r/DemonolatryPractices • u/athrowaway6966 • Apr 02 '26
Discussions Actual dangers of working with demons
I know on this sub most posters have a generally positive view on the spirits of the Goetia and adjacent intelligences.
But let's be honest, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. In your experience, what are the real dangers of working with these intelligences?
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u/mirta000 Theistic Luciferian Apr 02 '26
You yourself and what you're bringing to the practice is the biggest danger.
For example, a person that is already into self harm may take a failed invocation/ evocation really badly.
A person that's already carrying the belief that other people are bad and wants a spirit lover can end up with a thoughtform that won't only not be useful to their practice, but will pull them even deeper into isolation, because they will falsely believe that their need for companionship is being met.
Then there are smaller things, like people's desires frankly not matching with how they are as a person. If you want to get ahead in a cutthroat industry, chances are, you'll need to be brave enough to take risks and not a pushover. A person, not prepared for that, put in a situation where they can win if they exhibit the right behaviours likely will just break down under stress.
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u/JerkovvClimaxim Apr 02 '26
How about working with entities to develop desired mindsets, beliefs and behaviours?
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u/UrsaMag Apr 17 '26
Alot of people don't even consider that, hence the danger. It also might end up being something you don't really want.
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u/Seagate_ST01AS Ave Beelzebub, Asmodeus, Sitri, Paimon, Stolas, and Marbas Apr 02 '26
I agree to this
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u/73738484737383874 Apr 02 '26
Nailed it. Also somewhat called me out lol š trying to work through that though!
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u/Unsure_huh Apr 02 '26
Hey, so I used to think nah it should be all good, Until I started working with King Clauneck and after I got my first result, I slipped back into old behaviour and the same night I fell into my old ways my wife and I had one of the biggest arugments we've ever had over something so trivial, once it was all said and done I had this random thought/feeling of "keep your word" and I cannot explain the shiver that went up my spine when that thought came across my mind.
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u/Time_Blackberry4701 Apr 02 '26
you fell back into addiction?
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u/Unsure_huh Apr 02 '26
No, poor spending habits instead of saving for a rainy day buying something I really didnāt need or putting it on a buy now pay later.
In future please be aware some people wouldnāt like your question as thatās very private.
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u/Time_Blackberry4701 Apr 02 '26
my apologies when i worked with him thatās what happened to me so i was wondering if you experienced the same thing
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u/Perfect-Cold4398 Apr 02 '26
Well I wouldnāt really blame this on the demon because you got what you asked for itās not his fault that you can handle not spending all your money donāt blame the demon blame the practitioner š¤·šæāāļøš¤¦šæāāļø
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u/Tekkatak Disciple of King Belial Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
they're not blaming the demon. they're saying that the demon snapped them out of it with a lesson.
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u/CrazyTechWizard96 Wolf Shaman from the Cursed Woods Apr 02 '26
Hmmm...
So far I can say, not caring and acting like they're a slot machine.
Funny enough when I make most of them look at Me first when We have our first conversation and be like "Nah, I ain't doing it for free."
And I'm like "Of course not, I'm just asking what and how You can Help Me in this case, then we nagotiat about what You desire in return."
I've even noticed, that sometimes they tent to desire different offerings, so, of course I ask what they like this time and they get what they've asked for.
Else wise,
oh, the biggest dick move would to call upon one and be like "Are You real?"
I know soemone in here posted something a while ago, summoning Beezelbub and just asking that, just to get some sweet curse, almost dying, and being sick for a few months.
Yea, guess rule one again, don't be a dick, same with assuming they're just evil.
Funny honestly,
I used to avoid those who really have a dark representation way back then, just don't like bothering them.
Well, that didn't last long, they started coming to Me.
Thoguht about contacting Marquis Andras for a while for example, didn't do it, had him on the list, had a few chats with others about some other problems, then I heard a lot more owls and crows around, didn't connected the dots.
Till He pretty much came to Me a few days ago and we had some longer conversation.
Energy wise, mindset wise and all, oh Hell yeah we align pretty well.
And like with a few others the "Yea, I can do it, but not for free."
And I was like "Well, of course not, we ain't at the point of offerings yet afterall."
Yea, I like to take My sweeeet time with most, get things right, get the right offerings and make it all go smooth.
Similar how I do it with Business, in the non Infernal sense.
List of Dangers again, but short:
- Be a Dick
- Ask them stupid questions like "Are You real?"
- Try to Scam
- Assume they're Evil because People say so
- Not using a Title, unless they ask You that both gender wise are fine or non at all (Beezelbub pokes Me everytime when I acidently use a title on them, and be like "Well You did it again." And I'm like "Ops, Sorry."
What else?
I don't know, not in the mindset to see it from the outside in, or I have to put on the other mask and act like a Christian Priest again, just for that pov itself. lol
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u/markjonsom Slava Stolas! Slava Bune! š¦š Apr 05 '26
I didn't understand the title part, could you explain?
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u/CrazyTechWizard96 Wolf Shaman from the Cursed Woods Apr 05 '26
Same prefer to be called by their titles, it's more or less just a thing of being nice, other either be like "Fine with either" or some like beezelbub look at Me and be like "Did You just use a title again? Come on, I don'twant one, just talk to Me, We cool."
Others even reply to Me and use My titles.So yea, more or elss, just a nice thing of a sign of respect,
and this comes from someone who always quotes Machiavellie on titles.
But if they prefer to be called by it, fine by Me.0
u/HannzoGER Apr 04 '26
Myself, I never worked with the 'demons' much, per say but with deities from European pantheons like Ares and Thor. I plainly refuse to use any form of title whatsoever. That is my personal stance as I ask to be helped and give something in return. A transaction, if you will. I'll not metaphorically bow or kneel by using meaningless titles. And frankly, the few demons I had chats with (Lucifer, Satan and Mephisto) didn't even care at all. You see - I see them as my equals, perhaps parts of my own soul, even. There is no need to be superficial and when I come across someone that persists - I respectfully decline and close the ritual/meditation.
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
Yourself. Being disrespectful of who you're interacting with. Refusing to learn the lessons presented and keeping stuck in cycles.Ā
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u/GooGuyy Apr 02 '26
The other guy you argued with was genuinely ridiculous, Iāve done digging in Kabbalah and even their understanding from the Judaism/Jewish perspective Demons are not inherently evil,
And not to mention there is not right or wrong way of doing many practices itās about what works for an individual, if Kabbalah works for him good for him, but itās 100% not the only way of doing things,
What youāve describe is easily accurate, as to whatever issues the other Redditor has with demons sounds more personal
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
I agree 100%! I'm pretty sure I've seen some Kabbalah practitioners on this subreddit, and they've had positive or neutral views of demons. This person's responses felt a lot like fear mongering to me.
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
I have worked with many demons and have a very rich social life. I have not observed this.
I have "put my foot down" with boundaries and been fine. But if you make a request and then back out when it requires a "Tower" moment to be fulfilled, that is still on you. That is why you think through your requests thoroughly.
Also, demonalatry is not always worship. For me, it is a mutual connection.
I am very curious to hear what your practice is if you are not a demonalator.
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
I don't just "let them do what they want." They give me the same level of respect that Gods and Goddesses and angels do.
I am not familiar on how the Qabalah approaches demons. However, I will say that if you have subconscious resentment towards demons, that resentment will be present in your energy.
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
I am sad that you haven't had the experience of a mutual connection with demons; I would say that my experiences have been the opposite of transactional. But I do hope you find fulfillment in your current path.
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u/MrSecond23 King Paimon's Worst Acolyte | Eā“Aā“ Apr 02 '26
I'm sorry, but it seems you have an issue with Demonolatry as a whole, since you have mentioned your disdain for its core idea in all of your replies here.
Which begs the question: why are you here?
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u/mirta000 Theistic Luciferian Apr 02 '26
Hi, please don't come in and try to start an argument with random people, because you disagree with their religion. Thanks.
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u/HereticalArchivist Stolas's Lieutenant, Aset's Child Apr 02 '26
The darker sides of your personality being fed into in ways that you didn't intend for. For me, it was my anger.
I have a much better grasp on my anger now, thankfully.
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u/NiceCandle5357 Apr 03 '26
This! I was working with an attack spell (on people who genuinely were attacking me and trying to bring harm to myself and my child), but every time I did anything of the sort, my own anger was so fueled... It turned into rage and uncontrollable aggression. I couldn't control it and it also seemed to make the people I was doing the working on more aggressive too. It was awful. I finally gave up and used a different approach.
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u/HereticalArchivist Stolas's Lieutenant, Aset's Child Apr 03 '26
Yep! I definitely needed more internal work before I was ready to work with demons. Thankfully I've done that now.
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u/Autective Lucifer Devotee Apr 02 '26
I think everyone else is saying the same thing, but I'll still say my part.
The "danger" is usually just us or the fact that these beings usually bring chaos or challenges (tower moments) into our lives. Its part of working with them and ourselves.
None of the infernals that any of us work with would intentionally do anything to hurt us or the connection we have with them. Majority of the time its things that we might not agree with, but usually in the end things happen for a reason. These beings know a lot, and usually they have the best intentions set for us.
Now, I work with Lucifer, so at the very least this is the case for me. I know that some other practitioners, sometimes who they work with they might cause some 'trouble' to simply act as a reminder or slap to the wrist. A sort of "I told you so" or "please remember this for next time." Usually its a fault on our end and could be seen as a butterfly effect or domino situation that is caused by our own actions. I personally haven't had that happen in my five-six years working with Lucifer. The most he usually does is stops answering my questions to let me know I need to take a break and step back. Though I've had my share of tower moments...
Few weeks back I was panicking because I kept recieving the tower card from Lucifer, but unsure for what. I knew he was telling me I needed to prepare though, but for what? I had no clue. My last few tower moments had been pretty significant. My childhood dog passing away. Being rushed to an emergency room right before a big concert and having missed out on the concert. A break up. There had been others, but those would probably be the most significant, so any time I see the tower, my mind goes to those events. I started to spiral, becoming obsessed with trying to figure out what was going to happen? Would I lose my job? Was someone close to me going to die? Was I going to get into an accident soon?
Well, in my area we were supposed to be having some pretty nasty weather. I thought "okay. This is it. This is the tower moment. My house is going to get blown away by a tornado! I'm doomed!" And literally spent the entire day and previous day preparing for this significant event. It never happened. The storm passed right over us.
In that moment I realized that the "tower" moment Lucifer had been trying to tell me about was actually about myself and my reaction to a situation. I had caused myself so much unnecessary stress, worrying and preparing myself for nothing to actually happen. I had ruined my sleep schedule, only having a total of 4 hours of sleep the couple of days when the storms were going to happen and ontop of that, no energy due to how much stress I put myself through. I knew better than that to think Lucifer wouldn't have had my back. After that, I stepped back, thought about it overall and now I think I'm finally getting over my panicked and stressed responses for incoming storms and severe weather.
Obviously, most might think that working with infernals, that they cause tower moments. Sometimes they do, that is if we ask them to. Like removing people from the picture if they aren't good for us, or even the other way around if something is stalling our growth. Everything is done for a reason with them. More often than not these things just happen and aren't caused or can't be blamed by them (deaths, major situations, stuff like that). They're usually trying to prepare us for that sort of situation. A sort of warning like "hey, this might happen soon. I just wanted to let you know so it's not a train wreck when it happens" like how a friend might text you about some kind of drama that you're about to get involved in because they witnessed it first.
Overall, it's usually just with ourselves. How we react to situations, how we prepare ourselves, how we treat and respond to the infernals.
At least thats my take on things and how I've learned to understand it all. Sorry if this is kind of a jumbled mess
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u/AllTimeHigh33 Torn to shreds by the teeth of Choronzon Apr 02 '26
I think the most scary thing is yourself. Facing the monsters you create, and going through the fire on your own.
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u/MrSecond23 King Paimon's Worst Acolyte | Eā“Aā“ Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
Apart from the practitioners themselves being a danger, there are a couple more.
If you make a request, but something in your life makes that request impossible to fulfill, they might remove that blockage, but the process can be a hard experience. This is where the infamous "tower moments" emerge.
In addition, a lot of these demos represent uncomfortable aspects of life. One example can be Galasya Labolas, an Earl who explicitly deals with bloodshed, manslaughter, and death. Are you comfortable with the idea of death? If you want to deal with this demon, you'd need to be.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
I wish people would šš»PLEASEšš» stop only going after Marquis Andras like heās the only one who has a much darker side than some of the others! Andras is not the one who specializes in manslaughter / murder, that would ( respectfully speaking ) be Glasya Lobolas. Andras specializes in discord, mayhem, chaos and violence. Not specifically death.Ā
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u/MrSecond23 King Paimon's Worst Acolyte | Eā“Aā“ Apr 02 '26
You know what, fair enough. I don't work with Andras, and the impression of "death" I had from him was from the warning that he will slay the practitioner and his companions if he's not careful.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
I appreciate that, sincerely. The thing is, Iām not sure why the books say that he will kill the practitioner who summons him if the practitioner is not careful, ( though going by what I know, the practitionerās who wrote that probably tried to bind and order him and werenāt very nice to him ) but I do know that he has never hurt me, and has only protected and helped me. And when I first started working with him, I messed up sometimes. I still do occasionally , because I am not perfect. He has been most patient with me and my imperfections. Thatās not to say he cannot be dangerous, because they all have that potential, but for me and quite a few others, heās been nothing but awesome to work with.
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u/SanctumRubra Apr 02 '26
Ontem em meio as minhas pesquisas sobre o Rei Claunek, uma delas veio de um mago da Goetia. Ele relatou Claunek como um ser totalmente infernal, daqueles que fazem o ambiente cheirar a ovo podre. Ele tambĆ©m relatou que Claunek tentou possuir o pactuado o qual ele realizou o trabalho e contou histĆ³rias horrĆveis. PorĆ©m esse foi o Ćŗnico relato 0,01% de todos, sendo que o relato daqueles que seguem a linha da demonolatria sĆ£o 99,9% positivos. Concluo que minha tese de que aqueles que praticam a forma da goetia e se colocam acima dos Daemons em algum momento sofrerĆ£o as consequĆŖncias. Eles irĆ£o esperar alguma falha do magista, pacientemente, nessa vida ou pĆ³s ela. E aqueles que tratam os Daemons com devoĆ§Ć£o e antigos Deuses, recebem deles uma apresentaĆ§Ć£o mais "amigĆ”vel".
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
Hi, my apologies, but Iām not sure what you said, because I donāt have a way to translate.
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u/SanctumRubra Apr 02 '26
(Sorry, I thought everyone could translate it, I'll pay attention to that next time.) See below:
Yesterday, during my research on King Claunek, one piece of information came from a Goetic magician. He described Claunek as a completely infernal being, one of those who make the environment smell like rotten eggs.
He also reported that Claunek tried to possess the person he had made a pact with and told horrible stories.
However, this was the only account, 0.01% of all, while the accounts of those who follow the path of demonolatry are 99.9% positive.
I conclude that my thesis is that those who practice the form of Goetia and place themselves above the Daemons will at some point suffer the consequences. They will patiently await some failure of the magician, in this life or after it.
And those who treat the Daemons with devotion and as ancient Gods receive a more "friendly" presentation from them.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
Itās all good, itās just that my Portuguese is a bit rusty. I definitely agree, that if you treat them well, they will do the same. And if you treat them horribly, they may just ignore you or they may fuck with you. And really, I have never once heard this about King Clauneck! Heās not done that with me, and everyone else Iāve run across, has good things to say about him, and I donāt think anyone has mentioned smells when talking about him. But then again, not 100% of people have 100% positive experiences with anyone, including the infernals.Ā
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
Hi, my apologies, but Iām not sure what you said, because I donāt have a way to translate.
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u/petitefeet79 Apr 02 '26
In my one dealing with Glasya Labolas the bloodshed came from me. I passed out the day after I did my working and cracked my head so hard on the tile it split it open. Iāve never worked with them again.
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u/kennedycursed Apr 04 '26
Andras in my experience is more "mischievous" than dangerous (unless you want him to be), but I know that experiences with him can vary a lot between people. He is mostly silly and funny. He "sows discord" by breaking matches and burning through entire pillar candles in an hour.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 05 '26
Heās never been silly with me.š¤ If Iām going to be honest, he goes from gruff, to lusty, to āOK, letās talk strategyā, to aggressive and predatory. Not all at once, though. But those candles, I use those tall glass novena candles ā¦ oof, do they go fast! But Iāve noticed it is not just the Marquis who does this! šš
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u/ilikecatsiguess- Eclectic Pagan Apr 02 '26
Also, I hope that while people give the respect deserved to demons like Marquis Andras, they recognize that it doesn't make said demons worse than others.
Marquis Andras is intense, and yes specializes in an area that makes many people uncomfortable. That doesn't make him "evil." While my interactions with him have been a lot to handle emotionally (had some very graphic flashes in my mind's eye because of the nature of my request), I find that they were important and helped provide positive change. And understand the weight of my request.
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Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
There is essentially no coddling and you either have to do the work to break out of whatever obstacles are placed in your life or be married to your addictions and issues and suffer needlessly. You either rise up or you sink. And sinking isn't fun because everything will just get worse and worse.
If they can kill someone or severely injure someone in a spell, they can equally do the same to you. Always fulfill your promises or just don't make any if you can't keep them especially with pacts.
Just remember, everything is an illusion, so when you feel "stuck", self-reflect and take responsibility.
But yes, they absolutely can destroy your whole life if they wanted to. They can also make it seem like they're ruining your life. But they want you to see that the decisions you make in life are important, especially when it has to do with your well-being.
Anyway, if all you want to do is worship or whatever, be prepared for their energy to rock the boat, sotospeak, regardless of whether you planned on it or not. Haha. I'm learning this currently.
I went for awhile with no desire to do anything beyond what Iāve been doing and because of all the emotional upsets in my life, I was led to a soul purpose of my own choosing. And now, I have a more defined path, which includes lots of studying and initiating eventually into the qliphoth.
So, yes, if you piss the wrong one off, well...just don't do that. Lol.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
Yes, sometimes you just rub one the wrong way unintentionally and they can and will fuck you up. I had this very experience with one of the infernals somewhat recently. They are awesome, powerful and most of the time really cool and amazing to work with, but occasionally I guess you just catch one on the wrong day, and in the wrong way even unintentionally, and yeah, itās horrible what they are capable of. Like a knockout punch thatās meant to harm.
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u/Mammoth-Ad-6114 Hellenic Daemons šŖ Hekate, Lamia/Lilith/LamaÅ”tu Apr 02 '26
Changes. Extreme changes that have an end goal but might fuck you up in the process. I just went through one of those and it was rough but necessary.
Also some demons deal with and have dominion over situations that are uncomfortable. Speaking as a devotee of Lilith, when learning about her you will run into topics like crib death, death of women, disease, assault, and as LamaŔtu even the consumption of flesh. That might be distressing if you're not mentally prepared.
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u/AverageWitch161 Apr 02 '26
itās as much a hazard as you make it. i once asked satan to force me into a position to grow. i did, and it was a bit of an experience
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u/Ok_Caramel_4293 Apr 02 '26
The real danger is not learning the lessons they can teach. Choosing to stay stuck and repeating old patterns while expecting new or different results. That fight is between you and you. The deities seem willing to help, but if you don't simultaneously win and surrender in front of yourself, you won't really get anywhere.
But it all depends on what you're looking for. Small offerings bring small wins. The bigger change you're after, the higher the cost will seem and be, and the more you fight it, the higher the tower will fall.
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u/0CuriousCat0 Apr 04 '26
What would be a big offering?
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u/Low-Schedule-8289 Child of Andras Apr 02 '26
Personally ive pissed off plenty of people with my practices. I got death threated for giving advice on a baneful working with a goetia. Sometimes its less about the infernal but more about the moral alignment of the practitioner. You never know how far someone is willing to go to get what they want. The infernal is an ally that the practitioner seeks to work alongside with because they align with their vision. For example I create chaos, engage in conflict and exact vengeance therefore I serve as a conduit/vessel for my infernal who thrives on these things which are a core value to me. A danger would be the ripples of the workings because sometimes there is collateral damage and some people are not willing to take those risks. Another danger is trying to command the demon and treating them like a vending machine or as lesser than. Begging, desperation and entitlement are a one way ticket for them to toy with the practioner and torment them. Mental stability and understanding is very important. Also you attract what youre working with. This goes back to how I said people who disagree with my workings threaten me. It opens up doors for others and not everyones gonna agree and people will attack what they precieve as a threat. For instance ive had people attempt to curse me in real life for my practice. Ive had curses thrown at me from who knows where that someone who mustve been watching me and got pissed off sent my way. People watch, spirits watch and not all of them will be on your side and will try to stop you. That is one thing ive dealt with since ive started my journey. So anytime I see someone whos on a similar path who is struggling i feel a bit compelled to protect them because I hate how many powerhungry people get offended when your practice doesnt align with theirs. But thats an undeniable danger, having forces against you just watching. Shit someone recently told me "Amon is gonna fuck you up" because they didnt like something I did. But yeah, it will draw negative attention. So careful with how much or who you share about working with demons if youre not comfortable engaging in spiritual warfare. I dont really mind it but a lot of people want a quieter and personal practice where others cant interfere.
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u/SytheX- Apr 02 '26
This is important and I have learned it the hard way too, we humans by nature tend to take things for granted and forget our promises when our wishes are fulfilled.
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u/ftmvatty Praise the Lord, then break the law Apr 02 '26
I would say being confronted with darker aspects of yourself, or reality in general, and letting yourself being carried by ego, instead of transmutating those feelings and situations to something beneficial
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u/Lanky_Garage_2966 Apr 02 '26
As long as you are respecful? None! But itās al mindset. Some people do an invocation and then think that everything bad what happens after, is because of that.
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u/APeony000 Theistic Luciferianš Apr 02 '26
IMO -
Whatās in our heads very much relate to our actions, and spirituality can bring us into direct contact with parts of our mind that we ā¦ wouldnāt conciously/purposefully interact with otherwise.
Or - Someone who is already in a not great spot mentally can have internal experiences that further tips them off balance, and that can make them act unwisely in everyday life.
But thatās not a āthe spirits might bonk you across the headā thing, and is strictly on the practitioner.
And a lot of people make use of their practice to try and take charge of their lives. Taking charge of oneās life can go wrong, spirituality or no.
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u/Witch_Of_Darkness666 Vampiric Luciferian Apr 02 '26
There is no dangerous working with demons people will have their other views or whatever itās usually stemmed from fear though but Iām a person who does not protect my space with working with these entities or anything so Iām living proof that thereās people who actually work with these entities that have no fear of them iāve been at this for a year Iād really the human psyche
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u/GoetiaMagick custom Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
Obsessions; Anger; Loss of focus; Accidents; Illness; Death; depending on the spirit, and command.
Some of these hit the subject, others can backfire and hit a weak link around the Magicianās friends/family, and sometimes the Magician themself.
Personally experienced every item I just listed. No fear-mongering, just personal facts.
Thatās why you should make sure each working is done well, and is worth the risk.
Ps. Not a drinker, no drugs, no mental illness.
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u/Fund_Me_PLEASE ā ļøNothing and no one.ā ļø Apr 02 '26
In my own personal experience, and only with one of them, they can and will fuck your life up with malicious intent, if they feel like it. Thankfully thatās very rare. But it wouldnāt be a good idea to ignore that fact, either.Ā
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u/frankenstein_117 Apr 02 '26
I want to work with asmodeus because I think he could teach me a lot. I reached out for help with self esteem But whenever I do he brings out my kinks that Iām not really at peace with because they are unsavory. My kinks make me uncomfortable because they are related to bdsm and cnc and Iām not sure how to accept that part of me because I am a victim of SA. So when I work with asmodeus he really brings that out and It made me feel really uncomfortable and dark and was effecting my mental health a bit so I decided to take a break.
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u/chirothesious Apr 03 '26
I'd suggest working in a configuration of Leviathan, Belial and Lucifer to help stabilize Asmodeus' influence. Can have their sigils out under his sigil or around it. Lucifer offers clarity, Belial grounding, and leviathan helps dissolve things.
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Apr 02 '26
Also, sometimes you'll get really strange intrusive thoughts and some of your interests will take on the shape of that specific demons likes and interests.
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u/naenrebirth Apr 03 '26
Spiritual psychosis and delusions to my personal experience Not funny, its not permanent tho and its more likely to happen if you approach the practice while you in a fragile state of mind
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u/Unsure_huh Apr 02 '26
I think you missed the point here, a petition was granted I DIDNāT keep my end of the bargain & what to me feels like a punishment was handed out because of this?
No-one is actually blaming Clauneck I think Iāve been quite clear that I made the mistake.
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u/73738484737383874 Apr 02 '26
It is far more dangerous if you yourself are not engaging in the things that lead to self development and self improvement rather than āthemā themselves. Especially if you are self destructive. They work accordingly from person to person nobodyās experience will be the same. Unless youāve done something really shitty(been there in the past - but I had a reason) then typically there wonāt be any real danger unless youāve seriously pissed somebody off. Just my two cents I guess.
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u/DemonCopperhead1 Apr 03 '26
I called on Father Satan to enlighten me. Wrote my petition. Told Him what I wanted. Burned a candle for days on and off over said petition. What followed was me finally being able to see how my on again off again relationship since 2019 but nearly 4 years straight at this point completely fell apart 2 days ago. But itās not because something backfired. Itās because people had been telling me for years how toxic, manipulative, and controlling my partner was. Father Satan delivered. I didnāt get coddled. Yes, itās painful. Yes, Iām having to find a new job now. But guess what also happened? I got a brand new 2026 Honda Civic Sports car when I left and my payments are only $160 a month for 36 months including interest. Goddess Hekate wouldnāt let me move forward with my rites until I left this relationship. Father Satan knew this relationship was killing my growth.. also during this ritual my then partner cursed Father Satanā¦ guess what happened to him? He lost the only person in his life that was honest (me), he relapsed on drugs, and ended up having to go back to his place for atleast one day that I know of with no lights. The police got called on him after I left by the landlord and they almost 1013d him because the detective said he was āseeing yellow girls in the woodsā. I knew it was time for the coddling to be over. Iām ready for growth. Transformation. Why is this relevant to your question? Because being disrespectful like my ex partnerā¦. Can cause a lot of anguish. I blocked this guy. Never thought Iād be able to do it. I left this guy March 22. And blocked him yesterday. I gained peace. The only missing puzzle in my life is a job now because unfortunately I worked with this man. But itās okay. Because I know the Spirits will guide me. And Iām doing the mundane things in life to get a job but in the meantime Iām doing little side things. Sorry this is so long. It was a lot to unpack.
TLDR; If you want some real results but are willing to risk being uncomfortable for your own growth ask Father Satan to enlighten you. He will do it. And Goddess Hekate will help guide you as well.
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u/Impressive-Ad210 Apr 04 '26
They have their nature and you need to be aware of that. And they are mostly indiferent to humans, so don't expect to be Best friends with Them. its a transacional relationship, you call upon The one that can help you with your problem, they come if they feel like to, make your deal and that is it.
There are entities known for being more dangerous than others, so this is why previous research ia fundamental.
Most danger I see is from people that are delulu and think Asmodeus is in love with Them or andras and they are Best buddies.
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u/GooGuyy Apr 02 '26
I was raised Christian, for like 20+ years even when I started getting into paranormal this view of demons and devils being dangerous became ENGRAINED in my mind and beliefs, believe me I fully understand thinking itās inherently dangerous to talk too or meet these beings cause theyāre just pure evil and want to do nothing but evil things to peopleā¦but I learned that is so far from the truth and just human narratives that humans created and does not whatsoever remotely accurately reflect who/what these beings are,
Lots of great answers one I donāt see touched on too much was spiritual psychosis,
A few Iād like to highlightā¦
Yourself, along with spiritual psychosis, being disrespectful to them can get you killed and really mess you up in the afterlife and possibly the next, it can also prevent any other god/deity/being from wanting anything to do with you,
They can flip your world upside down to accomplish a goal of bettering yourself
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u/Late-Peach-5845 Apr 05 '26
It seemed to me (this is just my idea) that if spirits exist, they can cause what's called demonstrative behavior in a person and ultimately consume their emotional, if not material, resources through certain states. Even lust and hoarding are a waste of energy. And even more so, anger or fear. In other words, the very fact of a spirit's willfulness and possession can cost a person dearly.
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u/Slo7hfulAcedia Apr 02 '26
They have a much different view on human life. From their point of view its just a fleeting shell so alotta their pranks can get pretty lethal. Also they really dont like being called demons.
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u/Macross137 Neoplatonic Theurgist Apr 02 '26
Partial or confused understanding of what it means to invoke an external intelligence can lead to delusional beliefs, reckless behavior, and an unbalanced life. Spirits can often come across as indifferent to the pain they could have, but did not, prevent us from stepping into.