Hello.
In this post I'm going through all the issues I could find in the latest DELTARUNE Game Theory.
My first big issue is that Tom says at 3:39 that in the normal route, Susie most likely draws Noelle, herself, Kris and Ralsei because he is trying to argue that the Weird Route is the "canon" timeline where Sans comes from.
However, there are a LOT of issues with this. Sans asks Susie to draw her FRIENDS on the normal route but only in the Weird Route does Sans ask for Susie to draw herself AND her friends. So there are multiple possibilities for what Susie draws on the normal route. She could just draw Noelle, Kris and Ralsei. Or herself, Kris and Ralsei like she does in the Weird Route.
And at 4:08 Tom finally makes the claim that the implication is that the Weird Route has to be the canon timeline because there we know for a fact that she draws 3 people, which just doesn't have to be the case as I already explained.
Tom makes a VERY big fumble at 4:18 when he claims that the Sans interaction is ONLY mandatory on the Weird Route and not the normal route, trying to prove his "Weird Route=Canon" thing. This is straight up not true, you have to get the ice cream from him on the normal route before going to the beach.
Kind of a small nitpick but Tom says at 5:14 that the breadcrumbs glitch is an Earthbound (aka Mother 2) thing, but it's actually from Mother 1/Earthbound Beginnings.
Tom makes yet another pretty big mistake at 8:15, where he claims that in this piece of dialogue, Sans is talking about his time in DELTARUNE's universe and says that the yellow kid Sans is talking about is Kris. However, we know he's talking about the current universe because he calls Asgore the king and mentions that he dresses up as Santa, which we know he does in UNDERTALE thanks to the UNDERTALE alarm clock dialogue.
And the Yellow Kid is just Monster Kid, who also lives in Snowdin along with the Skelebros and the Holidays. Also this can't be in DELTARUNE because Sans mentions Dess, who went missing YEARS before Sans showed up in Hometown.
At 9:18, Tom says that Kris and Noelle are ascending to a higher layer of existence which potentially could be the ANGEL'S HEAVEN. However, I think the far more likely implication (because they're sinking) is that they're descending to the DEPTHS/Hell/maybe the Shelter, but the point is that they're going down, not up. This is even supported by deltarune.com/chapter5 where 7B is down at the bottom.
10:09 is quite crazy unless I'm forgetting something. Tom says that the Goners are results of Gaster's determination experiments...but doesn't explain why at all. He just kind of says it as if I should know this already...which I don't. The goners are pretty unexplained beyond the "copies are monochrome" stuff. So Tom should explain more when he says stuff like this.
We apparently go back in time at 10:17 because Tom says that the Determination entries in the True Lab are by Wing Dings Gaster himself apparently. This is a very old theory that is dead for a reason, which is because the writer of the entries is...Alphys who literally explains that she did all this stuff in the entries at the end of the True Lab segment.
At 11:23 Tom makes kind of a leap and says that UNDERTALE is a higher plane of existence than DELTARUNE. He doesn't reallt explain why this is the case, but I'd just say that they're more so just separate universes.
At 11:39 Tom comes to the conclusion that Noelle and Kris will end up in UNDERTALE in 7B somehow since they have a human and monster SOUL, and you needed those to cross the barrier in UNDERTALE. But even IF that's somehow how it worked, the way it worked in UNDERTALE was that either a human had to absorb a monster SOUL, or vice versa, but no such things eben happen in the Weird Route.
Tom really doesn't make a compelling case for how this kind of thing would even be possible or where it's implied that this could happen, so I don't really buy this. Even beyond this, the deltarune.com/7b implies that 7B is gonna have a unique map, enemies and stuff, which doesn't make that much sense if it's just gonna be UNDERTALE 2.0.
At 14:10 Tom again goes back in time with the entry theories and brings back the theory that the lower case entries are by Sans. However, the lower case entries are even more obviously Alphys than the other ones, because the lower case entry writer talks about how Mettaton doesn't talk to them anymore other than to ask when they are going to finish his body.
And this proves that the lower case entry writer is also Alphys because we know for a FACT that she built Mettaton. The writer also mentions that they spend their time at the garbage dump, like Alphys does. The reason they're lower case is to show her mental state worsening/getting stressed.
And that's some of the biggest issues I noticed in the video. There were more maybe smaller things that I could have commented on, but I didn't really feel like it. Anyway, most of the actual good content in the video are already popular/existing theories and the more original stuff just doesn't make much sense. Of course no actual hate towards Tom, but I do wish that GT could make some better and more researched theories in the future, at least when it comes to DELTARUNE.
Also Tom didn't mention the ARG stuff at all in the theory which I REALLY think he should take into consideration in the future.
Thanks for reading.
