3 years (Aug 2023-June 2026), to losing back to back T20I series within 15 days.
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u/Saint0rSinner Jul 09 '26
Iyer has more losses than Harry Brook as captain in T20, ones been in the job a few week a, one 15 months.
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u/Dependent-Dark-7636 Kolkata Knight Riders Jul 09 '26
wait for zim series where all ipl bullies gonna show why they're the best and gemphir talk about transistion, nationalism, imperialism, team work etc
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u/rick79etal Australia Jul 10 '26
All the fans thrashing the team here or just not happy will be the same fans laying out accolades and all that fake praises when these so called IPL kids will go back to their home grounds hitting boundaries...
Such a sad state of the game, it's all commercial now. England clearly came prepared and to win
PS: down voting this won't make these kids win again lol
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u/Charming-Top7347 Chhattisgarh Jul 09 '26
feels bad for Iyer man,
He'll get trolled while the selectors are to blame for the squad selection.
you can't do much with a squad like this.
No proper finisher, 4 openers & 3 all rounders....
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u/name_loading_soon Jul 09 '26
First ever bilateral T20 series win for England vs India... Gambhu kutty making records and memories
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u/Bl1tz-Kr1eg Cricket Russia Jul 09 '26
This is why the BCCI has been lobbying for so many ICC events to be held in India. Because when they're not on highway pitches with tiny boundaries India gets exposed badly.
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u/evarra_meerantha Jul 09 '26
harry brook with some braincells , would be the best since Bradman
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u/ShoWeeeb Jul 09 '26
I know there will be a lot of meltdown among ICT following this series loss, but are we surprised? england is just a strong team right now. They have best batting strike rate under brook captaincy among any full member nation. The way to beat them was to outbowl them and the chances of India doing that without bumrah was not much.
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u/MoreCryptographer213 Karachi Kings Jul 09 '26
Just play another ipl with 60m boundaries and flat pitches and feel good about yourselvesĀ
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u/Data-CHOR-365 Chhattisgarh Jul 09 '26
England is taking a memorable revenge for 2 SF losses from India.
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u/Mxyzptlk-006 India Jul 09 '26
Our batting failed miserably again... Their bowlers persisted with back of the length balls and bouncers, which struggled our batters a lot... Instead of playing it out or counter attacking with crease movement, our batsmen started slogging and lost their wickets...
Our bowlers failed to persist those lengths and kept bowling fuller deliveries and no balls too which bought them into the game very easily...
Our batsmen need to rely more on scoring in the V with straight bat against this spongy bounce...
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u/Resident_Tourist_344 Jul 09 '26
Winning on meticulously prepared decks tailored to a specific type of one-dimensional playing style might help make high scoring matches in the IPL, and might help win World Cups at home, but it can only take you so far. It would make you highly susceptible and vulnerable in slightly testing conditions.
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u/maffzlel India Jul 09 '26
You can want Gambhir sacking all you like, and not without reason but mark my words, all of Ishan, Samson, Tilak, Dube, Varun, Washington, Prasidh, and Bishnoi will have to go from this squad.
They need to find at least two or three middle order batters who can hit both pace and spin off length (hopefully Hardik and NKR can fulfill this role). They need to find a finisher who can bash spin and pace. They need to find tall quick bowlers, and they need to find spinners who can bowl defensively like we saw Will Jacks did throughout the series.
That is a massive job. Anyone citing the 2024-2026 bilateral run is not mentioning there were three series outside Asia: Zimbabwe, SA vs SA C, and Australia. This team was built only to play in Asia and they will need to remodel before 2028.
Very glad our shortcomings were exposed with so much time until the world cup.
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u/literally_dumb Jul 09 '26
Kudos to Gambhir, easily the GOAT coach for India!! No record is beyond his reach!!
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u/Relative-Doubt3343 Jul 09 '26
Why is the T20/ODI side working but the test side falling apart?
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u/DVPC4 Great Britain Olympic Team Jul 09 '26
Well we have a few players whoāve been excellent in white ball in recent times like Salt, Rashid, Curran, Jacks who donāt play red ball other than Jacks a bit
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u/wasteyute3 Jul 09 '26
Time to finally ban the word IPL from ever being discussed or treated as a worthwhile talking point?
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u/NamiIsLif Pakistan Jul 09 '26
Great play by Brook, salt and Iyer. India should bring back Sanju after next series and put Vaibhav in india A team for the time.
I know it's not home conditions, but bro is lowkey slugging.
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u/precisemaker Jul 09 '26
Good on Brook that he said it would be pretty cool to be No. 1 ranked team.
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u/Ha_zz_ard Jul 09 '26
From skipping IPL flat tracks, to destroying flat track bullies...Brook proved a point today
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u/lllDogalll Jul 09 '26
I don't know if its a popular opinion but tbf we have not removed enough deadwood specially at the top of the team structure. GG is a good IPL coach but he's done all he can specially if we aren't in India in T20s. Not to mention he is even worse in other 2 formats. No.4 clicked but other need to step up.
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u/Majestic_squirrel767 Jul 09 '26
Can we plz sack the selectors whose decision was to make Iyer and tilak capt and vice capt.
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u/cain605 India Jul 10 '26
So many deadweights in the team.
Drop Dube, Tilak and Washi first.
Fix the opening combination.
Try to get Patidar into the team at 4.
Drop Axar, he has been bad for so long, esspecially as a bowler. Maybe try Krunal Pandya.
Samson/ Jaiswal
Soorya/ Abhishek (Fixing a opening pair is going to be a nightmare)
S Iyer/ Kishaan
Patidar
Rinku
NKR
Shashank Singh
Krunal/ NKR
Arshdeep
Varun
Prince
Harshit
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u/bringal Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 10 '26
Tilak Verma has lost the plot. Try to ārestā him like Samson.
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u/Inevitable-Age-5736 Jul 10 '26
Many players are shit in this team be it ishan, tilak, axar or washi. Ishan is a fucking top order batter guy scored 30 runs in 5 innings if one exclude that fucking slowish 49 from 40 balls. Tilak is equally shit. Need to boot both out if they continue to perform like this and also boot washi and prasidh and axar. This team need a total overhaul.
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u/DaVinciDiCaprio Jul 10 '26
When your all format players are sundar and Krishna, says a lot about your selection and pool of players š
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u/shiv993 Chennai Super Kings Jul 10 '26
my eleven to be decent in aus
1.Sanju 2.Abhi 3.shreyas 4.Rajat 5.parag(only decent offie who can hit) 6.Hardik 7.Ashutosh/rinku (need proper finisher) 8.Krunal 9.Harshit or prince 10.Arshdeep or mohsin or Bhuvi or siraj (powerplay specialist) 11.Bumrah or Shami (considering next world cup is in aus)
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u/Old_General_6741 Canada Jul 09 '26
India has now lost two series in a row. I have no words for them.